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Revision as of 17:52, 24 April 2019

Fw 190 F-8
fw-190f-8.png
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
4.3/4.7/5.3BR
1 personCrew
6.0 tTake-off weight
Flight characteristics
BMW 801 TUEngine
RadialType
airCooling system
Speed of destruction
912 km/hStructural
310 km/hGear
Offensive armament
2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannonWeapon 1
500 roundsAmmunition
750 shots/minFire rate
2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gunWeapon 2
800 roundsAmmunition
900 shots/minFire rate
Suspended armament
4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombSetup 1
8 x 50 kg SC50JA bombSetup 2
1 x 250 kg SC250JA bombSetup 3
4 x 50 kg SC50JA bomb
1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb
Setup 4
1 x 500 kg SC500K bombSetup 5
4 x 50 kg SC50JA bomb
1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb
Setup 6
1 x 1000 kg SC1000L2 bombSetup 7
4 x 50 kg SC50JA bomb
1 x 1000 kg SC1000L2 bomb
Setup 8
2 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon (secondary)Setup 9
14 x Pb2 rocketsSetup 10
Economy
54 000 Rp icon.pngResearch
180 000 Sl icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png8 000 / 10 176/7 220 / 9 183/2 900 / 3 688Repair
52 000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
180 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
940 Ge icon.pngAces
× (166) % Rp icon.pngReward for battle
× 3.2 Sl icon.png× 2.5 Sl icon.png× 1.1 Sl icon.png
This page is about the German fighter Fw 190 F-8. For other uses, see Fw 190 (Family).

Description

GarageImage Fw 190 F-8.jpg


The Fw 190 F-8 is a Rank IV German fighter with a battle rating of 5.3 (AB), 4.7 (RB), and 4.3 (SB). This fighter has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

The 190 who thought it was a Stuka. The F-8 version is a peculiar one, designed to replace the the aging Ju 87 series, it could never fully replace it this late into the war (1944). As an attacker this Focke Wulf gains mid-air start on most maps which can either be used to get to ground targets quickly, or get the jump on climbing fighters. Keep in mind though that the very heavy F-8 is not designed for dogfights and will suffer in any fighter engagement. The F-8 is perhaps one of the most versatile Fw-190s in the game, though it tends to be outperformed in most categories by more specialized planes.

General info

Flight Performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 5,400 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
603 583 24.8 25.3 9.3 11.6 453
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 5,400 m)
Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ?  ?  ??.?  ??.?  ??.?  ??.? 453

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flap
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
912 310 N/A ~19 ~19
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 420 < 510 < 510 > 280
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
1,500 m 1,602 hp 1,954 hp

Survivability and armour

  • 6 mm Steel - Fore cowl ring
  • 10 mm Steel - Cowl ring
  • 6 mm Steel - Under engine armour
  • 8 mm Steel - Under cockpit/fuel tank armour plate
  • 5 mm Steel - Rear fuel tank armour
  • 8 mm Steel - Pilot's chair armour
  • 6 mm Steel - Pilot's chair armour
  • 12 mm Steel - Headrest armour
  • 57 mm Bulletproof glass - armoured windscreen

Armaments

Offensive armament

The Fw 190 F-8 is armed with the following:

  • 4 x 20 mm MG 151/20 cannon, wing-mounted (250 rpg = 500 total)
  • 2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gun, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)

Suspended armament

Main article: MK 103 (30 mm)

Payload options for the Fw 190 F-8 include:

  • Without load
  • 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs
  • 8 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs
  • 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb
  • 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs + 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb
  • 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb
  • 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs + 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb
  • 1 x 1000 kg SC1000L2 bomb
  • 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs + 1 x 1000 kg SC1000L2 bomb
  • 2 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, wing-mounted (35 rpg = 70 total)
  • 14 x Pb2 rockets

Usage in battles

The Fw-190 F-8 possesses far below average speed, acceleration and climb ability for its rank. If you spot a bandit at the same altitude, a recommended tactic is to head-on attack, followed by an evasive manoeuvre and then extending away to repeat the processes. If a bandit has superior energy/altitude and is trying to attack you, try to drag them to friendlies, but don't sacrifice too much altitude to do so. If you are skilled enough, another tactic would be to initiate scissors; either rolling or flat, and then break away when he goes to yo-yo to control his overshoot. The scissors is a highly effective manoeuvre in the 190s. Many good pilots have dismembered many superior aircraft simply because of the roll rate and firepower this plane possesses. If you are clever enough to press for a gun solution when scissoring an enemy, you could be greatly rewarded.

In summary for the unintended fighter-role, climb to the side or continue climbing when starting mid-air, BnZ like a champion, never get in a sustained turn fight, and use the rate of roll to free yourself when cornered. The F-8 is most likely to be successful in realistic battles when used as a ground-attacker or bomber hunter. B-17s and Halifaxes are unlikely to fly at higher altitudes than the F-8 can perform at, which allows for the F-8s armament (especially with the 30mm gun pods) and decent durability to be useful while not being held back by its relatively poor dogfighting capability. It is best to make quick, diving attack passes targeting the wings and engines before extending out to avoid return fire from the bomber's defensive guns. Do not turn back until you are at least 1 km away from the bomber to avoid being an easy target. Until the frontal gun pods are unlocked, 2-3 passes may be required to fully destroy a bomber. Frontal attacks can also be effective, with the engines and cockpit both viable targets, but with the trade-off being less time to shoot at the target (this goes both ways, you won't be in the range of defensive guns for very long either).

In combined forces battles, the Fw-190 F-8 can carry a wider range of ordinance than most other German fighters, allowing for ground-attack using rockets, gun pods, or bombs. The 1000 kg bomb is unique to F-8 among German fighters; while the Do-335 (A-1 & B-2 variants) and Me-410 (A1 & B1 variants) can carry 1,000 kg of bombs, they can only carry 250 kg and 500 kg bombs. The F-8 combines the ability to carry heavy ordinance while still retaining decent fighting capability after dropping said ordinance.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable Not controllable Controllable Combined Not controllable Not controllable

Modules

The attacker "Würger" has such awful responsiveness from the elevator, that anything which improves turn rate should have the highest priority. Otherwise, it will kiss the ground more a lot more than cows do! Don't forget, it needs to dive-bomb to hit anything. And grinding the bombs cannot be forgotten!! This is an attacker, so it needs the payload unlocks, but without performance upgrades, it is just pain to fly. A detour to the new belts could be considered, but two 20 mm cannons are enough to handle any ground units even with stock ammunition, especially as the other performance upgrades are necessary as well due the F-8's great weight.

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Radiator Offensive 13 mm ETC 501 I
II Compressor Airframe New 13 mm MGs ETC 501 + ER 4 I R4/M HL modification
III Wings Repair Engine Offensive 20 mm ETC 501 II ETC 502 + ER 4 II
IV Engine Injection Cover New 20 mm cannons R3 Modification Offensive 30 mm

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Plenty of ammo for the armaments
  • The 30 mm gun pods (with the glorious minengeschoss shells), steady rate of climb, air spawn, and decent durability combine to make for a potent bomber hunter in realistic battles
  • Carrying the 30 mm cannon pods do not have a significant reduction on flight performance when compared to the bombs
  • 30 mm HVAP rounds can deal with any surface target except pillboxes
  • Ability to carry up to 1,200 kgs of payload, and is the only Fw 190 besides Dora series and the A5/U2 that can carry bombs
  • Comes stock with 250 kg and 50 kg bomb options
  • Access to 30 mm Mk 103 gun pods, Pb2 HEAT rockets, and a 1,000 kg bomb, which aren't available on any other German single-engine fighter
  • Great roll rate
  • Great energy retention
  • Climb rate is consistent until 6,000 m altitude
  • Can WEP pretty much nonstop
  • Well armoured from the front
  • Excellent tank busting capability

Cons:

  • Generally outclassed by other 190 models when it comes to air to air combat
  • 30mm cannons are mounted on the wings, therefore, is relatively inaccurate compared to nose-mounted
  • Firing the 30mm cannons creates recoil within the plane
  • Poor turn rate that many medium bombers can beat
  • Maneuverability at low speeds is bad
  • Elevator has low response & effect at low-medium speeds
  • Bad climb rate for an Fw 190 especially with payloads
  • WEP doesn't significantly boost performance

History

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Media

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See also

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  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
  • other literature.


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