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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet armoured gun boat {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]] when the Soviet fleet was implemented into the game.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet armoured gun boat {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]] when the Soviet fleet was implemented into the game. It bears strong resemblance to the [[Pr.1124 (1940)|Pr. 1124 (1940)]], and inherits its main gun and its tactics.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
''Write about the ship’s mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward speed and reverse speed.''
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The ship has a moderate top speed both forward and reverse, meaning that you will never be the first to capture points. your stopping time is also somewhat poor, and so to turn round it would be better to do a U-turn in most cases. However, you rudder speed is good, and gets much better with the modification installed, so avoiding torpedoes is not an issue for the Pr. 1204.
  
 
== Armament ==
 
== Armament ==
 
=== Primary armament ===
 
=== Primary armament ===
 
{{main|D-56TS (76 mm)}}
 
{{main|D-56TS (76 mm)}}
''Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}</nowiki></code>.''
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The primary armament is roughly the same as the Pr. 1124, and offers no new shell types. It is conveniently mounted on the bow of the boat, with a blind spot directly behind the boat. Being moderately armoured,  it is rarely knocked out. HE shells are sufficient against most boats, but it is sensible to carry some of the APHE as well for larger boats such as the [[Flower class (K-218)|Flower]], [[Isles class (T-285)|Isles]] and any destroyers in an up-tier.
 
 
''Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.''
 
  
 
=== Secondary armament ===
 
=== Secondary armament ===
 
{{main|2M-3 (25 mm)}}
 
{{main|2M-3 (25 mm)}}
  
''Some ships are fitted with weapons of various calibres. Secondary armament is defined by the weapon chosen with the control <code>Select secondary weapon</code>. Evaluate the secondary armament and give advice on how to use them. Describe the ammunition available for the secondary armament. Provide recommendations on how to use them and which ammunition to choose. Remember that anti-air armament, even heavy calibre weapons, belong in the next section.''
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The secondary armament of 4 x 30 mm grenade launchers is largely superfluous  for fighting at ranges of over 1 km. It is useful, however, in close quarters fighting (not recommended), or for fending off patrol boats that get too close, something that is very challenging with only the main gun. This is a major improvement over the Pr. 1124, which had to use its 12.7 mm machine guns for this, leaving it vulnerable from the air..  
 
 
''If there is no secondary armament, remove this section.''
 
  
 
=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
 
=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
 
{{main|BP «Plamya» (30 mm)}}
 
{{main|BP «Plamya» (30 mm)}}
''An important part of the ship’s armament responsible for air raid defense. Anti-aircraft armament is defined by the weapon chosen with the control <code>Select anti-aircraft weapons</code>. Talk about the ship’s anti-air cannons and machine guns, the number of guns and their positions, their effective range, and about their overall effectiveness – including against surface targets.''
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Overall the anti aircraft defense is sufficient for dealing with one aircraft at a time, as its rate of fire and damage per shot are good. Having only one gun however leaves it vulnerable to attacks by two or more aircraft, or having the gun knocked out. It is highly capable against boats, but should be used with caution, as this leaves you vulnerable to aircraft.
 
 
''If there is no anti-aircraft artillery, remove this section.''
 
  
 
=== Special armament ===
 
=== Special armament ===
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don’t get try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).''
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The Pr. 1204 late is very similar in play style to the [[Pr.1124 (1940)|Pr. 1124 (1940)]], which you will have played before this boat. Remaining at long range is still important due to your high repair cost and thin armour, however more ships have guns capable of engaging at range at the higher BR. You have better defense against fast and evasive enemies and air power thanks to your 25 mm AA gun and the 30 mm grenade launchers, but these can be easily overwhelmed by large numbers of enemies. You are also still relatively flammable, and going into close-quarters battle is not recommended.
  
 
=== Modules ===
 
=== Modules ===
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''
 
 
 
'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
 
* Has a 30 mm grenade launcher weapon for defence in close quarter battles
 
* Has a 30 mm grenade launcher weapon for defence in close quarter battles
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* Effective AA turret
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* Powerful main gun
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* Rocket launcher highly effective on a hit
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* Moderate armour protects well against small arms fire
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* Good turn rate to avoid torpedoes
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* 30 mm grenade launcher has short range
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* Only one AA turret easily overwhelmed
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* Only one main gun, unlike Pr. 1124.
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* Rocket launcher is very difficult to hit with (similar to [[MO-4]])
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* Armour is insufficient against 20 mm auto cannons present on many boats at this BR.
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* Low top speed
  
 
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Revision as of 13:50, 25 August 2020

Rank 4 USA
USS Helena Pack
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Pr. 1204 late
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Description

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The Pr. 1204 late modification is a rank III Soviet armoured gun boat with a battle rating of 2.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced during Update 1.79 "Project X" when the Soviet fleet was implemented into the game. It bears strong resemblance to the Pr. 1124 (1940), and inherits its main gun and its tactics.

General info

Survivability and armour

Talk about the vehicle's armour. Note the most well-defended and most vulnerable zones, e.g. the ammo magazine. Evaluate the composition of components and assemblies responsible for movement and manoeuvrability. Evaluate the survivability of the primary and secondary armament separately. Don't forget to mention the size of the crew, which plays an important role in fleet mechanics. Tips for preserving survivability should be saved for the "Use in battle" section.

If necessary, use a graphic template to show the most well-protected or most vulnerable points in the armour.

Mobility

The ship has a moderate top speed both forward and reverse, meaning that you will never be the first to capture points. your stopping time is also somewhat poor, and so to turn round it would be better to do a U-turn in most cases. However, you rudder speed is good, and gets much better with the modification installed, so avoiding torpedoes is not an issue for the Pr. 1204.

Armament

Primary armament

Main article: D-56TS (76 mm)

The primary armament is roughly the same as the Pr. 1124, and offers no new shell types. It is conveniently mounted on the bow of the boat, with a blind spot directly behind the boat. Being moderately armoured, it is rarely knocked out. HE shells are sufficient against most boats, but it is sensible to carry some of the APHE as well for larger boats such as the Flower, Isles and any destroyers in an up-tier.

Secondary armament

Main article: 2M-3 (25 mm)

The secondary armament of 4 x 30 mm grenade launchers is largely superfluous for fighting at ranges of over 1 km. It is useful, however, in close quarters fighting (not recommended), or for fending off patrol boats that get too close, something that is very challenging with only the main gun. This is a major improvement over the Pr. 1124, which had to use its 12.7 mm machine guns for this, leaving it vulnerable from the air..

Anti-aircraft armament

Main article: BP «Plamya» (30 mm)

Overall the anti aircraft defense is sufficient for dealing with one aircraft at a time, as its rate of fire and damage per shot are good. Having only one gun however leaves it vulnerable to attacks by two or more aircraft, or having the gun knocked out. It is highly capable against boats, but should be used with caution, as this leaves you vulnerable to aircraft.

Special armament

Main article: BM-14-17 (140 mm)

Depth charges, mines, rocket launchers and missiles are also effective in skilled hands and can be an unexpected surprise for an opponent. Evaluate the ammunition of this type of armament and rate its performance in combat.

Usage in battles

The Pr. 1204 late is very similar in play style to the Pr. 1124 (1940), which you will have played before this boat. Remaining at long range is still important due to your high repair cost and thin armour, however more ships have guns capable of engaging at range at the higher BR. You have better defense against fast and evasive enemies and air power thanks to your 25 mm AA gun and the 30 mm grenade launchers, but these can be easily overwhelmed by large numbers of enemies. You are also still relatively flammable, and going into close-quarters battle is not recommended.

Modules

Tier Seakeeping Unsinkability Firepower
I Dry-Docking Tool Set 25 mm HE magazines Anti-Air Armament Targeting
II Rudder Replacement Fire Protection System Smokescreen 25 mm AP magazines Auxiliary Armament Targeting 53-BR-354
III Propeller Replacement Rocket Launcher Primary Armament Targeting Improved Rangefinder
IV Engine Maintenance New Pumps

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Has a 30 mm grenade launcher weapon for defence in close quarter battles
  • Effective AA turret
  • Powerful main gun
  • Rocket launcher highly effective on a hit
  • Moderate armour protects well against small arms fire
  • Good turn rate to avoid torpedoes

Cons:

  • 30 mm grenade launcher has short range
  • Only one AA turret easily overwhelmed
  • Only one main gun, unlike Pr. 1124.
  • Rocket launcher is very difficult to hit with (similar to MO-4)
  • Armour is insufficient against 20 mm auto cannons present on many boats at this BR.
  • Low top speed

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.

Media

An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the ship;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on ship;
  • other literature.


USSR boats
Motor torpedo boats  D-3 · G-5 · G-5 TKA 106 · Pr. 123bis · Pr. 123K (A-11) · Pr. 123K "Komsomolets" · Pr.183
Motor gun boats  G-5 (ShVAK) · MO-4 · OD-200 · Ya-5M
Motor torpedo gun boats  Pr. 206 · Pr. 206M · MPK pr. 12412
Gunboats  Groza
Armoured gun boats  BMO · MBK-161 (1943) · MBK-161 (1944) · MBK pr.186 · MBK pr.186 (MK 85) · Pr.1124 (1940) · Pr.1124 (1945) · Pr.1124 MLRS
  Pr.191 · Pr.191M · Pr. 1204 · Pr. 1204 late