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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} American motor torpedo boat {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ground Breaking"]]. | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} American motor torpedo boat {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ground Breaking"]]. | ||
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| + | The PT-174 is one of the more distinctive member of the Elco PT boat family. Instead of focusing its firepower at a chasing enemy from the stern, the PT-174's main firepower - a powerful 40 mm Bofors autocannon - is placed at the bow instead. This allows the PT-174 to be played more aggresively than its counterparts. Although it does share the same weak hull of the Elco family, the PT-174 has a great potential when its strength and weakness are well understood, thus allowing it to tackle even the seemingly superior coastal boats at higher ranks. | ||
== General info == | == General info == | ||
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| − | Being one of the numerous 80 ft Elco PT boats, the PT-174's protection is rather poor. The 6.35 mm of armor around the helmsman being the only protection this wooden-hull boat has to offer. The boat has a crew of 12 men, up to 9 of them can be lost before the boat starts to sink. Due to the boat has only three sections with three crews each, it is particularly vulnerable against shell with high penetration at the front and any autocannons at the sides. | + | Being one of the numerous 80 ft Elco PT boats, the PT-174's protection is rather poor. The 12.7 mm of the Oerlikon autocannon gun shield and the 6.35 mm of armor around the helmsman being the only protection this wooden-hull boat has to offer. The boat has a crew of 12 men, up to 9 of them can be lost before the boat starts to sink. Due to the boat has only three sections with three crews each, it is particularly vulnerable against shell with high penetration at the front and any autocannons at the sides. |
=== Mobility === | === Mobility === | ||
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The PT-174 features the 40 mm Bofors L/60 Mark 3 autocannon placed at the bow of the boat. This peculiar placement is unusual compared to the other Elco boats, as they were usually placed at the stern, and this feature cannot be found until the rank V [[PT-810]]. Due to this, the PT-174 has a unique offensive capability compared to its brethren. Unlike the other Elco boats that were forced to show its broadsides to utilize their Bofors, the PT-174 is capable of going "bow-in" against the enemy, and offers easy gun handling while reducing the boat's vulnerability to enemy fire in the process. | The PT-174 features the 40 mm Bofors L/60 Mark 3 autocannon placed at the bow of the boat. This peculiar placement is unusual compared to the other Elco boats, as they were usually placed at the stern, and this feature cannot be found until the rank V [[PT-810]]. Due to this, the PT-174 has a unique offensive capability compared to its brethren. Unlike the other Elco boats that were forced to show its broadsides to utilize their Bofors, the PT-174 is capable of going "bow-in" against the enemy, and offers easy gun handling while reducing the boat's vulnerability to enemy fire in the process. | ||
| − | The Bofors utilize two shells; an AP-T round with high penetration of 58 mm at 1,000 m and 41 mm at 2,000 m, and an HEFI-T shell with a large explosive filler. Due to the boat's fragile hull, the AP-T belt is preferred due to its effectiveness at long range engagements, although an "Universal" belt with a balance mix of AP-T and HEFI-T can also be considered for engaging aircraft. | + | The Bofors utilize two shells; an AP-T round with high penetration of 58 mm at 1,000 m and 41 mm at 2,000 m, and an HEFI-T shell with a large explosive filler. Due to the boat's fragile hull, the AP-T belt is preferred due to its effectiveness at long range engagements (up to 2.5 km), although an "Universal" belt with a balance mix of AP-T and HEFI-T can also be considered for engaging aircraft. |
| − | While having a frontally-mounted Bofors has many benefits, it's not without downsides. The gun lacks any shield to protect it and its gunner from any enemy fire, exposing it to | + | While having a frontally-mounted Bofors has many benefits, it's not without downsides. The gun lacks any shield to protect it and its gunner from any enemy fire, exposing it to any incoming shots and made it rather easy to get disabled and leaving the boat vulnerable. The PT-174 is also a rather unstable gun platform at high speed, which significantly hampers the gun handling, especially in rough sea conditions. This can be partially remedied by slowing the boat down to around 60-70 km. |
=== Secondary armament === | === Secondary armament === | ||
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{{main|20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II (20 mm)}} | {{main|20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II (20 mm)}} | ||
| − | + | The PT-174 features a single 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II autocannon at the stern as a secondary armament. While not as impressive as the Bofors at the bow, the Oerlikon offers good damage output within the 2 km range. Due to the vulnerable boardsides of the boat, however, the Oerlikon is best reserved from countering flankers and inbound aircrafts. | |
=== Anti-aircraft armament === | === Anti-aircraft armament === | ||
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{{main|AN-M2 (12.7 mm)}} | {{main|AN-M2 (12.7 mm)}} | ||
| − | + | As with the other 80 ft Elco boats, the PT-174 features two pairs of 12.7 mm AN-M2 Browning machine guns in an offset baskets. These guns offers reasonable supplementary firepower against both surface and air targets alike. As the Bofors autocannon will be frequently disabled, these machine guns is also useful as a failsafe weapon to retaliate against the enemy while repairing your main gun. | |
=== Additional armament === | === Additional armament === | ||
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{{main|Mk.13 (569 mm)}} | {{main|Mk.13 (569 mm)}} | ||
| − | + | The PT-174 carries four standard-issued Mk.13 torpedoes. The torpedoes were positioned almost directly forward and thus is easy to aim. While each individual torpedoes is fairly slow with a top speed of 50 km/h and has a small warhead of 173 kg of TNT equivalent. They can be useful as an ambush weapon against slower and larger ship, especially in a saturation barrage. | |
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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| − | + | The PT-174 can be best described as a glass cannon, as its powerful and easy-to-use 40 mm Bofors autocannon is balanced by its poor protection. Unlike the other Elco boats which primarily excels at hit-and-run, however, the PT-174 has more utility compared to its counterparts owning to the frontal-heavy firepower, thus allows the ship to tackle almost any enemy it faces if its capabilities were utilized to its fullest. | |
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| + | Due to a rather mediocre boardsides firepower, exposing the vulnerable sides of the boat to use both the Bofors and Oerlikons are not recommended. Instead, try to minimize your side profile as much as possible and going "bow-in" while engaging. The boat can easily dispatches most boats in a 1-on-1 engagements, though it can be easily overwhelmed by a grop of enemies, situation awereness is a key to know when to engage and when to retreat to avoid overextending. | ||
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| + | While it is tempting to chase the enemy across the open water, sometimes it is better to stick behind some cover and strike at the right moment. The PT-174 offers such an oppotunity, as the boat's great handling characteristic allows you to travel around and precisely stop at the right spot behind some cover. Here is where the frontally-mounted Bofors comes into play, as the boat's positioning can be adjusted easier compared to the rear-mounted counterparts. You can either wait for some unwitting enemy to venture within your firing range or came out at the right moment when your allies made a push to provide a surprise fire support. Against larger or slower vessel, the four torpedoes will comes into handy to bring them down. | ||
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| + | Due to the Bofors's range and accuracy, the PT-174 is also a capable as a fire support. At 2.5 km effective range, the Bofors outranges most of the PT boats withing its BR range, and is capable at dealing significant damage against boats from higher BRs. You can either sit behind some low cover at range, within a pack of friendly boats or the line of sight of a certain choke point, then reposition when a looming threats i.e certain sub-chaser or frigates with high-caliber guns or an incoming attrillery barrage comes. | ||
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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Revision as of 05:54, 14 October 2022
Contents
Description
The Elco 80 ft PT-174 is a premium rank II American motor torpedo boat with a battle rating of 2.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Ground Breaking".
The PT-174 is one of the more distinctive member of the Elco PT boat family. Instead of focusing its firepower at a chasing enemy from the stern, the PT-174's main firepower - a powerful 40 mm Bofors autocannon - is placed at the bow instead. This allows the PT-174 to be played more aggresively than its counterparts. Although it does share the same weak hull of the Elco family, the PT-174 has a great potential when its strength and weakness are well understood, thus allowing it to tackle even the seemingly superior coastal boats at higher ranks.
General info
Survivability and armour
Being one of the numerous 80 ft Elco PT boats, the PT-174's protection is rather poor. The 12.7 mm of the Oerlikon autocannon gun shield and the 6.35 mm of armor around the helmsman being the only protection this wooden-hull boat has to offer. The boat has a crew of 12 men, up to 9 of them can be lost before the boat starts to sink. Due to the boat has only three sections with three crews each, it is particularly vulnerable against shell with high penetration at the front and any autocannons at the sides.
Mobility
As with the other Elco boats, the PT-174 offers great all-around mobility. The boat is easy to handle and has quick acceleration and deceleration. This allows the PT-174 to quickly move and reposition around the map, to find a good spot for taking on an enemy.
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| Upgraded | 106 | 30 | |
| RB/SB | |||
| Upgraded | 76 | 22 | |
Modifications and economy
2 × 90 / 130 / 50 % 2 × 130 / 130 / 130 % | Seakeeping | Unsinkability | Firepower | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Armament
Primary armament
The PT-174 features the 40 mm Bofors L/60 Mark 3 autocannon placed at the bow of the boat. This peculiar placement is unusual compared to the other Elco boats, as they were usually placed at the stern, and this feature cannot be found until the rank V PT-810. Due to this, the PT-174 has a unique offensive capability compared to its brethren. Unlike the other Elco boats that were forced to show its broadsides to utilize their Bofors, the PT-174 is capable of going "bow-in" against the enemy, and offers easy gun handling while reducing the boat's vulnerability to enemy fire in the process.
The Bofors utilize two shells; an AP-T round with high penetration of 58 mm at 1,000 m and 41 mm at 2,000 m, and an HEFI-T shell with a large explosive filler. Due to the boat's fragile hull, the AP-T belt is preferred due to its effectiveness at long range engagements (up to 2.5 km), although an "Universal" belt with a balance mix of AP-T and HEFI-T can also be considered for engaging aircraft.
While having a frontally-mounted Bofors has many benefits, it's not without downsides. The gun lacks any shield to protect it and its gunner from any enemy fire, exposing it to any incoming shots and made it rather easy to get disabled and leaving the boat vulnerable. The PT-174 is also a rather unstable gun platform at high speed, which significantly hampers the gun handling, especially in rough sea conditions. This can be partially remedied by slowing the boat down to around 60-70 km.
Secondary armament
The PT-174 features a single 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II autocannon at the stern as a secondary armament. While not as impressive as the Bofors at the bow, the Oerlikon offers good damage output within the 2 km range. Due to the vulnerable boardsides of the boat, however, the Oerlikon is best reserved from countering flankers and inbound aircrafts.
Anti-aircraft armament
As with the other 80 ft Elco boats, the PT-174 features two pairs of 12.7 mm AN-M2 Browning machine guns in an offset baskets. These guns offers reasonable supplementary firepower against both surface and air targets alike. As the Bofors autocannon will be frequently disabled, these machine guns is also useful as a failsafe weapon to retaliate against the enemy while repairing your main gun.
Additional armament
The PT-174 carries four standard-issued Mk.13 torpedoes. The torpedoes were positioned almost directly forward and thus is easy to aim. While each individual torpedoes is fairly slow with a top speed of 50 km/h and has a small warhead of 173 kg of TNT equivalent. They can be useful as an ambush weapon against slower and larger ship, especially in a saturation barrage.
Usage in battles
The PT-174 can be best described as a glass cannon, as its powerful and easy-to-use 40 mm Bofors autocannon is balanced by its poor protection. Unlike the other Elco boats which primarily excels at hit-and-run, however, the PT-174 has more utility compared to its counterparts owning to the frontal-heavy firepower, thus allows the ship to tackle almost any enemy it faces if its capabilities were utilized to its fullest.
Due to a rather mediocre boardsides firepower, exposing the vulnerable sides of the boat to use both the Bofors and Oerlikons are not recommended. Instead, try to minimize your side profile as much as possible and going "bow-in" while engaging. The boat can easily dispatches most boats in a 1-on-1 engagements, though it can be easily overwhelmed by a grop of enemies, situation awereness is a key to know when to engage and when to retreat to avoid overextending.
While it is tempting to chase the enemy across the open water, sometimes it is better to stick behind some cover and strike at the right moment. The PT-174 offers such an oppotunity, as the boat's great handling characteristic allows you to travel around and precisely stop at the right spot behind some cover. Here is where the frontally-mounted Bofors comes into play, as the boat's positioning can be adjusted easier compared to the rear-mounted counterparts. You can either wait for some unwitting enemy to venture within your firing range or came out at the right moment when your allies made a push to provide a surprise fire support. Against larger or slower vessel, the four torpedoes will comes into handy to bring them down.
Due to the Bofors's range and accuracy, the PT-174 is also a capable as a fire support. At 2.5 km effective range, the Bofors outranges most of the PT boats withing its BR range, and is capable at dealing significant damage against boats from higher BRs. You can either sit behind some low cover at range, within a pack of friendly boats or the line of sight of a certain choke point, then reposition when a looming threats i.e certain sub-chaser or frigates with high-caliber guns or an incoming attrillery barrage comes.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Features a frontally-mounted Bofors autocannon with wide coverage
- Rapid-firing and accurate Bofors autocannon offers great damage output, especially at longer ranges (~ 2.5 km)
- High mobility and manoverability, easy to move and reposition around
- Four Browning MGs and Oeklikon autocannons provides good anti-air coverage
- Has four torpedoes for saturated barrage
Cons:
- Very poor survivability, especially from the sides
- The lack of gun shield makes the Bofors autocannon quite easy to disable
- Tends to bounce in sea condition, especially at high speed, thus making lining up shot difficult
- Individual torpedoes are fairy slow and weak, limiting its use to close-range engagements
History
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Media
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See also
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External links
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| Electric Launch Company (Elco) Ships | |
|---|---|
| Patrol Torpedo Boats (PT) | |
| 77' PT | PT-20 · PT-59 |
| 80' PT | PT-103 · PT-109 · PT-174 · PT-314 · Thunderbolt (PT-556) · PT-565 |
| USA boats | |
|---|---|
| Motor torpedo boats | PT-3 · PT-6 · PT-20 · PT-71 · PT-103 · PT-109 · PT-174 |
| PT-200 · PT-314 · Thunderbolt (PT-556) · PT-565 · PT-658 · PT-810 · PT-811 · PT-812 | |
| Motor gun boats | Kim Qui · LCS(L)(3) · PT-59 · PTF-7 · USS Candid · USS Asheville · USS Douglas · USS Tucumcari · USS Cyclone |
| Armoured gun boats | LCM(6) Zippo |
| USA premium ships | |
|---|---|
| Motor torpedo boats | PT-3 · PT-109 · PT-174 · Thunderbolt (PT-556) · PT-658 · PT-811 |
| Motor gun boats | LCM(6) Zippo · USS Douglas |
| Sub-chasers | Carmi (PC-466) |
| Destroyers | USS Welborn C. Wood · USS Wilkinson · USS Bennion · USS Cowell · USS Davis · USS Moffett · USS Phelps · USS Frank Knox |
| Light cruisers | USS Detroit · USS Helena |
| Heavy cruisers | USS Des Moines |
| Battleships | USS Arkansas |
