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{{Specs-Card|code=germ_panzerjager_nashorn}}
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{{Specs-Card|code=ussr_object_685}}
  
 
== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (''Rhinoceros'') is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]]. It was developed as an interim solution to deal with Soviet heavy tanks on the Eastern front who were immune to the guns of Marders. It consists of an 88 mm anti-tank gun PaK 43 mounted on a Panzer IV chassis. It is also known as the ''Hornet'' (''Hornisse'' in German).
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]].
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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[[File:Obj685 xray.png|right|thumb|Object 685 X-ray view in hangar]]
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* The armour on the Object 685 is Alloy ABT-101. The armour values in the chart are displayed in rolled homogeneous armour equivalence.
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{| class="wikitable"
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
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!''Armour''!!''Front (Slope angle)''!!''Sides''!!''Rear''!!''Roof''
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| Hull || ___ mm || ___ mm ''Top'' <br> ___ mm ''Bottom'' || ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
 
 
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| Turret || ___ - ___ mm ''Turret front'' <br> ___ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
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|''Hull''||''54 mm''||16 mm||5 mm||6 mm
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| Cupola || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm
 
 
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|''Turret''||19 mm||16 mm||16 mm||8 mm
 
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|}
  
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'''Notes:''' <!-- Any additional notes which the user needs to be aware of -->
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The Object 685 is a very lightly armoured vehicle. The alloy may at first appear to be somewhat thick, but it is much less effective than rolled homogeneous armour at stopping rounds. The Object 685 can be killed by almost anything, with .50 calibre machine guns able to penetrate even parts of the front armour at close range. Additionally, the Object 685 has hullbreak. The commander and gunner are somewhat far apart, but the Object has only 3 crew, so survivability is not particularly impressive. Generally, Object 685 drivers should not rely on their armour in any situation.
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The {{PAGENAME}}'s armour is paper-thin; it will not protect the crew or internal modules even from heavy-calibre machine gun fire. And, the vehicle can be hull-broken by high-calibre HE rounds.
 
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The {{PAGENAME}} also lacks roof protection, making it a very desirable target for enemy fighters and attackers.  Stay behind cover to avoid strafing runs or rocket attacks.
 
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One interesting (and somewhat comical) note on the {{PAGENAME}}'s armour is that being so thin, high-penetration shells may pass through it without detonating at all.
 
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
 
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 426|rbMinHp= 265}}
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp=620|rbMinHp=354}}
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
 
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{{main|PaK 43 (88 mm)}}
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{{main|2A48 (100 mm)}}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
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! colspan="5" | [[PaK 43 (88 mm)|88 mm PaK 43]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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! colspan="5" | [[2A48 (100 mm)|100 mm 2A48]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
 
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! ''Arcade''
 
! ''Arcade''
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| rowspan="2" | 40 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±15° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 10.6 || 14.6 || __.__ || __.__ || 20.9 || rowspan="2" | 8.7 || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | 6.7
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| rowspan="2" | 40 || rowspan="2" | -4°/+17° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 19.0 || 26.2 ||32.0||35.4||37.6|| rowspan="2" | 6.0 || rowspan="2" |6.0|| rowspan="2" |6.0|| rowspan="2" |6.0
 
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! ''Realistic''
 
! ''Realistic''
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| 7.1 || 8.4 || __.__ || __.__ || 12.0
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| 11.9 || 14.0 ||17.0||18.5||20.0
 
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The 88 mm PaK 43 gun has great penetration statistics at all ranges and angles with an average reload time. Due to the vehicle's design, the gun should be used to snipe enemy targets from long ranges.  Most enemy tanks will be crippled or destroyed if a shot connects.
 
 
==== Ammunition ====
 
==== Ammunition ====
 
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 
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| PzGr 39/43 || APCBC || 237 || 234 || 222 || 207 || 194 || 181
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| 3BK17M || HEATFS || 390 || 390 || 390 || 390 || 390 || 390
 
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| PzGr 40/43 || APCR || 279 || 273 || 252 || 227 || 205 || 185
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| BR-412D || APCBC || 239 || 236 || 223 || 207 || 192 || 178
 
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| Hl.Gr 39 || HEAT || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110
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| 3BM25 || APFSDS || 335 || 330 || 307 || 290 || 275 || 260
 
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| Sprgr.43 || HE || 14 || 14 || 14 || 14 || 14 || 14
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| OF-412 || HE || 19 || 19 || 19 || 19 || 19 || 19
 
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="10" | Shell details
 
! colspan="10" | Shell details
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! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 
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| PzGr 39/43 || APCBC || 1000 || 10.2 || 1.2 || 14 || 108.8 || 48° || 63° || 71°
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| 3BK17M || HEATFS || 1,085 || 9.96 || N/A || 0.1 || 1,440 || 65° || 72° || 77°
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| BR-412D || APCBC || 887 || 15.90 || 1.2 || 19.0 || 93.94 || 48° || 63° || 71°
 
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| PzGr 40/43 || APCR || 1130 || 7.3 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 66° || 70° || 72°
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| 3BM25 || APFSDS || 1,430 || 3.40 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 76° || 77° || 80°
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| OF-412 || HE || 900 || 15.20 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 1,460 || 79° || 80° || 81°
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! colspan="7" | Smoke shell characteristics
 
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| Hl.Gr 39 || HEAT || 600 || 7.6 || N/A || 0.3 || 1,100  || 62° || 69° || 73°
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! Ammunition
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! Velocity<br>(m/s)
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! Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
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! Screen radius<br>(m)
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! Screen deploy time<br>(s)
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! Screen hold time<br>(s)
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! Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 
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| Sprgr.43 || HE || 820 || 9.4 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 1,000 || 79° || 80° || 81°
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| 3D3 || 880 || 15.6 || 20 || 5 || 25 || 272
 
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==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
 
==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]
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! 3rd<br>rack empty
 
! 3rd<br>rack empty
 
! 4th<br>rack empty
 
! 4th<br>rack empty
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! 5th<br>rack empty
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! 6th<br>rack empty
 
! Visual<br>discrepancy
 
! Visual<br>discrepancy
 
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| '''40''' || 33&nbsp;''(+7)'' || 25&nbsp;''(+15)'' || 21&nbsp;''(+19)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+39)'' || No
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| '''40''' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __
 
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Notes:
 
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* To go into battle with the flanks empty of ammo, pack 25&nbsp;''(+15)'' shells (racks 1 and 2 empty).
 
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* Racks disappear after you've fired all shells in the rack.
 
  
 
=== Machine guns ===
 
=== Machine guns ===
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{{main|MG34 (7.92 mm)}}
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{{main|SGMT (7.62 mm)}}
  
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 
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! colspan="5" | [[MG34 (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm MG34]]
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! colspan="5" | [[SGMT (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm SGMT]]
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! Mount
 
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! Capacity (Belt)
 
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! Fire rate
 
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! Vertical
 
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! Horizontal
 
 
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! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
 
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| ___ || ___ (___) || ___ || -__°/+__° || ±__°
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| Coaxial || 2,000 (250) || 600 || N/A || N/A
 
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The {{PAGENAME}} has two [[MG34 (7.92 mm)]] machine guns aimed towards the vehicle's sides. Since they are secondary weapons, there are no ammunition belt options. Furthermore, they have various blind spots (e.g. the space behind or in front of the tank and the area above the vehicle). The machine guns have an elevation of only around +20°, making the tank very vulnerable against diving fighters or bombers.
 
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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'''Gameplay Stock:'''
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The Object 685 is much less powerful when stock. It is equipped with the 3BK17M HEAT-FS shell, which is generally inferior to the 3BM25 shell. Another issue while stock is the mobility, which is not as impressive when stock. Another issue is the lack of the Airstrike modification, which makes spawning in air vehicles easier in ground RB after scouting.
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'''Gameplay Spaded:'''
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The Object 685 is a highly mobile Soviet light tank which has an excellent cannon. Its disadvantages are thin armour and a lack of thermal sights. Object 685 players should avoid areas with heavy foliage, as the lack of thermals will prove detrimental in these areas. The best strategy with the Object 685 is flanking the enemy team using the Object 685's mobility. The amphibious capability can help create new avenues of attack when flanking. The scouting ability also helps the team while on the flanks. One tactic to avoid in the Object 685 is using the ESS system, as enemy thermal sights can see through the smoke, while the Object 685 will effectively blind itself.
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'''Close Range Engagements:'''
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The Object 685 can fare well at close range due to the excellent gun handling and reload rate. Additionally, the mobility of the vehicle allows it to easily outmanoeuvre enemies at close range. However, the thin armour and hullbreak means that getting shot is usually a death sentence.
  
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The {{PAGENAME}} should be used as a long-range sniper in realistic battles.  It is recommended to sit behind a ridge or behind cover, emerging to take shots at unaware enemies.  At close range, the {{PAGENAME}} suffers due to its lack of a turret and poor survivability. 
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'''Long Range Engagements:'''
  
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In arcade battles, spotting markers make any sniping positions automatically unviable.  Enemy players will have no trouble locating and destroying the {{PAGENAME}}. The best thing to do is to constantly be on the move, searching for new firing positions, and to keep an eye on flanking enemies.
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The Object 685 may have difficulty in prolonged long range engagements. The main armament is excellent, but the Object is held back by its lack of thermal sights and low survivability. The lack of thermals means that seeing your target may be difficult at long range. Additionally, the low survivability means that the Object 685 will not survive most hits, even at long range.
  
 
=== Modules ===
 
=== Modules ===
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! Protection
 
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| I
 
| I
 
| Tracks
 
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| Parts
 
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| Brake System
 
| FPE
 
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| Laser rangefinder
 
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| IV
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
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* The powerful 88 mm PaK 43 cannon can destroy most, if not all, opponents in one shot
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* Powerful rounds with a fast reload
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* Good mobility
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* Two machine guns to deal with lightly armoured targets
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* Scouting ability
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* Reload times are faster than those of the [[Tiger (Germany)]] tanks.
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* Thin armour avoids excessive spalling
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* The mobility of a [[Panzer IV]]
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* Amphibious
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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* Has next to no armour and can be penetrated by .50 cal machine guns
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* Thin armour
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* Hullbreak
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* Lack of thermal sights
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* Small crew
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== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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After production of the PT-76 was discontinued, Soviet engineers began work on developing a suitable replacement around a set of requirements provided by the military. The requirements were sent to three different design bureaus, with each bureau developing its own vehicle around the given specifications.
  
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Also known as the Hornisse (Hornet), the {{PAGENAME}} comprised a composite Pz III/IV chassis and an 8.8 cm PaK 43 gun. 494 were built and it was used on all fronts in the heavy tank destroyer units from mid-1943 on. The first user was the 655th Schwere Panzerjaegerabteilung in Russia.
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One of the proposed designs, the Object 788, was disqualified early from the competition due to being incomplete and missing several key features mandated by the requirements. The other two designs, the Object 685 and Object 934 were both deemed as sufficient, and work on them continued. By the mid 1970s, both vehicles were built and tested, but neither managed to garner enough interest to warrant a production order being issued. Despite not making it past the prototype stage, design solutions from both vehicles were later applied to other Soviet fighting vehicles.
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''- From [[wt:en/news/6332-development-object-685-return-of-the-river-mosquito-en|Devblog]]''
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
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;Skins
 
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?q=%23nashorn Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 
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{{Youtube-gallery|rJW2KyvSjSE|'''Nashorn Tank Review''' - ''NUSensei''}}
 
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
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* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
 
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* [[Pz.IV (Disambiguation)|Pz.IV]]
 
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;Vehicles equipped with the same gun
 
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* [[Waffentrager|Waffenträger]]
 
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== External links ==
 
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* [[wt:en/devblog/current/877|[Devblog] Nashorn: the German ‘Rhinoceros’]]
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* [[wt:en/news/6332-development-object-685-return-of-the-river-mosquito-en|[Development] Object 685: Return of the River Mosquito]]
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* [[wikipedia:Nashorn|[Wikipedia] Nashorn]]
 
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* [https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/nazi_germany/Sd-Kfz-164_Nashorn.php <nowiki>[Tanks Encyclopedia]</nowiki> 8.8 cm PaK 43/1 auf Fgst.Pz.Kpfw III und IV (Sf) Sd.Kfz. 164 “Nashorn”]
 
  
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Revision as of 16:15, 31 July 2020

Rank 6 USA
F-5C Pack
Object 685
ussr_object_685.png
Object 685
USSR flag.png USSR
VI Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
8.3 8.7 8.7
Class:
Research:81 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:450 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

GarageImage Object 685.jpg


The Object 685 is a rank VI Soviet light tank with a battle rating of 8.3 (AB) and 8.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.91 "Night Vision".

General info

Survivability and armour

Object 685 X-ray view in hangar
  • The armour on the Object 685 is Alloy ABT-101. The armour values in the chart are displayed in rolled homogeneous armour equivalence.
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 54 mm 16 mm 5 mm 6 mm
Turret 19 mm 16 mm 16 mm 8 mm

The Object 685 is a very lightly armoured vehicle. The alloy may at first appear to be somewhat thick, but it is much less effective than rolled homogeneous armour at stopping rounds. The Object 685 can be killed by almost anything, with .50 calibre machine guns able to penetrate even parts of the front armour at close range. Additionally, the Object 685 has hullbreak. The commander and gunner are somewhat far apart, but the Object has only 3 crew, so survivability is not particularly impressive. Generally, Object 685 drivers should not rely on their armour in any situation.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 79 23 16.5 620 868 37.58 52.61
Realistic 71 21 354 455 21.45 27.58

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: 2A48 (100 mm)
100 mm 2A48 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 40 -4°/+17° ±180° Two-plane 19.0 26.2 32.0 35.4 37.6 6.0 6.0 6.0 6.0
Realistic 11.9 14.0 17.0 18.5 20.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
3BK17M HEATFS 390 390 390 390 390 390
BR-412D APCBC 239 236 223 207 192 178
3BM25 APFSDS 335 330 307 290 275 260
OF-412 HE 19 19 19 19 19 19
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
Mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
3BK17M HEATFS 1,085 9.96 N/A 0.1 1,440 65° 72° 77°
BR-412D APCBC 887 15.90 1.2 19.0 93.94 48° 63° 71°
3BM25 APFSDS 1,430 3.40 N/A N/A N/A 76° 77° 80°
OF-412 HE 900 15.20 0.1 0.5 1,460 79° 80° 81°
Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
Mass (kg) 		Screen radius
(m) 		Screen deploy time
(s) 		Screen hold time
(s) 		Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
3D3 880 15.6 20 5 25 272

Ammo racks

Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		6th
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
40 __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __

Machine guns

Main article: SGMT (7.62 mm)
7.62 mm SGMT
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 2,000 (250) 600 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

Gameplay Stock:

The Object 685 is much less powerful when stock. It is equipped with the 3BK17M HEAT-FS shell, which is generally inferior to the 3BM25 shell. Another issue while stock is the mobility, which is not as impressive when stock. Another issue is the lack of the Airstrike modification, which makes spawning in air vehicles easier in ground RB after scouting.

Gameplay Spaded:

The Object 685 is a highly mobile Soviet light tank which has an excellent cannon. Its disadvantages are thin armour and a lack of thermal sights. Object 685 players should avoid areas with heavy foliage, as the lack of thermals will prove detrimental in these areas. The best strategy with the Object 685 is flanking the enemy team using the Object 685's mobility. The amphibious capability can help create new avenues of attack when flanking. The scouting ability also helps the team while on the flanks. One tactic to avoid in the Object 685 is using the ESS system, as enemy thermal sights can see through the smoke, while the Object 685 will effectively blind itself.

Close Range Engagements:

The Object 685 can fare well at close range due to the excellent gun handling and reload rate. Additionally, the mobility of the vehicle allows it to easily outmanoeuvre enemies at close range. However, the thin armour and hullbreak means that getting shot is usually a death sentence.

Long Range Engagements:

The Object 685 may have difficulty in prolonged long range engagements. The main armament is excellent, but the Object is held back by its lack of thermal sights and low survivability. The lack of thermals means that seeing your target may be difficult at long range. Additionally, the low survivability means that the Object 685 will not survive most hits, even at long range.

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts BR-412D Horizontal Drive NVD
II Suspension Brake System FPE 3BM25 Adjustment of Fire Airstrike
III Filters Crew Replenishment Elevation Mechanism Smoke grenade Laser rangefinder
IV Transmission Engine ESS Artillery Support Improved optics 3D3

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Powerful rounds with a fast reload
  • Good mobility
  • Scouting ability
  • Thin armour avoids excessive spalling
  • Amphibious

Cons:

  • Thin armour
  • Hullbreak
  • Lack of thermal sights
  • Small crew

History

After production of the PT-76 was discontinued, Soviet engineers began work on developing a suitable replacement around a set of requirements provided by the military. The requirements were sent to three different design bureaus, with each bureau developing its own vehicle around the given specifications.

One of the proposed designs, the Object 788, was disqualified early from the competition due to being incomplete and missing several key features mandated by the requirements. The other two designs, the Object 685 and Object 934 were both deemed as sufficient, and work on them continued. By the mid 1970s, both vehicles were built and tested, but neither managed to garner enough interest to warrant a production order being issued. Despite not making it past the prototype stage, design solutions from both vehicles were later applied to other Soviet fighting vehicles.

- From Devblog

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


USSR light tanks
T-26  T-26 · T-26 (1st Gv.T.Br.) · T-26-4 · T-26E
BT  BT-5 · RBT-5 · BT-7 · BT-7 TD · BT-7M · BT-7A (F-32)
T-50  T-126 · T-50
T-70  T-70 · T-80
PT-76  PT-76B · PT-76-57 · Object 906
BMP  BMP-1 · BMP-2 · BMP-2M · BMP-3
BMD  BMD-4
2S25  2S25 · 2S25M
Wheeled  BA-11 · BTR-80A
Other  T-60 · Object 685 · 2S38
China  ▂Type 62

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