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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_M.D.452IIC.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]].
  
[[File:GarageImage_M.D.452IIC.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating|1}}. This aircraft was introduced in [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]].
 
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
=== Flight Performance ===
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=== Flight performance ===
<!--''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, maneuverability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''-->
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<!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
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The MD.452 IIC is something of a jack of all trades. Its flight performance is balanced, if a bit slow to accelerate. The roll rate is excellent at medium to high speeds (550 - 900 km/h), giving the aircraft many options for evasive manoeuvres, and although energy-bleeding, the turn rate is good against most enemies. The two fast-firing 30 mm DEFA canons also compose tremendous firepower, if used with suitable ammunition.
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="8" | Characteristics
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - at sea level)
|-
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
|-
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at ?,000 m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
 
|-
 
|-
! AB
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
 
|-
 
|-
| ? || ? || ?,000 || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ???
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! Stock
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| 1,035 || 1,027 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 26.3 || 26.9 || 32.9 || 31.1 || rowspan="2" | 800
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
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! Upgraded
|-
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| ??? || 1,044 || ??.? || 24.8 || ??.? || 40.0
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at ?,000 m)
 
! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
 
|-
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
|-
 
| ? || ? || ?,000 || ??.? || ??.? || ?.? || ?.? || ?
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
====Details====
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==== Details ====
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
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! colspan="6" | Features
 
|-
 
|-
! Combat flap
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
! Take-off flap
 
! Landing flap
 
! Air brakes
 
! Arrestor gear
 
 
|-
 
|-
| X || X || X || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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| || || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="5" | Limits
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! colspan="7" | Limits
 
|-
 
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
|-
 
|-
! +
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
! -
 
 
|-
 
|-
| ??? || ??? || ??? || ~?? || ~?
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 650 || 650 || 450 || ~11 || ~5
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
 
|-
 
|-
! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
! Rudder<br>(km/h)
 
! Elevators<br>(km/h)
 
! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
 
|-
 
|-
| < ??? || < ??? || < ??? || > ???
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| < 620 || < 700 || < 740 || N/A
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
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==== Engine performance ====
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
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! colspan="3" | Engine
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! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
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! colspan="2" | Empty mass || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
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| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 101D3 ||  1
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| colspan="2" | 5,900 kg || colspan="2" | 241 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 
|-
 
|-
! Optimal altitude
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! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! 100% Engine power
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! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br />Weight
! WEP Engine power
 
 
|-
 
|-
| ?,??? m || ??? hp || ?,??? hp
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! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
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! 7m fuel || 20m fuel || 24m fuel
 
|-
 
|-
<!--! colspan="3" | Setting 2
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| 1,050 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
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| 6,308 kg || 7,067 kg || 7,300 kg || 10,500 kg
 
|-
 
|-
! Optimal altitude
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! 100% Engine power
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! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
! WEP Engine power
 
 
|-
 
|-
| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
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! Condition || 100% || WEP
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! 7m fuel || 20m fuel || 24m fuel || MTOW
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
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| ''Stationary'' || 2,911 kgf || N/A
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| 0.46 || 0.41 || 0.40 || 0.28
 
|-
 
|-
! Optimal altitude
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| ''Optimal'' || 3,178 kgf<br />(1,100 km/h) || N/A
! 100% Engine power
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| 0.46 || 0.41 || 0.40 || 0.28
! WEP Engine power
 
 
|-
 
|-
| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
 
|- -->
 
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* 40 mm Bulletproof glass in front of pilot
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* 13.5 mm Steel plate around bottom of the cockpit, front and rear
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* 40 mm Bulletproof glass in front of the pilot
* 13.5 mm Steel plate behind pilot
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* 13.5 mm Steel plate around the bottom of the cockpit, front and rear
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* 13.5 mm Steel plate behind the pilot
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|DEFA 541 (30 mm)}}
 
{{main|DEFA 541 (30 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 541 cannons, nose-mounted (150 RPG) = 300 total)
 
  
The two cannons are arranged in the belly portion of the fuselage exiting the aircraft just before the pilot's location. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that both guns will fire with each other until empty.
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* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 541 cannons, belly-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
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The two cannons are arranged in the belly portion of the fuselage exiting the aircraft just behind the pilot's location. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that both guns will fire together until empty.
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This aircraft is the first of the French jets to use 30 mm DEFA canons, which are (as of Update 1.95) the best 30 mm guns in the game, with the highest shell velocity, rate of fire, and gun reliability. While the default ammunition is underwhelming, the "air targets" ammunition will shred enemy fighters with a single or a couple of shells. Heavier targets might need 3-5 hits to loose a wing.
  
=== Suspended armament===
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=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb)|SNEB Type 23}}
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{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb)|SNEB type 23}}
  
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' utilize external pylons to carry various configurations of:
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
  
* None
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* Without load
* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs
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* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs
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* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
 
* 38 x SNEB type 23 rockets
 
* 38 x SNEB type 23 rockets
  
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=== Defensive armament ===
 
''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available remove this subsection.''
 
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== Usage in the battles ==
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== Usage in battles ==
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The M.D.452 IIC offers better ordinance than it's earlier in-game variant, the IIA. This makes it more effective in Tank RB and allows use as a fighter-bomber in Air RB. It is generally more maneuverable than most other 9.0 aircraft it faces, the only ones you would have a tough time turning with at this BR would be any of the Sabres. Since its roll is comparable to the Sabre's once the "New Boosters" modification is installed, it opens up the playing field a bit more.
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The {{PAGENAME}} is generally more manoeuvrable than most other contemporary aircraft it faces, the only ones you would have a tough time turning with at this battle rating would be any of the Sabres. Since its roll rate is comparable to the Sabre's once the "New Boosters" modification is installed, the option of turnfighting becomes available, although speed will be bled at a relatively high rate. Still, like the predecessors of the Mystère II, boom & zooming should remain the first choice in engagements. Control stiffening doesn't appear under around 1,000-1,050 km/h, and devastating armament will take out an enemy target in a single pass. Furthermore, top speed in level flight is slightly below average, justifying even more that tactic.
  
===Manual Engine Control===
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Overall, the Mystère IIC should be considered as buffed Ouragan/Barougan, increasing drastically the top speed, armament, and manoeuvrability parameters.
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
 
|-
 
! rowspan="2" |Mixer
 
! rowspan="2" |Pitch
 
! colspan="3" |Radiator
 
! rowspan="2" |Supercharger
 
! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger
 
|-
 
! Oil
 
! Water
 
! Type
 
|-
 
| Not controllable || Controllable<br>Automatic pitch || Controllable || Not controllable || Combined || Controllable || Not controllable
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
  
===Modules===
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=== Modules ===
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
! Tier
 
! Tier
! Flight performance
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! colspan="2" | Flight performance
 
! Survivability
 
! Survivability
! Weaponry
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! colspan="2" | Weaponry
 
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| IA
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| I
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| Fuselage repair
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|
|  
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| Offensive 30 mm
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|-
 
|-
 
| II
 
| II
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| New boosters
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| Compressor
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| Airframe
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|
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| SBC-17
 
|-
 
|-
 
| III
 
| III
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| Wings repair
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| Engine
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| New 30 mm cannons
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| LBC-25
 
|-
 
|-
 
| IV
 
| IV
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| G-suit
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|
|  
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| Cover
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| Matra SNEB
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
* Excellent armarment of 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons (higher muzzle velocity and RoF than the ADEN cannon)
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* Excellent armament of 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons (higher muzzle velocity and RoF than the ADEN cannon)
 
* High roll rate, matches the Sabre's roll rate with "New boosters" modification installed
 
* High roll rate, matches the Sabre's roll rate with "New boosters" modification installed
* Descent climb rate
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* Good turn rate between 550 kph and 800 kph
* Effective energy retention
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* Decent climb rate
 
* Payloads can include bombs or rockets
 
* Payloads can include bombs or rockets
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* More effective air brake than its predecessors
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* A lot of ammo for only 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons
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* Guns being mounted under the nose makes it easy to head on planes upside down
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* DEFA cannons can easily down a plane with 1 to 3 HE rounds striking
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
* Slow compared to other 9.0 aircraft
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* Fragile; a few hits of enemy fire will make controlling the aircraft more difficult
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* Slightly slower to other contemporary aircraft
* Low ammo amount; ammo trigger discipline is required
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* Poor horizontal energy retention compared to its predecessors
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* Fragile; a few hits of enemy fire will make controlling the aircraft more difficult, forcing a return to base for repairs
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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{{Youtube-gallery|fa1_8SqJcT0|'''The Shooting Range #97''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 06:04 discusses the Dassault Mystère II.}}
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== See also ==
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''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
  
== Read also ==
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
 
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
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== External links ==
 
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* ''other literature.''
  
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This page is about the French jet fighter M.D.452 IIC. For the other version, see M.D.452 IIA.

Description

GarageImage M.D.452 IIC.jpg


The M.D.452 Mystere IIC pre-production is a rank V French jet fighter with a battle rating of 8.7 (AB/SB) and 8.3 (RB). It was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm".

General info

Flight performance

The MD.452 IIC is something of a jack of all trades. Its flight performance is balanced, if a bit slow to accelerate. The roll rate is excellent at medium to high speeds (550 - 900 km/h), giving the aircraft many options for evasive manoeuvres, and although energy-bleeding, the turn rate is good against most enemies. The two fast-firing 30 mm DEFA canons also compose tremendous firepower, if used with suitable ammunition.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - at sea level)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,035 1,027 13000 26.3 26.9 32.9 31.1 800
Upgraded  ??? 1,044  ??.? 24.8  ??.? 40.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1108 450 650 650 450 ~11 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 620 < 700 < 740 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Empty mass Wing loading (full fuel)
SNECMA Atar 101D3 1 5,900 kg 241 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 7m fuel 20m fuel 24m fuel
1,050 kg Axial-flow turbojet 6,308 kg 7,067 kg 7,300 kg 10,500 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 7m fuel 20m fuel 24m fuel MTOW
Stationary 2,911 kgf N/A 0.46 0.41 0.40 0.28
Optimal 3,178 kgf
(1,100 km/h)
N/A 0.46 0.41 0.40 0.28

Survivability and armour

  • 40 mm Bulletproof glass in front of the pilot
  • 13.5 mm Steel plate around the bottom of the cockpit, front and rear
  • 13.5 mm Steel plate behind the pilot

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: DEFA 541 (30 mm)

The M.D.452 IIC is armed with:

  • 2 x 30 mm DEFA 541 cannons, belly-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)

The two cannons are arranged in the belly portion of the fuselage exiting the aircraft just behind the pilot's location. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that both guns will fire together until empty.

This aircraft is the first of the French jets to use 30 mm DEFA canons, which are (as of Update 1.95) the best 30 mm guns in the game, with the highest shell velocity, rate of fire, and gun reliability. While the default ammunition is underwhelming, the "air targets" ammunition will shred enemy fighters with a single or a couple of shells. Heavier targets might need 3-5 hits to loose a wing.

Suspended armament

The M.D.452 IIC can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 38 x SNEB type 23 rockets

The ordnance of the M.D.452 IIC gives it the ability to engage ground targets, but limits its manoeuvrability greatly and should generally not be used in Air RB except as a late game last resort. In mixed battles, the SNEB rockets can be an excellent anti-tank weapon for CAS, and the aircraft inserts well in the French BR 8.3 line-up.

Usage in battles

The M.D.452 IIC is generally more manoeuvrable than most other contemporary aircraft it faces, the only ones you would have a tough time turning with at this battle rating would be any of the Sabres. Since its roll rate is comparable to the Sabre's once the "New Boosters" modification is installed, the option of turnfighting becomes available, although speed will be bled at a relatively high rate. Still, like the predecessors of the Mystère II, boom & zooming should remain the first choice in engagements. Control stiffening doesn't appear under around 1,000-1,050 km/h, and devastating armament will take out an enemy target in a single pass. Furthermore, top speed in level flight is slightly below average, justifying even more that tactic.

Overall, the Mystère IIC should be considered as buffed Ouragan/Barougan, increasing drastically the top speed, armament, and manoeuvrability parameters.

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Offensive 30 mm
II New boosters Compressor Airframe SBC-17
III Wings repair Engine New 30 mm cannons LBC-25
IV G-suit Cover Matra SNEB

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Excellent armament of 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons (higher muzzle velocity and RoF than the ADEN cannon)
  • High roll rate, matches the Sabre's roll rate with "New boosters" modification installed
  • Good turn rate between 550 kph and 800 kph
  • Decent climb rate
  • Payloads can include bombs or rockets
  • More effective air brake than its predecessors
  • A lot of ammo for only 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons
  • Guns being mounted under the nose makes it easy to head on planes upside down
  • DEFA cannons can easily down a plane with 1 to 3 HE rounds striking

Cons:

  • Slightly slower to other contemporary aircraft
  • Poor horizontal energy retention compared to its predecessors
  • Fragile; a few hits of enemy fire will make controlling the aircraft more difficult, forcing a return to base for repairs

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