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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
Like the SU-76M that the SU-85A was developed from, the SU-85A's armor leaves a lot to be desired. The chassis itself is loosely based off of the light tanks T-70 and T-80- As a result, the lower frontal plate is 30mm RHA, the upper plate and front of the crew compartment is 25mm RHA, and the gun mantlet is 35mm. There is a relatively small additional armor plate (25mm) that is welded onto the upper frontal plate in front of the engines to give them slightly better protection. The sides and rear are 15mm(hull) and 10mm(crew compartment), making this vehicle vulnerable to heavy machine gun fire. This vehicle is also open-topped, making it a prime target for fighters looking to strafe an easy kill. All in all, this vehicle is the embodiment of a "glass cannon", unable to defend itself from anything but perhaps a glancing blow.  
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Like the SU-76M that the SU-85A was developed from, the SU-85A's armour leaves a lot to be desired. The chassis itself is loosely based off of the light tanks T-70 and T-80- As a result, the lower frontal plate is 30 mm RHA, the upper plate and front of the crew compartment is 25 mm RHA, and the gun mantlet is 35 mm. There is a relatively small additional armour plate (25 mm) that is welded onto the upper frontal plate in front of the engines to give them slightly better protection. The sides and rear are 15 mm (hull) and 10 mm (crew compartment), making this vehicle vulnerable to heavy machine gunfire. This vehicle is also open-topped, making it a prime target for fighters looking to strafe an easy kill. All in all, this vehicle is the embodiment of a "glass cannon", unable to defend itself from anything but perhaps a glancing blow.  
  
At Battle Rating 4.0, where one of the most common ammunition types used is APHE/APCBC, this vehicle has abysmal survivability. In most cases, the armor is just thick enough to arm the fuse in these shells- With a large fuel tank, lots of ammunition, and a crew packed into such a tight space, it is likely the shell will do crippling damage or knock the tank out with a single hit.  
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At Battle Rating 4.0, where one of the most common ammunition types used is APHE/APCBC, this vehicle has abysmal survivability. In most cases, the armour is just thick enough to arm the fuse in these shells- With a large fuel tank, lots of ammunition, and a crew packed into such a tight space, it is likely the shell will do crippling damage or knock the tank out with a single hit.  
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
The SU-85A's maneuverability is exactly what one might expect when the tank designers start with a light tank and add a lot of weight without increasing engine power- not great. It has two coupled 70 horsepower motors, giving it a combined output of 140 HP. Weighing in at 12.2 tons, it has a power to weight of almost 11.5 horsepower per ton. As it utilizes high-revving gasoline motors, the SU-85A doesn't have nearly as much torque to help it move around had it been powered by a diesel.  
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The SU-85A's manoeuvrability is exactly what one might expect when the tank designers start with a light tank and add a lot of weight without increasing engine power- not great. It has two coupled 70 horsepower motors, giving it a combined output of 140 HP. Weighing in at 12.2 tons, it has a power to weight of almost 11.5 horsepower per ton. As it utilizes high-revving gasoline motors, the SU-85A doesn't have nearly as much torque to help it move around had it been powered by diesel.  
  
 
Maximum speed forwards is an acceptable 40 kph with four forward gears, and maximum speed in reverse is 5 kph with a single reverse gear.
 
Maximum speed forwards is an acceptable 40 kph with four forward gears, and maximum speed in reverse is 5 kph with a single reverse gear.

Revision as of 18:39, 6 August 2019

SU-85A
ussr_su_85a.png
FIND ON MARKETPLACE
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
4.0/4.0/4.0BR
4 peopleCrew
Mobility
12.3 tWeight
4 forward
1 back
Gear box
Armament
85 mm D-5S cannonWeapon 1
42 roundsAmmunition
-4° / 18°Vertical guidance
-8.5° / 8.5°Horizontal guidance
Economy
Sl icon.png2 540/1 800/2 000Repair
10 000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
160 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
400 Ge icon.pngAces
x 2.42 Rp icon.pngReward for battle

Description

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General info

Survivability and armour

Like the SU-76M that the SU-85A was developed from, the SU-85A's armour leaves a lot to be desired. The chassis itself is loosely based off of the light tanks T-70 and T-80- As a result, the lower frontal plate is 30 mm RHA, the upper plate and front of the crew compartment is 25 mm RHA, and the gun mantlet is 35 mm. There is a relatively small additional armour plate (25 mm) that is welded onto the upper frontal plate in front of the engines to give them slightly better protection. The sides and rear are 15 mm (hull) and 10 mm (crew compartment), making this vehicle vulnerable to heavy machine gunfire. This vehicle is also open-topped, making it a prime target for fighters looking to strafe an easy kill. All in all, this vehicle is the embodiment of a "glass cannon", unable to defend itself from anything but perhaps a glancing blow.

At Battle Rating 4.0, where one of the most common ammunition types used is APHE/APCBC, this vehicle has abysmal survivability. In most cases, the armour is just thick enough to arm the fuse in these shells- With a large fuel tank, lots of ammunition, and a crew packed into such a tight space, it is likely the shell will do crippling damage or knock the tank out with a single hit.

Mobility

The SU-85A's manoeuvrability is exactly what one might expect when the tank designers start with a light tank and add a lot of weight without increasing engine power- not great. It has two coupled 70 horsepower motors, giving it a combined output of 140 HP. Weighing in at 12.2 tons, it has a power to weight of almost 11.5 horsepower per ton. As it utilizes high-revving gasoline motors, the SU-85A doesn't have nearly as much torque to help it move around had it been powered by diesel.

Maximum speed forwards is an acceptable 40 kph with four forward gears, and maximum speed in reverse is 5 kph with a single reverse gear.

Armaments

Main armament

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Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

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History

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Media

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See also

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External links

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USSR tank destroyers
Light  SU-5-1 · ZiS-30 · SU-57 · SU-57B · SU-76M · SU-76M (5th Guards Cavalry Corps) · YaG-10 (29-K) · SU-85A
Medium  SU-122 · SU-85 · SU-85M · SU-100 · SU-100P · SU-122P · SU-122-54
Heavy  SU-100Y · ISU-122 · ISU-122S · SU-152 · ISU-152 · Object 268 · Object 120 "Taran"
Rocket  BM-8-24 · BM-13N
Airborne  ASU-57 · ASU-85

USSR premium ground vehicles
Light tanks  T-26 (1st Gv.T.Br.) · T-26E · T-126(SP) · RBT-5 · BT-7 (F-32)
Medium tanks  ▂T-III · ▂M3 Medium · "Panther" · ▂M4A2 (76) W · T-34 (Prototype) · T-34 1941 (1st Gv.T.Br.)
  T-34E · T-34-57 (1943) · T-34-85E · T-34-100 · T-44-122 · T-55AM-1
Heavy tanks  ▂MK-II "Matilda" · T-35 · SMK · KV-1E · KV-122 · KV-220 · KV-2 (1940) · KV-2 (ZiS-6) · IS-2 "Revenge for the Hero brother" · IS-6
Tank destroyers  SU-57 · SU-85A · BM-8-24 · BM-13N · SU-76M (5th Guards Cavalry Corps) · SU-100Y · SU-122P · Object 120 "Taran"
Anti-aircraft  ZUT-37 · ▂Type 65