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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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| + | The '''23 mm PTB-23''' is a Soviet aircraft armament that saw brief use in World War II. Due to production issues with the weapon, the PTB-23 did not see widespread use among the Soviet Air Force, seeing most use in evaluation stages or in prototypes like the [[I-301]]. | ||
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | === Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | ||
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* {{Specs-Link|lagg-i-301}} | * {{Specs-Link|lagg-i-301}} | ||
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! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics | ! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics | ||
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| − | ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | | + | ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt |
| − | ! colspan="6" | | + | ! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) |
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m | ! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m | ||
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| − | | Default || | + | | Default || 46 || 42 || 29 || 19 || 12 || 8 |
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| − | | Universal || | + | | Universal || 46 || 42 || 29 || 19 || 12 || 8 |
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| − | | Armored targets || | + | | Armored targets || 46 || 42 || 29 || 19 || 12 || 8 |
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=== Comparison with analogues === | === Comparison with analogues === | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
| − | ''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against | + | ''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.'' |
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
| − | '' | + | ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.'' |
'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
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In the late 1930s, the Soviet Air Force desired a 23 mm cartridge for a more powerful round than the 7.62 mm and 20 mm armament available for their aircraft. As the cartridge was developed, the task of developing an armament for the round went to OKB-14, OKB-16, and TsKB-14. OKB-16, with a team led by M.N. Baburin and consisting of A.E. Nudelman, A.S. Suranov, V.L. Taubkin, P.I. Gribkov and others, soon developed a cannon designated ''MP-3''.<ref name="Russiansource"><nowiki>авиару.рф</nowiki>. n.d.</ref> The MP-3 used a long recoil mechanism that was fed by a cartridge clip magazine. With a fire rate of 300 rounds per minute (RPM), the Soviet Air Force found the weapon unsatisfactory and requested the fire rate to be at least 600 RPM. The weapon had to be modified with a stiffer recoil spring and a shorter barrel recoil while retaining the recoil length of the breechblock through the use of an accelerator lever. The weapon was redesignated ''MP-6'' (мотор-пушка/"motor-pushka" or "Engine Cannon" with 600 rounds per minute).<ref name="Koll-1">Koll 2009, 181-182</ref> | In the late 1930s, the Soviet Air Force desired a 23 mm cartridge for a more powerful round than the 7.62 mm and 20 mm armament available for their aircraft. As the cartridge was developed, the task of developing an armament for the round went to OKB-14, OKB-16, and TsKB-14. OKB-16, with a team led by M.N. Baburin and consisting of A.E. Nudelman, A.S. Suranov, V.L. Taubkin, P.I. Gribkov and others, soon developed a cannon designated ''MP-3''.<ref name="Russiansource"><nowiki>авиару.рф</nowiki>. n.d.</ref> The MP-3 used a long recoil mechanism that was fed by a cartridge clip magazine. With a fire rate of 300 rounds per minute (RPM), the Soviet Air Force found the weapon unsatisfactory and requested the fire rate to be at least 600 RPM. The weapon had to be modified with a stiffer recoil spring and a shorter barrel recoil while retaining the recoil length of the breechblock through the use of an accelerator lever. The weapon was redesignated ''MP-6'' (мотор-пушка/"motor-pushka" or "Engine Cannon" with 600 rounds per minute).<ref name="Koll-1">Koll 2009, 181-182</ref> | ||
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The MP-6/PTB-23 led to other usage and development outside of aircraft usage. In Tula, spare PTB cannons from the factory were converted to anti-aircraft guns with the use of carriages designed by N.F. Tokarev for the Battle of Tula in late 1941. The PTB-23 was also trialed as an experimental weapon for the T-40 light tank as the PT-23TB.<ref name="Koll-1"/> This configuration was trialed in January 1941, but the T-40's turret could not withstand the PT-23TB's recoil and so the configuration was not accepted.<ref name="Koll-2">Koll 2009, 376</ref> | The MP-6/PTB-23 led to other usage and development outside of aircraft usage. In Tula, spare PTB cannons from the factory were converted to anti-aircraft guns with the use of carriages designed by N.F. Tokarev for the Battle of Tula in late 1941. The PTB-23 was also trialed as an experimental weapon for the T-40 light tank as the PT-23TB.<ref name="Koll-1"/> This configuration was trialed in January 1941, but the T-40's turret could not withstand the PT-23TB's recoil and so the configuration was not accepted.<ref name="Koll-2">Koll 2009, 376</ref> | ||
| − | The experience in developing the PTB-23 led OKB-16 had designers A.E. Nudelman and A.S. | + | The experience in developing the PTB-23 led OKB-16 had designers A.E. Nudelman and A.S. Suranov utilize a similar belt-feed mechanism in the [[NS-37 (37 mm)|NS-37]] cannon design.<ref name="Koll-3">Koll 2009, 355-356</ref> |
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== Media == | == Media == | ||
| − | '' | + | ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' |
== See also == | == See also == | ||
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* [[VYa-23 (23 mm)]] - Competing design | * [[VYa-23 (23 mm)]] - Competing design | ||
* [[NS-37 (37 mm)]] - Another weapon from the same design bureau. | * [[NS-37 (37 mm)]] - Another weapon from the same design bureau. | ||
== External links == | == External links == | ||
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* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
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===References=== | ===References=== | ||
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* Koll, Christian. 2009. ''Soviet Cannon: A Comprehensive Study of Soviet Guns and Ammunition in Calibres 12.7MM to 57 MM''. Austria: self-published. | * Koll, Christian. 2009. ''Soviet Cannon: A Comprehensive Study of Soviet Guns and Ammunition in Calibres 12.7MM to 57 MM''. Austria: self-published. | ||
* <nowiki>авиару.рф</nowiki>. n.d. "23-мм авиационная пушка МП-6." Accessed December 28, 2021. [http://xn--80aafy5bs.xn--p1ai/aviamuseum/dvigateli-i-vooruzhenie/aviatsionnoe-vooruzhenie/sssr/aviatsionnye-pushki/23-mm-aviatsionnaya-pushka-mp-6/ Webpage] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20211229013633/http://xn--80aafy5bs.xn--p1ai/aviamuseum/dvigateli-i-vooruzhenie/aviatsionnoe-vooruzhenie/sssr/aviatsionnye-pushki/23-mm-aviatsionnaya-pushka-mp-6/ Archive]) | * <nowiki>авиару.рф</nowiki>. n.d. "23-мм авиационная пушка МП-6." Accessed December 28, 2021. [http://xn--80aafy5bs.xn--p1ai/aviamuseum/dvigateli-i-vooruzhenie/aviatsionnoe-vooruzhenie/sssr/aviatsionnye-pushki/23-mm-aviatsionnaya-pushka-mp-6/ Webpage] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20211229013633/http://xn--80aafy5bs.xn--p1ai/aviamuseum/dvigateli-i-vooruzhenie/aviatsionnoe-vooruzhenie/sssr/aviatsionnye-pushki/23-mm-aviatsionnaya-pushka-mp-6/ Archive]) | ||
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{{USSR aircraft cannons}} | {{USSR aircraft cannons}} | ||
[[Category:Aircraft cannons]] | [[Category:Aircraft cannons]] | ||
Latest revision as of 15:41, 8 October 2022
Contents
Description
The 23 mm PTB-23 is a Soviet aircraft armament that saw brief use in World War II. Due to production issues with the weapon, the PTB-23 did not see widespread use among the Soviet Air Force, seeing most use in evaluation stages or in prototypes like the I-301.
Vehicles equipped with this weapon
General info
Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.
Available ammunition
- Default: FI-T · AP-I
- Universal: FI · FI-T · AP-I
- Armored targets: AP-I · AP-I · AP-I · FI-T
| Penetration statistics | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Belt | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | |
| Default | 46 | 42 | 29 | 19 | 12 | 8 |
| Universal | 46 | 42 | 29 | 19 | 12 | 8 |
| Armored targets | 46 | 42 | 29 | 19 | 12 | 8 |
Comparison with analogues
Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.
Usage in battles
Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.
Pros and cons
Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.
Pros:
Cons:
History
In the late 1930s, the Soviet Air Force desired a 23 mm cartridge for a more powerful round than the 7.62 mm and 20 mm armament available for their aircraft. As the cartridge was developed, the task of developing an armament for the round went to OKB-14, OKB-16, and TsKB-14. OKB-16, with a team led by M.N. Baburin and consisting of A.E. Nudelman, A.S. Suranov, V.L. Taubkin, P.I. Gribkov and others, soon developed a cannon designated MP-3.[1] The MP-3 used a long recoil mechanism that was fed by a cartridge clip magazine. With a fire rate of 300 rounds per minute (RPM), the Soviet Air Force found the weapon unsatisfactory and requested the fire rate to be at least 600 RPM. The weapon had to be modified with a stiffer recoil spring and a shorter barrel recoil while retaining the recoil length of the breechblock through the use of an accelerator lever. The weapon was redesignated MP-6 (мотор-пушка/"motor-pushka" or "Engine Cannon" with 600 rounds per minute).[2]
In 1940, the weapon was tested in aircraft, which included a German Bf-110 (alongside TsKB-14's VYa-23 cannon), a VK-105 engine gun mount of the LaGG-3 fighter and the wing armament of the IL-2. However, the original cartridge clip magazine for the weapon proved too bulky for a wing mount, and so A.E. Nudelman redesigned the weapon to accept a belt feed system. Now suitable as an armament, the MP-6 was approved for production in November 1940 as the PTB-23, named as a 23 mm cannon (пушка/"pushka") developed under OKB-16 head Ya.G. Taubin and lead designer N.N. Bauburin.[2] However, initial production runs at Tula and Kovrov with the weapon was unreliable, in part due to its rather complicated operating mechanism. The rate of failure was such that the PTB-23 was experiencing an issue every 15 rounds, while the ShVAK had one every 220 rounds.[1] As Spring 1941 came along, the PTB-23 was again evaluated against the TsKB-14's VYa-23 cannon. Although both guns passed the state evaluation, continued production issues and resulting unreliability caused the VYa to be adopted instead, with the PTB-23 withdrawn from production in May 1941.[2]
The MP-6/PTB-23 led to other usage and development outside of aircraft usage. In Tula, spare PTB cannons from the factory were converted to anti-aircraft guns with the use of carriages designed by N.F. Tokarev for the Battle of Tula in late 1941. The PTB-23 was also trialed as an experimental weapon for the T-40 light tank as the PT-23TB.[2] This configuration was trialed in January 1941, but the T-40's turret could not withstand the PT-23TB's recoil and so the configuration was not accepted.[3]
The experience in developing the PTB-23 led OKB-16 had designers A.E. Nudelman and A.S. Suranov utilize a similar belt-feed mechanism in the NS-37 cannon design.[4]
Media
Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.
See also
- VYa-23 (23 mm) - Competing design
- NS-37 (37 mm) - Another weapon from the same design bureau.
External links
References
- Citations
- Bibliography
- Koll, Christian. 2009. Soviet Cannon: A Comprehensive Study of Soviet Guns and Ammunition in Calibres 12.7MM to 57 MM. Austria: self-published.
- авиару.рф. n.d. "23-мм авиационная пушка МП-6." Accessed December 28, 2021. Webpage (Archive)
| USSR aircraft cannons | |
|---|---|
| 20 mm | B-20E · B-20M · B-20S · ShVAK |
| 23 mm | GSh-23L · NR-23 · NS-23 · NS-23K · PTB-23 · VYa-23 |
| 30 mm | 2A42 · GSh-6-30 · GSh-30-1 · GSh-30-2 · GSh-30-2K · NR-30 |
| 37 mm | N-37 · N-37D · NS-37 · SH-37 |
| 45 mm | NS-45 |
| Foreign: | |
| 20 mm | Hispano Mk.II (Britain) · MG 151 (Germany) |
| 37 mm | M4 (USA) · M10 (USA) |
