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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American motor torpedo boat {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]] in the [[wt:en/news/6521-special-operation-f-r-o-s-t-en|Operation F.R.O.S.T.]] event
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American motor torpedo boat {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]] in the [[wt:en/news/6521-special-operation-f-r-o-s-t-en|Operation F.R.O.S.T.]] event as the first naval reward ship for acquiring 5 of the 12 available "Mark of Distinction"s.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Talk about the vehicle's armour. Note the most well-defended and most vulnerable zones, e.g. the ammo magazine. Evaluate the composition of components and assemblies responsible for movement and manoeuvrability. Evaluate the survivability of the primary and secondary armaments separately. Don't forget to mention the size of the crew, which plays an important role in fleet mechanics. Save tips on preserving survivability for the "Usage in battles" section. If necessary, use a graphical template to show the most well-protected or most vulnerable points in the armour.''
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''PT-811 is a step-up over her tech tree cousins, as she isn't made of wood and her hull instead is made of 10mm of steel. This allows her to absorb rifle and machinegun calibre projectiles somewhat well, which is helpful when a plane goes for a straferun, but against most of your waterborne opponents (who, on average, will be totting multiple autocannons or even larger weapons) you're not likely to take much more than a few salvos to be sent to the bottom, especially if one is unfortunate to come across some of the early destroyers, who's large calibre artillery will hullbreak you with a single good hit. Her somewhat large crew for a PT boat will make sure that near misses or weaker attacks won't send you back to the hangar as quickly as other PT boats, but overall her survivability lies not within her hull, but her mobility.''
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.''
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''This is where PT-811 comes into a league of her own. Four 2,500hp Packard W-100 gasoline engines powering four shafts combined with a new design of hull leads to PT-811 being one of the fastest vessels in War Thunder to date! Clocking in at a rapid 102km/h (63mph) in Realistic Battles, and a whopping 143km/h (89mph) in Arcade Battles makes you an incredibly fast boat, even outracing some hydrofoils such as the PGH-2 and PG-02! This allows you to not only capture objectives far faster than many other players, but allows you to enact lightning fast attacks against larger vessels, as your massive speed gives you the advantage you need to get close, launch those torpedoes, and get scramble for cover before they even know what hit them! PT-811 isn't perfect in the mobility department however, as coming to a full stop or reversing is quite a chore, as her low-drag hull makes it difficult to slow down, and her rudder shift isn't quite as sharp as some other PTs, so make sure to plan your next move carefully, otherwise you might find yourself overshooting your cover, and finding yourself in open water or ran aground and in full sight of the enemy.''
  
 
== Armament ==
 
== Armament ==
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{{main|Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (40 mm)}}
 
{{main|Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (40 mm)}}
  
''Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{main|Weapon name (calibre)}</nowiki></code>. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.''
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''To those of you who have already played quite a few of the later American PT boats, you will be very familiar with the legendary Bofors already, and how good it is at tearing apart softer targets such as other PT boats, or overconfident aircraft. With a somewhat fast firerate, good shell velocity and very punchy ammo, it will only take a few good hits to bring down any aircraft getting close, and will more than happily destroy any other PT boat you might find on your travels from point to point. They're also quite good at taking out key modules on larger vessels, such as a main turret that's slewing towards you, or a stack of depth charges on the rear of an enemy destroyer. Anything bigger, though, and they will begin to struggle. Don't expect them to be able to gun down a destroyer! Punching lots of small holes on the waterline might seem like a good tactic at first, but it will take a while for them to go under, leaving you very vulnerable to counterfire, which won't end well for you.''
  
 
=== Secondary armament ===
 
=== Secondary armament ===
 
{{main|Oerlikon Mark 24 (20 mm)}}
 
{{main|Oerlikon Mark 24 (20 mm)}}
  
''Some ships are fitted with weapons of various calibres. Secondary armaments are defined as weapons chosen with the control <code>Select secondary weapon</code>. Evaluate the secondary armaments and give advice on how to use them. Describe the ammunition available for the secondary armament. Provide recommendations on how to use them and which ammunition to choose. Remember that any anti-air armament, even heavy calibre weapons, belong in the next section. If there is no secondary armament, remove this section.''
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''Another weapon most American PT captains will be very used to at this point. With a fast fire rate, quick reload, and quite hard hitting shells, the Oerlikon 20mm cannons are the butter to the Bofors bread. Whilst they aren't quite as lethal as one might be used to, due to the fact that PT-811 will be fighting thicker skinned targets than what lower BR PT boats are used to. They make for great backup anti-air guns for when you're busy fighting surface targets. Don't rely on them totally, though, as a more experienced pilot will know how to better avoid their fire, or will attempt to use cover to get within striking range before the Oerlikons have chance to light them up.''
  
 
=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
 
=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
 
{{main|Mk 2 mortar}}
 
{{main|Mk 2 mortar}}
  
''An important part of the ship's armament responsible for air defence. Anti-aircraft armament is defined by the weapon chosen with the control <code>Select anti-aircraft weapons</code>. Talk about the ship's anti-air cannons and machine guns, the number of guns and their positions, their effective range, and about their overall effectiveness – including against surface targets. If there are no anti-aircraft armaments, remove this section.''
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''Sadly the 81mm mortar is not the best weapon for anti-ship or anti-aircraft warfare, as it's slow fire rate, bad ballistics, slow shell travel speed and somewhat lackluster bursting charge render this weapon mostly useless, but can find very limited use when a particular soft target is hiding behind cover and isn't moving. One can use the high ballistic arc to shoot over solid cover to strike a hiding opponent, forcing them to come out and fight or to suffer a slow death by mortar shelling.''
  
 
=== Torpedo armament ===
 
=== Torpedo armament ===
{{main|Mk.13 (569 mm)}}
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{{main|Mk.16 (533 mm)}}
  
''Torpedoes launchers are standard equipment on many ships and boats. Torpedoes are a significant means of defeating an opponent. Evaluate the position of the torpedo launchers, discuss the ammunition available, firing specifics such as dead zones, features of the torpedoes themselves, etc. If there is no torpedo armament, remove this section.''
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''Recently PT-811 had it's torpedoes changed from the 569mm Mark 13 torpedoes to the far more potent 533mm Mark 16 torpedoes. These newer torpedoes travel fast, at 85km/h, and have a rather long travel distance of 6.40km. The real kicker of these torpedoes is their bursting charge, however, as they have 572kg of torpex as their warhead, which is equal to a massive 915.2kg worth of TNT! This ensures that any vessel that's unlucky enough to be hit by even one of these torpedoes is crippled hard, if not sank outright by such a heavy hit. This makes PT-811 a very ferocious threat to the large ships of War Thunder, as these powerful torpedoes combined with her very fast hull makes for a small and fast mosquito with a lion's bite! Oh, and did I mention you have four of them?''
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).''
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''PT-811 is the embodiment of the PT idea. A very small and fast vessel with ship-killing torpedoes, capable of striking fast, dealing a lot of damage, and then getting out of trouble as fast as it got into it whilst having enough guns to protect itself from planes and other small vessels. It's the apex of its kind, and should be played as such. Use that massive speed advantage to take capture zones or key ambush positions very early into a match, catch large enemy vessels by surprise, launch your attack and then retreat just as fast before your target or his allies have chance to retaliate. Whilst you have good guns, attacking other small ships is probably better left to your allies in better equipped vessels, as your thin hull and small crew won't last long under concentrated fire. A few opponents to be very wary of are "PT-Killer" boats, such as the PG-02, Pr.206 or Jaguar-Klasse (140), as these boats have enough speed to keep up with you long enough for their powerful armament to send you to the bottom. If the worst happens and you find yourself against one of these opponents or something similar, try to shoot out their main guns and run whilst their repairing. This also works well against frigate-like vessels such as the Pr.159 and River-class. A final key opponent to keep an eye out for is low flying attacker aircraft armed with big calibre guns or rockets, such as the IL-2 or the Beaufighter. These planes are tough enough to take a good few 20mm hits and rip you up with their powerful guns, so keep an ear out for that tell-tale whirr of propellers and be ready to switch to your 20mms, or better yet, guess where they're coming from and have your Bofors ready to greet them.''
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''
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'''Pros:'''
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Incredibly fast!
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Effective and powerful torpedoes
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Solid weaponry for a ship of this type
  
'''Pros:'''
 
 
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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Hullbreaks easily from any high-calibre direct hit
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Poor deceleration and mediocre rudder shift
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Regularly faces very powerful boats that outgun it
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== History ==
 
== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
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''PT-811 was laid down on the 17th of March, 1949 by John Trumpy and Sons in Annapolis, MD. She was then launched on the 30th of November, 1950 and subsequently completed on the 6th of March 1951. She was part of a program to use lessons learned in World War Two to create a new generation of PT boats, and to evaluate their worth. Despite stellar performance in comparison to the vessels used in World War Two, there simply wasn't much of a need for PT boats in modern war, and so she was struck from the Naval Register on the 1st of November, 1959. For a brief stint she was brought back from her mothballed state to be reinstated onto the Naval Register and was reclassified as Fast Patrol Craft, '''PTF-2''' on the 21st of December, 1962. Sadly, her new chance at life was soon over as she was sunk as a target sometime in August of 1965 off of the Hawaiian Islands, where she assumedly lays to this day.''
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
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[[File:PT-811 in hangar.jpg|thumb|PT-811 in the hangar, and without the Measure 20L event camouflage. Note the 533mm Mark 16 torpedoes, and the unique "811" decal that comes with this vessel.]]
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
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* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
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* [[89 ft PT-810]] A tech-tree equivalent of 811, that shares a similar history and playstyle
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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* [[Brave class (P1011)]] A British Tech-tree equivalent that shares a similar playstyle
  
 
== External links ==
 
== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
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* http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/05811.htm
* ''encyclopedia page on the ship;''
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* http://www.navypedia.org/ships/usa/us_pt_pt811.htm
* ''other literature.''
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* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PT_boat
  
 
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Revision as of 19:18, 23 January 2020

PT-811
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The 94 ft PT-811 is a gift rank IV American motor torpedo boat with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced during Update 1.95 "Northern Wind" in the Operation F.R.O.S.T. event as the first naval reward ship for acquiring 5 of the 12 available "Mark of Distinction"s.

General info

Survivability and armour

PT-811 is a step-up over her tech tree cousins, as she isn't made of wood and her hull instead is made of 10mm of steel. This allows her to absorb rifle and machinegun calibre projectiles somewhat well, which is helpful when a plane goes for a straferun, but against most of your waterborne opponents (who, on average, will be totting multiple autocannons or even larger weapons) you're not likely to take much more than a few salvos to be sent to the bottom, especially if one is unfortunate to come across some of the early destroyers, who's large calibre artillery will hullbreak you with a single good hit. Her somewhat large crew for a PT boat will make sure that near misses or weaker attacks won't send you back to the hangar as quickly as other PT boats, but overall her survivability lies not within her hull, but her mobility.

Mobility

This is where PT-811 comes into a league of her own. Four 2,500hp Packard W-100 gasoline engines powering four shafts combined with a new design of hull leads to PT-811 being one of the fastest vessels in War Thunder to date! Clocking in at a rapid 102km/h (63mph) in Realistic Battles, and a whopping 143km/h (89mph) in Arcade Battles makes you an incredibly fast boat, even outracing some hydrofoils such as the PGH-2 and PG-02! This allows you to not only capture objectives far faster than many other players, but allows you to enact lightning fast attacks against larger vessels, as your massive speed gives you the advantage you need to get close, launch those torpedoes, and get scramble for cover before they even know what hit them! PT-811 isn't perfect in the mobility department however, as coming to a full stop or reversing is quite a chore, as her low-drag hull makes it difficult to slow down, and her rudder shift isn't quite as sharp as some other PTs, so make sure to plan your next move carefully, otherwise you might find yourself overshooting your cover, and finding yourself in open water or ran aground and in full sight of the enemy.

Armament

Primary armament

To those of you who have already played quite a few of the later American PT boats, you will be very familiar with the legendary Bofors already, and how good it is at tearing apart softer targets such as other PT boats, or overconfident aircraft. With a somewhat fast firerate, good shell velocity and very punchy ammo, it will only take a few good hits to bring down any aircraft getting close, and will more than happily destroy any other PT boat you might find on your travels from point to point. They're also quite good at taking out key modules on larger vessels, such as a main turret that's slewing towards you, or a stack of depth charges on the rear of an enemy destroyer. Anything bigger, though, and they will begin to struggle. Don't expect them to be able to gun down a destroyer! Punching lots of small holes on the waterline might seem like a good tactic at first, but it will take a while for them to go under, leaving you very vulnerable to counterfire, which won't end well for you.

Secondary armament

Another weapon most American PT captains will be very used to at this point. With a fast fire rate, quick reload, and quite hard hitting shells, the Oerlikon 20mm cannons are the butter to the Bofors bread. Whilst they aren't quite as lethal as one might be used to, due to the fact that PT-811 will be fighting thicker skinned targets than what lower BR PT boats are used to. They make for great backup anti-air guns for when you're busy fighting surface targets. Don't rely on them totally, though, as a more experienced pilot will know how to better avoid their fire, or will attempt to use cover to get within striking range before the Oerlikons have chance to light them up.

Anti-aircraft armament

Main article: Mk 2 mortar

Sadly the 81mm mortar is not the best weapon for anti-ship or anti-aircraft warfare, as it's slow fire rate, bad ballistics, slow shell travel speed and somewhat lackluster bursting charge render this weapon mostly useless, but can find very limited use when a particular soft target is hiding behind cover and isn't moving. One can use the high ballistic arc to shoot over solid cover to strike a hiding opponent, forcing them to come out and fight or to suffer a slow death by mortar shelling.

Torpedo armament

Main article: Mk.16 (533 mm)

Recently PT-811 had it's torpedoes changed from the 569mm Mark 13 torpedoes to the far more potent 533mm Mark 16 torpedoes. These newer torpedoes travel fast, at 85km/h, and have a rather long travel distance of 6.40km. The real kicker of these torpedoes is their bursting charge, however, as they have 572kg of torpex as their warhead, which is equal to a massive 915.2kg worth of TNT! This ensures that any vessel that's unlucky enough to be hit by even one of these torpedoes is crippled hard, if not sank outright by such a heavy hit. This makes PT-811 a very ferocious threat to the large ships of War Thunder, as these powerful torpedoes combined with her very fast hull makes for a small and fast mosquito with a lion's bite! Oh, and did I mention you have four of them?

Usage in battles

PT-811 is the embodiment of the PT idea. A very small and fast vessel with ship-killing torpedoes, capable of striking fast, dealing a lot of damage, and then getting out of trouble as fast as it got into it whilst having enough guns to protect itself from planes and other small vessels. It's the apex of its kind, and should be played as such. Use that massive speed advantage to take capture zones or key ambush positions very early into a match, catch large enemy vessels by surprise, launch your attack and then retreat just as fast before your target or his allies have chance to retaliate. Whilst you have good guns, attacking other small ships is probably better left to your allies in better equipped vessels, as your thin hull and small crew won't last long under concentrated fire. A few opponents to be very wary of are "PT-Killer" boats, such as the PG-02, Pr.206 or Jaguar-Klasse (140), as these boats have enough speed to keep up with you long enough for their powerful armament to send you to the bottom. If the worst happens and you find yourself against one of these opponents or something similar, try to shoot out their main guns and run whilst their repairing. This also works well against frigate-like vessels such as the Pr.159 and River-class. A final key opponent to keep an eye out for is low flying attacker aircraft armed with big calibre guns or rockets, such as the IL-2 or the Beaufighter. These planes are tough enough to take a good few 20mm hits and rip you up with their powerful guns, so keep an ear out for that tell-tale whirr of propellers and be ready to switch to your 20mms, or better yet, guess where they're coming from and have your Bofors ready to greet them.

Pros and cons

Pros:

Incredibly fast!

Effective and powerful torpedoes

Solid weaponry for a ship of this type

Cons:

Hullbreaks easily from any high-calibre direct hit

Poor deceleration and mediocre rudder shift

Regularly faces very powerful boats that outgun it

History

PT-811 was laid down on the 17th of March, 1949 by John Trumpy and Sons in Annapolis, MD. She was then launched on the 30th of November, 1950 and subsequently completed on the 6th of March 1951. She was part of a program to use lessons learned in World War Two to create a new generation of PT boats, and to evaluate their worth. Despite stellar performance in comparison to the vessels used in World War Two, there simply wasn't much of a need for PT boats in modern war, and so she was struck from the Naval Register on the 1st of November, 1959. For a brief stint she was brought back from her mothballed state to be reinstated onto the Naval Register and was reclassified as Fast Patrol Craft, PTF-2 on the 21st of December, 1962. Sadly, her new chance at life was soon over as she was sunk as a target sometime in August of 1965 off of the Hawaiian Islands, where she assumedly lays to this day.

Media

PT-811 in the hangar, and without the Measure 20L event camouflage. Note the 533mm Mark 16 torpedoes, and the unique "811" decal that comes with this vessel.

See also

  • 89 ft PT-810 A tech-tree equivalent of 811, that shares a similar history and playstyle
  • Brave class (P1011) A British Tech-tree equivalent that shares a similar playstyle

External links


USA boats
Motor torpedo boats  PT-3 · PT-6 · PT-20 · PT-71 · PT-103 · PT-109 · PT-174
  PT-200 · PT-314 · Thunderbolt (PT-556) · PT-565 · PT-658 · PT-810 · PT-811 · PT-812
Motor gun boats  Kim Qui · LCS(L)(3) · PT-59 · PTF-7 · USS Candid · USS Asheville · USS Douglas · USS Tucumcari · USS Cyclone
Armoured gun boats  LCM(6) Zippo

USA premium ships
Motor torpedo boats  PT-3 · PT-109 · PT-174 · Thunderbolt (PT-556) · PT-658 · PT-811
Motor gun boats  LCM(6) Zippo · USS Douglas
Sub-chasers  Carmi (PC-466)
Destroyers  USS Welborn C. Wood · USS Wilkinson · USS Bennion · USS Cowell · USS Davis · USS Moffett · USS Phelps · USS Frank Knox
Light cruisers  USS Detroit · USS Helena
Heavy cruisers  USS Des Moines
Battleships  USS Arkansas

Winter events
2022  Winter Quest
Pilot stars  Late 298D · ◄Tornado IDS MFG
Tanker stars  T-80UM2
Sailor stars  USS Newport News
2021  Operation W.I.N.T.E.R.
Pilot stars  C. 202D · ◊MiG-23MF
Tanker stars  A.C.I · AGS
Sailor stars  IJN Hayanami · MPK Pr.201K
2020  Operation W.I.N.T.E.R.
Pilot stars  Ro.57 Quadriarma · MiG-21PFM
Tanker stars  E.B.R. (1954) · Class 3 (P)
Sailor stars  Type K-8 No.13 · USS Baltimore
2019  Operation F.R.O.S.T.
Pilot stars  TIS MA · J6K1
Tanker stars  QF 3.7 Ram · ▃Merkava Mk.2B
Sailor stars  PT-811 · Jaguar
2018  Festive Quest
Pilot stars  M.B.152C1 · Fw 190 C
Tanker stars  SU-85A · T30
Christmas Lights  P-43A-1 · Comet I "Iron Duke IV"
2017  Festive Quest
Pilot christmas toys  P-40C · NC.900
Tanker christmas toys  AEC Mk II · Ersatz M10
Christmas Lights  Fw 189 A-1 · KV-2 (1940)
2016  Winter Holiday
Pilot stages  Ki-21-I hei · Me 262 A-2a
Tanker stages  ▃LVT(A)(4) (ZIS-2) · ▂Type 62
2015  War Thunder Fulfills Your Wishes!
Pilot reward  ▂P-63C-5
Tanker reward  VK 45.01 (P)
2014  Holiday War Thunder Marathon!
Pilot reward  I-301
Tanker reward  M8A1 GMC