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{{Specs-Card|code=p_108b_serie1}}
 
{{Specs-Card|code=p_108b_serie1}}
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{{About
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| about = Italian bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
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| other
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| usage-1 = the attacker
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| link-1 = P.108A serie 2
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| usage-2 = the other bomber variant
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| link-2 = P.108B serie 2
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}}
  
 
== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]].
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The P.108B Serie 1 is a heavy bomber with a heavy bomb load and relatively weak defensive armament. When delivering the bombs to the targets, high altitudes are a must. The preferred targets of this bomber are stationary objects like pillboxes or slow moving vehicles such as ships (if you can time it well) and of course the bombing targets and airfields. Should an enemy fighter catch up with you, it is certain doom as your defensive guns have a low chance to kill it. To survive attacks, use your gunners to ward off the enemy aircraft until help comes. Stay away from combat as much as you can and do your job as a bomber.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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=== Flight Performance ===
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=== Flight performance ===
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, maneuverability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="8" | Characteristics
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|-
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 3,900 m)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
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|-
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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|-
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| 401 || 388 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 37.3 || 38.7 || 2.5 || 2.4 || 750
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|-
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 3,900 m)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
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|-
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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|-
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| 438 || 419 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 34.8 || 36.0 || 6.5 || 4.3 || 750
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|-
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|}
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==== Details ====
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | Features
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|-
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! Combat flaps
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! Take-off flaps
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! Landing flaps
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! Air brakes
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! Arrestor gear
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|-
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | Limits
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|-
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flaps<br>(km/h)
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! colspan="2" | Max Static G
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|-
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! +
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! -
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|-
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| {{Specs|destruction|constructions}} || {{Specs|destruction|chassis}} || 400 || ~3 || ~2
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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|-
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
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|-
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| < 330 || < 310 || < 270 || > 250
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Setting 1
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| 3,500 m || 1,350 hp || 1,499 hp
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|-
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|}
  
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* 8 mm Steel - Cockpit armour - instrument panel, pilot's seat, co-pilot's seat and floor plate below pilot
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* 8 mm Steel - Armour plate protecting ammo located in wings
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* 8 mm Steel - Side gunner armoured walls
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* 8 mm Steel - Ventral gunner position
  
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== Weaponry ==
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== Armaments ==
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=== Offensive weaponry ===
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=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|GP 50 (50 kg)|GP 100 (100 kg)|GP 250 (250 kg)|GP 500 (500 kg)|F200/450}}
  
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=== Suspended weaponry ===
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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''Describe the aircraft's suspended weapons: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''
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* 34 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (1,700 kg total)
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* 34 x 100 kg GP 100 bombs (3,400 kg total)
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* 2 x F200/450 torpedoes
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* 3 x F200/450 torpedoes
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* 7 x 250 kg GP 250 bombs (1,750 kg total)
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* 7 x 500 kg GP 500 bombs (3,500 kg total)
  
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=== Defensive weaponry ===
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=== Defensive armament ===
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''Defensive weaponry with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available remove this subsection.''
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{{main|Breda-SAFAT (12.7 mm)|Breda-SAFAT (7.7 mm)}}
  
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== Usage in the battles ==
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:
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* 1 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, nose turret (300 rpg)
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* 2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, 2 x wing turrets (300 rpg = 600 total)
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* 1 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, ventral turret (450 rpg)
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* 1 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, 2 x beam turrets (400 rpg)
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== Usage in battles ==
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''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
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=== Manual Engine Control ===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="7" | MEC elements
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|-
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! rowspan="2" | Mixer
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! rowspan="2" | Pitch
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! colspan="3" | Radiator
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! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
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! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
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|-
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! Oil
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! Water
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! Type
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|-
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| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Auto control available || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br>1 gear || rowspan="2" | Auto controlled
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|-
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|}
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=== Modules ===
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{| class="wikitable"
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! colspan="1" | Tier
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! colspan="2" | Flight performance
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! colspan="1" | Survivability
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! colspan="2" | Weaponry
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|-
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| I
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| Fuselage repair
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| Radiator
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|
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| Turret 7 mm
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| MCSAP100
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|-
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| II
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|
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| Compressor
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| Airframe
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| New 7 mm MGs (turret)
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| TBC-79
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|-
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| III
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| Wings repair
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| Engine
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|
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| Turret 12 mm
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| MCGP250
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|-
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| IV
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|
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| Engine injection
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| Cover
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| New 12 mm MGs (turret)
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| MCRO500
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|-
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|}
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* 2 turrets are placed on the distant engines allowing for more guns to face backward
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* Heavy payload available
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* One of two planes (the other being the [[P.108B serie 2]]) in the game that can carry three torpedoes
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Gunners are bunched together and easily knocked out
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* Turrets on the engines cannot face forwards
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* Poor manoeuvrability and climb rate
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* Prone to fuel tank fire due to tremendous fuel load
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* Massive size
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* Relatively weak defensive firepower
  
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== History ==
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== Media ==
 
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== See also ==
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{{Italy bombers}}

Revision as of 18:17, 29 June 2019

Rank VI USSR | Premium | Golden Eagles
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P.108B serie 1
p_108b_serie1.png
P.108B serie 1
Italy flag.png Italy
III Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
3.7 3.3 3.3
Class:
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This page is about the Italian bomber P.108B serie 1. For the attacker, see P.108A serie 2. For the other bomber variant, see P.108B serie 2.

Description

GarageImage P.108B serie 1.jpg


The P.108B serie 1 is a rank III Italian bomber with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB) and 3.3 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica".

The P.108B Serie 1 is a heavy bomber with a heavy bomb load and relatively weak defensive armament. When delivering the bombs to the targets, high altitudes are a must. The preferred targets of this bomber are stationary objects like pillboxes or slow moving vehicles such as ships (if you can time it well) and of course the bombing targets and airfields. Should an enemy fighter catch up with you, it is certain doom as your defensive guns have a low chance to kill it. To survive attacks, use your gunners to ward off the enemy aircraft until help comes. Stay away from combat as much as you can and do your job as a bomber.

General info

Flight performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 3,900 m) 		Max altitude
(meters) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
401 388 9000 37.3 38.7 2.5 2.4 750
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 3,900 m) 		Max altitude
(meters) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
438 419 9000 34.8 36.0 6.5 4.3 750

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
✓ ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h) 		Gear limit
(km/h) 		Combat flaps
(km/h) 		Max Static G
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400 ~3 ~2
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h) 		Rudder
(km/h) 		Elevators
(km/h) 		Radiator
(km/h)
< 330 < 310 < 270 > 250
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
3,500 m 1,350 hp 1,499 hp

Survivability and armour

  • 8 mm Steel - Cockpit armour - instrument panel, pilot's seat, co-pilot's seat and floor plate below pilot
  • 8 mm Steel - Armour plate protecting ammo located in wings
  • 8 mm Steel - Side gunner armoured walls
  • 8 mm Steel - Ventral gunner position

Armaments

Suspended armament

Main articles: GP 50 (50 kg), GP 100 (100 kg), GP 250 (250 kg), GP 500 (500 kg), F200/450

The P.108B serie 1 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • 34 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (1,700 kg total)
  • 34 x 100 kg GP 100 bombs (3,400 kg total)
  • 2 x F200/450 torpedoes
  • 3 x F200/450 torpedoes
  • 7 x 250 kg GP 250 bombs (1,750 kg total)
  • 7 x 500 kg GP 500 bombs (3,500 kg total)

Defensive armament

Main articles: Breda-SAFAT (12.7 mm), Breda-SAFAT (7.7 mm)

The P.108B serie 1 is defended by:

  • 1 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, nose turret (300 rpg)
  • 2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, 2 x wing turrets (300 rpg = 600 total)
  • 1 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, ventral turret (450 rpg)
  • 1 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, 2 x beam turrets (400 rpg)

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Auto control available 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Separate Not controllable
1 gear 		Auto controlled

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Radiator Turret 7 mm MCSAP100
II Compressor Airframe New 7 mm MGs (turret) TBC-79
III Wings repair Engine Turret 12 mm MCGP250
IV Engine injection Cover New 12 mm MGs (turret) MCRO500

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • 2 turrets are placed on the distant engines allowing for more guns to face backward
  • Heavy payload available
  • One of two planes (the other being the P.108B serie 2) in the game that can carry three torpedoes

Cons:

  • Gunners are bunched together and easily knocked out
  • Turrets on the engines cannot face forwards
  • Poor manoeuvrability and climb rate
  • Prone to fuel tank fire due to tremendous fuel load
  • Massive size
  • Relatively weak defensive firepower

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
  • other literature.


Italy bombers
Fiat  B.R.20DR · B.R.20M M1
Savoia-Marchetti  S.81 · S.M.79 serie 1 · S.M.79 B · S.M.79 serie 8 · S.M.79 AS · S.M.79 bis/T.M
CANT  Z.1007 bis serie 3 · Z.1007 bis serie 5
Piaggio  P.108B serie 1 · P.108B serie 2
  Foreign:
Germany  ▄Ju 87 R-2 · ▄Ju 87 D-3
Hungary  ◔Tu-2S-59

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