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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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| − | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish SPAA {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.97 "Viking Fury"]]. | + | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish SPAA {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.97 "Viking Fury"]]. One can treat it as a sidegrade of the [[Lvtdgb_m/40]], as such most of the text onward will compare them, rather than just describe this one. |
== General info == | == General info == | ||
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{{Specs-Tank-Armour}} | {{Specs-Tank-Armour}} | ||
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' | ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' | ||
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| + | When one looks at the {{PAGENAME}}, it's expected to have decent protection, when in reality it's armoured like the reserve tank [[Strv m/38]]. As such, its hull and the turret will only sustain rifle-calibre MG. | ||
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| + | The gun shield is expected to protect the crew in case of a brawl with a light tank, but it's only 8 mm thick and can be penetrated by anything at point blank range. It's also way too small to protect the SPAA from any aircraft. | ||
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| + | Depending on the BR of opposing tanks, the turret crew armour may protect from enemy tanks, many rank I and II tanks can be too short to fire over it, but most of rank III tanks (which will be the norm in AB, as there {{PAGENAME}} belongs to the rank III lineup by default) will not only be too tall for it to matter, but will have HMG that can penetrate it anyway. Regardless, the turret has a lot of openings which allow any tank to decimate the entire turret crew if they try harder. The turret is also way too short and inconsistent to protect from any decent pilot and might as well not exist in case of an air strike. | ||
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| + | Compared to the Lvtdgb_m/40, technically the protection is supposed to be better, but in reality it just provokes tanks to fire APHE or HE at it, immediately destroying the tank. There is also no longer a possibility to just face them with the front and to lay suppressive fire, expecting the driver cab to stop incoming attacks - the whole interior is now interconnected. But it may protect from MG in RB/SB due to SPAA's lower BR there. | ||
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| + | Technically, it's difficult to notice {{PAGENAME}} as it's not a truck and looks like a tank from afar, so in RB/SB it can pass as something less dangerous to aircraft and faraway tanks until it starts to fire. In AB, it's class will immediately alert everyone of what it actually does and every aircraft will immediately go after it. | ||
'''Armour type:''' <!-- The types of armour present on the vehicle and their general locations --> | '''Armour type:''' <!-- The types of armour present on the vehicle and their general locations --> | ||
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{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}} | {{Specs-Tank-Mobility}} | ||
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| + | Is effectively slower than [[Lvtdgb_m/40]], but can turn around in place even without neutral steering, which makes it better when fighting inside of a town. | ||
{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 205|rbMinHp= 127}} | {{tankMobility|abMinHp= 205|rbMinHp= 127}} | ||
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{{main|lvakan m/36 (40 mm)}} | {{main|lvakan m/36 (40 mm)}} | ||
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| + | The gun and the ammunition are the same with the [[Lvtdgb_m/40]]. The only noticeable differences are: slightly reduced recoil, gun is able to fire straight in any direction and the gun turns slower, requiring the hull to be turned at the same time to catch up to an enemy. | ||
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* Against aircraft, 40 mm HE is lethal when it hits | * Against aircraft, 40 mm HE is lethal when it hits | ||
| − | * | + | * Works as a tank destroyer against rank I-II tanks since it has 60-79mm penetration (irrelevant in AB due to the increased BR) |
| − | * Stock belt | + | * Stock belt it a very effective all-purpose belt, while SAPHEI belt can destroy tanks and severely damage bombers in one hit |
* Almost has no noticeable reload time, allowing it to continuously fire when needed | * Almost has no noticeable reload time, allowing it to continuously fire when needed | ||
| − | * Relatively | + | * Relatively mobile |
| − | * Is a | + | * Is less prone to alert every aircraft due to not looking like a truck (not relevant in AB) |
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
* Bad reverse speed | * Bad reverse speed | ||
| − | * Can be | + | * Can be destroyed by any explosive ammunition via overpressure due to it being open topped |
| − | * Very | + | * Very ineffective armour that can even be circumvented by anything head-on |
| − | * | + | * Turret armour does not protect well against strafing aircraft and might as well not exist after a certain height |
* Bad turret traverse speed (Horizontal & Vertical) | * Bad turret traverse speed (Horizontal & Vertical) | ||
* Slow rate of fire (120 rpm) and average shell velocity, hitting fast planes is quite hard | * Slow rate of fire (120 rpm) and average shell velocity, hitting fast planes is quite hard | ||
Revision as of 14:17, 14 January 2022
Contents
Description
The Landsverk L-62 ANTI II is a rank III Swedish SPAA with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB) and 2.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.97 "Viking Fury". One can treat it as a sidegrade of the Lvtdgb_m/40, as such most of the text onward will compare them, rather than just describe this one.
General info
Survivability and armour
Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.
When one looks at the L-62 ANTI II, it's expected to have decent protection, when in reality it's armoured like the reserve tank Strv m/38. As such, its hull and the turret will only sustain rifle-calibre MG.
The gun shield is expected to protect the crew in case of a brawl with a light tank, but it's only 8 mm thick and can be penetrated by anything at point blank range. It's also way too small to protect the SPAA from any aircraft.
Depending on the BR of opposing tanks, the turret crew armour may protect from enemy tanks, many rank I and II tanks can be too short to fire over it, but most of rank III tanks (which will be the norm in AB, as there L-62 ANTI II belongs to the rank III lineup by default) will not only be too tall for it to matter, but will have HMG that can penetrate it anyway. Regardless, the turret has a lot of openings which allow any tank to decimate the entire turret crew if they try harder. The turret is also way too short and inconsistent to protect from any decent pilot and might as well not exist in case of an air strike.
Compared to the Lvtdgb_m/40, technically the protection is supposed to be better, but in reality it just provokes tanks to fire APHE or HE at it, immediately destroying the tank. There is also no longer a possibility to just face them with the front and to lay suppressive fire, expecting the driver cab to stop incoming attacks - the whole interior is now interconnected. But it may protect from MG in RB/SB due to SPAA's lower BR there.
Technically, it's difficult to notice L-62 ANTI II as it's not a truck and looks like a tank from afar, so in RB/SB it can pass as something less dangerous to aircraft and faraway tanks until it starts to fire. In AB, it's class will immediately alert everyone of what it actually does and every aircraft will immediately go after it.
Armour type:
| Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hull | ___ mm | ___ mm Top ___ mm Bottom |
___ mm | ___ - ___ mm |
| Turret | ___ - ___ mm Turret front ___ mm Gun mantlet |
___ - ___ mm | ___ - ___ mm | ___ - ___ mm |
| Cupola | ___ mm | ___ mm | ___ mm | ___ mm |
Notes:
Mobility
Is effectively slower than Lvtdgb_m/40, but can turn around in place even without neutral steering, which makes it better when fighting inside of a town.
| Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
| Arcade | 44 | 5 | 10.6 | 205 | 275 | 19.34 | 25.94 |
| Realistic | 41 | 5 | 127 | 144 | 11.98 | 13.58 | |
Modifications and economy
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Armaments
Main armament
The gun and the ammunition are the same with the Lvtdgb_m/40. The only noticeable differences are: slightly reduced recoil, gun is able to fire straight in any direction and the gun turns slower, requiring the hull to be turned at the same time to catch up to an enemy.
| 40 mm lvakan m/36 | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | ||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mode | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
| Arcade | 144 (8) | 120 | -5°/+85° | ±180° | N/A | 18.5 | 25.6 | 31.1 | 34.4 | 36.6 | 0.65 | 0.58 | 0.53 | 0.50 |
| Realistic | 12.5 | 14.7 | 17.9 | 19.7 | 21.0 | |||||||||
Ammunition
- Default: APC · HEFI-T
- slsgr m/36C: HEFI-T · HEFI-T · HEFI-T · APC
- slhpgr m/43: SAPHEI · SAPHEI · SAPHEI · HEFI-T
| Penetration statistics | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Belt | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | |
| Default | 79 | 75 | 60 | 46 | 35 | 26 |
| slsgr m/36C | 79 | 75 | 60 | 46 | 35 | 26 |
| slhpgr m/43 | 66 | 62 | 48 | 34 | 25 | 18 |
Ammo racks
| Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
4th rack empty |
5th rack empty |
6th rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
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| 18 | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ |
Usage in battles
Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Against aircraft, 40 mm HE is lethal when it hits
- Works as a tank destroyer against rank I-II tanks since it has 60-79mm penetration (irrelevant in AB due to the increased BR)
- Stock belt it a very effective all-purpose belt, while SAPHEI belt can destroy tanks and severely damage bombers in one hit
- Almost has no noticeable reload time, allowing it to continuously fire when needed
- Relatively mobile
- Is less prone to alert every aircraft due to not looking like a truck (not relevant in AB)
Cons:
- Bad reverse speed
- Can be destroyed by any explosive ammunition via overpressure due to it being open topped
- Very ineffective armour that can even be circumvented by anything head-on
- Turret armour does not protect well against strafing aircraft and might as well not exist after a certain height
- Bad turret traverse speed (Horizontal & Vertical)
- Slow rate of fire (120 rpm) and average shell velocity, hitting fast planes is quite hard
- Low fire density, requires more-than-average aiming skills in a head-on
- -5 degrees gun depression is only useable in flat battlefields
History
The Landsverk L-62, also known as the Anti II, was a self propelled anti-aircraft gun designed for Finland in 1941 by Landsverk of Sweden. It was based on the Anti I, but with an improved hull and turret. It was based on the chassis of the Landsverk L-60, a light tank design made in the interwar period. The L-62 had an extra road wheel, compared to the L-60. The turret was open topped, and circular. This allowed for better visibility of planes. It was armed with the 40 mm Bofors L/60 anti-aircraft gun. Finland ordered 6 of these vehicles in 1942, and designated them as the ItPsv 41, or Ilmatorjuntapanssarivaunu 41. This translates to anti-aircraft tank 41 in English. In the Summer of 1944, the ItPsv 41 shot down 11 Soviet planes. This protected the tank brigade from air attack. All 6 vehicles were used in Finnish service until 1966.
Devblog
Development of the L-62 began in 1931, with the Landsverk company choosing to convert their L-10 light tank into an SPAA unit as part of a plan to create a range of vehicles intended for the export market. During development however, Landsverk created the more advanced L-60 tank, leading to the decision of continuing development of the L-62 on that chassis instead of the previously used L-10.
The first prototype of the L-62, named ANTI I, was built by the end of the 1930's in parallel with the L-60 then tested. While the Swedish military didn't express interest in procuring the L-62, the Hungarian military purchased the production licence for both the L-60 and L-62, resulting in the creation of the domestically produced 38M Toldi and 40M Nimród tanks, respectively.
Landsverk continued developing the L-62 into the early 1940's, creating a more advanced version of the L-62 in 1941, called the ANTI II. The improved version featured a new hull and turret, as well as having its German transmission swapped out for a Swedish one.
A total of six L-62 ANTI IIs were built, all of which were purchased by Finland and subsequently used in action throughout the remainder of WWII. Surviving the war, the L-62s were used as training vehicles in the postwar period and right up until their retirement in 1966.
Media
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the vehicles;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
Bibliography
- Landsverk L-62 Anti-II. (2019, October 20). In Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Landsverk_L-62_Anti_II&oldid=922225342
| Sweden anti-aircraft vehicles | |
|---|---|
| SPAA | Pvlvv fm/42 · Lvtdgb m/40 · Pbv 301 · Lvkv 42 |
| Radar SPAA | VEAK 40 · Lvkv 9040C |
| SAM | Lvrbv 701 · ASRAD-R |
| Finland | L-62 ANTI II · ▄ZSU-57-2 · ItO 90M · ItPsV 90 |
