SIDAM 25 (Mistral)

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SIDAM 25 (Mistral)
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SIDAM 25 (Mistral)
AB RB SB
10.0 10.0 10.0
Class:
Research:390 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:1 020 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

The Sistema Italiano Difesa Aerea Mobile, 25mm (Mistral) is a rank VII Italian SPAA with a battle rating of 10.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.91 "Night Vision".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull38 / 44 / 38
Turret38 / 25 / 25
Crew3 people
Visibility123 %

Armour type:

  • Aluminium Alloy 7039
  • Structural steel
  • Steel (Cannons and Missile Launchers)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 38 mm (46°), 29 mm (46°) Front glacis

38 mm (25°) Lower glacis

44 mm Top

32 mm Bottom

38 mm (10°) 38 mm (89°) Front

38 mm (89°) Rear

Turret 38 mm (24°) Turret front

25 mm (1°) Gun mantlet

25 mm (0°) 25 mm (1°) 25 mm (89°)

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB70 / 17 km/h
RB and SB65 / 15 km/h
Number of gears3 forward
1 back
Weight14.3 t
Engine power
AB404 hp
RB and SB212 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB28.3 hp/t
RB and SB14.8 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 70 17 14.3 301 404 21.05 28.25
Realistic 65 15 188 212 13.15 14.83

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB18 000 → 23 580 Sl icon.png
RB4 700 → 6 157 Sl icon.png
SB5 300 → 6 943 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications274 100 Rp icon.png
446 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 800 Ge icon.png
Crew training290 000 Sl icon.png
Experts1 020 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 100 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 080 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
150 / 150 / 110 % Sl icon.png
232 / 232 / 232 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Research:
20 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
30 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
17 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
25 000 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
17 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
25 000 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
19 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
24 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
36 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
24 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
36 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Parts
Research:
6 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
30 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
FPE
Research:
5 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
25 000 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement it.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
19 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
20 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
30 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
17 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
25 000 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
19 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
25mm_kba_APDS_ammo_pack
Research:
19 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods art support.png
Artillery Support
Research:
24 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
36 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mods tank laser rangefinder.png
Laser rangefinder
Research:
24 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
36 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Laser rangefinder
Reduces the error and increases the maximum measurable distance of the rangefinder

Main armament

Two-plane stabilizer
Reduces the swing of the gun in two planes while moving
Ammunition660 rounds
Belt capacity150 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
1.3 → 1.0 s
Fire rate550 shots/min
Vertical guidance-5° / 87°
Main article: Oerlikon KBA (25 mm)

The SIDAM 25 (Mistral) is armed with 4 x 25 mm cannons, with the main purpose of destroying aircraft. Like almost all SPAA armaments, these cannons are not designed to disable or destroy tanks. It is capable of destroying other SPAA, and some SPGs, but it is limited in its anti-tank effectiveness. It carries 660 rounds for each cannon, giving a total of 2,640 rounds.

25 mm Oerlikon KBA (x4) Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 660 (150) 550 -5°/+87° ±180° Two-plane 105.7 __._ __._ __._ __._ _.__ _.__ _.__ _.__
Realistic 71.4 __._ __._ __._ __._

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
M792 HEI-T* 3 3 3 3 3 3
M791 APDS 81 80 76 70 66 61
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
M792 HEI-T* 1,100 0.5 0 0.1 54.4 79° 80° 81°
M791 APDS 1,345 0.13 N/A N/A N/A 75° 78° 80°

Ammo racks

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
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Additional armament

Two-plane stabilizer
Reduces the swing of the gun in two planes while moving
Ammunition6 rounds
Belt capacity6 rounds
Fire rate120 shots/min
Vertical guidance-5° / 87°
Fire on the moveup to 1 km/h
Main article: Mistral SATCP

The SIDAM also possesses 6 surface-to-air (SAM) Launchers, for its Mistral missiles. These can be guided by the Optical tracking system onto the target and have an approximate effective range of 4 km. However jets will most likely to evade the missiles if fired from this range, so it is suggested that you wait to fire these at a closer range than 4 km where it will be more difficult for them to react and evade. The history section (at the bottom of this page) suggests that using the cannon at short range, and missiles for longer range targets, is the best tactic.

Mistral SATCP missile
Capacity (Belt) Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer
6 (6) -5°/+87° ±180° Two-plane

Ammunition

Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Range
(m)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Mistral SATCP AAM 1,000 4,000 (all-aspect) 18.7 1 10 1,780 47° 56° 65°

Ammo racks

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
6 __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __

Usage in battles

The SIDAM, with its optronic guidance and a powerful arsenal of weaponry, is more than capable of taking down most aircraft within range. Helicopters, with their flare, present an issue for the missiles, but unlike the Stormer HVM, the SIDAM has guns! This allows you to dispatch a helicopter with ease, although you may choose to fire missiles to take down a particularly experienced player, as this will not only give you an opportunity to kill him, your teammates may be able to take him down. The SIDAM, like most other anti-aircraft vehicles, has virtually no useful armour and is very susceptible to incoming fire including some heavy machine gun rounds. Fortunately, it has a reasonable range, so it should be able to protect its team from a distance. As the history does point out, the crews assigned to this vehicle tended to fire missiles at long-range targets and then utilised the cannons at closer targets. Unfortunately, its missiles launchers, although a great asset, is also on the top of the turret, leaving them very exposed. Much like most anti-aircraft and missile tanks, if these missiles are hit while still in the launchers, they will most likely detonate and cause damage to the vehicle.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Compared to the previous SIDAM 25, the Mistral model has SAMs
  • Has reasonable mobility
  • Cannons have relatively high rate of fire
  • The APDS belt can go through most tanks' side armour

Cons:

  • Armour is extremely inadequate, heavy machine guns even from a far can cut right trough
  • Without the HEI-T ammo belt the main cannons are rather inadequate against most top tier aircraft
  • Missiles can only be utilised for anti-air attacks
  • Missile launchers are highly exposed on the top of the tank
  • Does not have a search radar
  • Missiles have an absolute maximum range of 5.5 km
  • Suffers heavily from hull break

History

Modernization plans for the SIDAM 25 were drawn up in late 1994, when Italian engineers proposed the up-arming of the vehicle with Mistral surface-to-air missiles in order to give it better long-range capabilities and improve its performance as a whole.

The missiles were to be distributed between two launchers, with each launcher containing three missiles. As such, the vehicle could then utilize the missiles against targets at long range, whilst preserving the cannon armament for close-range engagements.

The modernization of the SIDAM 25s with Mistral SAMs was expected to begin in the early 2000s, alongside some other potential upgrades as well.

- From Devblog

Media

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Italy anti-aircraft vehicles
AS 42 · M42 Contraereo · R3 T20 FA-HS · SIDAM 25 · SIDAM 25 (Mistral) · OTOMATIC