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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
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The '''{{specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{specs|rank}} French self-propelled anti-aircraft gun {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. With its four 13.2 mm Hotchkiss Mle.1930 machine guns, it poses a certain threat to enemy aircrafts while featuring poor mobility (off-road) and armour.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicle {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. With its four 13.2 mm Hotchkiss Mle 1930 machine guns, it poses a certain threat to enemy aircraft while featuring poor mobility (off-road) and armour.
  
The P.7.T AA is a very classic interwar anti-air defense system with its guns mounted on a mobile but vulnerable chassis.
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The P.7.T AA is a very classic interwar anti-air defence system with its guns mounted on a mobile but vulnerable chassis.
  
 
With only 3 exposed crew members, anything can damage, disable or destroy this vehicle. Its armour does not provide enough cover to the crew from any angle. Even .30 cals guns can easily destroy this vehicle, so be sure to stay out of sight from enemies.
 
With only 3 exposed crew members, anything can damage, disable or destroy this vehicle. Its armour does not provide enough cover to the crew from any angle. Even .30 cals guns can easily destroy this vehicle, so be sure to stay out of sight from enemies.
  
The half-track configuration usually provides increased off-road mobility to wheeled vehicles while enabling to carry more weight over the tracked section, a rule to which the P.7.T AA is no exception: It ''can'' reliably move itself across any rough terrain. The only downside to this vehicle is its low HP, which makes hill climbing quite slow. This little engine also struggles to bring this much weight to its max speed: One should go downhill ''and'' hit the gas in order to reach 40 km/h. Turning on the spot is also a no-go since tracks do not provide enough traction to the ground: Hit the forward key and gain some speed ''before'' attempting any manoeuvre. Be patient and choose your path wisely and you should reach your destination soon enough.
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The half-track configuration usually provides increased off-road mobility to wheeled vehicles while enabling to carry more weight over the tracked section, a rule to which the P.7.T AA is no exception: It ''can'' reliably move itself across any rough terrain. The only downside to this vehicle is its low HP, which makes hill climbing quite slow. This little engine also struggles to bring this much weight to its max speed: One should go downhill ''and'' hit the gas in order to reach 40 km/h. Turning on the spot is also a no-go since the tracks do not provide enough traction to the ground: Hit the forward key and gain some speed ''before'' attempting any manoeuvre. Be patient and choose your path wisely and you should reach your destination soon enough.
  
With its four HMGs, this SPAA is quite reminiscent of the [[GAZ-AAA (4M)]] while having much more firepower. Since these weapons fire simultaneously, one hit usually means four holes in your opponent's hull, a heavy toll to the early planes (and biplanes) you should be shooting at this BR.
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With its four HMGs, this SPAA is quite reminiscent of the [[GAZ-AAA (4M)]] while having much more firepower. Since these weapons fire simultaneously, one hit usually means four holes in your opponent, a heavy toll to the early planes (and biplanes) you will be shooting at this BR.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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!Armour
 
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!Armour Type!!Thickness
- Structural Steel Hull
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|Chassis
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|Structural Steel||3 mm
 
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!Armour!!Front (Slope angle)!!Sides!!Rear!!Roof
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|Gun Platform
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|Wood
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|10 mm
 
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|Tractor Chassis||3 mm||3 mm||3 mm||3 mm
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|Gun Mounting
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|Structural Steel
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|20-30 mm
 
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The P.7.T AA has practically no armour. Every crewmember sits mostly exposed to enemy fire, so even a machine gun can quickly kill 2 of the total 3 crewmembers. This means that the P.7.T AA should never be expected to sustain any enemy fire, as it will likely die to anything. The only spots that might stop a rifle caliber round on the whole vehicle are the engine block or turret housing, but these do not fully conceal the crew.
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The P.7.T AA has practically no armour. Every crew member sits exposed to enemy fire, so even a light machine gun can knock out the entire crew in a matter of seconds. This means that the P.7.T AA should never be expected to sustain any enemy fire, including artillery barrages, strafing attacks from aircraft, and of course enemy ground fire. The only parts of the vehicle that might stop a rifle-calibre round are the engine block and gun housing, but still expect for the vehicle to be destroyed by any sort of incoming fire.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
 
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 28|rbMinHp= 18}}
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The mobility is above average and smooth overall, while no terrain poses a challenge due to the half-track system. Due to the relatively high potential speed, the {{PAGENAME}} can quickly get into an advantageous position on the map to shoot down planes. Just be sure to keep an eye out for flanking light tanks or fast medium tanks such as the Panzer III and IV, as anything can annihilate you with mere MG fire.
 
The mobility is above average and smooth overall, while no terrain poses a challenge due to the half-track system. Due to the relatively high potential speed, the {{PAGENAME}} can quickly get into an advantageous position on the map to shoot down planes. Just be sure to keep an eye out for flanking light tanks or fast medium tanks such as the Panzer III and IV, as anything can annihilate you with mere MG fire.
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
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{{main|Hotchkiss Mle 1930 (13.2 mm)}}
 
{{main|Hotchkiss Mle 1930 (13.2 mm)}}
  
The quad 13.2 mm Hotchkiss HMG's are fantastic at shredding planes and start fires very easily due to the belts containing pure API rounds. With their above-average fire rate, high damage, good accuracy and decent reload speed, they are an AA jockey's dream. It is worth noting that they have a limited magazine capacity, only 30 rounds per gun, but this is more-or-less remedied by the fact that there are 4 guns, allowing for 120 rounds total.  
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The quad 13.2 mm Hotchkiss HMG's are fantastic at shredding planes and start fires very easily due to the belts containing pure API rounds. With their above-average fire rate, high damage, good accuracy and decent reload speed, they are an AA jockey's dream. It is worth noting that they have a limited magazine capacity, only 30 rounds per gun, but this is more-or-less remedied by the fact that there are 4 guns, allowing for 120 rounds total.
  
 
However, due to the P.7's low BR, they can be decent at destroying reserve and 1.3 tanks from the sides and rear. It is not recommended to use it in this fashion, as you leave yourself as an easy target for anything with guns.
 
However, due to the P.7's low BR, they can be decent at destroying reserve and 1.3 tanks from the sides and rear. It is not recommended to use it in this fashion, as you leave yourself as an easy target for anything with guns.
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="6" | [[Hotchkiss Mle 1930 (13.2 mm)|13.2 mm Hotchkiss Mle 1930]] (x4)
 
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! colspan="2" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
 
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
 
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| colspan="2" | 1,440 (30) || 450 || -10°/+45° || ±180° || N/A
 
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! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
 
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! style="width:4em" |Mode
 
! style="width:4em" |Stock
 
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
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| ''Arcade'' || 52.84 || 73.13 || 88.80 || 98.20 || 104.47
 
 
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| ''Realistic'' || 35.7 || 42.0 || 51.0 || 56.4 || 60.0
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! colspan="6" | [[Hotchkiss Mle 1930 (13.2 mm)|13.2 mm Hotchkiss Mle 1930]] (x4) || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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! Mode !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
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| rowspan="2" | 1,440 (30) || rowspan="2" | 450 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+45° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 52.84 || 73.13 || 88.80 || 98.20 || 104.47 || rowspan="2" | 7.80 || rowspan="2" | 6.90 || rowspan="2" | 6.36 || rowspan="2" | 6.00
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
 
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
 
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| 7.80 || 6.90 || 6.36 || 6.00
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! ''Realistic''
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| 35.70 || 42.00 || 51.00 || 56.40 || 60.00
 
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|}
 
|}
  
=== Ammunition ===
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==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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* '''AP-T:''' {{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|API-T|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer}}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
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|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Belt
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
 
 
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! 10m
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
! 100m
 
! 500m
 
! 1000m
 
! 1500m
 
 
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| Universal || AP-I,API-T || 24 || 23 || 14 || 10 || 7
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| AP-T || 24 || 23 || 14 || 10 || 7 || 4
 
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|}
 
|}
  
=== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] ===
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==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|Ammo racks of the {{specs|pseudonym}}.]]
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[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]
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|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br /> ammo
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! Full<br>ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br /> rack empty
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! 1st<br>rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br /> rack empty
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! 2nd<br>rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br /> rack empty
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! 3rd<br>rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
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! Visual<br>discrepancy
 
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|| '''48''' || 44&nbsp;''(+4)'' || 28&nbsp;''(+20)'' || 4&nbsp;''(+44)'' || style="text-align:left" | no
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| '''48''' || 44&nbsp;''(+4)'' || 28&nbsp;''(+20)'' || 4&nbsp;''(+44)'' || No
 
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|}
 
|}
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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This SPAA's gameplay should be familiar to Soviet rank 1-2 AA veterans: Multiple guns on a truck platform with limited frontal elevation angles. Such a fragile half-track vehicle should be held away from the frontlines and stick to its spawn.
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'''Overview:'''
  
;SPAA
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The P.7.T AA has a total lack of armour, so the best strategy is to stay away from enemy ground vehicles and focus on planes. However, the guns do have some penetration, so targeting enemy ground vehicles is a possibility. The limited mobility and lack of armour make fighting enemy ground vehicles very difficult for the P.7.T AA.
  
*Playing this as an SPAA is the surest way to score. Do not choose this vehicle early game since there are very little planes to shoot at: The P.7.T AA is a second-pick. Do not engage aircraft from too far away since it will only lower your limited ammo reserve while making yourself vulnerable in the event that a plane chooses to strafe you: you do not want to reload while a plane is coming. Another thing to keep in mind is that your gun elevation is limited. Find yourself a steep hill and park on its side in order to elevate your guns at a decent angle. This gun platform's turning rate does not allow for immediate reactions, so always pre-aim your guns to the nearest threat.
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'''Tips:'''
  
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Playing the P.7.T by focusing on air targets is the most viable strategy. Do not spawn this vehicle early game since there will be few planes to shoot at. Do not engage aircraft too early, as you will only expose yourself. Begin firing at less than 1 km range for the best effect. Always watch out for multiple aircraft, as if they strafe you, you will almost certainly die. The guns are surprisingly potent, and will quickly dispatch most air targets after a few hits, although some heavy fighters and bombers may prove challenging to destroy. When engaging enemy tanks, you can reverse from behind a building to only expose the gunner to enemy fire.
 
 
*In urban environments and low BR games (when you are facing reserve tanks), it could be a good idea to slip this slim vehicle into a tight alley (engine deck first) near a capture point and wait for an enemy to pass by. Whenever a light enough target falls into your sights, immobilize it by shooting at the engine deck first and ''then'' snipe the crew. This tactic is a very dangerous one, more of a last resort than an actual way to score with this AA. It is best used in conjunction with the allied effort: your fire may drag attention from them, turning your enemy's attention from your more potent allies. This tactic is well-suited for RB matches. Avoid artillery at all cost.
 
 
 
Another version of this tactic is to leave only the gunner exposed by popping him out (with its guns) from the corner of a building.
 
 
 
With its good penetration rates (for an AA) and fast rate of fire, this SPAA can be quite useful to shred light preys.
 
  
 
=== Modules ===
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
* Four 13.2 mm machine guns, able to destroy weakly armoured foes like [[Ha-Go (Family)|Ha-Go]], [[AS 42]] or [[T-26]], and aircraft like the [[He 51 (Family)|He 51]].
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* Four 13.2 mm machine guns, able to destroy weakly armoured foes like the [[Ha-Go (Family)|Ha-Go]], [[AS 42]] or [[T-26]], and aircraft like the [[He 51 (Family)|He 51]]
* AP-I/API-T belt as default means it has anti-tank potential even when stock.
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* AP-I/API-T belt as default means it has anti-tank potential even when stock
 
* Excellent at actually being an SPAA. A high rate of fire and powerful rounds will shred planes at the rank
 
* Excellent at actually being an SPAA. A high rate of fire and powerful rounds will shred planes at the rank
 
* Good at suppressing enemy vehicles
 
* Good at suppressing enemy vehicles
 
* Light: easy to tow from enemy fire when immobilised
 
* Light: easy to tow from enemy fire when immobilised
* Can damage some tanks from their weaker sides, like [[LVT(A)(1)|LVT(A)]] series, [[Pz.IV C]] or [[Pz.II (Disambiguation)|Pz.II]]
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* Can damage some tanks from their weaker sides, like the [[LVT (Family)|LVT(A)]] series, [[Pz.IV C]] or [[Pz.II (Disambiguation)|Pz.II]]
* Does not lose too much speed when turning due to the half-track configuration  
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* Does not lose too much speed when turning due to the half-track configuration
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Very low survivability. Crew is exposed, extremely vulnerable to anything especially enemy MG, nearby artillery, bombs and rockets and HE shrapnels. Almost no armour, even 7.62mm MG can damage critical parts like engine or transmission.
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* Very low survivability - the crew is exposed, extremely vulnerable to anything especially enemy MG, nearby artillery, bombs and rockets and HE shrapnels, even 7.62 mm MGs can damage critical parts like the engine or transmission
* Has difficulty penetrating most enemy tanks frontally, for example [[Pz.II (Disambiguation)|Pz.II]], [[B1 bis]]
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* Has difficulty penetrating most enemy tanks frontally, for example Pz.II, [[B1 bis]]
 
* Reload time is rather long, stopping it from firing back in critical times
 
* Reload time is rather long, stopping it from firing back in critical times
* Poor off-road mobility and climbing ability makes it slow on hills  
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* Poor off-road mobility and climbing ability makes it slow on hills
 
* The four canons fire synchronously, which reduces the chances to hit an aircraft
 
* The four canons fire synchronously, which reduces the chances to hit an aircraft
* Gun platform turning and elevation rate are a bit slow (slow reaction, hard to follow close / fast targets)
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* Gun platform turning and elevation rate are a bit slow (slow reaction, hard to follow close/fast targets)
* Limited elevation of 45° limits its effectiveness against targets directly above it, for example dive bombers like [[Ju 87 B-2|Ju 87 B2]]. Also it cannot fire in a ~90° arc in front of itself. In a sudden encounter it cannot fight back in time
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* Limited elevation of 45° limits its effectiveness against targets directly above it, for example dive bombers like [[Ju 87 B-2|Ju 87 B2]]* Driver blocks the gun in a frontal ~90° arc, may not be able to swing the hull around in time to combat sudden encounters
  
 
== History ==
 
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The first half-tracks were built by Frenchman Adolphe Kegresse for Russia in 1910-11. After the First World War Kegresse returned to France to work with Citroen to produce half-tracks for the French Army starting in the 1920s. By 1940, these unarmoured Kegresse-Citroen half-tracks (the P.17, P.19, P.107, and MCG variants) were used primarily for towing artillery, although a small number of closed-top half-track armoured cars (the P.16) were also in service. The P.7.T had been an earlier Kegresse model, built between 1925 and 1927. The French, who had created the first self-propelled anti-aircraft gun-truck back in 1913, would continue through the interwar period experimenting with various truck-mounted AA weapons like those shown in this model.
 
The first half-tracks were built by Frenchman Adolphe Kegresse for Russia in 1910-11. After the First World War Kegresse returned to France to work with Citroen to produce half-tracks for the French Army starting in the 1920s. By 1940, these unarmoured Kegresse-Citroen half-tracks (the P.17, P.19, P.107, and MCG variants) were used primarily for towing artillery, although a small number of closed-top half-track armoured cars (the P.16) were also in service. The P.7.T had been an earlier Kegresse model, built between 1925 and 1927. The French, who had created the first self-propelled anti-aircraft gun-truck back in 1913, would continue through the interwar period experimenting with various truck-mounted AA weapons like those shown in this model.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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{{Youtube-gallery|PF2AVtHfWao|'''The Shooting Range #141''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:39 discusses the P.7.T AA.}}
 
{{Youtube-gallery|PF2AVtHfWao|'''The Shooting Range #141''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:39 discusses the P.7.T AA.}}
  

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P.7.T AA
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Description

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The Citroen Kegresse P.7.T is a rank I French self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicle with a battle rating of 1.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". With its four 13.2 mm Hotchkiss Mle 1930 machine guns, it poses a certain threat to enemy aircraft while featuring poor mobility (off-road) and armour.

The P.7.T AA is a very classic interwar anti-air defence system with its guns mounted on a mobile but vulnerable chassis.

With only 3 exposed crew members, anything can damage, disable or destroy this vehicle. Its armour does not provide enough cover to the crew from any angle. Even .30 cals guns can easily destroy this vehicle, so be sure to stay out of sight from enemies.

The half-track configuration usually provides increased off-road mobility to wheeled vehicles while enabling to carry more weight over the tracked section, a rule to which the P.7.T AA is no exception: It can reliably move itself across any rough terrain. The only downside to this vehicle is its low HP, which makes hill climbing quite slow. This little engine also struggles to bring this much weight to its max speed: One should go downhill and hit the gas in order to reach 40 km/h. Turning on the spot is also a no-go since the tracks do not provide enough traction to the ground: Hit the forward key and gain some speed before attempting any manoeuvre. Be patient and choose your path wisely and you should reach your destination soon enough.

With its four HMGs, this SPAA is quite reminiscent of the GAZ-AAA (4M) while having much more firepower. Since these weapons fire simultaneously, one hit usually means four holes in your opponent, a heavy toll to the early planes (and biplanes) you will be shooting at this BR.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour Armour Type Thickness
Chassis Structural Steel 3 mm
Gun Platform Wood 10 mm
Gun Mounting Structural Steel 20-30 mm

The P.7.T AA has practically no armour. Every crew member sits exposed to enemy fire, so even a light machine gun can knock out the entire crew in a matter of seconds. This means that the P.7.T AA should never be expected to sustain any enemy fire, including artillery barrages, strafing attacks from aircraft, and of course enemy ground fire. The only parts of the vehicle that might stop a rifle-calibre round are the engine block and gun housing, but still expect for the vehicle to be destroyed by any sort of incoming fire.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 44 8 2.2 28 38 12.73 17.27
Realistic 41 8 18 20 8.18 9.09

The mobility is above average and smooth overall, while no terrain poses a challenge due to the half-track system. Due to the relatively high potential speed, the P.7.T AA can quickly get into an advantageous position on the map to shoot down planes. Just be sure to keep an eye out for flanking light tanks or fast medium tanks such as the Panzer III and IV, as anything can annihilate you with mere MG fire.

Armaments

Main armament

The quad 13.2 mm Hotchkiss HMG's are fantastic at shredding planes and start fires very easily due to the belts containing pure API rounds. With their above-average fire rate, high damage, good accuracy and decent reload speed, they are an AA jockey's dream. It is worth noting that they have a limited magazine capacity, only 30 rounds per gun, but this is more-or-less remedied by the fact that there are 4 guns, allowing for 120 rounds total.

However, due to the P.7's low BR, they can be decent at destroying reserve and 1.3 tanks from the sides and rear. It is not recommended to use it in this fashion, as you leave yourself as an easy target for anything with guns.

13.2 mm Hotchkiss Mle 1930 (x4) Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 1,440 (30) 450 -10°/+45° ±180° N/A 52.84 73.13 88.80 98.20 104.47 7.80 6.90 6.36 6.00
Realistic 35.70 42.00 51.00 56.40 60.00

Ammunition

  • AP-T: AP-I · API-T
Penetration statistics
Belt Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
AP-T 24 23 14 10 7 4

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the P.7.T AA
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
48 44 (+4) 28 (+20) (+44) No

Usage in battles

Overview:

The P.7.T AA has a total lack of armour, so the best strategy is to stay away from enemy ground vehicles and focus on planes. However, the guns do have some penetration, so targeting enemy ground vehicles is a possibility. The limited mobility and lack of armour make fighting enemy ground vehicles very difficult for the P.7.T AA.

Tips:

Playing the P.7.T by focusing on air targets is the most viable strategy. Do not spawn this vehicle early game since there will be few planes to shoot at. Do not engage aircraft too early, as you will only expose yourself. Begin firing at less than 1 km range for the best effect. Always watch out for multiple aircraft, as if they strafe you, you will almost certainly die. The guns are surprisingly potent, and will quickly dispatch most air targets after a few hits, although some heavy fighters and bombers may prove challenging to destroy. When engaging enemy tanks, you can reverse from behind a building to only expose the gunner to enemy fire.

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Horizontal Drive
II Suspension Brake System FPE Adjustment of Fire
III Filters Crew Replenishment Elevation Mechanism
IV Transmission Engine Artillery Support

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Four 13.2 mm machine guns, able to destroy weakly armoured foes like the Ha-Go, AS 42 or T-26, and aircraft like the He 51
  • AP-I/API-T belt as default means it has anti-tank potential even when stock
  • Excellent at actually being an SPAA. A high rate of fire and powerful rounds will shred planes at the rank
  • Good at suppressing enemy vehicles
  • Light: easy to tow from enemy fire when immobilised
  • Can damage some tanks from their weaker sides, like the LVT(A) series, Pz.IV C or Pz.II
  • Does not lose too much speed when turning due to the half-track configuration

Cons:

  • Very low survivability - the crew is exposed, extremely vulnerable to anything especially enemy MG, nearby artillery, bombs and rockets and HE shrapnels, even 7.62 mm MGs can damage critical parts like the engine or transmission
  • Has difficulty penetrating most enemy tanks frontally, for example Pz.II, B1 bis
  • Reload time is rather long, stopping it from firing back in critical times
  • Poor off-road mobility and climbing ability makes it slow on hills
  • The four canons fire synchronously, which reduces the chances to hit an aircraft
  • Gun platform turning and elevation rate are a bit slow (slow reaction, hard to follow close/fast targets)
  • Limited elevation of 45° limits its effectiveness against targets directly above it, for example dive bombers like Ju 87 B2* Driver blocks the gun in a frontal ~90° arc, may not be able to swing the hull around in time to combat sudden encounters

History

The first half-tracks were built by Frenchman Adolphe Kegresse for Russia in 1910-11. After the First World War Kegresse returned to France to work with Citroen to produce half-tracks for the French Army starting in the 1920s. By 1940, these unarmoured Kegresse-Citroen half-tracks (the P.17, P.19, P.107, and MCG variants) were used primarily for towing artillery, although a small number of closed-top half-track armoured cars (the P.16) were also in service. The P.7.T had been an earlier Kegresse model, built between 1925 and 1927. The French, who had created the first self-propelled anti-aircraft gun-truck back in 1913, would continue through the interwar period experimenting with various truck-mounted AA weapons like those shown in this model.

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France anti-aircraft vehicles
Wheeled/Half-tracked  P.7.T AA · CCKW 353 AA · TPK 6.41
AMX-13 Derivatives  VTT DCA · AMX-13 DCA 40
Radar SPAAG  AMX-30 DCA
Missile SPAA  SANTAL · Roland 1 · ▄ItO 90M
Other  AMX-10P