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|code=uk_a_33_excelsior
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|market=A.33+Heavy+Assault+Tank+%27Excelsior%27
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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[[File:GarageImage M18SuperHellcat.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (or the '''{{Specs|pseudonym}}''') is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} American tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.51 "Cold Steel"]]. It is similar to the Rank III [[M18 GMC|M18 Hellcat]], only using the [[M36 GMC|M36 GMC]] turret to mount the 90 mm gun.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (or just '''{{Specs|name}}''') is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} British heavy tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.67 "Assault"]] during the 2017 World War Two: Chronicle Event, unlocked after obtaining 11 Chronicle Awards. Based off the [[Cromwell V|Cromwell]] chassis, the Excelsior provides a substantial armour upgrade with speed.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
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|-
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| Hull || 12.7 mm (63°)|| 12.7 mm || 12.7 mm || 8.0 mm
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| Hull || 114 mm (1°) ''Front plate'' <br> 55 mm (74°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 114 mm (18°), 55 mm (65°) ''Lower glacis'' || 39 + 25.4 mm || 32 mm (1°) ''Top'' <br> 20 mm (18-62°) ''Bottom'' || 20 mm
 
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| Turret || 31.75 mm ''Turret front'' <br> 76.2 mm ''Gun mantlet''|| 31.75 mm || 25.4 mm || N/A
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| Turret || 114 mm (1°) ''Turret front'' <br> 63.5 mm (1-41°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 63.5 mm || 63.5 mm (1°) || 20 mm
 
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|}
 
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'''Notes:'''
 
'''Notes:'''
  
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* Suspension wheels and tracks are 15 mm thick.
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* Suspension wheels and bogies are 20 mm thick while tracks are 30 mm thick.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
 
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 653|rbMinHp= 407|<!--AoAweight=(optional) -->}}
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 811|rbMinHp= 555}}
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
 
<!--Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.-->
 
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{{main|M3 (90 mm)}}
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{{main|Ordnance QF Mk.V (75 mm)}}
  
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
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! colspan="6" | [[M3 (90 mm)|90 mm M3]]
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! colspan="6" | [[Ordnance QF Mk.V (75 mm)|75 mm Ordnance QF Mk.V]]
 
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! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
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! style="width:5em" rowspan="1" colspan="3" |Capacity
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
 
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
 
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| colspan="3" | 45 || -10°/+20° || ±180° || N/A
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| colspan="3" | 104 || -12.5°/+20° || ±180° || N/A
 
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! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
 
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
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| ''Arcade'' ||22.85||31.62||38.40||42.47||45.18
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| ''Arcade'' || 19.4 || 26.9 || 24.0 || 26.60 || 28.20
 
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| ''Realistic'' || 14.28 || 16.80 || 20.40 || 22.60 || 24.00
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| ''Realistic'' || 14.28 || 16.80 || 20.4 || 22.60 || 24.00
 
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! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
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! style="width:4em" colspan="1" |Stock
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
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! style="width:4em" colspan="1" |Prior + Full crew
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
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! style="width:4em" colspan="1" |Prior + Expert qualif.
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
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! style="width:4em" colspan="1" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
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| 11.05 || 9.78 || 9.00 || 8.50
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| 6.50 || 5.75 || 5.30 || 5.00
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
===== Ammunition =====
 
===== Ammunition =====
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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{| width="100%" class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
 
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! class="unsortable" rowspan="2" | Type of <br /> warhead
 
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
 
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
 
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! 2000m
 
! 2000m
 
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| T33 shot || AP || 189 || 188 || 163 || 137 || 115 || 96
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| M72 Shot || AP || 91 || 88 || 78 || 67 || 57 || 49
 
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| M71 shell || HE || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13
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| M48 Shell || HE || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10
 
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| M82 shot || APCBC || 165 || 164 || 150 || 137 || 125 || 114
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| M61 Shot  || APCBC || 103 || 100 || 89 || 77 || 66 || 57
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| M304 shot || APCR || 264 || 260 || 245 || 226 || 210 || 191
 
 
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|-
 
|}
 
|}
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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{| width="100%" class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
 
! colspan="11" | Shell details
 
! colspan="11" | Shell details
 
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|-
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! class="unsortable" rowspan="2" | Type of <br /> warhead
 
! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
 
! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
 
! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
 
! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! 100%
 
! 100%
 
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| T33 shot || AP || 822 || 11 || N/A || N/A || N/A || -1° || 47° || 60° || 65°
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| M72 Shot || AP || 619 || 6.3 || N/A || N/A || N/A || -1° || 47° || 60° || 65°  
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| M48 Shell || HE || 463 || 6.3 || 0.4 || 0.5 || 666 ||+0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
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| M61 Shot  || APCBC || 618 || 6.8 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
 
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| M71 shell || HE || 823 || 11 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 925 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
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! colspan="7" | Smoke characteristic
 
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| M82 shot || APCBC || 813 || 11 || 1.2 || 20 || 137.2 || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
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! Ammunition
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! Velocity <br /> in m/s
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! Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! ''Screen radius <br /> in m''
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! ''Screen time <br /> in s''
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! ''Screen hold time <br /> in s:''
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! ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
 
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| M304 shot || APCR || 1021 || 7.6 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +1.5° || 66° || 70° || 72°
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| M89 || 259 || 3 || 13 || 5 || 20 || 50
 
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|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
 
===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
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[[File:Ammoracks_M18SuperHellcat.png|right|thumbnail|300px|Ammo racks of the Super Hellcat.]]
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[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|Ammo racks of the M4A3E2 Jumbo.]]
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
 
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br />ammo
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br /> ammo
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br />rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br /> rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br />rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br /> rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br />rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br /> rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th<br />rack empty
 
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th<br />rack empty
 
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th<br />rack empty
 
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |7th<br />rack empty
 
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |8th<br />rack empty
 
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
 
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| '''45''' || 40&nbsp;''(+5)'' || 34&nbsp;''(+11)'' || 28&nbsp;''(+17)'' || 22&nbsp;''(+23)'' || 16&nbsp;''(+29)'' || 11&nbsp;''(+34)'' || 6&nbsp;''(+39)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+44)'' || style="text-align:center" |Yes
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|| '''64''' || 33&nbsp;''(+31)'' || 17&nbsp;''(+47)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+63)'' || style="text-align:left" | Yes  
 
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Turret empty: 34 ''(+11)''
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Center empty: 33&nbsp;''(+31)''
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===== Optics =====
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[[File:A.33 Excelsior Simulator Optics .gif|thumb|300x300px|A.33 Optics placement in Simulator Mode.]]
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When in simulator mode the gun will fire slightly low and to the left of the aimed position due to the sight being offset, this should be kept in mind and accounted for when engaging targets.
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! Default magnification
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! Maximum magnification
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! Main Gun optics
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| x1.85 || x3.5 <!--Sometimes the actual value may not be known and here it should be referenced if the optic values are an estimate such as with an "X8.3 (estimated)" notation or something else that way the user will then be able to look to the comparable optics section and see a referenced optic which will have actual in-game data to back up the claim.-->
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! Comparable optics
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| style="text-align:center;" colspan="2" | [[Churchill Mk I]]
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=== Machine guns ===
 
=== Machine guns ===
 
<!--Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.-->
 
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{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)}}
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{{main|BESA (7.92 mm)}}
  
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
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! colspan="7" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
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! colspan="7" | [[BESA (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm BESA]]
 
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! colspan="7" | ''Pintle mount''
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! colspan="7" | ''Coaxial mount''
 
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! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
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! style="width:5em" rowspan="1" colspan="4" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
 
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
 
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
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| colspan="4" | 800 (200) || 577 || -10°/+70° || ±60°
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| colspan="4" | 2,550 (225) || 600 || N/A || N/A
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! colspan="7" | ''Hull mount''
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! style="width:5em" rowspan="1" colspan="4" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
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! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
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! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
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! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
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| colspan="4" | 2,550 (250) || 600 || ±10° || ±10°
 
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|}
 
|}
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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<!--Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).-->
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''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
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The M18 "Super Hellcat" should be very familiar to those who play the [[M18 GMC|M18 Hellcat]]. It is very fast, equipped with a hard-hitting cannon, but at a cost of armour. Thus, the M18 Super Hellcat is a mobile hit-and-run vehicle, popping out from behind a cover and blasting the enemy with a shot before retreating. Change up the firing location often to avoid being hit if someone has located the Super Hellcat's position. The Hellcat won't hold the line by standing and absorbing shots, but it can if it is picking off each attacker one by one like a sniper.
 
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The main focus of gaining the Super Hellcat is the 90 mm upgrade, and it is absolutely beautiful. The main round recommended using well be the M82 APCBC round, the reason being reliable one shot knock-outs. The M82 has enough penetration to penetrate a [[Tiger H1|Tiger I]] through the front plate.
 
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In an offensive and defensive position, the Hellcat should still remain behind cover and be constantly changing firing positions. Once a shot was fired, retreat back to cover and wait out until the next round is reloaded. In an offence, pop out from the cover occasionally and snipe at the enemy. In a defence, remain behind cover and catch the enemy off guard as they approach by letting them shoot a different target first and hit them while they are reloading. Another way is to let them move right into the Hellcat's line of sight, which should at best expose their sides, allowing for a shot to land an M82 APCBC round into them.
 
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A more aggressive play style is as a flanker and a point-capturer. The Hellcat's great speed can allow it to get around an enemy concentration and shoot them on the sides while they are focused at allies in front of them. They may eventually catch on to Hellcat's presence, and the Hellcat should take a more conservative action by returning back to the shoot-and-scoot tactic behind cover. The Hellcat's speed can also be used to rush towards the point. Though not recommended due to exposing the Hellcat's to enemy fire, the speed can ensure the Hellcat will be the first on the point, with a 90mm gun to defend itself. If lucky, the enemy team is too slow and the Hellcat will capture the point. If unlucky, the enemy will swarm the point, outnumber and constrict the Hellcat and destroy it. Thus it is not recommended to play as a point-capturer.
 
  
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With good shots, the cheeks of a [[Tiger II (P)|Tiger II (P)]] can be hit. Penetrating the Panther series (up to the [[Panther II]]) will require a clean shot to the mantlet and for the Panther II, a hit the flat of the turret. Same principles apply on Soviet mediums like the [[T-44]], hit the cheeks and turret ring. For Soviet heavy tanks, hit the lower glacis or the turret cheeks. Using the standard AP shot as a primary round isn't recommended as the fragmentation is minimal, same goes for APCR, which should be used only on the toughest enemies. Despite that, AP is useful against some enemies like the [[Tiger II (H)]] as the regular APCBC can penetrate the flat sides of the turret front. Use AP if there is a clean shot on the flat part of Tiger II (H) turret as it cant be penned by APCBC but if the turret is angled even a little AP well bounce so then use APCR same on Russian heavy tanks. Little hint when using AP or APCR on German/ Russian heavy tanks aim for the right side to hit the gunner and commander, giving precious seconds to escape. AP and APCR isn't recommended to shoot the angled front plates of the German Panther and Tiger II's as the angle is steep enough to absorb the shot unless at point-blank range. The reload with a max reloading skill is 9.5 seconds which gives it a decent rate of fire.
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=== Modules ===
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===Modules===
 
 
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! Tier
 
! Tier
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| I
 
| I
 
| Tracks
 
| Tracks
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| Parts
 
| Parts
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| M82 shot
 
 
| Horizontal Drive
 
| Horizontal Drive
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| II
 
| II
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| Brake System
 
| Brake System
 
| FPE
 
| FPE
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| M304 shot
 
 
| Adjustment of Fire
 
| Adjustment of Fire
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| M61 shot
 
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| III
 
| III
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| Crew Replenishment
 
| Crew Replenishment
 
| Elevation Mechanism
 
| Elevation Mechanism
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| IV
 
| IV
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| Engine
 
| Engine
 
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| M89
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| Smoke grenade
 
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! colspan="6" |This is a premium vehicle: all modifications are unlocked on purchase
 
! colspan="6" |This is a premium vehicle: all modifications are unlocked on purchase
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* Fantastic 90 mm gun with a very lethal M82 APCBC round
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* Decent front armour thickness
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* Pintle .50 cal machine gun is effective for anti-air purposes
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* Quite fast
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* Hull machine gun works
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* -12 degrees of gun depression
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* Premium SL and RP rewards
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* Access to smoke
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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* Despite being on the same chassis as the regular hellcat, the super hellcat has, for some reason, very slow acceleration
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* Front armour is non-sloping
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* Paper-thin armour
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* Low ammo count
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* Hull-breakable vehicle
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* Large ammo rack in turret ring makes for easy detonation
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* Exposed crew, watch out for machine gun and artillery
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* Very slow reverse
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* A penetrating round, even if inflicting minimum crew damages, have a high chance of disabling the transmission or engine
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* Shells have no HE filler
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* Ammunition always stored in hull sides
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* Weak side armour
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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===Development===
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===Prompt===
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During World War II, the [[M18 GMC|M18 "Hellcat"]] tank destroyer was very effective in its role in American service. Despite that, an attempt to upgrade the vehicle with a better gun took effect around 1944. Instead of the 76 mm gun that it originally had, it would take the 90 mm gun that was going into service at the time.
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The early combat experience of the [[Churchill Mk III|Churchill infantry tank]] raised concerns on its reliability and speed, with a suggestion that production be halted while development focus on an "universal tank" for the British armoured forces to replace the cruiser and infantry tanks. However, until such a design could be formulated, they still needed a tank for the assault role the infantry tanks would take.  
  
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The attempt to construct this focused on the turret to mount the heavier and larger gun. The M18's turret was then replaced with the turret from the [[M36 GMC|M36 GMC]] to mount the 90 mm gun. Testings with this variant showed that the instalment of the new turret did not hinder the speed performance of the M18, but the recoil of the 90 mm gun would cause the tank to bounce back heavily when fired, going back by at least 2 feet even with the muzzle brake attached on the 90 mm gun. The recoil force would also shake the entire tank hull and crew inside. The modified M18 mounting the 90 mm gun was nicknamed the '''"Super" Hellcat'''
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Rolls-Royce Company, the company producing the prototype [[Cromwell_V|A27 Cromwells]], suggested that the Tank Board use the A27 as an interim design with stronger armour, suspension, and armament. The suggestion was supported with the English Electric Company, whom plan to upgrade the A27 with thicker armour and elements from the American [[M6A1|M6 heavy tank]].  
  
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===Testing and cancellation===
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===Development and Cancellation===
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Despite the drawbacks, it was deemed an acceptable vehicle to use on the battlefield. The 90 mm gun would provide a very large firepower advantage over the 76 mm gun the M18 had originally, which could not penetrate the front of the [[Panther G|Panther tank]] unless in close range with HVAP ammo. The 90 mm could take out most of the late war German tank designs with ease. However, the war ended before the "Super" Hellcat could be deployed for combat use, and the project was cancelled along with the disbanding of the tank destroyer doctrine.
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On 07 May 1942<ref name="TMuseumValiant">Newsome, Bruce. "TANK INFANTRY A38, VALIANT (E1952.39)." Tankmuseum.org. The Tank Museum, n.d. Web. 10 May 2017. [http://www.tankmuseum.org/museum-online/vehicles/object-e1952-39 Website]</ref>, Tank Board approved for the production of these uparmoured A27 under the designation '''A33''', though it would also have the name '''Excelsior'''. English Electric Company were in charge of producing the uparmoured A27 models and produced two prototypes. The first had the M6 suspension system and a [[Ordnance QF 6-pounder Mk.III (57 mm)|6-pdr]] cannon. The second had a wider track, different armoured skirts, additional frontal armour, and a [[Ordnance QF Mk.V (75 mm)|75 mm gun]]. Both used the same V12 Meteor engine as the A27.
  
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Revision as of 15:46, 31 July 2020

Excelsior
uk_a_33_excelsior.png
Excelsior
Britain flag.png Britain
III Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
4.0 4.0 4.0
Class:
PREMIUM
Purchase:Bundle or Gift
Show in game
MARKET

Description

GarageImage Excelsior.jpg


The Tank, Heavy Assault, A33 (Excelsior) (or just Tank, Heavy Assault, A33 (Excelsior)) is a gift rank III British heavy tank with a battle rating of 4.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.67 "Assault" during the 2017 World War Two: Chronicle Event, unlocked after obtaining 11 Chronicle Awards. Based off the Cromwell chassis, the Excelsior provides a substantial armour upgrade with speed.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 114 mm (1°) Front plate
55 mm (74°) Front glacis
114 mm (18°), 55 mm (65°) Lower glacis 		39 + 25.4 mm 32 mm (1°) Top
20 mm (18-62°) Bottom 		20 mm
Turret 114 mm (1°) Turret front
63.5 mm (1-41°) Gun mantlet 		63.5 mm 63.5 mm (1°) 20 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels and bogies are 20 mm thick while tracks are 30 mm thick.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 42 3 40 811 1,198 20.28 29.95
Realistic 39 3 555 628 13.88 15.7

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: Ordnance QF Mk.V (75 mm)
75 mm Ordnance QF Mk.V
Capacity Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance 		Stabilizer
104 -12.5°/+20° ±180° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 19.4 26.9 24.0 26.60 28.20
Realistic 14.28 16.80 20.4 22.60 24.00
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
6.50 5.75 5.30 5.00
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration in mm @ 90°
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
M72 Shot AP 91 88 78 67 57 49
M48 Shell HE 10 10 10 10 10 10
M61 Shot APCBC 103 100 89 77 66 57
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
in m/s 		Projectile
Mass in kg 		Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent): 		Normalization At 30°
from horizontal: 		Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
M72 Shot AP 619 6.3 N/A N/A N/A -1° 47° 60° 65°
M48 Shell HE 463 6.3 0.4 0.5 666 +0° 79° 80° 81°
M61 Shot APCBC 618 6.8 N/A N/A N/A +4° 48° 63° 71°
Smoke characteristic
Ammunition Velocity
in m/s 		Projectile
Mass in kg 		Screen radius
in m 		Screen time
in s 		Screen hold time
in s: 		Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
M89 259 3 13 5 20 50
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the M4A3E2 Jumbo.
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
64 33 (+31) 17 (+47) 1 (+63) Yes

Center empty: 33 (+31)

Optics
A.33 Optics placement in Simulator Mode.

When in simulator mode the gun will fire slightly low and to the left of the aimed position due to the sight being offset, this should be kept in mind and accounted for when engaging targets.

Excelsior Optics
Which ones Default magnification Maximum magnification
Main Gun optics x1.85 x3.5
Comparable optics Churchill Mk I

Machine guns

Main article: BESA (7.92 mm)
7.92 mm BESA
Coaxial mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute) 		Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance
2,550 (225) 600 N/A N/A
Hull mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute) 		Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance
2,550 (250) 600 ±10° ±10°

Usage in battles

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Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Horizontal Drive
II Suspension Brake System FPE Adjustment of Fire M61 shot
III Filters Crew Replenishment Elevation Mechanism
IV Transmission Engine M89 Smoke grenade
This is a premium vehicle: all modifications are unlocked on purchase

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Decent front armour thickness
  • Quite fast
  • Hull machine gun works
  • -12 degrees of gun depression
  • Premium SL and RP rewards
  • Access to smoke

Cons:

  • Front armour is non-sloping
  • Low ammo count
  • Large ammo rack in turret ring makes for easy detonation
  • Very slow reverse
  • Shells have no HE filler
  • Weak side armour

History

Prompt

The early combat experience of the Churchill infantry tank raised concerns on its reliability and speed, with a suggestion that production be halted while development focus on an "universal tank" for the British armoured forces to replace the cruiser and infantry tanks. However, until such a design could be formulated, they still needed a tank for the assault role the infantry tanks would take.

Rolls-Royce Company, the company producing the prototype A27 Cromwells, suggested that the Tank Board use the A27 as an interim design with stronger armour, suspension, and armament. The suggestion was supported with the English Electric Company, whom plan to upgrade the A27 with thicker armour and elements from the American M6 heavy tank.

Development and Cancellation

On 07 May 1942[1], Tank Board approved for the production of these uparmoured A27 under the designation A33, though it would also have the name Excelsior. English Electric Company were in charge of producing the uparmoured A27 models and produced two prototypes. The first had the M6 suspension system and a 6-pdr cannon. The second had a wider track, different armoured skirts, additional frontal armour, and a 75 mm gun. Both used the same V12 Meteor engine as the A27.

Reliability issues with the Churchill were soon ironed out by 1943, to the point it became a very successful infantry support vehicle and multiple variations were made based off the chassis. The A33 Excelsior, meant to replace the Churchill, was no longer needed and the project was dropped in 1943.

Today, the second prototype can be seen at the Bovington Tank Museum.

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Britain heavy tanks
Matilda  Matilda III · Matilda Hedgehog
Churchill  Churchill I · Churchill III · Churchill VII · Churchill Crocodile · Churchill NA75 · Black Prince
Post-war  Caernarvon · Conqueror
Other  Independent · Excelsior · TOG II

Britain premium ground vehicles
Light tanks  A13 Mk I (3rd R.T.R.) · A13 Mk II 1939 · AEC Mk II · Crusader "The Saint" · Rooikat 105
Medium tanks  A.C.I · Grant I · Cromwell V (RP-3) · Sherman IC "Trzyniec" · A.C.IV · Comet I "Iron Duke IV"
  Centurion Mk.2 · ▄Strv 81 (RB 52) · Centurion Mk.5 AVRE · Centurion Mk.5/1 · ▄Sho't Kal Dalet · Centurion Action X
  Vijayanta · Khalid · Challenger DS · Challenger 2 OES
Heavy tanks  Independent · Matilda Hedgehog · Excelsior · TOG II · Churchill Crocodile · Black Prince
Tank destroyers  Alecto I · Achilles (65 Rg.) · QF 3.7 Ram

  1. ↑ Newsome, Bruce. "TANK INFANTRY A38, VALIANT (E1952.39)." Tankmuseum.org. The Tank Museum, n.d. Web. 10 May 2017. Website
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