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{{About
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|about = American naval bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
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|usage = other uses
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|link = SB2 (Disambiguation)
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American naval dive-bomber {{Battle-rating}}. This aircraft was introduced in [[Update 1.51 "Cold Steel"]].
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight Performance ===
 
=== Flight Performance ===
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, maneuverability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="8" | Characteristics
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|-
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 4,084 m)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
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|-
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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|-
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|430||415|| {{Specs|ceiling}} ||24.6||25.0||2.6||3.9||300
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|-
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 4,084 m)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (meters)
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|-
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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|-
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|450|| ? || {{Specs|ceiling}} ||23.0|| ??.? ||6.1|| ??.? ||300
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|-
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|}
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====Details====
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | Features
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|-
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! Combat flap
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! Take-off flap
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! Landing flap
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! Air brakes
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! Arrestor gear
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|-
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓    <!-- ✓ -->
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | Limits
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|-
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="2" | Max Static G
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|-
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! +
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! -
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|-
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| {{Specs|разрушение|конструкции}} || {{Specs|разрушение|шасси}} || 520 || ~8 || ~4
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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|-
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
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|-
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| < 257 || < 350 || < 380 || > 250
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Setting 1
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| 1,829 m || 1,500 hp || 1,665 hp
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Setting 2
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| 3,962 m || 1,350 hp || 1,499 hp
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|-
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<!--! colspan="3" | Setting 3
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
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|- -->
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|}
  
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* 38 mm Bulletproof glass in front of pilot.
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* 11.11 mm Steel plate behind pilot.
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* 6.35 mm Steel plate on fuselage in front of cockpit.
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* 6.35 mm Steel plates on rear machine gun.
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|AN/M2 (20 mm)}}
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
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* 2 х 20 mm AN/M2 cannons, wing-mounted (200 rpg = 400 total)
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|AN-M57 (250 lb)|Mk.13|Mk.13/44|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)}}
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordinance:
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* 2 х 250 lb AN-M57 bombs
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* 1 х 2216 lb Mk.13 torpedo
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* 1 х 2216 lb Mk.13/44 torpedo
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* 2 х 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs
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* 1 х 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bomb
  
 
=== Defensive armament ===
 
=== Defensive armament ===
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''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available remove this subsection.''
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{{main|Browning (7.62 mm)}}
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:
  
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== Usage in the battles ==
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* 2 х 7.62 mm Browning machine guns, dorsal turret (2,000 rpg = 4,000 total)
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== Usage in battles ==
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''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
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===Manual Engine Control===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="7" | MEC elements
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|-
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! rowspan="2" | Mixer
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! rowspan="2" | Pitch
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! colspan="3" | Radiator
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! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
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! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
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|-
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! Oil
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! Water
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! Type
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|-
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| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable || rowspan="2" |Combined|| rowspan="2" | Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
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|-
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|}
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===Modules===
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{| class="wikitable"
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! colspan="1" | Tier
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! colspan="2" | Flight performance
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! colspan="1" | Survivability
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! colspan="3" | Weaponry
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|-
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| I
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| Fuselage Repair
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| Radiator
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|
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|
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| Turret 7 mm
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| ITC mk.III
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|-
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| II
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|
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| Compressor
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| Airframe
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| Offensive 20 mm
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|
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| Improved torpedo
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|-
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| III
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| Wings Repair
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| Engine
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|
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|
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| New 7 mm MGs (turret)
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| SBC mk.I
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|-
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| IV
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|
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| Engine Injection
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| Cover
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| New 20 mm cannons
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|
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| MBC mk.I
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|-
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|}
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Has the ability to dive bomb and level bomb.
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* Armed with a powerful pair of 20mm AN/M2 cannons.
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* Access to air brakes.
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* Similar play style as the the SBD-3 and the TBF-1c.
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* Decent durability.
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* Next to no performance penalty when carrying bombs.
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* Air frame can withstand high speed.
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* Defensive gunner has a wide coverage.
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* Internal payload.
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* Pinpoint dive bomb accuracy.
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* Can be an effective bomber hunter.
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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== Historical part ==
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* Wing mounted armaments tend to be inaccurate sometimes.
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* Maximum payload is lower than both the SBD-3 and the TBF-1c.
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* Suffers from huge performance penalty when carrying a torpedo.
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* Slow.
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* Elevator tend to wildly sway after a maneuver, a trait shared by the TBF-1c.
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* Defensive armament is ineffective against armored foes.
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* Payload is ineffective against bases.
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== History ==
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The SB2C-1c Helldiver was a carrier-based dive bomber made by the Curtiss company. The aircraft had been produced from 1943-1945. It was meant to replace the Douglas SBD Dauntless as a much faster alternative to the SBD Dauntless though it sacrificed mobility. Many of the crews of the SB2C-1c Helldiver nicked named this aircraft "Big-Tailed Beast", "Two-Cee", and Son of a Bitch Second Class due to the horrible turning capabilities of the aircraft. The aircraft mainly saw service in the United States Navy, United States Army Air Forces, French Air Force, and Royal Thai Air Force. It was a much larger version of the SBD Dauntless but many of the pilots that flew the SB2C-1c were disappointed with the turning capability which led many pilots to go back to the outdated SBD Dauntless as it had better turning but less speed but many pilots preferred it rather than the SB2C-1c. A total of 7,140 aircraft were produced in total from 1943-1945.
  
 
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== See also ==
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* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
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* ''other literature.''
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{{AirManufacturer Curtiss}}
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{{USA bombers}}

Revision as of 19:15, 30 December 2019

Rank IV USSR | Premium | Golden Eagles
Tu-1 Pack
SB2C-1C
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SB2C-1C
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II Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
3.0 3.0 3.0
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This page is about the American naval bomber SB2C-1C. For other uses, see SB2 (Disambiguation).

Description

GarageImage SB2C-1C.jpg


The SB2C-1C Helldiver is a rank II American naval dive-bomber with a battle rating of 3.0 (AB/RB/SB). This aircraft was introduced in Update 1.51 "Cold Steel".

General info

Flight Performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 4,084 m) 		Max altitude
(meters) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
430 415 7700 24.6 25.0 2.6 3.9 300
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 4,084 m) 		Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
450  ? 7700 23.0  ??.? 6.1  ??.? 300

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h) 		Gear limit
(km/h) 		Combat flap
(km/h) 		Max Static G
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656 333 520 ~8 ~4
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h) 		Rudder
(km/h) 		Elevators
(km/h) 		Radiator
(km/h)
< 257 < 350 < 380 > 250
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
1,829 m 1,500 hp 1,665 hp
Setting 2
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
3,962 m 1,350 hp 1,499 hp

Survivability and armour

  • 38 mm Bulletproof glass in front of pilot.
  • 11.11 mm Steel plate behind pilot.
  • 6.35 mm Steel plate on fuselage in front of cockpit.
  • 6.35 mm Steel plates on rear machine gun.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: AN/M2 (20 mm)

The SB2C-1C is armed with:

  • 2 х 20 mm AN/M2 cannons, wing-mounted (200 rpg = 400 total)

Suspended armament

Main articles: AN-M57 (250 lb), Mk.13, Mk.13/44, AN-M64A1 (500 lb), AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)

The SB2C-1C can be outfitted with the following ordinance:

  • 2 х 250 lb AN-M57 bombs
  • 1 х 2216 lb Mk.13 torpedo
  • 1 х 2216 lb Mk.13/44 torpedo
  • 2 х 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs
  • 1 х 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bomb

Defensive armament

Main article: Browning (7.62 mm)

The SB2C-1C is defended by:

  • 2 х 7.62 mm Browning machine guns, dorsal turret (2,000 rpg = 4,000 total)

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable Not controllable Controllable Combined Controllable Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Radiator Turret 7 mm ITC mk.III
II Compressor Airframe Offensive 20 mm Improved torpedo
III Wings Repair Engine New 7 mm MGs (turret) SBC mk.I
IV Engine Injection Cover New 20 mm cannons MBC mk.I

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Has the ability to dive bomb and level bomb.
  • Armed with a powerful pair of 20mm AN/M2 cannons.
  • Access to air brakes.
  • Similar play style as the the SBD-3 and the TBF-1c.
  • Decent durability.
  • Next to no performance penalty when carrying bombs.
  • Air frame can withstand high speed.
  • Defensive gunner has a wide coverage.
  • Internal payload.
  • Pinpoint dive bomb accuracy.
  • Can be an effective bomber hunter.

Cons:

  • Wing mounted armaments tend to be inaccurate sometimes.
  • Maximum payload is lower than both the SBD-3 and the TBF-1c.
  • Suffers from huge performance penalty when carrying a torpedo.
  • Slow.
  • Elevator tend to wildly sway after a maneuver, a trait shared by the TBF-1c.
  • Defensive armament is ineffective against armored foes.
  • Payload is ineffective against bases.

History

The SB2C-1c Helldiver was a carrier-based dive bomber made by the Curtiss company. The aircraft had been produced from 1943-1945. It was meant to replace the Douglas SBD Dauntless as a much faster alternative to the SBD Dauntless though it sacrificed mobility. Many of the crews of the SB2C-1c Helldiver nicked named this aircraft "Big-Tailed Beast", "Two-Cee", and Son of a Bitch Second Class due to the horrible turning capabilities of the aircraft. The aircraft mainly saw service in the United States Navy, United States Army Air Forces, French Air Force, and Royal Thai Air Force. It was a much larger version of the SBD Dauntless but many of the pilots that flew the SB2C-1c were disappointed with the turning capability which led many pilots to go back to the outdated SBD Dauntless as it had better turning but less speed but many pilots preferred it rather than the SB2C-1c. A total of 7,140 aircraft were produced in total from 1943-1945.

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
  • other literature.


Curtiss-Wright Corporation
Fighters  BF2C-1
  P-36A · Rasmussen's P-36A · P-36C · P-36G
  P-40C · P-40E-1 · P-40F-10
Bombers  SB2C-1C · SB2C-4
Floatplanes  SOC-1
Experimental  XP-55
Export  H-75A-1 · H-75A-4 · H-81A-2 · ▂P-40E-1 · ␗P-40E-1 · ▄P-40F-5 Lafayette · CW-21 · Hawk III
  ▄SB2C-5
Captured  ▀Hawk H-75A-2

USA bombers
Dive  SB2U-2 · SB2U-3 · SBD-3 · SB2C-1C · SB2C-4
Torpedo  TBD-1 · PBY-5 Catalina · PBY-5A Catalina · TBF-1C · BTD-1
Medium  B-10B · B-18A · B-34 · PV-2D · B-25J-1 · B-25J-20 · A-26C-45 · A-26C-45DT · B-26B
Heavy  B-17E · B-17E/L · B-17G-60-VE · PB4Y-2 · B-24D-25-CO · B-29A-BN
Hydroplanes  OS2U-1 · OS2U-3 · PBM-1 "Mariner" · PBM-3 "Mariner"

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