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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight Performance ===
 
=== Flight Performance ===
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The MD.452 IIA is something of a jack of all trades, while less potent in nearly every aspect than the MD.452 IIC. Its flight performances are balanced, if a bit slow in accelerations. The roll rate is excellent at medium to high speeds (550 - 900 km/h), giving the aircraft many options for evasive maneuvers, and although energy-bleeding, the turn rate is good against most enemies. This version carries a cluster of four 20mm M50 canons, which fare moderately at this BR.
  
 
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* 4 x 20 mm M50 cannons, chin-mounted (125 rpg = 500 total)
 
* 4 x 20 mm M50 cannons, chin-mounted (125 rpg = 500 total)
  
The four machine guns are clustered on the underside of the fuselage, directly below the pilot. Each are armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire with together until empty.
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The four machine guns are clustered on the underside of the fuselage, directly below the pilot. Each are armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire together until empty.
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Like all french aircrafts of all BR, the default ammunition belt is extremely underwhelming, with "practice rounds" representing 25% of the belt composition. As such, the research of the newer sets of ammo belts should be prioritized. Once upgraded, the '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' will still struggle to destroy an enemy plane in a single pass, but each hitting burst is decisive, as the rounds are potent enough to severely damage the engine/controls/wing surface and mission-kill adversaries.
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is generally more maneuvrable than most other contemporary aircraft it faces, the only ones you would have a tough time turning with at this battle rating would be any of the Sabres. Since its roll rate is comparable to the Sabre's once the "New Boosters" modification is installed, the option of turnfighting becomes available, although speed will be bled at a relatively high rate. Still, like the predecessors of the Mystère II, boom & zooming should remain the first choice in engagements, but unlike the MD.452 IIC, the this aircraft's engine is slightly less powerfull, and one or two minutes of sideclimb might be necessary to remain in control of the engagment situation. Commands stiffening doesn't appear under around 1,000-1,050 km/h, and subtle use of airbrakes will be necessary to ensure control during the whole descent.
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Overall, the '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' should be considered as a second line fighter, and fares better when paired with support. Another, secondary role can be as a harasser, BnZing many different enemies, to damage them, and go around later for another decisive pass, or even letting allies finish off the disabled foes.
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It could be argued that the MD.452 IIA has no advantage over it's newer version, the MD.452 IIC, wich seats at the same rank, and the same BR.
  
 
=== Manual Engine Control ===
 
=== Manual Engine Control ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
* Good turn rate between 550 km/h and 800 km/h
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* Good turn rate between 550 km/h and 900 km/h
 
* Decent climb rate
 
* Decent climb rate
 
* Strong and effective flaps
 
* Strong and effective flaps
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* Quite nice when downtiered in battles
 
* Quite nice when downtiered in battles
 
* Guns equipped with belts other than the stock option can quickly down or critically damage the opponent
 
* Guns equipped with belts other than the stock option can quickly down or critically damage the opponent
* With all modifications, can deal with MiG 15 and Sabres, but these interceptors are still superior
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* With all modifications, can deal with MiG-15 and Sabres, but these interceptors are still superior
 
* Easy to fly and land with a ripped wingtip or even whole wing  
 
* Easy to fly and land with a ripped wingtip or even whole wing  
  

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This page is about the French jet fighter M.D.452 IIA. For the other version, see M.D.452 IIC.

Description

GarageImage MD.452IIA.jpg


The M.D.452 Mystere IIA is a rank V French jet fighter with a battle rating of 8.3 (AB/SB) and 8.0 (RB). It was introduced in Update 1.73 "Vive la France".

General info

Flight Performance

The MD.452 IIA is something of a jack of all trades, while less potent in nearly every aspect than the MD.452 IIC. Its flight performances are balanced, if a bit slow in accelerations. The roll rate is excellent at medium to high speeds (550 - 900 km/h), giving the aircraft many options for evasive maneuvers, and although energy-bleeding, the turn rate is good against most enemies. This version carries a cluster of four 20mm M50 canons, which fare moderately at this BR.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - at sea level)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
992 962 13000 26.5 27.0 30.4 28.9 800
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - at sea level)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
1,040 1,030 13000 23.8 25 44.3 37 800

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flaps
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
650 ~11 ~5
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 620 < 700 < 740 N/A
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
0 m 2,800 kgf N/A

Survivability and armour

  • 40 mm Bulletproof glass in front of pilot.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: M50 (20 mm)

The M.D.452 IIA is armed with:

  • 4 x 20 mm M50 cannons, chin-mounted (125 rpg = 500 total)

The four machine guns are clustered on the underside of the fuselage, directly below the pilot. Each are armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire together until empty.

Like all french aircrafts of all BR, the default ammunition belt is extremely underwhelming, with "practice rounds" representing 25% of the belt composition. As such, the research of the newer sets of ammo belts should be prioritized. Once upgraded, the M.D.452 IIA will still struggle to destroy an enemy plane in a single pass, but each hitting burst is decisive, as the rounds are potent enough to severely damage the engine/controls/wing surface and mission-kill adversaries.

Usage in battles

The M.D.452 IIA is generally more maneuvrable than most other contemporary aircraft it faces, the only ones you would have a tough time turning with at this battle rating would be any of the Sabres. Since its roll rate is comparable to the Sabre's once the "New Boosters" modification is installed, the option of turnfighting becomes available, although speed will be bled at a relatively high rate. Still, like the predecessors of the Mystère II, boom & zooming should remain the first choice in engagements, but unlike the MD.452 IIC, the this aircraft's engine is slightly less powerfull, and one or two minutes of sideclimb might be necessary to remain in control of the engagment situation. Commands stiffening doesn't appear under around 1,000-1,050 km/h, and subtle use of airbrakes will be necessary to ensure control during the whole descent.

Overall, the M.D.452 IIA should be considered as a second line fighter, and fares better when paired with support. Another, secondary role can be as a harasser, BnZing many different enemies, to damage them, and go around later for another decisive pass, or even letting allies finish off the disabled foes.

It could be argued that the MD.452 IIA has no advantage over it's newer version, the MD.452 IIC, wich seats at the same rank, and the same BR.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Not controllable
Not auto controlled
Not controllable
Not auto controlled
Not controllable
Not auto controlled
Combined Not controllable
1 gear
Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Offensive 20 mm
II New boosters Compressor Airframe
III Wings repair Engine New 20 mm cannons
IV G-suit Cover

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good turn rate between 550 km/h and 900 km/h
  • Decent climb rate
  • Strong and effective flaps
  • Nose-mounted 20mm guns
  • Good ammo choices (besides "Default" one)
  • Quite nice when downtiered in battles
  • Guns equipped with belts other than the stock option can quickly down or critically damage the opponent
  • With all modifications, can deal with MiG-15 and Sabres, but these interceptors are still superior
  • Easy to fly and land with a ripped wingtip or even whole wing

Cons:

  • "Default" ammunition belt is underperforming for the rank
  • Stock performance is lacking
  • Slow compared to other contemporary aircraft
  • Poor horizontal energy retention compared to its predecessors
  • Fragile; a few hits of enemy fire will make controlling the aircraft more difficult
  • 500 bullets so some practise in needed
  • Nearly no armour, pilot knockouts are really common
  • 20mm guns can spark but often it is not big problem and sometimes even advantage

History

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See also

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Marcel Bloch Aviation Society* (Société des Avions Marcel Bloch)
Fighters  M.B.152C1 · M.B.157
Bombers  M.B.162 · M.B.174A-3 · M.B.175T
Jet Fighters  M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.450B Ouragan · M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Super Mystere B2 · Etendard IVM · Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE
  * Marcel Bloch changed his last name to Dassault and the company name changed to Avions Marcel Dassault or Marcel Dassault Aircraft in 1947.


France jet aircraft
Fighters  ▄F-86K · ▄F-100D
  M.D.450B Ouragan · M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Super Mystere B2 · Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE
Strike aircraft  ▄F-84F · F-84F · ▄F-84G-26-RE · Etendard IVM · Jaguar A
Bombers  S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB