Difference between revisions of "J32B"

From War Thunder Wiki
Jump to: navigation, search
(External links: Added Devblog)
m (Reverted edits by U75945355 (talk) to last revision by Flame2512)
(20 intermediate revisions by 10 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
{{Relevance|br}}
 
{{Specs-Card|code=saab_j32b}}
 
 
 
{{About
 
{{About
| about = Swedish jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
+
|about=Swedish jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = attack version
+
|usage=the other version
| link = A32A
+
|link=A32A
 +
}}
 +
{{Specs-Card
 +
|code=saab_j32b
 +
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
 +
|cockpit=cockpit_saab_j32b.jpg
 
}}
 
}}
  
 
== Description ==
 
== Description ==
<!--''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.''-->
+
<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
{{break}}
 
 
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]].
 
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]].
 +
 +
The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' is a Swedish subsonic interceptor, combining excellent climb-rate and devastating firepower, both in terms of suspended and offensive armaments.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
=== Flight performance ===
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
+
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
 +
<!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
 +
The Saab {{PAGENAME}} Lansen is a powerful interceptor built for all-weather operations. Being the descendant of the earlier [[A32A]], this version focuses on air-to-air combat instead of its previous role as an air-to-ground platform. To achieve this, the {{PAGENAME}} received the new RM6A engine. This engine is a Swedish license-produced variant of the Avon 300, producing a staggering 6,810 kgf when engaged with full afterburner. This engine was originally developed for the [[Lightning F.6]]. This makes the {{PAGENAME}} a subsonic plane with a supersonic engine, resulting in incredible acceleration and energy retention. Staying fast and avoiding dogfights is the main advantage of the {{PAGENAME}}, as the airframe is relatively large and cumbersome, not really meant for aerial manoeuvres. However, a single pass is more than enough thanks to four centre-mounted Akan m/55 cannons, with a incredible 24 kg burst mass. The {{PAGENAME}} is also outfitted with four RB24 air-to-air missiles capable of killing enemies far beyond the plane's reach. This, combined with the incredible thrust, lets the '''{{PAGENAME}}''' decide when, and how to strike down opponents; a luxury most planes can only dream of.
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
+
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
 
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
 
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
Line 37: Line 41:
  
 
==== Details ====
 
==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
+
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 
|-
 
|-
 
! colspan="6" | Features
 
! colspan="6" | Features
Line 47: Line 51:
 
|}
 
|}
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
+
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 
|-
 
|-
 
! colspan="7" | Limits
 
! colspan="7" | Limits
Line 58: Line 62:
 
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
|-
 
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 550 || 550 || 320 || ~11 || ~5
+
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 550 || 550 || 320 || ~10 || ~4
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
Line 73: Line 77:
  
 
==== Engine performance ====
 
==== Engine performance ====
[[File:J32B_Armor_ Protection.png|thumb|right|400px|Thickness of each armour section located in the {{PAGENAME}}.]]
+
[[File:J32B_Armor_Protection.png|thumb|right|400px|Thickness of each armour section located in the {{PAGENAME}}.]]
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
Line 109: Line 113:
  
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
<!--''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''-->
+
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
 +
<!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
  
 
* 5 mm steel plate - cockpit floor and spacer plate between frontal armour.
 
* 5 mm steel plate - cockpit floor and spacer plate between frontal armour.
Line 116: Line 121:
 
* 50 mm bulletproof glass - armoured canopy windscreen
 
* 50 mm bulletproof glass - armoured canopy windscreen
  
The aircraft provides good pilot protection with steel plates and bulletproof glass.  
+
The {{PAGENAME}} features good pilot protection. A 50 mm bulletproof screen, and plates surrounding the two pilots, reaching thickness levels of between 5 to 15 mm. These plates were originally meant to save the pilot from incoming ground-fire due to its earlier ground-attack purpose. Thanks to this excellent protection, as well as having two pilots instead of one, dying by a pilot knockout is highly unlikely in comparison to other fighters of the same rank. The {{PAGENAME}} is also survivable in terms of fuselage strength. A single pass rarely knocks it out immediately, and seems more on-par with the [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIA|Vautour IIA]] than other fighters at its rank. This strength can be attributed to the separated fuel-tanks, as well as the short engine (in relation to the fuselage). This high survivability makes the {{PAGENAME}} quite forgiving for making mistakes, as it usually isn't hard to return back to base for repairs. '''It is important, however, to avoid all damage possible''', as even the slightest fuselage damage can heavily cripple the {{PAGENAME}}<nowiki/>'s general flight performance. A badly damaged fuselage makes the {{PAGENAME}} unable to retain energy, keeping it away from its main advantage. The {{PAGENAME}} is also prone to catching fire. Although the fire is easily put out, the damage suffered is usually more than fatal.
 +
 
 +
=== Modifications and economy ===
 +
{{Specs-Economy}}
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 +
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
<!--''Describe the offensive armament of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.''-->
+
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}
 +
<!-- ''Describe the offensive armament of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.'' -->
 
{{main|Akan m/55 (30 mm)}}
 
{{main|Akan m/55 (30 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
  
* 4 x 30 mm Akan m/55 autocannons (90 RPG - 360 rounds total)
+
* 4 x 30 mm Akan m/55 cannons, nose-mounted (90 rpg = 360 total)
 +
 
 +
The {{PAGENAME}} is outfitted with four nose-mounted Akan m/55, which are Swedish-made versions of the popular ADEN cannon, found on British aircraft. Although sharing a similar mounting to the Hunter F.6, The Lansen fires almost 4kg of extra burst mass, as the Swedish guns have a higher fire-rate. High burst-mass is generally a good thing, as it compensates for sloppier maneuvers, where the plane gets less time on target. The {{PAGENAME}} doesn't really benefit from this upside, however, as the ammunition count is only 90 per gun, rounding the total up to a mere 360. This is almost half of what the Hunter offers, while still having a higher fire-rate. This forces the {{PAGENAME}} to be played with incredible trigger-patience, as any unnecessary moment of fire can cost half the magazine, highly limiting it's match potential. This can be compensated for by equipping air-to-air missiles, which sacrifices a bit of mobility for the option to save ammunition.
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
<!--''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''=-->
+
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
{{main|m/57B|Rb24}}
+
<!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 +
{{main|RB24|srak m/57B}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
  
 
* Without load
 
* Without load
* 38 x m/57B unguided rockets
+
* 38 x srak m/57B rockets
* 4 x Rb24 air-to-air missiles
+
* 4 x RB24 missiles
* 38 x m/57B unguided rockets + 2 x Rb24 air-to-air missiles
+
* 2 x RB24 missiles + 38 x srak m/57B rockets
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
<!--''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''-->
+
<!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
  
This aircraft excels at being fast, it is important to use that advantage to quickly Boom & Zoom any unsuspecting enemies. Avoid utilising turning manoeuvres with other aircraft as every aircraft with the exception of the F-100D will shake you rather easily and you risk being pulled into a "reversal". Although you can easily out-run most jets, some aircraft like the Etendard IVM, MiG-17AS and Shenyang F-5 will easily catch up. These aircraft prove deadly to the {{PAGENAME}} as they will keep up with your turns if you try to evade them, not to mention they also carry air-to-air missiles which they will certainly use to force you to bleed speed (if you don't get destroyed in the process). Your safest bet is to go in a straight line hugging the maximum safe speed (concern for realistic and simulator battles) and hope they pull away.
+
'''Basics'''
  
=== Manual Engine Control ===
+
Being an interceptor by nature, staying fast remains a priority above anything else. In order to achieve this, the {{PAGENAME}} likes to avoid strong aerial maneuvers by keeping altitude and utilizing boom & zoom tactics. For a new pilot, especially one coming from the [[J29D]] or [[J29F]], the luxury of an afterburner shouldn't be much of a surprise. The {{PAGENAME}} keeps speed much better than the afterburning Tunnan, while still offering high firepower and vertical energy to boot. This compensates for the sluggish performance the plane shows in aerial combat. A newer pilot should stick to altitude, as the higher areas of the map are sometimes inaccessible by other enemies. It's still important to locate enemies with the same strengths as the {{PAGENAME}}. These include the [[Hunter FGA.9]], [[F-100A (China)|F-100A]], [[Shenyang F-5]], and the [[F3H-2]], among many others. These, along with all other missile-carrying fighters, will make flying the {{PAGENAME}} a pilots nightmare. The subsonic fighters at lower battle ratings are easy to fend off, requiring mostly speed and slight banking maneuvers. But the planes placed between 9.0-9.7 pose as a strong counter to the {{PAGENAME}}, as they force it to maneuver. '''Do not fly straight when enemies attack you from behind'''. Flying straight ensures that anyone behind you has a chance to shoot you down. Even if the {{PAGENAME}} handles like a bus, it's always worth trying to avoid any damage possible, as it will only lower your chances of survival.
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
+
 
|-
+
'''Landing'''
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
+
 
|-
+
One of the larger difficulties with the {{PAGENAME}} is landing. The {{PAGENAME}} is very good at staying fast, even without engine thrust. With a slow turn-rate, slowing down becomes even harder. Although the air-brake on the {{PAGENAME}} isn’t very large in comparison to other transonic fighters, it does still work, giving the plane some extra deceleration. When below ~500 kph, the {{PAGENAME}} can deploy its Fowler-design flaps, which cause intense drag, slowing the plane down to much more manageable speeds. The landing approach should be done at around 300 kph to prevent landing flaps from ripping. This speed should be higher if the plane is out of fuel, as staying at 300 kph has to be done with the help of some engine throttle. If the {{PAGENAME}} approaches below 300 kph without an engine, the plane won't be able to nose up before touchdown, due to the bad stall-speed of around 200 kph. When the {{PAGENAME}} has finally touched the landing strip, it’s important to keep holding brakes, as the {{PAGENAME}} needs as much runway as possible. If the {{PAGENAME}} is approaching the end of the runway, the {{PAGENAME}} can emergency drift by using full rudder below 100 kph. Although this may result in a broken wing, it’s usually better than overshooting the landing strip.
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
+
 
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
+
'''Aggressive play-style'''
! colspan="3" | Radiator
+
 
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
+
A {{PAGENAME}} pilot comfortable with trigger patience, aerial maneuverability, and central awareness can slowly attempt to push the {{PAGENAME}} to its limits. The {{PAGENAME}}, especially when spaded, shows incredible and almost unmatched energy retention even at higher tiers. Combined with a weak turn radius and strong acceleration, the {{PAGENAME}} can easily throw itself into any engagement, choosing to disengage whenever it pleases. This mentality can be further enhanced by making the aircraft as light as possible, taking only 20 minutes of fuel, and sometimes disregarding suspended armaments entirely. With spaded performance and minimal weight, the {{PAGENAME}} will stay above 1100 kph no matter the aerial maneuver, giving it the ability to escape no matter what's behind it. This also mitigates the sidewinder issue the {{PAGENAME}} suffers from. When the {{PAGENAME}} has the ability to continuously turn without losing speed, nobody will have the ability to achieve a perfect lock-on state. A {{PAGENAME}} pilot still needs to be aware of incoming gunfire since cutting this turn can be easily achieved. This can be easily improved on by shifting direction every once in a while, making the chasing opponent lose speed in the process. When combined with some training, The {{PAGENAME}} turns into a unbeatable defensive flyer compared to the usual cannon-fodder experience. It is worth noting that this play-style is incredibly challenging for inexperienced {{PAGENAME}} pilots, as it requires incredible trigger patience and G-load awareness. Anyone looking to play this aggressive approach can always go for less drastic changes, by still taking suspended armaments, or only focusing slow opponents.
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
+
 
|-
+
'''Dealing with Supersonic Aircraft'''
! Oil
+
 
! Water
+
As the {{PAGENAME}} sits at the very edge of the transsonic era, it's no surprice the vehicle faces off opponents far more advanced and powerful. When the {{PAGENAME}} is the fastest plane in a match, it's quite common to play passively and safe, as nobody has the ability to reach it. But as the {{PAGENAME}} goes head-to-head with an [[F-4E Phantom II|F-4E]], the Lansen stands no chance of getting away. The general goal becomes to avoid cannon fire and incoming missiles, which can be best achieved by staying low on the deck, cruising at maximum speed. If engaged with an enemy, the {{PAGENAME}} should go back to the primary objective of retaining speed and energy while still pulling as hard as possible. The play-style doesn't change a lot from the aggressive one, as the Rb24 missiles become even more dead weight than before, and lasting longer than 20 minutes is more of an miracle than a expectation. One overlooked detail is how the {{PAGENAME}} now turns better in comparison, as fully loaded Phantom and MiG-21's struggle to keep with it. Heavy [[F-4EJ Phantom II|F-4EJ]]'s need to dump tons of speed to even marginally cut the turning radius of the {{PAGENAME}}. This can be exploited by a veteran pilot, as this opens up opportunities to energy-trap and finish off the cumbersome phantom. the more lightweight deltas such as the MiG-21 and Mirage meet different fates, as they easily cut the turn from the start, forcing the {{PAGENAME}} to maneuver. However, as the {{PAGENAME}} doesn't loose energy compared to the aggressor, it can easily keep turning until the enemy runs out of speed to follow up with, allowing the {{PAGENAME}} to swoop in for a finishing blow.
! Type
 
|-
 
| Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br>Auto control available || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br>Auto control available || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br>1 gear || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
 
|-
 
|}
 
  
=== Modules ===
+
Some small advice would be to avoid other transonic / slower supersonic planes, as they will gravitate to using the same tactic as the {{PAGENAME}}, but with greater success. Planes like the [[MiG-19S (Germany)|MiG-19S]], [[MiG-19PT]], and the [[Q-5 early|Q-5]] all excel at retaining speed like the Lansen, making it impossible to shake them off. If the {{PAGENAME}} comes across a dire situation where several opponents are behind it, '''it's important to keep turning no matter what!''' Opponents behind the {{PAGENAME}} get a guaranteed kill if the plane flies directly straight, as it allows their sidewinders to lead properly. A continuously turning {{PAGENAME}} is almost impossible to missile from directly behind.
{| class="wikitable"
 
! colspan="1" | Tier
 
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
 
! colspan="1" | Survivability
 
! colspan="2" | Weaponry
 
|-
 
| I
 
| Fuselage repair
 
|
 
|
 
| Offensive 30 mm
 
|
 
|-
 
| II
 
|
 
| Compressor
 
| Airframe
 
|
 
| m/57
 
|-
 
| III
 
| Wings repair
 
| Engine
 
|
 
| New 30 mm cannons
 
|
 
|-
 
| IV
 
| G-suit
 
|
 
| Cover
 
|
 
| Rb24
 
|-
 
|}
 
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
<!--''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''-->
+
<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
 +
 
 
'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
* Excellent top speed. Will out-run almost every other jet at its BR range
+
* Excellent top speed - outruns most subsonic opponents
* 4x 30mm Akan M/55 that inflict devastating damage
+
* 4 x 30 mm Akan m/55 - incredible burst mass and damage
* 4x Rb-24 air-to-air missiles, same performance as AIM-9Bs
+
* 4 x RB24 air-to-air missiles - highly potent missiles against adversaries
* Powerful afterburning engine, providing excellent acceleration
+
* Powerful afterburning engine - excellent acceleration & energy retention
 
* Integrated radar
 
* Integrated radar
* Slightly above average roll-rate
+
* Above-average roll-rate
 
* Resistant to high-G manoeuvres (up to 10Gs)
 
* Resistant to high-G manoeuvres (up to 10Gs)
* Decent pilot protection and airframe endurance
+
* Decent pilot protection & airframe endurance
* Great energy retention
+
* Fowler flap design - provides excellent lift at low speeds
* Fowler flap design provides excellent lift at low speeds
 
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Very poor turn-rate at high speeds.
 
 
* Mediocre manoeuvrability, almost every opponent it faces can out-manoeuvre it
 
* Mediocre manoeuvrability, almost every opponent it faces can out-manoeuvre it
* Very low extended gear rip speed (ensure gear is raised right after take-off and lowered at a safe speed)
+
* Difficult to land - landing flaps rip at 300 km/h
* Sluggish at slow speeds
+
* Very inefficient air-brake design - requires high angle-of-attack or aggressive banking to slow down
* Very inefficient and small air-brake design, requires high angle-of-attack or aggressive banking to bleed excess speed quickly
+
* Large target - Easy to hit
* Relatively large target
+
* High rate of fire - ammunition will deplete very quickly, trigger control required
* High rate of fire means the ammunition will deplete very quickly, trigger control required
+
* High repair cost with all modifications installed in Realistic Battles
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
<!--Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).-->
+
<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
 
+
In the year 1948, SAAB started to develop a new type of multi purpose aircraft with capabilities such as a strike-fighter, interceptor or reconnaissance aircraft. The project was called P1150 and had the intent to replace the B18, J21A, A21R and the J30 aircraft. After some testing, a swept wing design typical for the time period was decided upon. After some testing with a Swedish jet engine design called the Dovern, it was decided that the engine lacked the desired power so a swap to the British Rolls-Royce Avon Mk.21 engine was decided upon due to its ability to produce more power without its afterburner on than the Dovern could even with the afterburner engaged. The airplane was designated the Saab 32 Lansen and flew for the first time in November 1952 with Bengt Olow as pilot.
In the year 1948, SAAB started to develop a new type of multi purpose aircraft with capabilities such as a strike-fighter, interceptor or reconnaissance aircraft. The project was called P1150 and had the intent to replace the B18, J21A, A21R and the J30 aircraft. After some testing, a swept wing design typical for the time period was decided upon. After some testing with a Swedish jet engine design called the Dovern, it was decided that the engine lacked the desired power so a swap to the British Rolls-Royce Avon Mk.21 engine was decided upon due to its ability to produce more power without its afterburner on than the Dovern could even with the afterburner engaged. The airplane was designated the Saab 32 Lansen and flew for the first time in November 1952 with Bengt Olow as pilot. 
 
  
 
A total of 447 aircraft were delivered to the Swedish Air Force from 1955 until 1960. These were modified and renovated until its retirement in 1997. A total of 10 variants were in service, including the prototype P1150.
 
A total of 447 aircraft were delivered to the Swedish Air Force from 1955 until 1960. These were modified and renovated until its retirement in 1997. A total of 10 variants were in service, including the prototype P1150.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
<!--Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.-->
+
<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
<!--;Images
+
 
<div><ul>
+
;Images
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:(Insert image name.jpg/png here|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
+
<gallery mode="packed">
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:(Insert image name.jpg/png here|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
+
File:J32B WTWallpaper 001.jpg
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:(Insert image name.jpg/png here|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
+
File:J32B WTWallpaper 003.jpg
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:(Insert image name.jpg/png here|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
+
File:J32B WTWallpaper 004.jpg
</ul></div>-->
+
File:J32B WTWallpaper 005.jpg
 +
File:J32B WTWallpaper 006.jpg
 +
File:J32B WTWallpaper 007.jpg
 +
</gallery>
 +
 
 
;Videos
 
;Videos
 
{{Youtube-gallery|6yUrv5UsiXU|'''The Shooting Range #183''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:32 discusses the J.32B.}}
 
{{Youtube-gallery|6yUrv5UsiXU|'''The Shooting Range #183''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:32 discusses the J.32B.}}
 +
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
+
<!-- ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
 
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
+
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
<!--;Related development
+
* [[A32A]] - Attack variant of the same aircraft
* [[?-?? (Family)]]
 
 
 
;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era
 
 
 
* Airplane manufacture name [[Airplane name]]-->
 
  
 
== External links ==
 
== External links ==
<!--Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
+
<!-- ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
+
* ''other literature.'' -->
* ''other literature.''-->
 
 
 
 
* [[wt:en/news/6519-development-j32-lansen-flying-lance-en|[Devblog] J32 Lansen: Flying Lance]]
 
* [[wt:en/news/6519-development-j32-lansen-flying-lance-en|[Devblog] J32 Lansen: Flying Lance]]
  
 
{{AirManufacturer Saab}}
 
{{AirManufacturer Saab}}
{{Template:Sweden_jet_aircraft}}
+
{{Sweden jet aircraft}}
 
 
[[Category:Sweden aircraft]]
 

Revision as of 12:46, 10 January 2021

Rank VI | Premium | Golden Eagles
Challenger DS Pack
This page is about the Swedish jet fighter J32B. For the other version, see A32A.
J32B
saab_j32b.png
GarageImage J32B.jpg
360://https://wiki.warthunder.com/images/7/71/Cockpit_saab_j32b.jpg
J32B
AB RB SB
9.7 9.3 9.7
Research:220 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:620 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
Show in game

Description

The J32B Lansen is a rank VI Swedish jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.7 (AB/SB) and 9.3 (RB). It was introduced in Update 1.95 "Northern Wind".

The J32B is a Swedish subsonic interceptor, combining excellent climb-rate and devastating firepower, both in terms of suspended and offensive armaments.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Max speed
at 0 m1 140 km/h
Turn time34 s
Max altitude12 500 m
EngineSvenska Flygmotor RM6A
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight14 t

The Saab J32B Lansen is a powerful interceptor built for all-weather operations. Being the descendant of the earlier A32A, this version focuses on air-to-air combat instead of its previous role as an air-to-ground platform. To achieve this, the J32B received the new RM6A engine. This engine is a Swedish license-produced variant of the Avon 300, producing a staggering 6,810 kgf when engaged with full afterburner. This engine was originally developed for the Lightning F.6. This makes the J32B a subsonic plane with a supersonic engine, resulting in incredible acceleration and energy retention. Staying fast and avoiding dogfights is the main advantage of the J32B, as the airframe is relatively large and cumbersome, not really meant for aerial manoeuvres. However, a single pass is more than enough thanks to four centre-mounted Akan m/55 cannons, with a incredible 24 kg burst mass. The J32B is also outfitted with four RB24 air-to-air missiles capable of killing enemies far beyond the plane's reach. This, combined with the incredible thrust, lets the J32B decide when, and how to strike down opponents; a luxury most planes can only dream of.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,133 1,128 12500 34.4 34.6 84.5 78.5 900
Upgraded 1,148 1,140 33.6 34.0 119.5 101.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1160 450 550 550 320 ~10 ~4
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 850 < 650 < 600 N/A

Engine performance

Thickness of each armour section located in the J32B.
Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Empty mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Svenska Flygmotor RM6A 1 8,680 kg 307 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 8m fuel 20m fuel 28m fuel
1,400 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 9,491 kg 10,675 kg 11,464 kg 13,500 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 8m fuel 20m fuel 28m fuel MTOW
Stationary 4,727 kgf 6,807 kgf 0.72 0.64 0.59 0.50
Optimal 4,727 kgf
(0 km/h)
7,199 kgf
(1,000 km/h)
0.76 0.67 0.63 0.53

Survivability and armour

Crew2 people
Speed of destruction
Structural1 160 km/h
Gear450 km/h
  • 5 mm steel plate - cockpit floor and spacer plate between frontal armour.
  • 10 mm steel plate - behind the pilot and GIB's seats
  • 15 mm steel plate - armour plates in front of the cockpit section
  • 50 mm bulletproof glass - armoured canopy windscreen

The J32B features good pilot protection. A 50 mm bulletproof screen, and plates surrounding the two pilots, reaching thickness levels of between 5 to 15 mm. These plates were originally meant to save the pilot from incoming ground-fire due to its earlier ground-attack purpose. Thanks to this excellent protection, as well as having two pilots instead of one, dying by a pilot knockout is highly unlikely in comparison to other fighters of the same rank. The J32B is also survivable in terms of fuselage strength. A single pass rarely knocks it out immediately, and seems more on-par with the Vautour IIA than other fighters at its rank. This strength can be attributed to the separated fuel-tanks, as well as the short engine (in relation to the fuselage). This high survivability makes the J32B quite forgiving for making mistakes, as it usually isn't hard to return back to base for repairs. It is important, however, to avoid all damage possible, as even the slightest fuselage damage can heavily cripple the J32B's general flight performance. A badly damaged fuselage makes the J32B unable to retain energy, keeping it away from its main advantage. The J32B is also prone to catching fire. Although the fire is easily put out, the damage suffered is usually more than fatal.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB2 972 → 4 255 Sl icon.png
RB9 543 → 13 665 Sl icon.png
SB9 573 → 13 708 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications196 000 Rp icon.png
309 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 700 Ge icon.png
Crew training175 000 Sl icon.png
Experts620 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 600 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 010 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
130 / 380 / 600 % Sl icon.png
226 / 226 / 226 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
20 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
31 000 Sl icon.png
530 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
21 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
33 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine extinguisher.png
EFS
Research:
21 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
33 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
aden_belt_pack
Research:
20 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
31 000 Sl icon.png
530 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
m/57
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods weapon.png
aden_new_gun
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
Mods air to air missile.png
RB24
Research:
21 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
33 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: Akan m/55 (30 mm)

The J32B is armed with:

  • 4 x 30 mm Akan m/55 cannons, nose-mounted (90 rpg = 360 total)

The J32B is outfitted with four nose-mounted Akan m/55, which are Swedish-made versions of the popular ADEN cannon, found on British aircraft. Although sharing a similar mounting to the Hunter F.6, The Lansen fires almost 4kg of extra burst mass, as the Swedish guns have a higher fire-rate. High burst-mass is generally a good thing, as it compensates for sloppier maneuvers, where the plane gets less time on target. The J32B doesn't really benefit from this upside, however, as the ammunition count is only 90 per gun, rounding the total up to a mere 360. This is almost half of what the Hunter offers, while still having a higher fire-rate. This forces the J32B to be played with incredible trigger-patience, as any unnecessary moment of fire can cost half the magazine, highly limiting it's match potential. This can be compensated for by equipping air-to-air missiles, which sacrifices a bit of mobility for the option to save ammunition.

Suspended armament

Main articles: RB24, srak m/57B

The J32B can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 38 x srak m/57B rockets
  • 4 x RB24 missiles
  • 2 x RB24 missiles + 38 x srak m/57B rockets

Usage in battles

Basics

Being an interceptor by nature, staying fast remains a priority above anything else. In order to achieve this, the J32B likes to avoid strong aerial maneuvers by keeping altitude and utilizing boom & zoom tactics. For a new pilot, especially one coming from the J29D or J29F, the luxury of an afterburner shouldn't be much of a surprise. The J32B keeps speed much better than the afterburning Tunnan, while still offering high firepower and vertical energy to boot. This compensates for the sluggish performance the plane shows in aerial combat. A newer pilot should stick to altitude, as the higher areas of the map are sometimes inaccessible by other enemies. It's still important to locate enemies with the same strengths as the J32B. These include the Hunter FGA.9, F-100A, Shenyang F-5, and the F3H-2, among many others. These, along with all other missile-carrying fighters, will make flying the J32B a pilots nightmare. The subsonic fighters at lower battle ratings are easy to fend off, requiring mostly speed and slight banking maneuvers. But the planes placed between 9.0-9.7 pose as a strong counter to the J32B, as they force it to maneuver. Do not fly straight when enemies attack you from behind. Flying straight ensures that anyone behind you has a chance to shoot you down. Even if the J32B handles like a bus, it's always worth trying to avoid any damage possible, as it will only lower your chances of survival.

Landing

One of the larger difficulties with the J32B is landing. The J32B is very good at staying fast, even without engine thrust. With a slow turn-rate, slowing down becomes even harder. Although the air-brake on the J32B isn’t very large in comparison to other transonic fighters, it does still work, giving the plane some extra deceleration. When below ~500 kph, the J32B can deploy its Fowler-design flaps, which cause intense drag, slowing the plane down to much more manageable speeds. The landing approach should be done at around 300 kph to prevent landing flaps from ripping. This speed should be higher if the plane is out of fuel, as staying at 300 kph has to be done with the help of some engine throttle. If the J32B approaches below 300 kph without an engine, the plane won't be able to nose up before touchdown, due to the bad stall-speed of around 200 kph. When the J32B has finally touched the landing strip, it’s important to keep holding brakes, as the J32B needs as much runway as possible. If the J32B is approaching the end of the runway, the J32B can emergency drift by using full rudder below 100 kph. Although this may result in a broken wing, it’s usually better than overshooting the landing strip.

Aggressive play-style

A J32B pilot comfortable with trigger patience, aerial maneuverability, and central awareness can slowly attempt to push the J32B to its limits. The J32B, especially when spaded, shows incredible and almost unmatched energy retention even at higher tiers. Combined with a weak turn radius and strong acceleration, the J32B can easily throw itself into any engagement, choosing to disengage whenever it pleases. This mentality can be further enhanced by making the aircraft as light as possible, taking only 20 minutes of fuel, and sometimes disregarding suspended armaments entirely. With spaded performance and minimal weight, the J32B will stay above 1100 kph no matter the aerial maneuver, giving it the ability to escape no matter what's behind it. This also mitigates the sidewinder issue the J32B suffers from. When the J32B has the ability to continuously turn without losing speed, nobody will have the ability to achieve a perfect lock-on state. A J32B pilot still needs to be aware of incoming gunfire since cutting this turn can be easily achieved. This can be easily improved on by shifting direction every once in a while, making the chasing opponent lose speed in the process. When combined with some training, The J32B turns into a unbeatable defensive flyer compared to the usual cannon-fodder experience. It is worth noting that this play-style is incredibly challenging for inexperienced J32B pilots, as it requires incredible trigger patience and G-load awareness. Anyone looking to play this aggressive approach can always go for less drastic changes, by still taking suspended armaments, or only focusing slow opponents.

Dealing with Supersonic Aircraft

As the J32B sits at the very edge of the transsonic era, it's no surprice the vehicle faces off opponents far more advanced and powerful. When the J32B is the fastest plane in a match, it's quite common to play passively and safe, as nobody has the ability to reach it. But as the J32B goes head-to-head with an F-4E, the Lansen stands no chance of getting away. The general goal becomes to avoid cannon fire and incoming missiles, which can be best achieved by staying low on the deck, cruising at maximum speed. If engaged with an enemy, the J32B should go back to the primary objective of retaining speed and energy while still pulling as hard as possible. The play-style doesn't change a lot from the aggressive one, as the Rb24 missiles become even more dead weight than before, and lasting longer than 20 minutes is more of an miracle than a expectation. One overlooked detail is how the J32B now turns better in comparison, as fully loaded Phantom and MiG-21's struggle to keep with it. Heavy F-4EJ's need to dump tons of speed to even marginally cut the turning radius of the J32B. This can be exploited by a veteran pilot, as this opens up opportunities to energy-trap and finish off the cumbersome phantom. the more lightweight deltas such as the MiG-21 and Mirage meet different fates, as they easily cut the turn from the start, forcing the J32B to maneuver. However, as the J32B doesn't loose energy compared to the aggressor, it can easily keep turning until the enemy runs out of speed to follow up with, allowing the J32B to swoop in for a finishing blow.

Some small advice would be to avoid other transonic / slower supersonic planes, as they will gravitate to using the same tactic as the J32B, but with greater success. Planes like the MiG-19S, MiG-19PT, and the Q-5 all excel at retaining speed like the Lansen, making it impossible to shake them off. If the J32B comes across a dire situation where several opponents are behind it, it's important to keep turning no matter what! Opponents behind the J32B get a guaranteed kill if the plane flies directly straight, as it allows their sidewinders to lead properly. A continuously turning J32B is almost impossible to missile from directly behind.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Excellent top speed - outruns most subsonic opponents
  • 4 x 30 mm Akan m/55 - incredible burst mass and damage
  • 4 x RB24 air-to-air missiles - highly potent missiles against adversaries
  • Powerful afterburning engine - excellent acceleration & energy retention
  • Integrated radar
  • Above-average roll-rate
  • Resistant to high-G manoeuvres (up to 10Gs)
  • Decent pilot protection & airframe endurance
  • Fowler flap design - provides excellent lift at low speeds

Cons:

  • Mediocre manoeuvrability, almost every opponent it faces can out-manoeuvre it
  • Difficult to land - landing flaps rip at 300 km/h
  • Very inefficient air-brake design - requires high angle-of-attack or aggressive banking to slow down
  • Large target - Easy to hit
  • High rate of fire - ammunition will deplete very quickly, trigger control required
  • High repair cost with all modifications installed in Realistic Battles

History

In the year 1948, SAAB started to develop a new type of multi purpose aircraft with capabilities such as a strike-fighter, interceptor or reconnaissance aircraft. The project was called P1150 and had the intent to replace the B18, J21A, A21R and the J30 aircraft. After some testing, a swept wing design typical for the time period was decided upon. After some testing with a Swedish jet engine design called the Dovern, it was decided that the engine lacked the desired power so a swap to the British Rolls-Royce Avon Mk.21 engine was decided upon due to its ability to produce more power without its afterburner on than the Dovern could even with the afterburner engaged. The airplane was designated the Saab 32 Lansen and flew for the first time in November 1952 with Bengt Olow as pilot.

A total of 447 aircraft were delivered to the Swedish Air Force from 1955 until 1960. These were modified and renovated until its retirement in 1997. A total of 10 variants were in service, including the prototype P1150.

Media

Images
Videos

See also

  • A32A - Attack variant of the same aircraft

External links


Swedish Aeroplane Company Ltd. (SAAB)
Pre-SAAB: ASJA  J6B
Fighters  J21A-1 · J21A-2 · A21A-3
Jet fighters  A21RB · J21RA · J29A · A29B · J29D · J29F · J32B · J35A · J35D · JA37C · JA37D · JAS39A
Jet attackers  A32A · A32A Röd Adam · AJ37 · AJS37 · SAAB-105G · SK60B
Bombers  B17A · B17B · S17BS
Dive-bombers  B3C · B18A · B18B · T18B · T18B (57)
Export  SAAB-105OE · Saab J35XS · JAS39C · ◔JAS39EBS HU C

Sweden jet aircraft
Fighters  J21RA
  J29A · A29B · J29D · J29F
  J32B
  J34
  J35A · J35D
  JA37C · JA37D
  JAS39A
Strike aircraft  A21RB
  A32A · A32A Röd Adam
  A28B
  AJ37 · AJS37
  SK60B · SAAB-105G
Export  SAAB-105OE
Finland  ▄Vampire FB 52A · ▄MiG-21bis · Saab J35XS