Difference between revisions of "F2H-2"

From War Thunder Wiki
Jump to: navigation, search
(Added 3D cockpit to sidebar)
m (External links)
(19 intermediate revisions by 8 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
 
{{Specs-Card
 
{{Specs-Card
 
|code=f2h-2
 
|code=f2h-2
|cockpit=380015/1304867
+
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
 +
|cockpit=cockpit_f2h-2.jpg
 
}}
 
}}
  
 
== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
 
<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
+
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.45 "Steel Generals"]]. The F2H-2 Banshee is a fantastic jet-fighter with great overall speed and good manoeuvrability. It is most recognized for its ability to remain stable even past its speed limit break (933 km/h) and also for its fantastic high-altitude performance.
{{break}}
 
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} American naval jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.45 "Steel Generals"]]. The F2H-2 Banshee is a fantastic jet-fighter with great overall speed and good maneuverability. It is most recognized for its ability to remain stable even past its speed limit break (933 kph) and also for its fantastic high-altitude performance.
 
  
The Banshee is a very stable platform at HIGH speeds. Warning appears at 940 kph; but it can reach over a 1,000 kph and still not rip apart, if flown carefully and kept it in a straight line.
+
The Banshee is a very stable platform at high speeds. Speed warning appears at 940 km/h, but it can reach over a 1,000 km/h and still not rip apart if flown carefully and kept it in a straight line.
 +
 
 +
Overall this jet is one of the best US early jets, it's BR of {{Battle-rating}} coupled with its very good performances make it a very pleasant aircraft to fly and grind the whole US air tree.
 +
 
 +
The aircraft is very powerful and even if one of the engines is taken out, the machine can still return to base safely.
  
Two engines for redundancy. If one is taken out, the machine can still return to base safely. A good advantage to have, due the fragility of jet engine regarding bullet impacts.
 
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
=== Flight Performance ===
+
=== Flight performance ===
 +
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
 
<!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
 
<!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
+
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
|-
+
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="8" | Characteristics
 
|-
 
! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
|-
 
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
+
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
+
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
+
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
|-
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
 
|-
 
|-
| 910 || 884 || 14,965 || 26.8 || 27.8 || 21.6 || 20.2 || 670
+
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
+
! Stock
 +
| 910 || 884 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 26.8 || 27.8 || 21.6 || 20.2 || rowspan="2" | 670
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
+
! Upgraded
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (meters)
+
| 947 || 933 || 25.8 || 26.0 || 33.9 || 27.4
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (meters)
 
|-
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
|-
 
| ? || ? || 14,965 || ??.? || ??.? || ?.? || ?.? || 670
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
====Details====
+
==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
+
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
+
! colspan="6" | Features
 
|-
 
|-
! Combat flap
+
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
! Take-off flap
 
! Landing flap
 
! Air brakes
 
! Arrestor gear
 
 
|-
 
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓    <!-- ✓ -->
+
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X     <!-- ✓ -->
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
+
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="5" | Limits
+
! colspan="7" | Limits
 
|-
 
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
+
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
+
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
+
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
|-
 
|-
! +
+
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
! -
 
 
|-
 
|-
| 994 || 342 || 525 || ~12 || ~5
+
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 525 || 525 || 325 || ~12 || ~5
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
Line 90: Line 66:
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
+
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
 
|-
 
|-
! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
+
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
! Rudder<br>(km/h)
 
! Elevators<br>(km/h)
 
! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
 
|-
 
|-
| < 620 || < 650 || < 700 || > 550
+
| < 620 || < 650 || < 700 || N/A
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
 +
==== Engine performance ====
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
+
! colspan="3" | Engine
 +
! colspan="6" | Aircraft mass
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
+
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
 +
! colspan="3" | Empty mass || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 
|-
 
|-
! Optimal altitude
+
| colspan="2" | Westinghouse J34-WE-34 ||  2
! 100% Engine power
+
| colspan="3" | 5,620 kg || colspan="3" |  335 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
! WEP Engine power
 
 
|-
 
|-
| 0 m || 1470 kgf || No WEP
+
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
 +
! colspan="5" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br />Weight
 
|-
 
|-
<!--! colspan="3" | Setting 2
+
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
 +
! 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 60m fuel || 69m fuel
 
|-
 
|-
! Optimal altitude
+
| 600 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
! 100% Engine power
+
| 6,674 kg || 7,178 kg || 7,980 kg || 8,689 kg || 9,142 kg || 11,000 kg
! WEP Engine power
 
 
|-
 
|-
| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
+
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
 +
! colspan="6" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
+
! Condition || 100% || WEP
 +
! 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 60m fuel || 69m fuel || MTOW
 
|-
 
|-
! Optimal altitude
+
| ''Stationary'' || 1,469 kgf || N/A
! 100% Engine power
+
| 0.44 || 0.41 || 0.37 || 0.34 || 0.32 || 0.27
! WEP Engine power
+
|-
 +
| ''Optimal'' || 1,469 kgf<br />(0 km/h) || N/A
 +
| 0.44 || 0.41 || 0.37 || 0.34 || 0.32 || 0.27
 
|-
 
|-
| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
 
|- -->
 
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 +
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
 +
<!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
 
''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''
 
''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''
 +
 +
=== Modifications and economy ===
 +
{{Specs-Economy}}
 +
 +
''Compressor'' and ''Engine'' are always useful upgrades and all acceleration unlocks are a top priority. Given the ''uniqueness'' of the AN/M3 armament ''New 20 mm cannons'' and ''[[G-Suit]]'' should be preferable tier 4 goals. The stock belts are better than any other type of ammo, due to more two times more HEFI-T inside of them, but for the improved cannons, they need to be researched, albeit that can wait past the G-Suit. To help with the manoeuvrability issues, boosters should be considered a priority as well.
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 +
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 +
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}
 
<!-- ''Describe the offensive armament of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.'' -->
 
<!-- ''Describe the offensive armament of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.'' -->
{{main|AN/M3 (20 mm)}}
+
{{main|M3 (20 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
* 4 x 20 mm AN/M3 cannon, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 600 total)
+
 
 +
* 4 x 20 mm M3 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 600 total)
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 +
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 
<!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 
<!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
{{main|HVAR|AN-M57 (250 lb)|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)}}
+
{{main|AN-M57 (250 lb)|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|HVAR}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 +
 
* Without load
 
* Without load
* 8 x 127 mm HVAR rockets
+
* 8 x HVAR rockets
 
* 4 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (1,000 lb total)
 
* 4 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (1,000 lb total)
 
* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
 
* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
<!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
+
<!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
The Banshee is first in the US naval jet lineup, and possesses many traits and characteristics that make it a fantastic start for jet players. Some tips to use it effectively are:
+
The Banshee is first in the US naval jet lineup and possesses many characteristics that make it a fantastic start for jet players.
*Staying at a high altitude (side-climbing)
 
*Avoiding/evading higher-flying prop and jet planes (use "C" (default) to pan around you; this is extremely useful)
 
*Using Boom & Zoom or Boom & Run
 
*Upgrading your plane
 
  
In AB, the F2H is actually quite mediocre. Its high BR makes it liable to be put with superior jets such as the Me-262 (which has unlimited fuel, as is characteristic of AB) or the F-86 Sabre. However, an AB player can use the Banshee effectively by:
+
Some tips to use it effectively are:
  
AB will initially be frustrating. The un-upgraded Banshee is a very poor performer. Its cannons jam, it has a relatively poor climb rate, and acceleration is poor as well.
+
*Staying at a high altitude (side-climbing)
 +
*Avoiding/evading higher-flying prop and jet planes (Stay aware of your surroundings and watch for enemy fighters)
 +
*Using Boom & Zoom or Hit & Run tactics
  
Once upgraded, however, the Banshee is a very effective and useful plane.
+
In AB, the F2H is actually quite mediocre. Its high BR makes it liable to be put with superior jets such as the Me-262 (which has unlimited fuel, as is characteristic of AB) or the F-86 Sabre.
  
The F2H-2 is most effectively used as an energy fighter. It has great energy retention, turns well, and accelerates quite well once fully researched. However, the stock Banshee is terrible compared to super-props such as the [[Tempest Mk II|Tempest Mk.II]], [[F8F-1B|F8F-1B]], [[La-9]], and others. Therefore, it is recommended to climb at the beginning of a match to at least 4-6 km. The Banshee performs extremely well at these altitudes. However, keep in mind that evasion of superior planes such as the F8F-1B or the [[MiG-15]] is key. Once there, Boom & Zoom can be employed. Make sure your level speed is at least 300 mph due to the fact that the F2H-2 is extremely sluggish below that. However, low-speed stability coupled with an airbrake make the Banshee an extremely good prop-killer. SPEED IS YOUR FRIEND, as you can outrun most jets at your [[Battle ratings|Battle Rating]]. It is also extremely hard to tear the Banshee's wings.
+
AB will initially be frustrating as the un-upgraded Banshee is a very poor performer. Its cannons jam, it has a relatively poor climb rate, and acceleration is poor as well.
  
If you are unlucky, you will face the [[F-86A-5|F-86A]] and [[MiG-15]] in some battles. Avoid them at all costs as they climb far better than the Banshee and have superior top speed.
+
Once upgraded, however, the Banshee can be a very effective and useful plane.
  
Unfortunately, like most other jets, modifications take a long while to grind. Go for anything that increases the Banshee's climb rate. Leave the cannon ammo belts alone because default has the most HE shells (besides Stealth), and research the ''New Cannons'' modification. It will markedly improve the terrible spread of the cannon.
+
The F2H-2 is most effectively used as an energy fighter. It has great energy retention, turns well, and accelerates quite well once fully researched. However, the stock Banshee is terrible compared to super-props such as the [[Tempest Mk II|Tempest Mk.II]], [[F8F-1B|F8F-1B]], [[La-9]], and others. Therefore, it is recommended to climb at the beginning of a match to at least 4-6 km as the Banshee performs extremely well at these altitudes. However, keep in mind that evasion of superior planes such as the F8F-1B or the [[MiG-15]] is key. Once optimal altitude is reached, Boom & Zoom can be employed. The F2H has sluggish controls at speeds below 482 kph (300 mph) so try to maintain above that speed in level flight. But when facing super-props, low-speed stability coupled with an airbrake makes the Banshee an extremely good prop-killer. If you maintain a high speed during combat, you can outrun most jets at your [[Battle ratings|Battle Rating]].
  
The cockpit of the F2H-2 is fantastic- the bubble canopy provides good visibility, rearward and forward.
+
If you are unlucky, you will face the [[F-86A-5|F-86A]] and [[MiG-15]] in some battles, be sure to avoid them at all costs as they climb far better than the Banshee and have superior top speed.
  
Even with good advantages as a starting jet fighter (if you went with the Naval Line of USA Fighters), it has some disadvantages going up against MiG-15's and MiG-17's. It can certainly outrun La-174's and La-15's with splendid ease, but it will never be able to outrun a MiG once it's on your tail. As for MiG-9's, they can't outrun the Banshee (if fully spaded, careful here) but can probably out-turn it if the MiG-9 pilot is properly trained and experienced.
+
Unfortunately, like most other jets, modifications take a long while to grind. Go for anything that increases the Banshee's climb rate. Leave the cannon ammo belts alone because default has the most HE shells (besides Stealth), and research the ''New Cannons'' modification; It will markedly improve the terrible spread of the cannon.
  
Its '''main usage''' will be basically acting as a support fighter in EVERY situation, unless you are down-tiered and you are put against Ho-229's and Me-262's. In such a case, you can become an aggressive fighter and easily get three or more kills. Although, if you are put up against MiG-17's, MiG-15's and La-15's, best prepare yourself to side-climb and be behind your allies. Get some altitude, get some patience and get ready to take out baited MiG's that are either chasing Hunter's or Sabers, or an unfortunate bomber.
+
The cockpit of the F2H-2 is fantastic- the bubble canopy provides good visibility to the front and back of the aircraft.
  
A good recommendation is that you should never go for [[IL-28|IL-28's]] alone. Other recommendations is that you should never strap in rockets to this thing or bombs, unless you're in a squad and you all have the purpose of bombing points together. It is NOT recommended, either way. Another tip is to always try to hold your speed and REMEMBER to use your airbrakes when being tailed by a MiG.
+
Even with good advantages as a starting jet fighter (if you went with the Naval Line of USA Fighters), it has some disadvantages going up against MiG-15's and MiG-17's. It can certainly outrun La-174's and La-15's with splendid ease, but it will never be able to outrun a MiG once it's on your tail. As for MiG-9's, they can't outrun the Banshee but can probably out-turn it if the MiG-9 pilot is properly trained and experienced.
===Modules===
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
! colspan="1" | Tier
 
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
 
! colspan="1" | Survivability
 
! colspan="2" | Weaponry
 
|-
 
| I
 
| Fuselage Repair
 
| Compressor
 
|
 
|
 
| FSBC mk.5
 
|-
 
| II
 
| New Boosters
 
|
 
| Airframe
 
| Offensive 20 mm
 
|
 
|-
 
| III
 
| Wings Repair
 
| Engine
 
|
 
|
 
| FRC mk.2
 
|-
 
| IV
 
| G-Suit
 
|
 
| Cover
 
| New 20 mm Cannons
 
| FMBC mk.1
 
|-
 
|}
 
  
*''Compressor'' and ''Engine'' are always useful upgrades and all acceleration unlocks are top priority. Given the ''uniqueness'' of the AN/M3 armament ''New 20 mm cannons'' and ''[[G-Suit]]'' should be preferable tier 4 goals. The stock belts are better than any other type of ammo, due to more two times more HEFI-T inside of them, but for the improved cannons, they need to be researched, albeit that can wait past the G-Suit. To help with the maneuverability issues, boosters should be considered a priority as well.
+
It's best used as a support fighter in EVERY situation unless you are down-tiered and you are put against Ho-229's and Me-262's. In this case, you can become an aggressive fighter and easily score some kills. Although if you are put up against MiG-17's, MiG-15's and La-15's, best prepare yourself to side-climb and get behind your allies. Get some altitude and be patient to pursue MiG's that are either chasing Hunter's or Sabers or an unfortunate bomber.
  
 +
A good recommendation is that you should never go for [[IL-28|IL-28s]] alone. Other recommendations are that you should never take rockets or bombs unless you're in a squad and you bomb points together. It is NOT recommended either way. Another tip is to try holding your speed and use airbrakes when being tailed by a MiG.
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
<!-- ''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
+
<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
  
 
'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
* Heavy Armament
+
 
 +
* Amazing firepower (especially when spaded)
 
* Very good energy retention
 
* Very good energy retention
 
* Good acceleration, dive acceleration
 
* Good acceleration, dive acceleration
 
* Good climb rate
 
* Good climb rate
* Good low speed stability and turn time
+
* Good low-speed stability and turn time
 
* Good performance at high altitudes (10,000 m)
 
* Good performance at high altitudes (10,000 m)
 
* G-Suit module
 
* G-Suit module
Line 232: Line 186:
 
* Durability
 
* Durability
 
* Stable Gun Platform
 
* Stable Gun Platform
* Decent Roll Rate
+
* Decent Roll Rate (better than MiG's!)
 
* Landing hook for carriers
 
* Landing hook for carriers
  
 
'''Cons'''
 
'''Cons'''
 +
 
* Cannon jams quickly and are very inaccurate unless "new cannons" mod is activated
 
* Cannon jams quickly and are very inaccurate unless "new cannons" mod is activated
* Long takeoff run
 
* Slow roll rate
 
* Extremely poor stock model
 
 
* Not fast enough to effectively tail fast fighters
 
* Not fast enough to effectively tail fast fighters
* Big wings, easy target for Soviet 37 mm cannon
+
* Big target
* Due to battle rating of 8.0, it has a high tendency to get pitted against 9.0 jets that can outrun, outgun, and out climb it, making it a sitting duck unless an enemy pilot makes a grievous mistake
 
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== Encyclopedia Info ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
+
<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
The Twin Engine F2H Banshee was a follow up to McDonnell's successful FH-1 Phantom. The two aircraft appear very similar. Primary differences include larger airframe, armament, and power-plants. The F2H Banshee was designed to become the Navy's next carrier born aircraft. Nearly 800 Banshees were built. The aircraft was quickly passed over by newer designs.
+
The twin-engine F2H Banshee was a follow up to McDonnell's successful FH-1 Phantom and was designed to become the Navy's next carrier-borne aircraft. The two aircraft appear very similar but the F2H was improved in several ways. Primary upgrades include larger airframe, heavier armament, and better power-plants. Nearly 800 Banshees were built for the Navy and Marine Corps during the early 1950s.
  
A majority of the F2H's service took place in the Atlantic and Mediterranean oceans. A few Banshees found their way to Korea with the Navy and Marines. VF 172 was deployed to Korea in August of 1951 and immediately saw action escorting B-29s. the Banshee saw limited fighter/bomber duty. The greatest role the F2H played was photo recon. Several aircraft were refurbished and sent to Canada were they saw limited service until the 1960's.
+
The Banshee saw use in Korea with the Navy and Marines escorting Air Force B-29s on bombing missions but would never encounter an enemy fighter throughout the whole war. As a fighter/bomber, the Banshee saw limited use, but the greatest role the F2H performed in the war was doing reconnaissance over hostile territory. A majority of the F2H's service took place in the Atlantic and Mediterranean oceans but its appeal came from its ability to go unnoticed by enemy forces and would primarily serve recon or escort purposes. The Navy and Marine Corps would retire the Banshee from active service around the early 1960s and would replace it with aircraft such as the F9F Cougar, F3H Demon, and the F4D Skyray. In the 1950s several refurbished Banshees were purchased by the Canadian government where they saw limited service on the HMCS ''Bonaventure'' until the early 1960s when they were finally retired from military service.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
 
<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
 
[http://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?q=%23f2h '''Skins''' and camouflages for the F2H-2 Banshee from live.warthunder.com.]
 
[http://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?q=%23f2h '''Skins''' and camouflages for the F2H-2 Banshee from live.warthunder.com.]
<gallery>
+
 
 +
<gallery mode="packed" heights=200>
 
File:FighterImage_Banshee2.jpg|The Banshee in flight with other identical aircraft.
 
File:FighterImage_Banshee2.jpg|The Banshee in flight with other identical aircraft.
 
File:FighterImage_Banshee1.jpg|F2H attacking swarm of Me 262s in test flight mode.
 
File:FighterImage_Banshee1.jpg|F2H attacking swarm of Me 262s in test flight mode.
Line 264: Line 216:
  
 
== External links ==
 
== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
+
<!--''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
 
* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
* ''other literature.''
+
* ''other literature.''-->
 +
 
 +
* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/264956-mcdonnell-f2h-2/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
  
{{USA jet aircrafts}}
+
{{AirManufacturer McDonnell}}
 +
{{USA jet aircraft}}

Revision as of 16:42, 24 January 2021

RANK 6 USA
"APACHE" | AH-64A Peten
F2H-2
f2h-2.png
GarageImage F2H-2.jpg
360://https://wiki.warthunder.com/images/4/46/Cockpit_f2h-2.jpg
F2H-2
Research:86 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:350 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
Show in game

Description

The F2H-2 Banshee is a rank V American jet fighter with a battle rating of 8.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.45 "Steel Generals". The F2H-2 Banshee is a fantastic jet-fighter with great overall speed and good manoeuvrability. It is most recognized for its ability to remain stable even past its speed limit break (933 km/h) and also for its fantastic high-altitude performance.

The Banshee is a very stable platform at high speeds. Speed warning appears at 940 km/h, but it can reach over a 1,000 km/h and still not rip apart if flown carefully and kept it in a straight line.

Overall this jet is one of the best US early jets, it's BR of with a battle rating of 8.0 (AB/RB/SB) coupled with its very good performances make it a very pleasant aircraft to fly and grind the whole US air tree.

The aircraft is very powerful and even if one of the engines is taken out, the machine can still return to base safely.

General info

Flight performance

Arrestor gear
Accelerates braking by grabbing the brake cable on the deck of the aircraft carrier
Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Max speed
at 0 m933 km/h
Turn time26 s
Max altitude14 965 m
Engine2 х Westinghouse J34-WE-34
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight11 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 910 884 14965 26.8 27.8 21.6 20.2 670
Upgraded 947 933 25.8 26.0 33.9 27.4

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
994 342 525 525 325 ~12 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 620 < 650 < 700 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Empty mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Westinghouse J34-WE-34 2 5,620 kg 335 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 20m fuel 30m fuel 45m fuel 60m fuel 69m fuel
600 kg Axial-flow turbojet 6,674 kg 7,178 kg 7,980 kg 8,689 kg 9,142 kg 11,000 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 20m fuel 30m fuel 45m fuel 60m fuel 69m fuel MTOW
Stationary 1,469 kgf N/A 0.44 0.41 0.37 0.34 0.32 0.27
Optimal 1,469 kgf
(0 km/h)
N/A 0.44 0.41 0.37 0.34 0.32 0.27

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural994 km/h
Gear342 km/h

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 300 → 4 421 Sl icon.png
RB8 200 → 10 987 Sl icon.png
SB7 600 → 10 183 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications69 200 Rp icon.png
160 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 000 Ge icon.png
Crew training100 000 Sl icon.png
Experts350 000 Sl icon.png
Aces1 500 Ge icon.png
Research Aces670 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
100 / 280 / 320 % Sl icon.png
190 / 190 / 190 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
4 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
270 Ge icon.png
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
4 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
270 Ge icon.png
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Research:
5 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
5 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
340 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
5 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
340 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
5 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
5 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
5 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
FSBC mk.5
Research:
4 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
270 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods ammo.png
anm2_belt_pack
Research:
5 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
FRC mk.2
Research:
5 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
340 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
anm3_new_gun
Research:
5 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
FMBC mk.1
Research:
5 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
320 Ge icon.png

Compressor and Engine are always useful upgrades and all acceleration unlocks are a top priority. Given the uniqueness of the AN/M3 armament New 20 mm cannons and G-Suit should be preferable tier 4 goals. The stock belts are better than any other type of ammo, due to more two times more HEFI-T inside of them, but for the improved cannons, they need to be researched, albeit that can wait past the G-Suit. To help with the manoeuvrability issues, boosters should be considered a priority as well.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 14 x 20 mm M3 cannon
Ammunition600 rounds
Fire rate750 shots/min
Main article: M3 (20 mm)

The F2H-2 is armed with:

  • 4 x 20 mm M3 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 600 total)

Suspended armament

Number of setups3
List of setups
Setup 18 x HVAR rockets
Setup 24 x 250 lb AN-M57 bomb
Setup 32 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb

The F2H-2 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 8 x HVAR rockets
  • 4 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (1,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)

Usage in battles

The Banshee is first in the US naval jet lineup and possesses many characteristics that make it a fantastic start for jet players.

Some tips to use it effectively are:

  • Staying at a high altitude (side-climbing)
  • Avoiding/evading higher-flying prop and jet planes (Stay aware of your surroundings and watch for enemy fighters)
  • Using Boom & Zoom or Hit & Run tactics

In AB, the F2H is actually quite mediocre. Its high BR makes it liable to be put with superior jets such as the Me-262 (which has unlimited fuel, as is characteristic of AB) or the F-86 Sabre.

AB will initially be frustrating as the un-upgraded Banshee is a very poor performer. Its cannons jam, it has a relatively poor climb rate, and acceleration is poor as well.

Once upgraded, however, the Banshee can be a very effective and useful plane.

The F2H-2 is most effectively used as an energy fighter. It has great energy retention, turns well, and accelerates quite well once fully researched. However, the stock Banshee is terrible compared to super-props such as the Tempest Mk.II, F8F-1B, La-9, and others. Therefore, it is recommended to climb at the beginning of a match to at least 4-6 km as the Banshee performs extremely well at these altitudes. However, keep in mind that evasion of superior planes such as the F8F-1B or the MiG-15 is key. Once optimal altitude is reached, Boom & Zoom can be employed. The F2H has sluggish controls at speeds below 482 kph (300 mph) so try to maintain above that speed in level flight. But when facing super-props, low-speed stability coupled with an airbrake makes the Banshee an extremely good prop-killer. If you maintain a high speed during combat, you can outrun most jets at your Battle Rating.

If you are unlucky, you will face the F-86A and MiG-15 in some battles, be sure to avoid them at all costs as they climb far better than the Banshee and have superior top speed.

Unfortunately, like most other jets, modifications take a long while to grind. Go for anything that increases the Banshee's climb rate. Leave the cannon ammo belts alone because default has the most HE shells (besides Stealth), and research the New Cannons modification; It will markedly improve the terrible spread of the cannon.

The cockpit of the F2H-2 is fantastic- the bubble canopy provides good visibility to the front and back of the aircraft.

Even with good advantages as a starting jet fighter (if you went with the Naval Line of USA Fighters), it has some disadvantages going up against MiG-15's and MiG-17's. It can certainly outrun La-174's and La-15's with splendid ease, but it will never be able to outrun a MiG once it's on your tail. As for MiG-9's, they can't outrun the Banshee but can probably out-turn it if the MiG-9 pilot is properly trained and experienced.

It's best used as a support fighter in EVERY situation unless you are down-tiered and you are put against Ho-229's and Me-262's. In this case, you can become an aggressive fighter and easily score some kills. Although if you are put up against MiG-17's, MiG-15's and La-15's, best prepare yourself to side-climb and get behind your allies. Get some altitude and be patient to pursue MiG's that are either chasing Hunter's or Sabers or an unfortunate bomber.

A good recommendation is that you should never go for IL-28s alone. Other recommendations are that you should never take rockets or bombs unless you're in a squad and you bomb points together. It is NOT recommended either way. Another tip is to try holding your speed and use airbrakes when being tailed by a MiG.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Amazing firepower (especially when spaded)
  • Very good energy retention
  • Good acceleration, dive acceleration
  • Good climb rate
  • Good low-speed stability and turn time
  • Good performance at high altitudes (10,000 m)
  • G-Suit module
  • Cheap Repairs
  • Durability
  • Stable Gun Platform
  • Decent Roll Rate (better than MiG's!)
  • Landing hook for carriers

Cons

  • Cannon jams quickly and are very inaccurate unless "new cannons" mod is activated
  • Not fast enough to effectively tail fast fighters
  • Big target

History

The twin-engine F2H Banshee was a follow up to McDonnell's successful FH-1 Phantom and was designed to become the Navy's next carrier-borne aircraft. The two aircraft appear very similar but the F2H was improved in several ways. Primary upgrades include larger airframe, heavier armament, and better power-plants. Nearly 800 Banshees were built for the Navy and Marine Corps during the early 1950s.

The Banshee saw use in Korea with the Navy and Marines escorting Air Force B-29s on bombing missions but would never encounter an enemy fighter throughout the whole war. As a fighter/bomber, the Banshee saw limited use, but the greatest role the F2H performed in the war was doing reconnaissance over hostile territory. A majority of the F2H's service took place in the Atlantic and Mediterranean oceans but its appeal came from its ability to go unnoticed by enemy forces and would primarily serve recon or escort purposes. The Navy and Marine Corps would retire the Banshee from active service around the early 1960s and would replace it with aircraft such as the F9F Cougar, F3H Demon, and the F4D Skyray. In the 1950s several refurbished Banshees were purchased by the Canadian government where they saw limited service on the HMCS Bonaventure until the early 1960s when they were finally retired from military service.

Media

Skins and camouflages for the F2H-2 Banshee from live.warthunder.com.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


McDonnell Aircraft Corporation
Jet Fighters  F2H-2 · F3H-2
  F-4C Phantom II · F-4E Phantom II
Export / License  F-4EJ Phantom II · Phantom FG.1 · Phantom FGR.2
  The McDonnell Aircraft Corporation merged with Douglas Aircraft Company in 1967 to form McDonnell Douglas.
See Also  Mitsubishi Heavy Industries

USA jet aircraft
AV-8  AV-8A · AV-8C
F-4  F-4C Phantom II · F-4E Phantom II
F-80  F-80A-5 · F-80C-10
F-84  F-84B-26 · F-84F · F-84G-21-RE
F-86  F-86A-5 · F-86F-25 · F-86F-2 · F-86F-35
F-89  F-89B · F-89D
F-104  F-104A · F-104C
F9F  F9F-2 · F9F-5 · F9F-8
FJ-4  FJ-4B · FJ-4B VMF-232
Other  P-59A · F3D-1 · F2H-2 · F3H-2 · F11F-1 · F-100D
A-4  A-4B · A-4E Early
A-7  A-7D
B-57  B-57A · B-57B