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== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea"]].
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[[File:SU-57B Intro.jpg|alt=SU-57B|left|thumb|SU-57B]]
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The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}.  
  
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This tank destroyer uses a 57 mm ZIS-4 for its main gun. It features a low profile, good top speed (40 km/h in RB) and great penetration for its rank, but weak armour at all angles.
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This tank destroyer uses a 57 mm ZIS-4 for its main gun. It features a low profile, good top speed (40 km/h in RB) and great penetration for its tier, but a weak to very weak armour on all angles. It is the first Tank destroyer (TD) available at Tier 3.
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The overall design of the SU-57B allows for sneaky attacks, revolving around the 57 mm ZiS-4 gun that allows for engagement from medium range on unsuspecting enemies. Because of its low profile, this TD can use bushes and terrain to hide its approach. However, the trade-off is lacklustre mobility, so it compares with the ZiS-30 that provides better mobility and speed and can reposition much faster. Despite all these limitations, when played right the SU-57B can score good scores, but only when properly positioned and not detected.
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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The SU-57B has the best armour on the front, weaker armour on the sides and on the rear. Regarding the crew protection, because of the number of crew members (4), the loss of 1 or 2 crew members is acceptable. But due to the thin armour, the SU-57B can take one or two shots maximum before being put out of order. It is much better protected than the ZiS-30 and can sustain MG fire.
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'''Armour type:'''
 
'''Armour type:'''
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
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!Front
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!Roof
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!Tracks
 
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| Hull || 25 mm (38°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 25 mm (24°) ''Lower glacis'' <br> 25 mm (0-90°) ''Gun mantlet'' <br> 25 mm (37°) ''Cheeks'' || 16 mm (0-32°) || 16 mm (40°) ''Top'' <br> 10 mm (45°) ''Bottom'' || 10 mm (72-85°) <br> 5 mm (72°) ''Grille''
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''Front glacis''  
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''Lower glacis''
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|16mm for
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''Top'' and ''Bottom''
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|16mm(72°)
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|10mm (85°)
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|15mm(11°)
 
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|Gun shield
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|15mm (15°)
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|N/A
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|N/A
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|N/A
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|N/A
 
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* Belly armour is 6 mm thick.
 
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* Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick while tracks are 15 mm thick.
 
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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The SU-57B is sluggish at backwards speed and you will have a hard time countering an opponent behind you. Your best bet is to flee when spotted. Fortunately thanks to its great speed (43 km/h maximum) it can flee quite easily.
  
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The {{PAGENAME}} is sluggish at backwards speed and will have a hard time countering an opponent attempting a flanking manoeuvre. The best bet is to retreat and relocate when spotted. Fortunately, thanks to its great forward speed (43 km/h maximum), the {{PAGENAME}} can still move quite easily.
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
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|-
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! Weight (tons)
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! colspan="1" | Add-on Armour<br>weight (tons)
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! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
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| rowspan="2" | 9.5 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 43 (AB)
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|40 (RB/SB)
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! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
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! colspan="1" | Mode
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!Stock
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|''Arcade''
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|148
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! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
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! colspan="1" | Mode
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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{{main|ZIS-4 (57 mm)}}
 
  
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The main gun is ridiculously powerful for its hull. It features a ZIS-4 57 mm that has a penetration rate similar to the ZiS-30 main gun. The position of the main gun is quite low and enemies will have a hard time detecting the silhouette of the tank. However, because of its long barrel, one must be careful not to stand out from cover or from the sides.
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It's pretty good reload speed (6.5 seconds) allows this tank to shoot with efficiency, however, with 72 rounds of ammunition, the SU-57B has much more ammo than the ZIS-30, allowing it to shoot freely without restriction. However, keep in mind the 6.5 seconds initial reload time can be quite long when facing an opponent at close range.
  
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The recoil of the gun can be important and must be taken care of, as well as the dispersion effect. The relatively fast reloading rate of 6.5 seconds allows for a comfortable targeting and efficiency. Though, with the SU-57B able to hold a total of 72 rounds of ammunition, the SU-57B can shoot more freely without worry. However, keep in mind the 6.5 seconds initial reload time can be quite long when facing an opponent at close range.
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! colspan="6" | [https://wiki.warthunder.com/ZiS-4_(57_mm) 57 mm ZiS-4]
 
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| colspan="3" | 72 || -5°/+14° || ±30° || N/A
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| rowspan="2" | 72 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+14° || rowspan="2" | ±18° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 6.2 || 8.5 || 10.4 || 11.5 || 12.2 || rowspan="2" | 5.59 || rowspan="2" | 4.95 || rowspan="2" | 4.56 || rowspan="2" | 4.30
 
 
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==== Ammunition ====
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{{:ZIS-4 (57 mm)/Ammunition|BR-271, BR-271K, O-271}}
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! 1st<br>rack empty
 
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! 3rd<br>rack empty
 
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| ''Realistic'' || 4.2 || 4.95 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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The SU-57B is a light armoured tank destroyer, armed with a deadly 57 mm ZiS-4  anti-tank gun that is not a threat to take lightly for most enemy vehicles at its BR, though being a lightly armoured vehicle it can prove to be a very difficult vehicle to master at first. But even with its light armour it got a useful acceleration and top speed makes it a opponent to be wary against. A well placed or hidden Su-57B can with ease prove to be a great obstacle for the enemy armoured units.
 
  
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A key element to the Su-57B being used successfully is distance to enemy targets and element of surprise, the ZiS-4 is a gun that can attack most vehicles at any distance on the field, with a powerful and fast firing 57 mm long barrel it can ambush from distance as from close range. Why distance is a key for the Su-57B is its lack of armour, being 25 mm frontally thick but at an angle that gives it an effective armour of 32 mm makes it an easy target for most vehicles it will face. At a distance it has a higher possibility to survive a hit and maintain a distance to enemy 12.7 mm machine guns.
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=== Additional armament ===
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=== Machine guns ===
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== Usage in the battles ==
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The SU-57B is purely a tank hunter. With its 57mm ZIS-4 gun, and at a BR of 3,3 it can easily pierce almost any opponent in the game. Because of its weak armour, it was not capable of engaging too close and had to stay at a medium to long range.
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Its APHEBC initial ammunition is effective at piercing enemy armour, but the nest ammo modification is even better with the APHE round (BR-271K).
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It also features a HE round that can be unlocked later, but it is preferable to stick with BR-271 or BR-217K rounds as they offer up to 142 mm of penetration which is excellent for its use and BR.
  
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Ground units are one of the Su-57B's least worries, enemy air units can easily target the Su-57B from above, having a light top armour makes most machine gun fire and cannon fire from planes a lethal threat. Lacking a anti-air machine gun on it, makes it hard for it to defend itself against air units. Hiding in forests or bushes are a way for it to defend itself form aircrafts.  Protection against air can also be near allied SPAA vehicles.
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The SU-57B is best played as a sniper, preferably taking advantage of its very low profile (still not as good as the ASU-57 but almost). It excels at shooting from high vantage points or from the sides but must be repositioned after each shot to avoid retaliation fire.
  
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Enemies to be aware of is mostly heavy tanks like [[Churchill III]] and light tanks that can easily flank it like [[Sd.Kfz.234/2]] and [[M5A1]], SPAA like [[M15A1 CGMC]], [[Wirbelwind]], [[R3 T20 FA-HS]] and [[ZSD63]] will have a easy time destroying the light armour. But most important of all is that it's extremely vulnerable to any air attack against it, you can with ease prevent ground units to get into a effective range, Air units can attack from anywhere and easily make scrap metal out of the Su-57B
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With only 25 mm frontal armour at best and 16mm on the side and virtually none on the rear, a single shot would be fatal and leave the crew disabled at best. It is even susceptible to Heavy MG fire from the sides and rear
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* Decent top forward speed
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* Excellent 57 mm ZIS-4 gun which provides the necessary firepower to deal with anything
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* Great 57mm ZIS-4 main gun
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* Very low profile ideal for sneak attacks and sniper     attacks, similar to ASU-57
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* Sluggish acceleration
 
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* Weak armour susceptible to any type of damage, even heavy MGs can take it out with ease
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== History ==
 
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In 1943 the MVTU USSR design bureau proposed an 11 ton tank hunter prototype with two main gun variants:
 
  
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# The 75 mm S-1 main gun
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In 1943 the MVTU USSR design bureau proposed an 11 ton tank hunter prototype with two main gun variants:
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Both would be propelled with a diesel GMC-71 engine.
 
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At the same moment, the GAZ design bureau was working on 2 designs. One named "GAZ-74b" which is the SU-57B with a long barrel, and an improved version with a 76 mm gun.The Su-57a was to be the tank hunter with the 76mm main gun. The Su-57B was not accepted for service because it was too costly pro produce and because of its newer diesel engine.
 
At the same moment, the GAZ design bureau was working on 2 designs. One named "GAZ-74b" which is the SU-57B with a long barrel, and an improved version with a 76 mm gun.The Su-57a was to be the tank hunter with the 76mm main gun. The Su-57B was not accepted for service because it was too costly pro produce and because of its newer diesel engine.
  
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Later the GAZ-74d (SU-76d) would come out with a 76 mm S-1 main gun and a frontal armour of 60 mm. It will also be known later as "SU-80".
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Later the GAZ-74d (SU-76d) would come out with a 76mm S-1 main gun and a frontal armor of 60mm. It will also be known later as "SU-80".
  
 
== Media ==
 
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A Youtube review on how to play the Su-57B: ''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMYBfO-32LM]''
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{{Youtube-gallery|BzpVk-wmM0w|'''SU-57B, Soviet, Tier-3, Tank Destroyer''' - ''Angry Nerd Gaming''}}
 
  
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== See also ==
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''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
  
 
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 
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* [http://www.wardrawings.be/WW2/Files/1-Vehicles/Allies/2-USSR/05-TankDestroyers/RussianHetzer/File/Russian-Hetzer.htm [War Drawings<nowiki>]</nowiki> Russian Hetzer Tank Destroyer]
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{{USSR tank destroyers}}Great article about Russian Hetzers.: [http://www.wardrawings.be/WW2/Files/1-Vehicles/Allies/2-USSR/05-TankDestroyers/RussianHetzer/File/Russian-Hetzer.htm]
  
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A great Russian webpage (also in English) avout WWII Russian tanks and their history: [http://english.battlefield.ru/tanks/14-experimental/63-russian-hetzer.html]

Revision as of 14:36, 27 April 2019

Rank VI Israel | Premium | Golden Eagles
Merkava Mk.2D Pack
SU-57B
ussr_su_57b.png
SU-57B
USSR flag.png USSR
II Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
2.7 2.7 2.7
Class:
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Description

SU-57B
SU-57B


The SU-57B is a rank II Russian tank destroyer with a battle rating of 2.7 (AB/RB/SB).

This tank destroyer uses a 57 mm ZIS-4 for its main gun. It features a low profile, good top speed (40 km/h in RB) and great penetration for its tier, but a weak to very weak armour on all angles. It is the first Tank destroyer (TD) available at Tier 3.

General info

Survivability and armour

Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat?

If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
Armour Front Sides Rear Roof Tracks
Hull 25mm for

Front plate

Front glacis

Lower glacis

16mm for

Top and Bottom

16mm(72°) 10mm (85°) 15mm(11°)
Gun shield 15mm (15°) N/A N/A N/A N/A

Mobility

The SU-57B is sluggish at backwards speed and you will have a hard time countering an opponent behind you. Your best bet is to flee when spotted. Fortunately thanks to its great speed (43 km/h maximum) it can flee quite easily.

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armour
weight (tons) 		Max speed (km/h)
9.5 N/A 43 (AB)
40 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 148 164.4
Realistic/Simulator 92 98
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade
Realistic/Simulator

Armaments

Main armament

It's pretty good reload speed (6.5 seconds) allows this tank to shoot with efficiency, however, with 72 rounds of ammunition, the SU-57B has much more ammo than the ZIS-30, allowing it to shoot freely without restriction. However, keep in mind the 6.5 seconds initial reload time can be quite long when facing an opponent at close range.

57 mm ZiS-4
Capacity Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance 		Stabilizer
72 -5°/+14° ±30° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 4.2 __.__ __.__ __.__
Realistic 4.2 4.95 __.__ __.__ __.__
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
6.50

Additional armament

N/A

Machine guns

N/A

Usage in the battles

The SU-57B is purely a tank hunter. With its 57mm ZIS-4 gun, and at a BR of 3,3 it can easily pierce almost any opponent in the game. Because of its weak armour, it was not capable of engaging too close and had to stay at a medium to long range.

Its APHEBC initial ammunition is effective at piercing enemy armour, but the nest ammo modification is even better with the APHE round (BR-271K).

It also features a HE round that can be unlocked later, but it is preferable to stick with BR-271 or BR-217K rounds as they offer up to 142 mm of penetration which is excellent for its use and BR.

The SU-57B is best played as a sniper, preferably taking advantage of its very low profile (still not as good as the ASU-57 but almost). It excels at shooting from high vantage points or from the sides but must be repositioned after each shot to avoid retaliation fire.

With only 25 mm frontal armour at best and 16mm on the side and virtually none on the rear, a single shot would be fatal and leave the crew disabled at best. It is even susceptible to Heavy MG fire from the sides and rear

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Great forward speed
  • Great 57mm ZIS-4 main gun
  • Very low profile ideal for sneak attacks and sniper attacks, similar to ASU-57
  • Good reload time (6,5 seconds)
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Cons:

  • Sluggish acceleration
  • Very weak rear speed
  • Poor side mobility. Don't expect to be able to turn around quickly
  • Weak armour (25/16/16) and susceptible to rear and side shots or even Heavy MG

History

In 1943 the MVTU USSR design bureau proposed an 11 ton tank hunter prototype with two main gun variants:

1/ The 75mm S-1 main gun

2/ The 57 mm S-1-57 main gun

Both would be propelled with a diesel GMC-71 engine.

At the same moment, the GAZ design bureau was working on 2 designs. One named "GAZ-74b" which is the SU-57B with a long barrel, and an improved version with a 76 mm gun.The Su-57a was to be the tank hunter with the 76mm main gun. The Su-57B was not accepted for service because it was too costly pro produce and because of its newer diesel engine.

Later the GAZ-74d (SU-76d) would come out with a 76mm S-1 main gun and a frontal armor of 60mm. It will also be known later as "SU-80".

Media

A Youtube review on how to play the Su-57B: [1]

Read also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

ETC.

Sources

USSR tank destroyers
SU-76M  SU-76M · SU-76M (5th Gv.Kav.Corps) · SU-85A
SU-57B  SU-57B · SU-76D
T-34 Derivatives  SU-122 · SU-85 · SU-85M · SU-100 · SU-122P
Heavy Tank Derivatives  SU-100Y · ISU-122 · ISU-122S · SU-152 · ISU-152 · Object 268
SU-100P and Derivatives  SU-100P · Object 120
Wheeled  YaG-10 (29-K)
Airborne  ASU-57 · ASU-85
Rocket  BM-8-24 · BM-13N · BM-31-12
ATGM  IT-1 · Shturm-S · Object 775 · Khrizantema-S
Artillery  2S1 · 2S3M
Other  SU-5-1 · ZiS-30 · SU-122-54
USA  SU-57

Great article about Russian Hetzers.: [2]

A great Russian webpage (also in English) avout WWII Russian tanks and their history: [3]

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