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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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''The mg 151/20 was made by converting the [[MG 151/15 (15 mm)]] to fire the larger 20mm round to get a lower velocity explosive ammo''
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*''Note: Gunpods containing {{PAGENAME}} have reduced accuracy compared to those mounted conventionally''
  
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
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{{Navigation-Start|Vehicles equipped with this weapon}}
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{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Fighters'''}}
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{{Navigation-Line|Bf 109 F}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109f-4}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109f-4_trop}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109f-4_usa}}
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{{Navigation-Line|Bf 109 G}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109g-2}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109g-2_romania}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109g-6}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109g-10}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109g-14}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109g-14as}}
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{{Navigation-Line|Bf 109 K}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109k-4}}&nbsp;(Suspended)
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{{Navigation-Line|Fw 190 A}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190a-4}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190a-5}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190a-5_cannons}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190a-5_japan}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190a-5_u2}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190a-8}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190a-8_france}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190a-8_usa}}
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{{Navigation-Line|Fw 190 C/D/F}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190c}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190d-9}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190d-9_ussr}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190d-12}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190d-13}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190f-8}}
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{{Navigation-Line|G.55/56}}{{Specs-Link|g_55_serie1}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|g_55_serie1_ss0}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|g_55s}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|g_56}}
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{{Navigation-Line|C.202/205}}{{Specs-Link|mc-202_ec}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mc-205_n2}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mc-205_serie3}}
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{{Navigation-Line|Ta 152}}{{Specs-Link|ta-152c}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|ta-152h-1}}
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{{Navigation-Line|Other}}{{Specs-Link|iar_81c}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|ki_61_1a_hei}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|re_2001_cn}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|so_8000_narval}}
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{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Twin-engine fighters'''}}
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{{Navigation-Line|Bf 110}}{{Specs-Link|bf-110f-2}}&nbsp;(Suspended){{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-110g-2}}&nbsp;(Suspended)
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{{Navigation-Line|Do 17}}{{Specs-Link|do_17z_7}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|do_217n_1}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|do_217n_2}}
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{{Navigation-Line|Do 335}}{{Specs-Link|do_335a_0}}&nbsp;(Suspended){{-}}{{Specs-Link|do_335b_2}}
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{{Navigation-Line|He 219}}{{Specs-Link|he_219a_7}}
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{{Navigation-Line|Me 410 A}}{{Specs-Link|me-410a-1}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|me-410a-1_u2}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|me-410a-1_u4}}
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{{Navigation-Line|Me 410 B}}{{Specs-Link|me-410b-1}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|me-410b-1_u2}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|me-410b-2_u4}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|me-410b-6_r3}}
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{{Navigation-Line|Ju 388}}{{Specs-Link|ju-388j}}
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{{Navigation-Line|Ta 154}}{{Specs-Link|ta_154a_1}}
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{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Jet fighters'''}}{{Specs-Link|he-162a-2}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|me-163b-0}}
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{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Attackers'''}}{{Specs-Link|hs-129b-2}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|hs-129b-2_romania}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|hs-129b-2_romania_italy|▄Hs 129 B-2 (Romania)}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|sm_91}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|sm_92}}
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{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Bombers'''}}{{Specs-Link|bv-238}}&nbsp;(Defensive){{-}}{{Specs-Link|do_217e_2}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|do_217e_4}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|he-177a-5}}&nbsp;(Defensive){{-}}{{Specs-Link|ju-87d-5}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|ju-288c}}&nbsp;(Defensive){{-}}{{Specs-Link|mb_175t}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|me_264}}&nbsp;(Defensive)
  
== General info ==
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{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Jet bombers'''}}{{Specs-Link|arado-234c-3}}
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=== Available shells ===
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{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Heavy tanks'''}}{{Specs-Link|fr_amx_50_surblinde}}
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=== Comparison with analogues ===
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{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Tank destroyers'''}}{{Specs-Link|fr_lorraine_155}}
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== Usage in the battles ==
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{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Torpedo boats'''}}{{Specs-Link|germ_ls4_class}}
''This weapon is very dangerous to air target, due to Minengeschoß ''shell. arguably the best 20mm cannon against air target at its tier
 
  
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
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== General info ==
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''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''
  
A LOT OF HE DAMAGE cuz ''Minengeschoß'' shell(an improved HEI shell), very good at killing aircraft
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=== Available ammunition ===
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larger ammo count compare to other German 20mm cannon
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* Default: IT/IT/APHE/HEI
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* Universal: IT/HEI/HEI/AP-I
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* Air Targets: AP-I/HEI/HEI/HEI/HEI/IT
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* Armored Targets: APHE/APHE/APHE/IT
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* Tracers: FI-T/FI-T/FI-T/IT/IT
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* Stealth: HEI/HEI/HEI/APHE/AP-I
  
higher muzzle velocity than other German 20mm cannon
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=== Comparison with analogues ===
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* [[M2HB (12.7 mm)]]
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* [[KPVT (14.5 mm)]]
  
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== Usage in battles ==
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This weapon is very dangerous to air targets due to the ''minengeschoß'' shell, which makes the MG 151/20 arguably the best 20 mm cannon against air targets. Unless other ammunition is needed for a specific reason, always choose the ammo belt with most ''minengeschoß'' available.
  
'''Cons:'''
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=== Pros and cons ===
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still lower muzzle velocity compare to most machine gun
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;Pros:
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* ''Minengeschoß'' shell (an improved HEI shell) provides a lot of hitting power against aircraft
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* Larger ammo count than the other German 20 mm cannons
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* Higher muzzle velocity than the other German 20 mm cannons
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* Faster firing and less prone to jamming than the Allied Mk. II Hispano variants
  
ineffective against armored ground target
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;Cons:
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* Still lower muzzle velocity compared to most machine guns
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* Ineffective against armoured ground targets, even with APHE shells
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* Tracer and HEI (''minengeschoß'') have slightly different trajectories which reiterate knowing your ammunition
  
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== History ==
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Converted from a 15mm firing [[MG 151/15 (15 mm)]] to a 20mm firing after combat evaluation proved a larger high explosive to be more effective than a high-velocity shell.
  
== Historical part ==
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Interestingly enough a large shipment of 800 guns was lend-leased to japan using the Italian submarine ''Comandante Cappellini arming 388 Japanese [[Ki-61-I hei]] fighter planes.''
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
 
''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
  
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== See also ==
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* The mg 151/20 was made by converting the [[MG 151/15 (15 mm)]] to fire the larger 20 mm round
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* ''topic on the official game forum''
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
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* ''page on aircraft or gorund forces encyclopedia''
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* ''other literature.''
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[[Category:Aircraft cannons]]
 
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[[Category:Tank cannons]]
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[[Category:Naval cannons]]

Revision as of 14:42, 14 August 2019

Description

The mg 151/20 was made by converting the MG 151/15 (15 mm) to fire the larger 20mm round to get a lower velocity explosive ammo

  • Note: Gunpods containing MG 151 (20 mm) have reduced accuracy compared to those mounted conventionally

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

Vehicles equipped with this weapon
Fighters 
Bf 109 F  Bf 109 F-4 · Bf 109 F-4/trop · ▃Bf 109 F-4
Bf 109 G  Bf 109 G-2/trop · Bf 109 G-2 · Bf 109 G-6 · Bf 109 G-10 · Bf 109 G-14 · ▄Bf 109 G-14/AS
Bf 109 K  Bf 109 K-4 (Suspended)
Fw 190 A  Fw 190 A-4 · Fw 190 A-5 · Fw 190 A-5 · ▅Fw 190 A-5 · Fw 190 A-5/U2 · Fw 190 A-8 · NC.900 · ▃Fw 190 A-8
Fw 190 C/D/F  Fw 190 C · Fw 190 D-9 · ▂Fw 190 D-9 · Fw 190 D-12 · Fw 190 D-13 · Fw 190 F-8
G.55/56  G.55 serie 1 · G.55 sottoserie 0 · G.55S · G.56
C.202/205  C. 202EC · C. 205N2 · C. 205 serie 3
Ta 152  Ta 152 C-3 · Ta 152 H-1
Other  IAR-81C · Ki-61-I hei · Re.2001 CN · S.O.8000 Narval
Twin-engine fighters 
Bf 110  Bf 110 F-2 (Suspended) · Bf 110 G-2 (Suspended)
Do 17  Do 17 Z-7 · Do 217 N-1 · Do 217 N-2
Do 335  Do 335 A-0 (Suspended) · Do 335 B-2
He 219  He 219 A-7
Me 410 A  Me 410 A-1 · Me 410 A-1/U2 · Me 410 A-1/U4
Me 410 B  Me 410 B-1 · Me 410 B-1/U2 · Me 410 B-2/U4 · Me 410 B-6/R3
Ju 388  Ju 388 J
Ta 154  Ta 154 A-1
Jet fighters  He 162 A-2 · Me 163 B-0
Attackers  Hs 129 B-2 · Hs 129 B-2 (Romania) · ▄Hs 129 B-2 (Romania) · SM.91 · SM.92
Bombers  BV 238 (Defensive) · Do 217 E-2 · Do 217 E-4 · He 177 A-5 (Defensive) · Ju 87 D-5 · Ju 288 C (Defensive) · M.B.175T · Me 264 (Defensive)
Jet bombers  Ar 234 C-3
Heavy tanks  AMX-50 Surblindé
Tank destroyers  Lorraine 155 Mle.50
Torpedo boats  LS 4 Esau

General info

Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.

Available ammunition

  • Default: IT/IT/APHE/HEI
  • Universal: IT/HEI/HEI/AP-I
  • Air Targets: AP-I/HEI/HEI/HEI/HEI/IT
  • Armored Targets: APHE/APHE/APHE/IT
  • Tracers: FI-T/FI-T/FI-T/IT/IT
  • Stealth: HEI/HEI/HEI/APHE/AP-I

Comparison with analogues

Usage in battles

This weapon is very dangerous to air targets due to the minengeschoß shell, which makes the MG 151/20 arguably the best 20 mm cannon against air targets. Unless other ammunition is needed for a specific reason, always choose the ammo belt with most minengeschoß available.

Pros and cons

Pros
  • Minengeschoß shell (an improved HEI shell) provides a lot of hitting power against aircraft
  • Larger ammo count than the other German 20 mm cannons
  • Higher muzzle velocity than the other German 20 mm cannons
  • Faster firing and less prone to jamming than the Allied Mk. II Hispano variants
Cons
  • Still lower muzzle velocity compared to most machine guns
  • Ineffective against armoured ground targets, even with APHE shells
  • Tracer and HEI (minengeschoß) have slightly different trajectories which reiterate knowing your ammunition

History

Converted from a 15mm firing MG 151/15 (15 mm) to a 20mm firing after combat evaluation proved a larger high explosive to be more effective than a high-velocity shell.

Interestingly enough a large shipment of 800 guns was lend-leased to japan using the Italian submarine Comandante Cappellini arming 388 Japanese Ki-61-I hei fighter planes.

Media

An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

See also

  • The mg 151/20 was made by converting the MG 151/15 (15 mm) to fire the larger 20 mm round

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the weapon;
  • other literature.


USA aircraft cannons
20 mm  AN/M2 · Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 0 · Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 · FMC T-160
  M3 · M24A1 · M39 · M39A1 · M39A2 · M39A3 · M61A1 · M195 · M197 · Mk 11 · Mk 11 mod 5 · T31
30 mm  M230E-1 · XM140 · GAU-8/A · GAU-13/A · LR30
37 mm  M4 · M9 · M10
40 mm  M75 · M129
75 mm  M10 · T13E1
  Foreign:
20 mm  Hispano 404 (France) · Hispano Mk.II (Britain) · MG 151 (Germany) · Type 99 Model 1 (Japan)
30 mm  ADEN Mk.4 (Britain)

Germany aircraft cannons
15 mm  MG 151
20 mm  MG 151 · MG C/30L · MG FF · MG FF/M
27 mm  Mauser BK27
30 mm  MK 101 · MK 103 · MK 108
37 mm  BK 3.7
50 mm  BK 5 · Mk.214a
75 mm  BK 7.5
  Foreign:
20 mm  Hispano Mk.V (Britain) · M24A1 (USA) · M61A1 (USA) · ShVAK (USSR)
23 mm  GSh-23L (USSR) · NR-23 (USSR) · VYa-23 (USSR)
30 mm  DEFA 552 (France) · GSh-30-1 (USSR) · GSh-30-2K (USSR) · NR-30 (USSR)
37 mm  N-37D (USSR)

USSR aircraft cannons
20 mm  B-20E · B-20M · B-20S · ShVAK
23 mm  GSh-23L · NR-23 · NS-23 · NS-23K · PTB-23 · VYa-23
30 mm  2A42 · GSh-6-30 · GSh-30-1 · GSh-30-2 · GSh-30-2K · NR-30
37 mm  N-37 · N-37D · NS-37 · SH-37
45 mm  NS-45
  Foreign:
20 mm  Hispano Mk.II (Britain) · MG 151 (Germany)
37 mm  M4 (USA) · M10 (USA)

Japan aircraft cannons
20 mm  Ho-1 · Ho-3 · Ho-5 · Type 99 Model 1 · Type 99 Model 2
30 mm  Ho-155 · Type 5
37 mm  Ho-203 · Ho-204 · Type 94
40 mm  Ho-301
57 mm  Ho-401
75 mm  Type 88
  Foreign:
20 mm  M39A3 (USA) · M61A1 (USA) · M197 (USA) · MG FF (Germany) · MG FF/M (Germany) · MG 151 (Germany)
30 mm  GAU-13/A (USA) · M230E-1 (USA)

Italy aircraft cannons
20 mm  TM197B
30 mm  Hispano HS 825
37 mm  Breda Model 39 37/54
102 mm  102/35 mod 14
  Foreign:
20 mm  B-20E (USSR) · B-20M (USSR) · B-20S (USSR) · Hispano 404 (France) · Hispano Mk.II (Britain) · Hispano Mk.V (Britain) · M24A1 (USA) · M61A1 (USA) · MG 151 (Germany) · MG FF (Germany) · MG FF/M (Germany) · ShVAK (USSR)
23 mm  GSh-23L (USSR) · NR-23 (USSR) · NS-23 (USSR)
27 mm  Akan m/85 (Sweden) · Mauser BK27 (Germany)
30 mm  DEFA 552 (France) · GSh-30-1 (USSR) · GSh-30-2K (USSR) · MK 103 (Germany) · MK 108 (Germany) · NR-30 (USSR)
37 mm  BK 3.7 (Germany) · N-37 (USSR) · N-37D (USSR)

France aircraft cannons
20 mm  GIAT M.621 · Hispano 404 · Hispano HS.9 · M50
30 mm  DEFA 541 · DEFA 551 · DEFA 552 · DEFA 552A · DEFA 553 · DEFA 554 · GIAT M781
  Foreign:
20 mm  AN/M2 (USA) · Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 (USA) · Hispano Mk.II (Britain) · M3 (USA) · M24A1 (USA) · M39A1 (USA) · MG 151 (Germany) · ShVAK (USSR)
37 mm  M4 (USA) · M10 (USA) · NS-37 (USSR)

France tank cannons
20 mm  20F2
25 mm  SA35 L/72
37 mm  SA18 L/21 · SA38 L/33
47 mm  SA34 L/30 · SA35 L/32 · SA37
75 mm  APX · APX Canon de 75 mm modèle 1897 · SA35 L/17 · SA44 · SA49 · SA50 L/57
90 mm  D.911 APX · CN90 F2 · CN90 F3 · CN90 F4 · D915 · DEFA F1 · SA45 · SA47
100 mm  SA47 L/58
105 mm  CN-105-F1 · Modele F2 · PzK M57
120 mm  GIAT CN120-25 G1 · GIAT CN120-26 F1 · SA46
142 mm  ACRA
155 mm  GCT F1 · Schneider 155 C · L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950
  Foreign:
15 mm  MG 151 (Germany)
20 mm  MG 151 (Germany)
30 mm  Bushmaster 2 Mk.44 (USA)
37 mm  M6 (USA)
40 mm  Bofors L/60 · QF 2-pounder (Britain)
75 mm  KwK42 (Germany) · M3 (USA) · M6 (USA)
76 mm  M7 (USA)
90 mm  M3 (USA)
105 mm  M4 (USA)

Germany naval cannons
15 mm  MG 151
20 mm  2 cm/65 C/30 · 2 cm/65 C/38 · 2 cm/65 Flakzwilling 38 · 2 cm/65 Flakvierling 38 · MG 151/20
30 mm  MK103/38
37 mm  FlaK-Lafette C/36 · 3.7 cm FlaK-Lafette LM/42 · SK C/30 · FlaK.36 · FlaK43
40 mm  40 mm/70 MEL58 · Bofors Flak 28 · Bofors L/70 model 1948
52 mm  52 mm/55 SK L/55
88 mm  8.8 cm/76 SK C/32 · S.K.C/35 · FlaK.18 · Flak.36 · 88 mm/45 AA SK L/45 · 88 mm/45 casemate SK L/45
100 mm  100 mm/55 MLE model 53
105 mm  SK C/32 · SK C/33 AA
120 mm  L45
128 mm  12.8 cm/45 SK C/34
150 mm  150 mm/45 SK L/45 · 15 cm/48 KC/36 · 15 cm/55 SK C/28 · 15 cm/60 SK C/25
203 mm  20.3 cm/60 SK C/34
283 mm  283 mm/45 SK L/45 · 283 mm/52 SK C/28 · 283 mm/54,5 SK C/34
305 mm  305 mm/50 SK L/50
380 mm  38 cm SK L/45
  Foreign:
23 mm  ZU-23 (USSR)
30 mm  AK-230 (USSR)
37 mm  V-11 (USSR)
76 mm  76 mm/62 OTO-Melara Compact (Italy)
100 mm  100 mm/56 B-34 (USSR)