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The most effective way of using the Mirage F1C in Air Realistic battles is to play a support role. Try to stay behind your team and target slow and distracted enemies. Considering the poor top speed and manoeuvrability of the Mirage F1C, it doesn't stand much chance in duels against most enemies, even against uptiered fighters.
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The most effective way of using the Mirage F1C in Air Realistic battles is to play a support role. Try to stay behind your team and target slow and distracted enemies using the powerful air-to-air missiles. Considering the poor top speed and manoeuvrability of the Mirage F1C, it doesn't stand much chance in duels against most enemies, even against uptiered fighters.
  
Update: This plane has seen some minor buff to it's performance, but it still lacks aoa and agility - it's best played with teammates or in a supporting role using the powerful magic 2s to swiftly take out preoccupied or unaware opponents. 
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The F1C also makes a surprisingly good strike aircraft due to its ability to carry larger bombs compared to its ground-striking peers such as the Mirage 5F or even the Jaguar.
 
 
The F1c also makes a surprisingly good strike aircraft due to it's ability to carry larger bombs compared to it's other ground striker peers such as the Mirage 5F or even the Jaguar.
 
  
 
'''Enemies worth noting:'''
 
'''Enemies worth noting:'''
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* Availability of Matra Super 530F and R550 Magic 2 air-to-air missiles
 
* Availability of Matra Super 530F and R550 Magic 2 air-to-air missiles
* The Cyrano-IV allows low altitude Pulse-Doppler (MTI) and ACM, an upgrade from the previous Mirage (IIIE & IIIC)
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* The Cyrano-IV allows low altitude Pulse-Doppler (MTI) and ACM, an upgrade from the previous Mirages (IIIE & IIIC)
 
* 120 countermeasures
 
* 120 countermeasures
* Decent high speed acceleration when you get it going
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* Decent acceleration at higher speeds
* Very good looking plane :)
 
* Magic 2 missiles pull nicely and have all aspect combability better than that of the Aim 9 L
 
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Very slow acceleration with full loadout
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* Very slow acceleration with ordnance
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* Poor manoeuvrability at low and high speeds with only "workable" agility at mid speeds
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* Low wing-rip speed compared to other aircraft at the rank
 
* The Matra Super 530F missiles are very heavy and strongly impact flight performance
 
* The Matra Super 530F missiles are very heavy and strongly impact flight performance
* The Matra Super 530 F also are usles for frontal engagement as missile is unable to lock on radar signal beyond 10 km making stealth out of missile range visibility viable strategy
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* 30 mm DEFA cannons are difficult to use, particularly against high-speed targets
* Poor maneuverability at low and high speeds with only "workable" agility at mid speeds
 
* Extreme speed loss until 660 km/h where manuvrebility drops to the level where phantom II with full bomb load can out turn you
 
* Low redline speed at around 1250 kph, slower than it's other 11.3 peers. (wing ripsat 1350 km/h)
 
* 30 mm DEFA cannons are difficult to use at high speeds dues to very slow bullets mostly making impossible firing beyond 800 m range if chasing enemy at over Mach 1 speeds
 
* Very reliant on missiles for it offence, easily countered by more experienced or aware pilots 
 
* Matra R530F missiles are unreliable having little to no chaff resistance, best used on unaware and preoccupied targets. 
 
* Extremely high repair cost for its possibilities of 9.7 performance comparable to eterdard IVM 
 
* Absolutely useless combat flaps that rip at 450 km/h (the landing speed of the plane that players will use) 
 
* Flaps not producing any effect on take of speeds (like there are not even there) 
 
* Extreme speed of matra magic 2 mistile makes its turn radius much larger than magic 1 missiles 
 
* Only 150 m/s climb while facing only planes having climb way beyond 200 m/s+ 
 
* Custom loadouts are limited extremely so you cant mount missiles ewrywere or anything other that would be useful or somewhat interesting despite its ability to take much heavier loads on pylons 
 
* The Cyrano-IV must be set up manually every single mission to use MTI mode that also limits its usable range to 28 km 
 
* Countermeasures seem to be much less effective compared to other planes requiring firing more of them to "fool" enemy missiles 
 
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==

Revision as of 10:21, 12 June 2022

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Mirage F1C
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Description

The Mirage F1C is a rank VII French jet fighter with a battle rating of 11.3 (AB/RB) and 11.0 (SB). It was introduced in Update "Wind of Change".

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 12 000 m2 228 km/h
Turn time27 s
Max altitude16 000 m
EngineSNECMA Atar 9K-50
Type
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight15 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 12,000 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 2,149 2,106 16000 28.6 29.1 129.5 123.5 750
Upgraded 2,228 2,228 26.0 27.0 183.2 155.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1,351 444 555 549 416 ~__ ~__
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< ___ < ___ < ___ N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
SNECMA Atar 9K-50 1 8,161 kg ___ kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 13m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 43m fuel
1,590 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 9,168 kg 9,702 kg 10,472 kg 11,516 kg _,___ kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 13m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 43m fuel MTOW
Stationary 4,876 kgf 6,750 kgf 0.74 0.70 0.65 0.59 _.__
Optimal 5,900 kgf
(1,200 - 1,351 km/h)
9,110 kgf
(1,351 km/h)
0.99 0.94 0.87 0.79 _.__

Survivability and armour

Flares/Chaff
Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar
Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear444 km/h

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB2 992 → 4 066 Sl icon.png
RB8 800 → 11 959 Sl icon.png
SB9 005 → 12 237 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications292 000 Rp icon.png
449 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost3 000 Ge icon.png
Crew training270 000 Sl icon.png
Experts950 000 Sl icon.png
Aces3 200 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 210 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
100 / 320 / 600 % Sl icon.png
244 / 244 / 244 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
19 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
29 000 Sl icon.png
680 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
19 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
29 000 Sl icon.png
680 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
aden_belt_pack
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Type 25C
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods heli false thermal targets.png
Flares/Chaff
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods air to air missile.png
Matra R530
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mod arrow right 0.png
Mods air to air missile.png
Matra R530E
Mods weapon.png
aden_new_gun
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Type 21B
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
Matra JL-100R
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods gunpods.png
Gun pod CC-420
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk83
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
Matra LR F1
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods air to air missile.png
Matra 530F
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods ammo.png
aden_gunpod_belt_pack
Research:
19 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
29 000 Sl icon.png
680 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk84
Research:
19 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
29 000 Sl icon.png
680 Ge icon.png
Mods air to air missile.png
Matra R550 Magic 2
Research:
19 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
29 000 Sl icon.png
680 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns) CCIP (Rockets) CCIP (Bombs) CCRP (Bombs)
Icon GreenCheckmark.png Icon GreenCheckmark.png Icon GreenCheckmark.png Icon GreenCheckmark.png

Offensive armament

Main article: DEFA 553 (30 mm)

The Mirage F1C is armed with:

  • A choice between two presets:
    • 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons, belly-mounted (135 rpg = 270 total)
    • 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons + 120 x countermeasures

Suspended armament

The Mirage F1C can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets
  • 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
  • 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (180 rpg = 360 total)
  • 5 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (1,250 kg total)
  • 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
  • 3 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bombs (3,000 kg total)
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles
  • 2 x Matra R530E missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
  • 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bomb (1,000 kg total)
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bomb + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (400 kg total)
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bomb (1,000 kg total)
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bomb + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (400 kg total)

Custom loadout options

1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Hardpoints Mirage F1C.png
Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles 1 1
Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles 1 1
SNEB type 23 rockets 18, 36 18, 36 18, 36 18, 36
250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs 1 1 1 1 1
250 kg SAMP Mk 82 bombs 1 1 1 1 1
400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs 1 1 1 1 1
500 kg SAMP Mk 83 bombs 1 1 1 1 1
30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (180 rpg) 1 1
Matra Super 530F missiles 1 1
1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bombs 1 1 1
Matra R530E missiles 1 1 1
Matra R530 missiles 1 1 1
Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 500 kg

Usage in battles

The most effective way of using the Mirage F1C in Air Realistic battles is to play a support role. Try to stay behind your team and target slow and distracted enemies using the powerful air-to-air missiles. Considering the poor top speed and manoeuvrability of the Mirage F1C, it doesn't stand much chance in duels against most enemies, even against uptiered fighters.

The F1C also makes a surprisingly good strike aircraft due to its ability to carry larger bombs compared to its ground-striking peers such as the Mirage 5F or even the Jaguar.

Enemies worth noting:

Every fighter at the BR is a threat for the Mirage F1C because of its slow acceleration and bad elevator and rudder response. Any opposing fighter will outmanoeuvre you.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Availability of Matra Super 530F and R550 Magic 2 air-to-air missiles
  • The Cyrano-IV allows low altitude Pulse-Doppler (MTI) and ACM, an upgrade from the previous Mirages (IIIE & IIIC)
  • 120 countermeasures
  • Decent acceleration at higher speeds

Cons:

  • Very slow acceleration with ordnance
  • Poor manoeuvrability at low and high speeds with only "workable" agility at mid speeds
  • Low wing-rip speed compared to other aircraft at the rank
  • The Matra Super 530F missiles are very heavy and strongly impact flight performance
  • 30 mm DEFA cannons are difficult to use, particularly against high-speed targets

History

Devblog

In the early 1960s, Dassault Aviation was conducting intense design studies on the basis of the Mirage, resulting in a number of different variations of the aircraft emerging. Among them, a smaller swept wing design of the Mirage outfitted with the latest and more powerful SNECMA Atar 9K-50 turbojet engine garnered the interest of Dassault engineers as a possible future replacement to the existing Mirage III and Mirage 5 fighters.

Confident in the design, Dassault began conducting further design work under the official name Mirage F1 as part of a private venture. In late 1966, the first prototype conducted its maiden flight and the initial test results proved to be rather positive. In late 1966, the French Air Force also expressed interest in the aircraft and officially adopted the development programme. Subsequently, the Air Force ordered a small batch of pre-production aircraft to be built in April 1967. After Dassault persuaded the Air Force to accept the Mirage F1 into service in order to make the aircraft also marketable to foreign operators, the first production order for the aircraft was issued in 1969.

Entering official service with the French Air Force in March 1974, the Mirage F1 took part in their first combat operations a decade later flying sorties against insurgent forces in Chad. Mirage F1s also took part in French operations during the Gulf War in 1990. In the late 2000s, French Mirage F1s also supported international forces during operations in Afghanistan.

Apart from France, several other nations such as Greece, Spain, South Africa, Qatar, Iraq, Morocco, and many others, operated variants of the Mirage F1.

Media

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See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Dassault Aviation
WW2
Fighters  M.B.152C1 · M.B.157
Bombers  M.B.162 · M.B.174A-3 · M.B.175T
Jet Aircraft 
M.D 450  M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.450B Ouragan
Mystère  M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA
Super Mystère  Super Mystere B2
Étendard  Etendard IVM
Super Étendard  Super Etendard
Alpha Jet  Alpha Jet E**
Mirage 
Mirage III  Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan
Mirage V  Mirage 5F
Mirage F1  Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT
Mirage 2000  Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000D-R1
Mirage 4000  Mirage 4000
Export 
M.D 450  M.D.450B Ouragan
Mystere  Mystere IVA
Super Mystère  Sambad · Sa'ar***
Mirage  Shahak
  *The company was named "Société des Avions Marcel Bloch" before being renamed in 1947
  **Jointly manufactured with Dornier Flugzeugwerke
  ***Israeli Super Mystère refitted with new avionics and an American engine

France jet aircraft
Fighters  M.D.450B Ouragan · M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA · Super Mystere B2
  ▄F-86K · ▄F-100D · ▄F-8E(FN)
  Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan · Mirage 5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 4000
  Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT
Strike aircraft  ▄F-84F · F-84F IAF · ▄F-84G-26-RE
  Etendard IVM · Super Etendard · Alpha Jet E
  Jaguar A · Jaguar E · Mirage 2000D-R1
Bombers  S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late)