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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''Kampfwagenkanone 43''' (AKA: ''KwK 43 (88 mm)'') was the improved, longer version of the [[KwK 36 (88 mm)]]. The gun had different names depending on its purpose: Tank destroyers, for example, were equipped with the [[PaK 43 (88 mm)]]. It was produced from 1942 to 1945 and was used in the Tiger II and under the name PaK 43 in various tank destroyers. It was one of Germany's most famous guns during WWII
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The '''88 mm KwK43''' or '''Kampfwagenkanone 43 88 mm''' was the improved, longer version of the German [[KwK36 (88 mm)|88 mm KwK36]]. It was produced from 1942 to 1945 and was used in the Tiger II, as well as under the name '''PaK43''' (''Panzerabwehrkanone'': "anti-tank cannon") in various tank destroyers. It was one of Germany's most famous guns during WWII.
  
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
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'''KwK43'''
 
* {{Specs-Link|germ_panther_II}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|germ_panther_II}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|germ_pzkpfw_VI_ausf_b_tiger_IIp}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|germ_pzkpfw_VI_ausf_b_tiger_IIp}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|germ_pzkpfw_VI_ausf_b_tiger_IIh}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|germ_pzkpfw_VI_ausf_b_tiger_IIh}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|germ_pzkpfw_VI_ausf_b_tiger_IIh_sla}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|germ_pzkpfw_VI_ausf_b_tiger_IIh_sla}}
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'''PaK43'''
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* {{Specs-Link|germ_panzerjager_panther}}
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* {{Specs-Link|germ_panzerbefelhswagen_jagdpanther}}
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* {{Specs-Link|germ_panzerjager_nashorn}}
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* {{Specs-Link|germ_panzerjager_tiger_P_ferdinand}}
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* {{Specs-Link|germ_panzerjager_tiger_P_elefant}}
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* {{Specs-Link|germ_waffentrager_krupp_steyr}}
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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=== Available shells ===
 
 
 
[[File:Icon APCBC-HE Shell.jpg|left]]'''Pzgr. 39/43''' (Panzergranate 39/43)
 
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;APCBC round with high- explosive filler ''(Armor-piercing capped ballistic capped shell)''
 
 
 
*The Pzgr. 39/43 one of the two standard rounds of the KwK 43 (88 mm). This round can be used against nearly all kinds of medium or heavy tanks and is thank to its huge high- explosive filler capable of destroying most of its targets with only one shot.
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
!PzGr 39/43
 
!
 
|-
 
|Caliber
 
|88 mm
 
|-
 
|Projectile Mass
 
|10.16 kg
 
|-
 
|Muzzle Velocity
 
|1000 m/s
 
|-
 
|Explosive Type
 
|H.10
 
|-
 
|Explosive Mass
 
|64 g
 
|-
 
|TNT equivalent
 
|108.8 g
 
|-
 
|Fuse delay
 
|0.8 m
 
|-
 
|Fuse Sensitivity
 
|28 mm
 
|-
 
|Angle of attack with 0% chance of a ricochet
 
|48°
 
|-
 
|Angle of attack with 50% chance of a ricochet
 
|63°
 
|-
 
|Angle of attack with 100% chance of a ricochet
 
|71°
 
|}
 
  
[[File:Icon APCR Shot.jpg|left]]'''Pzgr. 40/43''' (Panzergranate 40/43)
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=== Available ammunition ===
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;APCR round ''(Armor-piercing composite rigid shell)''
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* The Pzgr. 39/43 one of the two standard rounds of the 88 mm KwK43. This round can be used against nearly all kinds of medium or heavy tanks and is thank to its huge high- explosive filler capable of destroying most of its targets with only one shot.
  
*The Pzgr. 40/43 is one of the researchable shells for the KwK 43 (88 mm). Like other APCR shells, it is an explosive round made out of a dense core sitting in a soft metal shell, making it useful against heavy tanks. Since it creates only a small bit of shrapnel where it is important to aim at the enemy's modules and crew members.
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*The Pzgr. 40/43 is one of the researchable shells for the 88 mm KwK43. Like other APCR shells, it is a round made out of a dense core sitting in a soft metal shell, making it useful against heavy tanks. Since it creates only a small bit of shrapnel it is important to aim at the enemy's modules and crew members.
  
*1 x Pzgr. 40/43 costs 60 SL.
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*The Hl.Gr 39 is one of the researchable shells for the 88 mm KwK43. The composition of a metal core in a high explosive surrounding makes it effective against both vehicles with light or no armour (light tanks/trucks) and armoured vehicles like medium tanks. Its HEAT characteristics (not losing power over long ranges) make it very useful for sniping over extreme distances. Due to the fact that the Pzgr. 39/43 is free and penetrates more armour, it is wise to carry only a few Hl.Gr 39s into battle since you won't use it very often.
  
{| class="wikitable"
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* The Sprgr.43 is a basic HE round that is used by late German 88 mm guns. It is recommended to carry 2 - 5 of these into battle for various reasons. For example, you can use it to destroy vehicles with no or very thin armour or for removing obstacles out of your line of fire. Very skilled gunners can try to use it for shooting down aircraft.
!Pzgr. 40/43
 
!
 
|-
 
|Caliber
 
|88 mm
 
|-
 
|Projectile Mass
 
|7.3 kg
 
|-
 
|Muzzle Velocity
 
|1200 m/s
 
|-
 
|Angle of attack with 0% chance of a ricochet
 
|66°
 
|-
 
|Angle of attack with 50% chance of a ricochet
 
|70°
 
|-
 
|Angle of attack with 100% chance of a ricochet
 
|72°
 
|}
 
  
[[File:Icon HEAT Shell.jpg|left]]'''Hl.Gr 39''' (Hohlladungsgranate 39)
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{{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|PzGr 39/43, PzGr 40/43, Hl.Gr 39, Sprgr.43}}
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;HEAT round ''(High explosive anti-tank shell)''
 
 
 
*The Hl.Gr 39 is one of the researchable shells for the KwK 43 (88 mm). The composition of a metal core in a high explosive surrounding makes it effective against both vehicles with light or no armour (light tanks/trucks) and armoured vehicles like medium tanks. Its HEAT characteristics (not losing power over long ranges) make it very useful for sniping over extreme distances). Due to the fact that the Pzgr. 39/43 is free and penetrates more armour, it is wise to carry only a few Hl.Gr 39s' into battle since you won't use it very often.
 
 
 
*1 x Hl.Gr 39 costs 60 SL.
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
!Hl.Gr 39
 
!
 
|-
 
|Caliber
 
|88 mm
 
|-
 
|Projectile Mass
 
|7.64 kg
 
|-
 
|Muzzle Velocity
 
|600 m/s
 
|-
 
|Explosive Type
 
|H.5
 
|-
 
|Explosive Mass
 
|646 g
 
|-
 
|TNT equivalent
 
|1.1 kg
 
|-
 
|Fuse Sensitivity
 
|0.3 mm
 
|-
 
|Angle of attack with 0% chance of a ricochet
 
|62°
 
|-
 
|Angle of attack with 50% chance of a ricochet
 
|69°
 
|-
 
|Angle of attack with 100% chance of a ricochet
 
|73°
 
|}
 
 
 
[[File:Icon HE Shell.jpg|left]]'''Sprgr. L/4,5'''
 
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;HE round ''(High-explosive fragmentation shell)''
 
 
 
*A basic HE round that is used by all German 88 mm guns. It is recommended to carry 2 - 5 of these into battle for various reasons. For example, you can use it to destroy vehicles with no or very thin armour or for removing obstacles out of your line of fire. Very skilled gunners can try to use it for shooting down aircraft.
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
!Sprgr. L/4,5
 
!
 
|-
 
|Caliber
 
|88 mm
 
|-
 
|Projectile Mass
 
|9 kg
 
|-
 
|Muzzle Velocity
 
|820 m/s
 
|-
 
|Explosive type
 
|Fp.02
 
|-
 
|Explosive Type
 
|698 g
 
|-
 
|TNT equivalent
 
|698 g
 
|-
 
|Fuse Delay
 
|0.1 m
 
|-
 
|Fuse Sensitivity
 
|0.5 mm
 
|-
 
|Angle of attack with 0% chance of a ricochet
 
|79°
 
|-
 
|Angle of attack with 50% chance of a ricochet
 
|80°
 
|-
 
|Angle of attack with 100% chance of a ricochet
 
|81°
 
|}
 
  
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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The cannon is mainly used for defensive play, due to the below average reload speed. At most BRs it is found, it can punch through everything you encounter. Notable exceptions are the hull of the Super Pershing and T25, along with some of the hulls of Soviet TDs that appear in this BR range.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
* Flatter trajectory than the preceeding [[KwK36 (88 mm)]]
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* Flat ballistic trajectory
 
* High penetration
 
* High penetration
 
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Long reload
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* Reload time is longer than average
* Low ammo
 
  
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== History ==
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== History ==
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The 88 mm KwK43's initial pitch in the German armoured forces started as far back in the Tiger I tank. Hitler had desired the KwK43 gun to be in the Tiger I, but the tank design and dimensions prevented easy instalment of the long KwK43 gun, and so this was delayed as a tank mount until the Tiger II design.
At devlpment Hitler wanted the gun mounted on to the tiger tank but the dimensions of the turret and other things prevented this from happening.
 
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
 
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* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
 
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== External links ==
 
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Latest revision as of 22:54, 2 February 2023

Description

The 88 mm KwK43 or Kampfwagenkanone 43 88 mm was the improved, longer version of the German 88 mm KwK36. It was produced from 1942 to 1945 and was used in the Tiger II, as well as under the name PaK43 (Panzerabwehrkanone: "anti-tank cannon") in various tank destroyers. It was one of Germany's most famous guns during WWII.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

KwK43

PaK43

General info

Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.

Available ammunition

  • The Pzgr. 39/43 one of the two standard rounds of the 88 mm KwK43. This round can be used against nearly all kinds of medium or heavy tanks and is thank to its huge high- explosive filler capable of destroying most of its targets with only one shot.
  • The Pzgr. 40/43 is one of the researchable shells for the 88 mm KwK43. Like other APCR shells, it is a round made out of a dense core sitting in a soft metal shell, making it useful against heavy tanks. Since it creates only a small bit of shrapnel it is important to aim at the enemy's modules and crew members.
  • The Hl.Gr 39 is one of the researchable shells for the 88 mm KwK43. The composition of a metal core in a high explosive surrounding makes it effective against both vehicles with light or no armour (light tanks/trucks) and armoured vehicles like medium tanks. Its HEAT characteristics (not losing power over long ranges) make it very useful for sniping over extreme distances. Due to the fact that the Pzgr. 39/43 is free and penetrates more armour, it is wise to carry only a few Hl.Gr 39s into battle since you won't use it very often.
  • The Sprgr.43 is a basic HE round that is used by late German 88 mm guns. It is recommended to carry 2 - 5 of these into battle for various reasons. For example, you can use it to destroy vehicles with no or very thin armour or for removing obstacles out of your line of fire. Very skilled gunners can try to use it for shooting down aircraft.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
PzGr 39/43 APCBC 237 234 222 207 193 180
PzGr 40/43 APCR 279 273 252 227 205 185
Hl.Gr 39 HEAT 110 110 110 110 110 110
Sprgr.43 HE 19 19 17 16 14 14
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
PzGr 39/43 APCBC 1,000 10.16 1.2 14 108.8 48° 63° 71°
PzGr 40/43 APCR 1,130 7.3 - - - 66° 70° 72°
Hl.Gr 39 HEAT 600 7.64 0 0.3 1,100 62° 69° 73°
Sprgr.43 HE 820 9.4 0.2 0.1 1,000 79° 80° 81°

Comparison with analogues

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Usage in battles

The cannon is mainly used for defensive play, due to the below average reload speed. At most BRs it is found, it can punch through everything you encounter. Notable exceptions are the hull of the Super Pershing and T25, along with some of the hulls of Soviet TDs that appear in this BR range.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Flat ballistic trajectory
  • High penetration

Cons:

  • Reload time is longer than average

History

The 88 mm KwK43's initial pitch in the German armoured forces started as far back in the Tiger I tank. Hitler had desired the KwK43 gun to be in the Tiger I, but the tank design and dimensions prevented easy instalment of the long KwK43 gun, and so this was delayed as a tank mount until the Tiger II design.

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;
  • references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


Germany tank cannons
20 mm  KwK30 · KwK38 · Rh202
28/20 mm  s.Pz.B.41
30 mm  MK 30-2/ABM
37 mm  KwK34(t) · KwK36 · KwK38(t) · PaK L/45
47 mm  Pak.(t)(Sf.)
50 mm  KwK39 · KwK L/42 · PaK38
57 mm  Bofors L/70 Mk.1
75 mm  K51 L/24 · KwK37 · KwK40 L43 · KwK40 L48 · KwK42 · KwK44 · KwK44 L/36.5 · PaK39 L48 · PaK40/3 L46 · PaK42 · StuK37 · StuK40 L43 · StuK40 L48
76 mm  PaK36 (r)
88 mm  Flak.37 · Flak 41 · KwK36 · KwK43 · PaK43
90 mm  BK90
105 mm  CN105-57 · FMK.4 Modelo 1L · K.18 · KwK L/68 · L7A3 · PzK M57 · StuH42
120 mm  Rh120 L/44 · Rh120 L/55 · Rh120 L/55 A1
128 mm  K.40 · KwK44 · PaK44
150 mm  s.I.G.33 · Stu.H 43 L/12
380 mm  RW61
  Foreign:
30 mm  Bushmaster 2 Mk.44 (USA) · HSS 831L (Britain)
57 mm  6pdr OQF Mk.V (Britain)
73 mm  2A28 (USSR)
75 mm  M3 (USA)
76 mm  F-32 (USSR) · F-34 (USSR) · M32 (USA)
90 mm  M36 (USA) · M41 (USA)
105 mm  GT-3 (South Africa)
125 mm  2A46M (USSR)
152 mm  M-10T (USSR) · XM150E5 (USA)
155 mm  M126 (USA)