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{{Specs-Card|code=mig-17}}
 
{{Specs-Card|code=mig-17}}
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.55 "Royal Armour"]]. It is known by many names in the world, with a NATO reporting name of ''Fresco'', the Chinese name [[J-4|''Shenyang J-5 (歼-5)'']], and the Polish name ''PZL-Mielec Lim-5''.
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The '''MiG-17''' is a Rank V Soviet jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0. It was introduced in Update 1.55 "Royal Armour". The MiG-17 is the top-rank aircraft in the Soviet fighter line-up. It is known by many names in the world, with a NATO reporting name of ''Fresco'', the Chinese name ''Shenyang J-5 (歼-5)'', and the Polish name ''PZL-Mielec Lim-5''.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
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=== Flight Performance ===
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The MiG-17 can best be described as a more user-friendly [[MiG-15bis]]. It features a much better roll rate, compresses less at subsonic speeds, and pulls harder, yet has worse acceleration and energy retention, as well as low speed performance, as well as being easier to rip. It is also the lowest battle rated Soviet plane to be able to breach Mach rated speeds under normal combat conditions.
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! colspan="8" | Characteristics
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 2,000 m)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 2,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
 
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! Stock
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| 1,097 || 1,061 || 15,500 || 22.2 || 23.2 || 41.2 || 39.1 || 475
| 1,091 || 1,061 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 22.2 || 23.2 || 41.2 || 39.1 || rowspan="2" | 475
 
 
|-
 
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! Upgraded
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
| 1,128 || 1,114 || 21.2 || 21.5 || 59.9 || 50.0
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 2,000 m)
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! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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| ? || 1,114 || 15,500 || ??.? || 21.5 || ?.? || 50.0 || 475
 
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|}
 
|}
  
==== Details ====
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====Details====
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
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! colspan="6" | Features
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! colspan="5" | Features
 
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
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! Combat flap
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! Take-off flap
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! Landing flap
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! Air brakes
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! Arrestor gear
 
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| X || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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| X || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X    <!-- ✓ -->
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
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! colspan="7" | Limits
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! colspan="5" | Limits
 
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! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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! -
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 650 || 450 || ~12 || ~5
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| 1,150 || 450 || 650 || ~18 || ~8
 
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|}
 
|}
  
==== Engine performance ====
 
 
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! colspan="3" | Engine
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
 
 
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! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
! colspan="2" | Empty mass || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
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| colspan="2" | Klimov VK-1 || 1
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| < 600 || < 700 || < 750 || > 250
| colspan="2" | 3,868 kg || colspan="2" | 223 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 
 
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! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
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! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br />Weight
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
 
! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 31m fuel
 
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| 892 kg || colspan="2" | Centrifugal-flow turbojet
 
| 4,209 kg || 4,625 kg || 5,041 kg || 5,485 kg
 
 
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
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! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
 
 
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! Condition || 100% || WEP
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! colspan="3" | Setting 1
! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 31m fuel || MTOW
 
 
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| ''Stationary'' || 2,450 kgf || N/A
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! Optimal altitude
| 0.58 || 0.53 || 0.49 || 0.45
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
 
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| ''Optimal'' || 2,450 kgf<br />(0 km/h) || N/A
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| 0 m || 2450 kgf || No WEP
| 0.58 || 0.53 || 0.49 || 0.45
 
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* 60 mm Bulletproof glass in cockpit front.
 
* 60 mm Bulletproof glass in cockpit front.
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|N-37D (37 mm)|NR-23 (23 mm)}}
 
{{main|N-37D (37 mm)|NR-23 (23 mm)}}
  
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* 1 x 37 mm N-37D cannon, nose-mounted (40 rpg)
 
* 1 x 37 mm N-37D cannon, nose-mounted (40 rpg)
* 2 x 23 mm NR-23 cannons, nose-mounted (80 rpg = 160 total)
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* 2 x 23 mm NR-23 cannon, nose-mounted (80 rpg = 160 total)
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|OFAB-250-270 (250 kg)|S-5K|S-5M|S-21}}
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{{main|OFAB-250-270 (500 kg)|S5K|S5M|S21}}
  
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with external ordinance such as:
  
 
* Without load
 
* Without load
 
* 2 x 250 kg OFAB-250-270 bombs (500 kg total)
 
* 2 x 250 kg OFAB-250-270 bombs (500 kg total)
* 16 x S-5K rockets
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* 16 x S5K rockets
* 16 x S-5M rockets
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* 16 x S5M rockets
* 2 x S-21 rockets
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* 2 x S21 rockets
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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The newly gained top speed performance and maneuverbility come at a hefty price. Turn rate and low speed flexibility is gone, due the stronger swept wing design and gained a quarter&middot;tonnes.
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Acceleration also takes a hit, especially on take-off the predecessor will rush ahead.
  
The MiG-17 should be played like its predecessors, the MiG-15s. In 1v1 situations, the -17 will easily win if played correctly, and due to its superior flight characteristics it is easier to win fights against multiple enemies. You have the upper hand in the initial dogfight, as your great turn will allow you to get on their 6 without much difficulty. However, in a prolonged engagement the chances of you losing increase due to your heavier weight and good, yet not spectacular energy retention. If the player is uncomfortable with dogfighting, the MiG-17 can also be a very effective boom-and-zoom fighter.  
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As some positive characteristics traits of the MiG-15 vanish, some negative aspect vanish. The newly designed tail enables far better control close over Mach 0.8 (it still lacks a flying tail though) and the roll rate also significantly improved. Manual limitation set the airframe at positive 8G, with the increased control the likelihood of over stressing your airframe is easy and a steady hand required in evasive maneuvers.
  
=== Modules ===
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===Modules===
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
{| class="wikitable"
! Tier
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! colspan="2" | Flight performance
 
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
! Survivability
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! colspan="1" | Survivability
 
! colspan="3" | Weaponry
 
! colspan="3" | Weaponry
 
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| I
 
| I
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| Compressor
 
| Compressor
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| Offensive 23 mm
 
| Offensive 23 mm
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| BD-2-48
 
| BD-2-48
 
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| II
 
| II
| New boosters
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| New Boosters
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| Airframe
 
| Airframe
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| Offensive 37 mm
 
| Offensive 37 mm
 
| S5K
 
| S5K
 
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| III
 
| III
| Wings repair
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| New 23 mm cannons
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| New 23 mm Cannons
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| S5M
 
| S5M
 
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| IV
 
| IV
| G-suit
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| G-Suit
 
| Engine
 
| Engine
 
| Cover
 
| Cover
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| New 37 mm cannons
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| New 37 mm Cannons
 
| S21
 
| S21
 
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It is recommended to obtain the modifications in the following order:
 
 
Compressor>New boosters>Offensive 37mm>Wings repair>Engine>G-suit>New 37mm cannons>Cover>Offensive 23mm>New 23mm cannons>Airframe>Fuselage repair>Suspended weapons
 
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
* Excellent acceleration and speed in dives
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* Incredibly fast in a dive.
* Excellent climb rate and acceleration, almost same as the [[MiG-15bis]]
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* Excellent climb speed, almost same as the [[MiG-15bis|MiG-15 bis]]
* Guns will tear even the heaviest of bombers into shreds with a good solid burst
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* Very good maneuverability at low to medium speeds, also better maneuverability than its predecessor at high speed
* Very good manoeuvrability at low to medium speeds
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* Excellent energy retention, but if you turn too hard, expect to lose a few hundred km/h
* More manoeuverable at high speeds than the MiG-15s
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* Can safely reach a speed of 1,150 km/h when diving
* Excellent energy retention, but still loses some speed when turning hard
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* Unless rolling and pulling up at the same time, its hard to break your wings in turn
* If you airbrake enemies should struggle to make you overshoot (but it is risky)
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* Similarities with [[MiG-15bis|MiG-15 bis]] means the play style between the two are quite similar
* Performs well at altitude when compared to aircraft such as the F-86F Sabres and the Hunter F.1
 
* Can safely reach a speed of 1,150 km/h (IAS) and up to Mach 1.10 when diving
 
* If you do NOT ROLL while you are turning, its hard to break your wings in a turn
 
* Lack of afterburner makes your fuel not run out insanely fast
 
* Very similar to the [[MiG-15bis]]. This means that the play style between the two is not too different
 
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Roll rate is better than that of the the [[MiG-15bis]], but not on par with others in this tier
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* Roll rate is not very good, but its still better than that of the the [[MiG-15bis|MiG-15 bis]]
* Might lose to a MiG-15bis in low speed turn and acceleration
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* Guns are hard to aim and lead due to their relatively low muzzle velocity; small ammo capacity
* Minimal fuel load usually runs out quickly (only eight minutes), forcing to take 20 minutes of fuel
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* Different trajectory performances between 23 mm and 37 mm; requires experience and practice to use the weapons
* Guns are hard to aim and lead due to their rather low muzzle velocity
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* Poor acceleration in speeds between 800 - 1,100 km/h
* Guns have small ammo capacity, ammo conservation is a must
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* Doesn't do well against most 9.7-10.0 aircraft due to lack of air-to-air missles, afterburner and radar
* Different trajectories between 23 mm and 37 mm (Vertical Targeting might help with this)
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* Engine easily overheats, throttle management necessary
* Mediocre acceleration in speeds between 800 - 1,100 km/h
 
* Acceleration and energy retention makes defensive fighting harder
 
* Acceleration and energy retention makes it easier for YOU to overshoot targets
 
* Does NOT have air-to-air missiles, has no afterburner and has no radar
 
* Lacks radar rangefinder for the gyro sight
 
* Engine eventually might overheat when operated over 96% throttle
 
* Like most jet fighters it does not handle damage very well
 
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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The Korean war showed that the MiG-15 and [[MiG-15bis]] fighters were able to battle any aerial opponent at least on equal terms. The MiG-17 was a further development of the MiG-15 design that had proven itself so well. It was decided to increase the aircraft’s speed by increasing the sweep of the wing and the fuselage being lengthened to maintain the centre of gravity. The [[MiG-15]] and MiG-17 show almost no differences at first glance. The prototype of the MiG-17 was even called the MiG-15bis45. However, only the frontal parts of the fuselage are the same, from the air intake to the wing, if you don’t count the landing headlight that had been moved to the left wing and some minor details.
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The Korean war showed that the MiG-15 and [[MiG-15bis|MiG-15 bis]] fighters were able to battle any aerial opponent at least on equal terms. The MiG-17 was a further development of the MiG-15 design that had proven itself so well. It was decided to increase the aircraft’s speed by increasing the sweep of the wing and the fuselage being lengthened to maintain the centre of gravity. The [[MiG-15|MiG-15]] and MiG-17 show almost no differences at first glance. The prototype of the MiG-17 was even called the MiG-15bis45. However, only the frontal parts of the fuselage are the same, from the air intake to the wing, if you don’t count the landing headlight that had been moved to the left wing and some minor details.
  
 
These aircraft are different in every other way. It is easy to see the main differences when you look from above. By comparing the side profiles, you can see that in addition to the difference in fuselage length there are differences in the tail fin and an additional ventral fin which allows you to immediately tell the MiG-17 apart from the MiG-15. The upper part of the fins and the rudders of the aircraft are different, the juncture between the fin and the stabilizer fin also differs, but this can only be seen close up. The wing sweep of the stabilizer fin was also increased and there were also changes to elevators. The air brakes also differ in shape and size. The depth of the housing was decreased, so a cigar-shaped cowl was created to hide the cylinder. There were very significant changes to the wing. Apart from an increased wing sweep, a leading edge break appeared and the tips became rounder, which helps differentiate the aircraft when looking at them from above or below. While the Mig-15 had two aerodynamic ridges on the top surface of its wings, the MiG-17 had three.
 
These aircraft are different in every other way. It is easy to see the main differences when you look from above. By comparing the side profiles, you can see that in addition to the difference in fuselage length there are differences in the tail fin and an additional ventral fin which allows you to immediately tell the MiG-17 apart from the MiG-15. The upper part of the fins and the rudders of the aircraft are different, the juncture between the fin and the stabilizer fin also differs, but this can only be seen close up. The wing sweep of the stabilizer fin was also increased and there were also changes to elevators. The air brakes also differ in shape and size. The depth of the housing was decreased, so a cigar-shaped cowl was created to hide the cylinder. There were very significant changes to the wing. Apart from an increased wing sweep, a leading edge break appeared and the tips became rounder, which helps differentiate the aircraft when looking at them from above or below. While the Mig-15 had two aerodynamic ridges on the top surface of its wings, the MiG-17 had three.
  
The change in the shape of the wing led to appropriate changes in the construction of the flaps. The new geometry of the main landing gear legs required for the cover to be altered. The structure of the canopy also saw some changes. However, the first versions of the MiG-17 had the same canopies as the [[MiG-15bis]]. Apart from changes to the design of the canopy framing (which is not actually that noticeable from afar), a rear-view mirror was introduced that would allow the aircraft to be recognized from further away. There were no significant changes to the cockpit. Overall, the MiG-17 looks even more aesthetically pleasing and streamlined than its predecessor.
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The change in the shape of the wing led to appropriate changes in the construction of the flaps. The new geometry of the main landing gear legs required for the cover to be altered. The structure of the canopy also saw some changes. However, the first versions of the MiG-17 had the same canopies as the [[MiG-15bis|MiG-15 bis]]. Apart from changes to the design of the canopy framing (which is not actually that noticeable from afar), a rear-view mirror was introduced that would allow the aircraft to be recognized from further away. There were no significant changes to the cockpit. Overall, the MiG-17 looks even more aesthetically pleasing and streamlined than its predecessor.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=jet_fighter&vehicle=mig-17 Skins and camouflages for the MiG-17  from live.warthunder]
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== See also ==
<div><ul>
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''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:MiG-17_Image1.png|thumb|none|300px|A MiG-17 avoiding the rounds from an F-86F-25 Sabre.]] </li>
 
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Mig17vf86.png|thumb|none|300px|A MiG-17 after a hard-earned victory over an F-86 Sabre.]] </li>
 
</ul></div>
 
  
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== See also ==
 
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* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
* [[J-4]]
 
* [[Shenyang F-5]]
 
  
 
== External links ==
 
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* [[wt:en/devblog/current/857/|[Devblog] MiG-17]]
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* [https://warthunder.com/en/devblog/current/857/ [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> MiG-17]
  
{{AirManufacturer MiG}}
 
 
{{USSR jet aircraft}}
 
{{USSR jet aircraft}}

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General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
9.0/9.0/9.0BR
1 personCrew
5.49 tTake-off weight
10.8 kg/sBurst mass
Flight characteristics
15500 mCeiling
Klimov VK-1Engine
JetType
airCooling system
Speed of destruction
1150 km/hStructural
450 km/hGear
Offensive armament
37 mm N-37D cannonWeapon 1
40 roundsAmmunition
400 shots/minFire rate
2 x 23 mm NR-23 cannonWeapon 2
160 roundsAmmunition
900 shots/minFire rate
Suspended armament
2 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombSetup 1
16 x S-5K rocketsSetup 2
16 x S-5M rocketsSetup 3
2 x S-21 rocketsSetup 4
Economy
380000 Rp icon.pngResearch
990000 Sl icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png11000 / 15168/10380 / 14314/4690 / 6467Repair
280000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
990000 Sl icon.pngExperts
2200 Ge icon.pngAces
214 % Rp icon.pngReward for battle
320 % Sl icon.png240 % Sl icon.png120 % Sl icon.png

Description

GarageImage MiG-17.jpg


The MiG-17 is a Rank V Soviet jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0. It was introduced in Update 1.55 "Royal Armour". The MiG-17 is the top-rank aircraft in the Soviet fighter line-up. It is known by many names in the world, with a NATO reporting name of Fresco, the Chinese name Shenyang J-5 (歼-5), and the Polish name PZL-Mielec Lim-5.

General info

Flight Performance

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 2,000 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
1,097 1,061 15,500 22.2 23.2 41.2 39.1 475
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 2,000 m)
Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ? 1,114 15,500  ??.? 21.5  ?.? 50.0 475

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flap
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
1,150 450 650 ~18 ~8
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 600 < 700 < 750 > 250
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
0 m 2450 kgf No WEP

Survivability and armour

  • 60 mm Bulletproof glass in cockpit front.
  • 16 mm Steel plates behind the pilot.
  • 10 mm Steel plate in the nose.

Armaments

Offensive armament

The MiG-17 is armed with:

  • 1 x 37 mm N-37D cannon, nose-mounted (40 rpg)
  • 2 x 23 mm NR-23 cannon, nose-mounted (80 rpg = 160 total)

Suspended armament

Main articles: OFAB-250-270 (500 kg), S5K, S5M, S21

The MiG-17 can be outfitted with external ordinance such as:

  • Without load
  • 2 x 250 kg OFAB-250-270 bombs (500 kg total)
  • 16 x S5K rockets
  • 16 x S5M rockets
  • 2 x S21 rockets

Usage in battles

The newly gained top speed performance and maneuverbility come at a hefty price. Turn rate and low speed flexibility is gone, due the stronger swept wing design and gained a quarter·tonnes.

Acceleration also takes a hit, especially on take-off the predecessor will rush ahead.

As some positive characteristics traits of the MiG-15 vanish, some negative aspect vanish. The newly designed tail enables far better control close over Mach 0.8 (it still lacks a flying tail though) and the roll rate also significantly improved. Manual limitation set the airframe at positive 8G, with the increased control the likelihood of over stressing your airframe is easy and a steady hand required in evasive maneuvers.

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Compressor Offensive 23 mm BD-2-48
II New Boosters Airframe Offensive 37 mm S5K
III Wings Repair New 23 mm Cannons S5M
IV G-Suit Engine Cover New 37 mm Cannons S21

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Incredibly fast in a dive.
  • Excellent climb speed, almost same as the MiG-15 bis
  • Very good maneuverability at low to medium speeds, also better maneuverability than its predecessor at high speed
  • Excellent energy retention, but if you turn too hard, expect to lose a few hundred km/h
  • Can safely reach a speed of 1,150 km/h when diving
  • Unless rolling and pulling up at the same time, its hard to break your wings in turn
  • Similarities with MiG-15 bis means the play style between the two are quite similar

Cons:

  • Roll rate is not very good, but its still better than that of the the MiG-15 bis
  • Guns are hard to aim and lead due to their relatively low muzzle velocity; small ammo capacity
  • Different trajectory performances between 23 mm and 37 mm; requires experience and practice to use the weapons
  • Poor acceleration in speeds between 800 - 1,100 km/h
  • Doesn't do well against most 9.7-10.0 aircraft due to lack of air-to-air missles, afterburner and radar
  • Engine easily overheats, throttle management necessary

History

The Korean war showed that the MiG-15 and MiG-15 bis fighters were able to battle any aerial opponent at least on equal terms. The MiG-17 was a further development of the MiG-15 design that had proven itself so well. It was decided to increase the aircraft’s speed by increasing the sweep of the wing and the fuselage being lengthened to maintain the centre of gravity. The MiG-15 and MiG-17 show almost no differences at first glance. The prototype of the MiG-17 was even called the MiG-15bis45. However, only the frontal parts of the fuselage are the same, from the air intake to the wing, if you don’t count the landing headlight that had been moved to the left wing and some minor details.

These aircraft are different in every other way. It is easy to see the main differences when you look from above. By comparing the side profiles, you can see that in addition to the difference in fuselage length there are differences in the tail fin and an additional ventral fin which allows you to immediately tell the MiG-17 apart from the MiG-15. The upper part of the fins and the rudders of the aircraft are different, the juncture between the fin and the stabilizer fin also differs, but this can only be seen close up. The wing sweep of the stabilizer fin was also increased and there were also changes to elevators. The air brakes also differ in shape and size. The depth of the housing was decreased, so a cigar-shaped cowl was created to hide the cylinder. There were very significant changes to the wing. Apart from an increased wing sweep, a leading edge break appeared and the tips became rounder, which helps differentiate the aircraft when looking at them from above or below. While the Mig-15 had two aerodynamic ridges on the top surface of its wings, the MiG-17 had three.

The change in the shape of the wing led to appropriate changes in the construction of the flaps. The new geometry of the main landing gear legs required for the cover to be altered. The structure of the canopy also saw some changes. However, the first versions of the MiG-17 had the same canopies as the MiG-15 bis. Apart from changes to the design of the canopy framing (which is not actually that noticeable from afar), a rear-view mirror was introduced that would allow the aircraft to be recognized from further away. There were no significant changes to the cockpit. Overall, the MiG-17 looks even more aesthetically pleasing and streamlined than its predecessor.

Media

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


USSR jet aircraft
Bereznyak-Isayev  BI
Yakovlev  Yak-15 · Yak-15P · Yak-17 · Yak-23 · Yak-30 · Yak-38 · Yak-38M
Mikoyan-Gurevich  MiG-9 · MiG-9 (l) · MiG-15 · MiG-15bis · MiG-15bis ISH · MiG-17 · MiG-17AS · MiG-19PT · MiG-21F-13 · MiG-21SMT · MiG-21bis
Lavochkin  La-174 · La-15 · La-200
Sukhoi  Su-7B · Su-7BKL
Ilyushin  IL-28 · IL-28Sh
Tupolev  Tu-14T