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{{About
 
{{About
 
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other uses
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| usage = other versions
 
| link = Fw 190 (Family)
 
| link = Fw 190 (Family)
 
}}
 
}}
  
 
== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. This fighter has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.29.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.
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The 190 who thought it was a Stuka. The F-8 version is a peculiar one, designed to replace the ageing Ju 87 series, but could never fully replace it this late into the war (1944). As an attacker, this Focke Wulf gains mid-air start on most maps which can either be used to get to ground targets quickly or get the jump on climbing fighters. Keep in mind though that the very heavy F-8 is not designed for dogfights and will suffer in any fighter engagement. The F-8 is perhaps one of the most versatile Fw-190s in the game, though it tends to be outperformed in most categories by more specialised planes.
  
The 190 who thought it's a Stuka. The F-8 version is a peculiar one, designed to replace the the aging Ju 87 series, it could never fully replace it this late into the war (1944). As an attacker this Focke Wulf gains mid-air start on most maps which can either be used to get to ground targets quickly, or get the jump on climbing fighters. Keep in mind though that the very heavy F-8 is not designed for dogfights and will suffer in any fighter engagement. The F-8 is perhaps one of the most versatile Fw-190s in the game, though it tends to be outperformed in most categories by more specialized planes.
 
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
=== Flight Performance ===
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=== Flight performance ===
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
|-
 
|-
! AB
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
 
|-
 
|-
|603||583|| {{Specs|ceiling}} ||24.8||25.3||9.3||11.6||453
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| 605 || 585 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 24.5 || 25.5 || 11.7 || 11.7 || 453
 
|-
 
|-
 
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
|-
 
|-
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 5,400 m)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 5,400 m)
! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
|-
 
|-
! AB
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
 
|-
 
|-
| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? ||453
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| ??? || 635 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || 23.2 || ??.? || 15.8 || 453
 
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|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
====Details====
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==== Details ====
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
 
! colspan="5" | Features
 
! colspan="5" | Features
 
|-
 
|-
! Combat flap
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! Combat flaps
! Take-off flap
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! Take-off flaps
! Landing flap
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! Landing flaps
 
! Air brakes
 
! Air brakes
 
! Arrestor gear
 
! Arrestor gear
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
 
! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
 
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
 
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flaps<br>(km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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! -
 
! -
 
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| {{Specs|разрушение|конструкции}} || {{Specs|разрушение|шасси}} ||N/A|| ~19 || ~19
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| {{Specs|destruction|constructions}} || {{Specs|destruction|chassis}} || 900 || ~13 || ~6
 
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
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|-
| < 420 || < 510 || < 510 || > 280
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| < 420 || < 240 || < 550 || > 280
 
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! WEP Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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| 1,500 m || 1,602 hp || 1,954 hp  
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| 700 m || 1,498 hp || 1,874 hp
 
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! colspan="3" | Setting 2
 
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
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! WEP Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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| 5,900 m || 1,478 hp || 1,804 hp  
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| 5,300 m || 1,301 hp || 1,628 hp
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<!--! colspan="3" | Setting 3
 
 
|-
 
|-
! Optimal altitude
 
! 100% Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
 
|- -->
 
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* 6 mm Steel - Fore cowl ring
 
* 6 mm Steel - Fore cowl ring
 
* 10 mm Steel - Cowl ring
 
* 10 mm Steel - Cowl ring
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 131 (13 mm)}}
 
{{main|MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 131 (13 mm)}}
  
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with the following:
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
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* 2 x 20 mm MG 151/20 cannons, wing-mounted (250 rpg = 500 total)
* 4 x 20 mm MG 151/20 cannon, wing-mounted (250 rpg = 500 total)
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* 2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine guns, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)
* 2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gun, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)
 
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|SC50JA (50 kg)|SC250JA (250 kg)|SC500K (500 kg)|SC1000L2 (1,000 kg)|Pb2}}
 
{{main|SC50JA (50 kg)|SC250JA (250 kg)|SC500K (500 kg)|SC1000L2 (1,000 kg)|Pb2}}
 
{{main|MK 103 (30 mm)}}
 
{{main|MK 103 (30 mm)}}
  
Payload options for the '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' include:
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
 
 
* Without load
 
* Without load
* 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs
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* 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (200 kg total)
* 8 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs
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* 8 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (400 kg total)
* 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb
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* 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb (250 kg total)
* 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs + 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb
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* 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb + 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (450 kg total)
* 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb
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* 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb (500 kg total)
* 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs + 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb
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* 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb + 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (700 kg total)
* 1 x 1000 kg SC1000L2 bomb
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* 1 x 1,000 kg SC1000L2 bomb (1,000 kg total)
* 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs + 1 x 1000 kg SC1000L2 bomb
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* 1 x 1,000 kg SC1000L2 bomb + 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (1,200 kg total)
* 2 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, wing-mounted (35 rpg = 70 total)
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* 2 x 30 mm MK 103 cannons, gunpods (wing-mounted) (35 rpg = 70 total)
 
* 14 x Pb2 rockets
 
* 14 x Pb2 rockets
  
== Usage in the battles ==
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== Usage in battles ==
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The Fw-190 F-8 possesses far below average speed, acceleration and climb ability for its rank. If you spot a bandit at the same altitude, a recommended tactic is to head-on attack, followed by an evasive manoeuvre and then extending away to repeat the processes. If a bandit has superior energy/altitude and is trying to attack you, try to drag them to friendlies, but don't sacrifice too much altitude to do so. If you are skilled enough, another tactic would be to initiate scissors; either rolling or flat, and then break away when he goes to yo-yo to control his overshoot. The scissors manoeuvre is a highly effective manoeuvre in the 190s. Many good pilots have dismembered many superior aircraft simply because of the roll rate and firepower this plane possesses. If you are clever enough to press for a gun solution when scissoring an enemy, you could be greatly rewarded.
  
In summary for the unintended fighter-role, climb to the side or continue climbing when starting mid-air, BnZ like a champion, never get in a sustained turn fight, and use the rate of roll to free yourself when cornered. The F-8 is most likely to be successful in realistic battles when used as a ground-attacker or bomber hunter. B-17s and Halifaxes are unlikely to fly at higher altitudes than the F-8 can perform at, which allows for the F-8s armament (especially with the 30mm gun pods) and decent durability to be useful while not being held back by its relatively poor dogfighting capability. It is best to make quick, diving attack passes targeting the wings and engines before extending out to avoid return fire from the bomber's defensive guns. Do not turn back until you are at least 1 km away from the bomber to avoid being an easy target. Until the frontal gun pods are unlocked, 2-3 passes may be required to fully destroy a bomber. Frontal attacks can also be effective, with the engines and cockpit both viable targets, but with the trade-off being less time to shoot at the target (this goes both ways, you won't be in the range of defensive guns for very long either).
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In summary for the unintended fighter-role, climb to the side or continue climbing when starting mid-air, Boom & Zoom like a champion, never get in a sustained turn fight, and use the rate of roll to free yourself when cornered. The F-8 is most likely to be successful in realistic battles when used as a ground-attacker or bomber hunter. [[B-17 (Family)|B-17s]] and [[Halifax B Mk IIIa|Halifaxes]] are unlikely to fly at higher altitudes than the F-8 can perform at, which allows for the F-8s armament (especially with the 30 mm gunpods) and decent durability to be useful while not being held back by its relatively poor dogfighting capability. It is best to make quick, diving attack passes targeting the wings and engines before extending out to avoid return fire from the bomber's defensive guns. Do not turn back until you are at least 1 km away from the bomber to avoid being an easy target. Until the frontal gunpods are unlocked, 2-3 passes may be required to fully destroy a bomber. Frontal attacks can also be effective especially with the engines and cockpit both viable targets, but with the trade-off being less time to shoot at the target (this goes both ways, you won't be in the range of defensive guns for very long either).
  
In combined forces battles, the Fw-190 F-8 can carry a wider range of ordinance than most other German fighters, allowing for ground-attack using rockets, gun pods, or bombs. The 1000 kg bomb is unique to F-8 among German fighters; while the Do-335 (A-1 & B-2 variants) and Me-410 (A1 & B1 variants) can carry 1,000 kg of bombs, they can only carry 250 kg and 500 kg bombs. The F-8 combines the ability to carry heavy ordinance while still retaining decent fighting capability after dropping said ordinance.
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In combined forces battles, the Fw-190 F-8 can carry a wider range of ordinance than most other German fighters, allowing for ground-attack using rockets, gun pods, or bombs. The 1000 kg bomb is unique to F-8 among German fighters; while the [[Do 335 (Family)|Do 335 (A-1 & B-2 variants)]] and [[Me 410 (Family)|Me-410 (A1 & B1 variants)]] can carry 1,000 kg worth of bombs, they can only carry 250 kg and 500 kg bombs. The F-8 combines the ability to carry heavy ordinance while still retaining decent fighting capability after dropping said ordinance.
  
===Manual Engine Control===
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=== Manual Engine Control ===
 
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
 
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
 
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
 
|-
 
|-
! rowspan="2" |Mixer
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! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" |Pitch
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! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" |Radiator
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! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" |Supercharger
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! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger
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! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
 
|-
 
|-
 
! Oil
 
! Oil
 
! Water
 
! Water
! Type  
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! Type
 
|-
 
|-
| Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable || rowspan="2" |Combined|| rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable
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| Not controllable || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable<br>2 gears || Not controllable
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
===Modules===
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=== Modules ===
The attacker "Würger" has such awful responsiveness from the elevator, that anything which improves turn rate should have the highest priority. Otherwise, it will kiss the ground more a lot more than cows do! Don't forget, it needs to dive-bomb to hit anything. And grinding the bombs cannot be forgotten!! This is an attacker, so it needs the payload unlocks, but without performance upgrades, it is just pain to fly. A detour to the new belts could be considered, but two 20 mm cannons are enough to handle any ground units even with stock ammunition, especially as the other performance upgrades are necessary as well due the F-8's great weight.
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The attacker "Würger" has such awful responsiveness from the elevator that anything which improves turn rate should have the highest priority. Otherwise, it will kiss the ground more than cows do! Don't forget, it needs to dive-bomb to hit anything. And grinding the bombs cannot be forgotten!! This is an attacker, so it needs the payload unlocks, but without performance upgrades, it is just a pain to fly. A detour to the new belts could be considered, but two 20 mm cannons are enough to handle any ground units even with stock ammunition, especially as the other performance upgrades are necessary as well due the F-8's great weight.
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{| class="wikitable"
 
{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="1" | Tier
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! Tier
 
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
 
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
! colspan="1" | Survivability
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! Survivability
 
! colspan="3" | Weaponry
 
! colspan="3" | Weaponry
 
|-
 
|-
 
| I
 
| I
| Fuselage Repair
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| Fuselage repair
 
| Radiator
 
| Radiator
|  
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| Offensive 13 mm
 
| Offensive 13 mm
 
| ETC 501 I
 
| ETC 501 I
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|-
 
| II
 
| II
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| Compressor
 
| Compressor
 
| Airframe
 
| Airframe
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|-
 
| III
 
| III
| Wings Repair
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| Wings repair
 
| Engine
 
| Engine
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| Offensive 20 mm
 
| Offensive 20 mm
 
| ETC 501 II
 
| ETC 501 II
| ETC 502 + ER 4 II
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| ETC 501 + ER 4 II
 
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| IV
 
| IV
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| Engine Injection
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| Engine injection
 
| Cover
 
| Cover
 
| New 20 mm cannons
 
| New 20 mm cannons
| R3 Modification
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| R3 modification
 
| Offensive 30 mm
 
| Offensive 30 mm
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
 
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* Plenty of ammo for the armaments
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* The 30 mm gun pods (with the glorious minengeschoss shells), steady rate of climb, air spawn, and decent durability combine to make for a potent bomber hunter in realistic battles
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* Carrying the 30 mm cannon pods do not have a significant reduction on flight performance when compared to the bombs
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* 30 mm HVAP rounds can deal with any surface target except pillboxes
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* Ability to carry up to 1,200 kgs of payload, and is the only Fw 190 besides Dora series and the A5/U2 that can carry bombs
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* Comes stock with 250 kg and 50 kg bomb options
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* Access to 30 mm Mk 103 gun pods, Pb2 HEAT rockets, and a 1,000 kg bomb, which aren't available on any other German single-engine fighter
 
* Great roll rate
 
* Great roll rate
 
* Great energy retention
 
* Great energy retention
 
* Climb rate is consistent until 6,000 m altitude
 
* Climb rate is consistent until 6,000 m altitude
 
* Can WEP pretty much nonstop
 
* Can WEP pretty much nonstop
* The 30 mm gun pods (with the glorious minengeschoss shells), steady rate of climb, air spawn, and decent durability combine to make for a potent bomber hunter in realistic battles
 
* The only Fw 190 besides Dora series and the A5/U2 that can carry bombs
 
* Ability to carry up to 1,200 kgs of payload
 
* Comes stock with 250 kg and 50 kg bomb options, with 500 kg and 1,000 kg available as researchable modifications
 
* Plenty of ammo
 
* Access to 30 mm Mk 103 gun pods, Pb2 HEAT rockets, and 1,000 kg bomb, which aren't available on any other German single-engine fighter
 
* Carrying the 30 mm cannon pods do not have a significant reduction on flight performance when compared to the bombs
 
 
* Well armoured from the front
 
* Well armoured from the front
 
* Excellent tank busting capability
 
* Excellent tank busting capability
* Can potentially win a game single-handedly if left unchecked
 
* 30 mm HVAP rounds can deal with any surface target except pillboxes
 
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
 
* Poor turn rate that many Medium Bombers can beat
 
* Elevator has low responsibility & effect on low-medium speeds
 
* 30mm cannons are mounted on the wings, therefore, is inaccurate
 
* Firing the 30mm cannons creates recoil within the plane
 
* Maneuverability at low speeds is bad
 
 
* Generally outclassed by other 190 models when it comes to air to air combat
 
* Generally outclassed by other 190 models when it comes to air to air combat
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* 30 mm cannons are mounted on the wings, therefore, is relatively inaccurate compared to nose-mounted
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* Firing the 30 mm cannons creates recoil within the plane
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* Poor turn rate that many medium bombers can beat
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* Manoeuvrability suffers at low speeds
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* Elevator has low response & effect at low-medium speeds
 
* Bad climb rate for an Fw 190 especially with payloads
 
* Bad climb rate for an Fw 190 especially with payloads
 
* WEP doesn't significantly boost performance
 
* WEP doesn't significantly boost performance
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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=== In-game description ===
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The Focke-Wulf Fw 190 Wuerger (Shrike) was a single-seat single-engine monoplane fighter used by the Luftwaffe in WWII. One of the best fighters of the time, it was widely used during the Second World War. A total of over 20,000 were produced, including some 6,000 fighter-bomber variants. The 190 remained in production from 1941 until the end of the war, going through multiple redesigns. The Fw 190 made a name for itself as a true Luftwaffe workhorse and was used in a wide variety of roles, including a high-altitude interceptor (especially the Fw 190D), escort fighter, fighter-bomber and night fighter.
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The Fw 190 F-8 was the most mass-produced variant of the Fw 190 F series, based on the Fw 190 A-8. By March 1944, Fw 190 F-8s were also produced by the Arado company in Warnemuende, and by April the NDW company in Wismar. The aircraft was powered by the BMW 801 D-2 engine with improved injector on the compressor, which provided emergency power for up to 10-15 minutes at 1,000 meters of altitude. Otherwise, the plane's equipment was largely similar to the A-8, although the FuG 16 ZY radio was replaced with the FuG 16 ZS in April 1944. This allowed direct communication with ground troops on the battlefield. A distinctive characteristic of the F-8 was a widened rear canopy. The new canopy was introduced in the latter half of 1944. It improved forward and downward visibility, which was very important for ground attack. On-board armament consisted of twin MG 131 machine guns in the fuselage and two MG 151/20E cannon in the wings.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
 
 
== Read also ==
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
 
  
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== See also ==
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''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 
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== Sources ==
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Latest revision as of 09:07, 16 July 2019

Fw 190 F-8
fw-190f-8.png
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
4.3/4.7/5.3BR
1 personCrew
6.0 tTake-off weight
Flight characteristics
BMW 801 TUEngine
RadialType
airCooling system
Speed of destruction
912 km/hStructural
310 km/hGear
Offensive armament
2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannonWeapon 1
500 roundsAmmunition
750 shots/minFire rate
2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gunWeapon 2
800 roundsAmmunition
900 shots/minFire rate
Suspended armament
4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombSetup 1
8 x 50 kg SC50JA bombSetup 2
1 x 250 kg SC250JA bombSetup 3
4 x 50 kg SC50JA bomb
1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb
Setup 4
1 x 500 kg SC500K bombSetup 5
4 x 50 kg SC50JA bomb
1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb
Setup 6
1 x 1000 kg SC1000L2 bombSetup 7
4 x 50 kg SC50JA bomb
1 x 1000 kg SC1000L2 bomb
Setup 8
2 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon (secondary)Setup 9
14 x Pb2 rocketsSetup 10
Economy
54 000 Rp icon.pngResearch
180 000 Sl icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png8 000 / 10 176/7 220 / 9 183/2 900 / 3 688Repair
52 000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
180 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
940 Ge icon.pngAces
× (166) % Rp icon.pngReward for battle
× 3.2 Sl icon.png× 2.5 Sl icon.png× 1.1 Sl icon.png
This page is about the German fighter Fw 190 F-8. For other versions, see Fw 190 (Family).

Description

GarageImage Fw 190 F-8.jpg


The Fw 190 F-8 is a rank IV German fighter with a battle rating of 5.3 (AB), 4.7 (RB), and 4.3 (SB). It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

The 190 who thought it was a Stuka. The F-8 version is a peculiar one, designed to replace the ageing Ju 87 series, but could never fully replace it this late into the war (1944). As an attacker, this Focke Wulf gains mid-air start on most maps which can either be used to get to ground targets quickly or get the jump on climbing fighters. Keep in mind though that the very heavy F-8 is not designed for dogfights and will suffer in any fighter engagement. The F-8 is perhaps one of the most versatile Fw-190s in the game, though it tends to be outperformed in most categories by more specialised planes.

General info

Flight performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 5,400 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
605 585 24.5 25.5 11.7 11.7 453
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 5,400 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ??? 635  ??.? 23.2  ??.? 15.8 453

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flaps
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
900 ~13 ~6
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 420 < 240 < 550 > 280
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
700 m 1,498 hp 1,874 hp
Setting 2
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
5,300 m 1,301 hp 1,628 hp

Survivability and armour

  • 6 mm Steel - Fore cowl ring
  • 10 mm Steel - Cowl ring
  • 6 mm Steel - Under engine armour
  • 8 mm Steel - Under cockpit/fuel tank armour plate
  • 5 mm Steel - Rear fuel tank armour
  • 8 mm Steel - Pilot's chair armour
  • 6 mm Steel - Pilot's chair armour
  • 12 mm Steel - Headrest armour
  • 57 mm Bulletproof glass - armoured windscreen

Armaments

Offensive armament

The Fw 190 F-8 is armed with:

  • 2 x 20 mm MG 151/20 cannons, wing-mounted (250 rpg = 500 total)
  • 2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine guns, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)

Suspended armament

Main article: MK 103 (30 mm)

The Fw 190 F-8 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (200 kg total)
  • 8 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (400 kg total)
  • 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb (250 kg total)
  • 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb + 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (450 kg total)
  • 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb (500 kg total)
  • 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb + 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (700 kg total)
  • 1 x 1,000 kg SC1000L2 bomb (1,000 kg total)
  • 1 x 1,000 kg SC1000L2 bomb + 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (1,200 kg total)
  • 2 x 30 mm MK 103 cannons, gunpods (wing-mounted) (35 rpg = 70 total)
  • 14 x Pb2 rockets

Usage in battles

The Fw-190 F-8 possesses far below average speed, acceleration and climb ability for its rank. If you spot a bandit at the same altitude, a recommended tactic is to head-on attack, followed by an evasive manoeuvre and then extending away to repeat the processes. If a bandit has superior energy/altitude and is trying to attack you, try to drag them to friendlies, but don't sacrifice too much altitude to do so. If you are skilled enough, another tactic would be to initiate scissors; either rolling or flat, and then break away when he goes to yo-yo to control his overshoot. The scissors manoeuvre is a highly effective manoeuvre in the 190s. Many good pilots have dismembered many superior aircraft simply because of the roll rate and firepower this plane possesses. If you are clever enough to press for a gun solution when scissoring an enemy, you could be greatly rewarded.

In summary for the unintended fighter-role, climb to the side or continue climbing when starting mid-air, Boom & Zoom like a champion, never get in a sustained turn fight, and use the rate of roll to free yourself when cornered. The F-8 is most likely to be successful in realistic battles when used as a ground-attacker or bomber hunter. B-17s and Halifaxes are unlikely to fly at higher altitudes than the F-8 can perform at, which allows for the F-8s armament (especially with the 30 mm gunpods) and decent durability to be useful while not being held back by its relatively poor dogfighting capability. It is best to make quick, diving attack passes targeting the wings and engines before extending out to avoid return fire from the bomber's defensive guns. Do not turn back until you are at least 1 km away from the bomber to avoid being an easy target. Until the frontal gunpods are unlocked, 2-3 passes may be required to fully destroy a bomber. Frontal attacks can also be effective especially with the engines and cockpit both viable targets, but with the trade-off being less time to shoot at the target (this goes both ways, you won't be in the range of defensive guns for very long either).

In combined forces battles, the Fw-190 F-8 can carry a wider range of ordinance than most other German fighters, allowing for ground-attack using rockets, gun pods, or bombs. The 1000 kg bomb is unique to F-8 among German fighters; while the Do 335 (A-1 & B-2 variants) and Me-410 (A1 & B1 variants) can carry 1,000 kg worth of bombs, they can only carry 250 kg and 500 kg bombs. The F-8 combines the ability to carry heavy ordinance while still retaining decent fighting capability after dropping said ordinance.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled
Not controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Combined Not controllable
2 gears
Not controllable

Modules

The attacker "Würger" has such awful responsiveness from the elevator that anything which improves turn rate should have the highest priority. Otherwise, it will kiss the ground more than cows do! Don't forget, it needs to dive-bomb to hit anything. And grinding the bombs cannot be forgotten!! This is an attacker, so it needs the payload unlocks, but without performance upgrades, it is just a pain to fly. A detour to the new belts could be considered, but two 20 mm cannons are enough to handle any ground units even with stock ammunition, especially as the other performance upgrades are necessary as well due the F-8's great weight.

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Radiator Offensive 13 mm ETC 501 I
II Compressor Airframe New 13 mm MGs ETC 501 + ER 4 I R4/M HL modification
III Wings repair Engine Offensive 20 mm ETC 501 II ETC 501 + ER 4 II
IV Engine injection Cover New 20 mm cannons R3 modification Offensive 30 mm

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Plenty of ammo for the armaments
  • The 30 mm gun pods (with the glorious minengeschoss shells), steady rate of climb, air spawn, and decent durability combine to make for a potent bomber hunter in realistic battles
  • Carrying the 30 mm cannon pods do not have a significant reduction on flight performance when compared to the bombs
  • 30 mm HVAP rounds can deal with any surface target except pillboxes
  • Ability to carry up to 1,200 kgs of payload, and is the only Fw 190 besides Dora series and the A5/U2 that can carry bombs
  • Comes stock with 250 kg and 50 kg bomb options
  • Access to 30 mm Mk 103 gun pods, Pb2 HEAT rockets, and a 1,000 kg bomb, which aren't available on any other German single-engine fighter
  • Great roll rate
  • Great energy retention
  • Climb rate is consistent until 6,000 m altitude
  • Can WEP pretty much nonstop
  • Well armoured from the front
  • Excellent tank busting capability

Cons:

  • Generally outclassed by other 190 models when it comes to air to air combat
  • 30 mm cannons are mounted on the wings, therefore, is relatively inaccurate compared to nose-mounted
  • Firing the 30 mm cannons creates recoil within the plane
  • Poor turn rate that many medium bombers can beat
  • Manoeuvrability suffers at low speeds
  • Elevator has low response & effect at low-medium speeds
  • Bad climb rate for an Fw 190 especially with payloads
  • WEP doesn't significantly boost performance

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In-game description

The Focke-Wulf Fw 190 Wuerger (Shrike) was a single-seat single-engine monoplane fighter used by the Luftwaffe in WWII. One of the best fighters of the time, it was widely used during the Second World War. A total of over 20,000 were produced, including some 6,000 fighter-bomber variants. The 190 remained in production from 1941 until the end of the war, going through multiple redesigns. The Fw 190 made a name for itself as a true Luftwaffe workhorse and was used in a wide variety of roles, including a high-altitude interceptor (especially the Fw 190D), escort fighter, fighter-bomber and night fighter.

The Fw 190 F-8 was the most mass-produced variant of the Fw 190 F series, based on the Fw 190 A-8. By March 1944, Fw 190 F-8s were also produced by the Arado company in Warnemuende, and by April the NDW company in Wismar. The aircraft was powered by the BMW 801 D-2 engine with improved injector on the compressor, which provided emergency power for up to 10-15 minutes at 1,000 meters of altitude. Otherwise, the plane's equipment was largely similar to the A-8, although the FuG 16 ZY radio was replaced with the FuG 16 ZS in April 1944. This allowed direct communication with ground troops on the battlefield. A distinctive characteristic of the F-8 was a widened rear canopy. The new canopy was introduced in the latter half of 1944. It improved forward and downward visibility, which was very important for ground attack. On-board armament consisted of twin MG 131 machine guns in the fuselage and two MG 151/20E cannon in the wings.

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