He 177 A-5

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He 177 A-5
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Description

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The He 177 A-5 Greif is a rank IV German heavy bomber with a battle rating of 6.3 (AB/SB) and 6.0 (RB). This bomber was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm" as part of the revenue share program. It was created by Daniil "Joy_Division__" Zaytsev.

The Heinkel He 177 A-5 is a heavy bomber that excels at destroying stationary targets such as pillboxes and bases from altitude. Its speed allows to bomb one base or two before confronting any enemy plane and then withdrawing back in shallow dive. Even if an enemy is trying to intercept you, your defensive armament in manual mode would keep it at bay.

Although the He 177 A-5 looks like a twin-engine bomber, it has the power of a four-engined bomber, because the DB 610 engine is actually made up of two DB 605 engines coupled together to turn a single propeller.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 6 500 m555 km/h
Turn time31 s
Max altitude10 000 m
Engine2 х Daimler-Benz DB-610
TypeInline
Cooling systemWater
Take-off weight31 t
Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 6,500 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
531 518 10000 32.2 33.4 5.9 5.9 1,600
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 6,500 m)
Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
582 555 10000 29.8 31.0 10.5 8.0 1,600

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flap
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
0 260 450 ~?? ~?
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 300 < 310 < 360 > 715
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
5,700 m 2,520 hp 2,797 hp

Survivability and armour

Crew6 people
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear260 km/h
  • 9 mm Steel plates in pilot’s seat
  • 7 mm Steel plate under the entire cockpit
  • 9 mm Steel plate in front of the front dorsal gunner
  • 7 mm Steel plates on cockpit roof around front dorsal gunner
  • 7 mm Steel plates around rear dorsal gunner
  • 7 mm Steel box in front of the rear dorsal gunner
  • 57 mm Bulletproof glass in front of tail gunner
  • 9 mm Steel plates around the bottom and front of tail gunner
  • Self-sealing fuel tanks (2 in frontal fuselage, 2 in central fuselage, 2 in each wing)

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 113 → 4 295 Sl icon.png
RB8 385 → 11 571 Sl icon.png
SB16 664 → 22 996 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications61 300 Rp icon.png
102 300 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 800 Ge icon.png
Crew training61 000 Sl icon.png
Experts210 000 Sl icon.png
Aces1 200 Ge icon.png
Research Aces570 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
100 / 210 / 570 % Sl icon.png
178 / 178 / 178 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
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Fuselage repair
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 300 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 300 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
2 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 700 Sl icon.png
270 Ge icon.png
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
2 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 700 Sl icon.png
270 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
3 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Research:
3 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
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Cover
Research:
3 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 500 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Research:
3 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 500 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
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EFS
Research:
3 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 500 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
mg_turret_belt_pack
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 300 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
SC 250
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 300 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods ammo.png
mg15120_turret_belt_pack
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 300 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods napalm fire bomb.png
Flamm C 250
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 300 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
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mg81_turret_new_gun
Research:
2 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 700 Sl icon.png
270 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
SC 500
Research:
2 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 700 Sl icon.png
270 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods napalm fire bomb.png
Flamm C 500
Research:
2 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 700 Sl icon.png
270 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
mg131_turret_belt_pack
Research:
3 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
SC 1000
Research:
3 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods turret gun.png
mg15120_turret_new_gun
Research:
3 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mods turret gun.png
mg131_turret_new_gun
Research:
3 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 500 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
SC 1800
Research:
3 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 500 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow right 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
FX 1400
Research:
3 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 500 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Suspended armament

List of setups (13)
Setup 148 x 50 kg SC50JA bomb
Setup 212 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb
Setup 36 x 500 kg SC500K bomb
Setup 44 x 1000 kg SC1000L2 bomb
Setup 52 x 1800 kg SC1800B bomb
Setup 62 x 1800 kg SC1800B bomb
6 x 500 kg SC500K bomb
Setup 73 x PC 1400 X (Fritz X)
Setup 812 x Flam C 250 incendiary bomb
Setup 96 x Flam C 500 incendiary bomb
Setup 106 x 500 kg PC500 armor-piercing bomb
Setup 114 x 1000 kg PC1000 armor-piercing bomb
Setup 122 x 1600 kg PC1600 armor-piercing bomb
Setup 132 x 1600 kg PC1600 armor-piercing bomb
6 x 500 kg PC500 armor-piercing bomb
Main article: Suspended armaments

The He 177 A-5 can be outfitted with the following ordinance:

  • 48 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (2,400 kg total)
  • 12 x 250 kg SC250JA bombs (3,000 kg total)
  • 6 x 500 kg SC500K bombs (3,000 kg total)
  • 4 x 1,000 kg SC1000L2 bombs (4,000 kg total)
  • 2 x 1,800 kg SC1800B bombs (3,600 kg total)
  • 2 x 1,800 kg SC1800B bombs + 6 x 500 kg SC500K bombs (6,600 kg total)
  • 3 x 1,400 kg PC 1400 X (Fritz X) bombs (4,200 kg total)

Defensive armament

Turret20 mm MG 151 cannon
Ammunition300 rounds
Fire rate750 shots/min
Turret20 mm MG 151 cannon
Ammunition800 rounds
Fire rate750 shots/min
2 х Turret13 mm MG 131 machine gun
Ammunition1000 rounds
Fire rate900 shots/min
Turret2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gun
Ammunition2000 rounds
Fire rate900 shots/min
Turret7.92 mm MG 81 machine gun
Ammunition1000 rounds
Fire rate1597 shots/min

The He 177 A-5 can defend itself with:

  • 1 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon, chin turret (300 rpg)
  • 1 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon, tail turret (800 rpg)
  • 2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gun, front dorsal turret (1,000 rpg = 2,000 rpg)
  • 1 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gun, rear dorsal turret (1,000 rpg)
  • 1 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gun, ventral turret (1,000 rpg)
  • 1 x 7.92 mm MG 81 machine gun, nose turret (1,000 rpg)

Usage in battles

He-177 flying in War Thunder

Combining the speed and handling of the Do 217 and the immense payload of the Lancaster along with defensive armament approaching that of the American bombers, the He 177 Greif is an outstanding heavy bomber. Its max payload of 2 x 1,800 kg and 6 x 500 kg bombs is easily the best of its contemporaries when it comes to demolishing bases in AB and airfields in RB/SB. Other payloads are quite useful depending on the bombing objectives in RB/SB: 6 x 500 kg against bases (3 per bases), 4 x 1000 kg and 2 x 1800 kg for aircraft carriers and airfields.

The He 177 bears some similarities to the Do 217 series. It has an exceptionally high dive speed for a heavy bomber and is capable of reaching up to 700 km/h in a dive. It is, however, more manoeuvrable at high speeds, one has to be careful not to overload the wings. The two engines (which are really two V12 DB 605 engines coupled together to drive one four-bladed propeller, making them essentially 24 cylinder engines) are very powerful, but at the same time more vulnerable to damage.

The defensive armament of the Greif is very good by German standards, consisting primarily of 13 mm MG 131 heavy machine guns, completed with 2 MG 151/20 cannons, one in front and one in tail turret. The large tail fin prevents the dorsal turrets from firing directly to the rear, leaving only the MG 151/20, however.

Climbing and bombing

The He 177 A-5 will spawn at 4.5 km as a long-range bomber and as such, it's much easier to get out the reach of interceptors. Do some side climbing, reach 5,000 m after game start (speed will decrease to 250 km/h, but still fine) and continue with a 5-degree climb. Remember, this aircraft is not a dive bomber and should not be treated as such.

In order to do side climbing, you should upgrade the engine parts and then, just go ASAP to the ETC 1000/I module. After this upgrade, you will be able to carry 4 x 1,000 kg bombs which can be used to destroy up to 4 bases (no external wing carried bombs here).

After upgrading engine parts and getting ETC 1000/I, it's time to climb and boom! Just go for the nearest base after reaching +6,000 m altitude. Then, it's done. Be careful of enemy interceptors which may snake their way up to your altitude, because you are really vulnerable at low speeds, hence the recommendation to side-climb. Side-climbing will help pilot have enough time to reach high altitudes, and lay in a bombing run.

Some notes:

  • You should use combat flaps when bombing airfield to decrease speed (there's a chance of not hitting the airfield)
  • Protect your aircraft as the repair costs are 40,000 Silver Lions.
  • Losing one flap will cause instability, just be careful!

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable Controllable Controllable Separate Not ontrollable Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Radiator Turret 7 mm ETC 250/IV Turret 20 mm
II Compressor Airframe New 7 mm MGs (turret) ETC 500/II
III Wing Repair Engines Turret 13 mm ETC 1000/I New 20 mm cannons (turret)
IV Engine Injection Cover New 13 mm MGs (turret) ETC 1800 FX 1400

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Heavy defensive weaponry with accurate 13 mm and 20 mm turrets
  • Plenty of bomb load options, with a maximum bomb load of four 1,000 kg bombs
  • Can carry all 4 x 1,000kg SC1000L2 bombs in the bomb bay, so He 177 A-5 can get 3-4 bases at first spawn in realistic battles
  • One of only three heavy bombers for Germany, and the only high-rank heavy bomber in the tech tree
  • Capable of speeds of up to 530 km/h or 340 mph in level flight
  • First spawn at long-range bombers' altitude, which will help get altitude over interceptors and other fighters
  • Good climb rate, can easily make it to 6.5 km altitude
  • Dual engine aerodynamic, make it quite manoeuvrable for a heavy bomber
  • Combat flaps are really useful for decreasing airspeed
  • Fritz X guided bomb is very effective against destroyers and other slow-moving ships (drop from +2,000 m)
  • High SL multiplier, very good money making

Cons:

  • Plane is vulnerable in frontal engagement due to the absence of copilot and the glazed nose
  • Engines overheat very quickly when activating WEP and when the cooling system is empty
  • Vulnerable from side attacks
  • Expensive repair cost for RB and higher than average on AB and SB
  • No air brakes for a heavy bomber which increases landing difficulty
  • Being a heavy bomber means that you can't take off from medium airfields
  • Quickly overheats above 5,500 m
  • Engines oil cooler and flaps are vulnerable against machine guns fire
  • Incapable of flying with one engine only, will keep losing altitude and eventually will have to land or crash
  • Incredibly expensive repair cost, 50,000+ SL in RB when fully upgraded

History

Development of the He 177 began in 1936 as part of the Bomber A specifications issued by the German Air Ministry (RLM). The specifications called for a long-range, high-speed bomber with a payload of 1,000 kg. Despite the very demanding specifications, Heinkel began working on a mockup which was submitted for review in late 1937, with an order for 12 experimental machines following shortly after in early 1939. However, throughout its development, the He 177 suffered from a range of problems, some of which weren’t even fixed before further development stopped. For example, one of the requirements (which was soon rejected, since it was impossible to implement) from the Air Ministry was the ability to bomb from a dive, that’s why the engineers had to make various workarounds to provide the required flight technical characteristics. To reduce aerodynamic drag and to ensure flight range, two DB 601 engines were installed in pairs on one gondola and worked with a common shaft which rotated one four-bladed propeller. Thanks to this it was possible to create the aircraft using a two-engined scheme. But for this reason, the vehicle suffered from severe engine overheating issues and more often than not experienced mid-flight engine failures and frequent fires. In the process of fine-tuning the aircraft, the weight was significantly increased, so it became necessary to install a massive frame which could not be hidden - a relatively thin wing or tightly packed nacelles wouldn't fit. As a result, each frame was divided into two racks, each with a single wheel that could be retracted into the wing on opposite sides of the nacelle.

By 1944, development of the He 177 was considered finished, but by that time, the fortune of war had already turned on Germany and the need for a complex strategic bomber had faded. Nonetheless, over 1,000 He 177s were produced across several variants, with most machines seeing action on the Eastern front. However, despite being made in large numbers, the aircraft ultimately failed to make a difference in the war’s outcome as its design maturity came too late, although some of the built vehicles were also used after war’s end.

- From Devblog

Media

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Heinkel Aircraft Company (Heinkel Flugzeugwerke)
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  He 100 D-1
  He 112 A-0 · He 112 B-0 · He 112 V-5
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