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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
=== Flight performance ===
The F-86K is a good 9.0 but not the best. The F-86K has very good low end acceleration due to its afterburner, but you are only subsonic. Like every other jet, it's bad at maneuvering at low speeds and compresses at high speed. However, the F-86K can handle top speed relatively well compared to other 9.0s. The F-86K can do one thing very well, which is going into verticals.  
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The F-86K is a good aircraft at its rank, but not the best. The F-86K has very good low-end acceleration due to its afterburner, however, this aircraft is still only a subsonic fighter. Like every other jet, it's bad at manoeuvring at low speeds and it's control surfaces compress at high speeds. However, the F-86K can handle top speed relatively well compared to other aircraft of its rank. If the F-86K can do one thing very well, it excels when going into vertical flight.  
  
 
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="8" | Characteristics
 
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - at sea level)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - at sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
 
|-
 
|-
 
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
 
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
 
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| 1,103 || 1,097 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 27.4 || 28.3 || 42.7 || 37.1 || 1,000
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! Stock
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| 1,103 || 1,097 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 27.4 || 28.3 || 42.7 || 37.1 || rowspan="2" | 1,000
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - at sea level)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
 
 
|-
 
|-
| ??? || ??? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || 1,000
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! Upgraded
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| ??? || 1,111 || ??.? || 27.0 || ??.? || 56.0
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
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|-
 
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
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! colspan="6" | Features
 
|-
 
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
 
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|-
 
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|-
 
|-
! colspan="5" | Limits
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! colspan="7" | Limits
 
|-
 
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Combat flaps<br>(km/h)
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! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
|-
 
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! + !! -
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|constructions}} || {{Specs|destruction|chassis}} || 620 || ~8 || ~4
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 620 || 620 || 370 || ~8 || ~4
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
 
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
! Rudder<br>(km/h)
 
! Elevators<br>(km/h)
 
! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
 
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|-
 
| < 850 || < 600 || < 660 || N/A
 
| < 850 || < 600 || < 660 || N/A
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==== Engine performance ====
 
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|-
 
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! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
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! colspan="3" | Engine
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! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
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! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
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! colspan="2" | Empty mass || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
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| colspan="2" | General Electric J47-GE-17B || 1
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| colspan="2" | 6,430 kg || colspan="3" | 292 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
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! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
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! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br/>Weight
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! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
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! 13m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 46m fuel
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| 1,150 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
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| 6,952 kg || 7,227 kg || 7,620 kg || 8,248 kg || 9,530 kg
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
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! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
 
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! colspan="3" | Setting 1
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! Condition || 100% || WEP
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! 13m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 46m fuel || MTOW
 
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! Optimal altitude
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| ''Stationary'' || 2,294 kgf || 4,467 kgf
! 100% Engine power
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| 0.64 || 0.62 || 0.59 || 0.54 || 0.47
! WEP Engine power
 
 
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| 0 m || 2,105 kgf || 4,098 kgf
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| ''Optimal'' || 2,294 kgf<br/>(0 km/h) || 4,467 kgf<br/>(0 km/h)
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| 0.64 || 0.62 || 0.59 || 0.54 || 0.47
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
The F-86K should be used as a support fighter mainly. This is due to its sub-par maneuverability compared to other 9.0s like the MiG-17 or the F2 Sabre at low speeds. In a 1v1 dogfight, the F-86K has almost no chance against a MiG-17 unless you fight in a vertical, which you should do most of the time. You also have 4 M24A1s which are excellent against bomber hunters, but also in a head-ons. However, don't commit to head ons, instead fire a burst from maybe .8 km out then pull out. This is to decrease the chances of both of you crashing and increasing your chance of surviving. Your opponents will mainly be 8.7s like the MiG-15 Bis or A5 Sabre which you can easily out climb or out run. However, sometimes you will get up tiered to 10.0. This is when your wet thrust advantage is nullified as you face F-100s that are supersonic. You will also meet Hunter F6's if you get up tiered. If you see a Hunter F.6 you can't really do much except pray to Gaijin that he doesn't have SRAAMs. If he doesn't have SRAAMs then you can fight him in a vertical.   
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The F-86K should be used mainly as a support fighter, due to its sub-par manoeuvrability compared to other aircraft at its rank such as the MiG-17 at low speeds. In a 1 vs 1 dogfight, the F-86K outclassed when pitted against a MiG-17 unless you fight in a vertical, which this aircraft should do most of the time. When it comes to bomber hunting, this aircraft has four M24A1s, however these are also fantastic to use during a head-on attack. However, don't commit to head ons, instead fire a burst from maybe .8 km out then pull out. This is to decrease the chances of both of you crashing and increasing your chance of surviving. Your opponents will mainly be slightly lower-ranked aircraft like the MiG-15 Bis or F-86 A5 Sabre which you can easily out climb or outrun. However, sometimes you will get up-tiered to a higher rank and unfortunately, any thrust advantage is nullified when facing F-100s which are supersonic aircraft. There is a potential to be matched up against Hunter F6's which can be armed with the devastating SRAAM missiles.   
  
 
=== Modules ===
 
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* Missile lock can be broken with a high-G manoeuvre
 
* Missile lock can be broken with a high-G manoeuvre
 
* Prone to wing rips with strong input
 
* Prone to wing rips with strong input
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== History ==
 
== History ==
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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;Related development
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* Canadair [[F-86 (Family)|Sabre]] (those Sabres manufactured with the designator "CL")
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* North American [[F-86 (Family)|F-86A/F]]
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* North American [[F-100D|F-100]] Super Sabre
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* North American [[FJ-4B|FJ-4]] Fury
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* Dassault [[Super Mystere B2|Super Mystère]]
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* Grumman [[F9F-8|F-9]] Cougar
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* Hawker [[Hunter F.1|Hunter]]
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* Lavochkin [[La-15]]
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* Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-15]]
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* Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-17]]
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* Saab [[J29D|J29]] Tunnan
  
 
== External links ==
 
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* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
 
* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
 
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* [http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p86_17.html [joebaugher<nowiki>.com]</nowiki> North American F-86K Sabre]
  
* http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p86_17.html [History]
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This page is about the jet fighter F-86K (Italy). For the French version, see F-86K (France). For other versions, see F-86 (Family).

Description

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The ▄F-86K Sabre is a rank VI Italian jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0 (AB/RB) and 9.3 (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.91 "Night Vision".

General info

Flight performance

The F-86K is a good aircraft at its rank, but not the best. The F-86K has very good low-end acceleration due to its afterburner, however, this aircraft is still only a subsonic fighter. Like every other jet, it's bad at manoeuvring at low speeds and it's control surfaces compress at high speeds. However, the F-86K can handle top speed relatively well compared to other aircraft of its rank. If the F-86K can do one thing very well, it excels when going into vertical flight.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - at sea level)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,103 1,097 15500 27.4 28.3 42.7 37.1 1,000
Upgraded  ??? 1,111  ??.? 27.0  ??.? 56.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
0 350 620 620 370 ~8 ~4
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 850 < 600 < 660 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Empty mass Wing loading (full fuel)
General Electric J47-GE-17B 1 6,430 kg 292 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 13m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 46m fuel
1,150 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 6,952 kg 7,227 kg 7,620 kg 8,248 kg 9,530 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 13m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 46m fuel MTOW
Stationary 2,294 kgf 4,467 kgf 0.64 0.62 0.59 0.54 0.47
Optimal 2,294 kgf
(0 km/h)
4,467 kgf
(0 km/h)
0.64 0.62 0.59 0.54 0.47

Survivability and armour

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: M24A1 (20 mm)

The F-86K (Italy) is armed with:

  • 4 x 20 mm M24A1 cannons, nose-mounted (132 rpg = 528 total)

Suspended armament

Main article: AIM-9B

The F-86K (Italy) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 2 x AIM-9B missiles

Usage in battles

The F-86K should be used mainly as a support fighter, due to its sub-par manoeuvrability compared to other aircraft at its rank such as the MiG-17 at low speeds. In a 1 vs 1 dogfight, the F-86K outclassed when pitted against a MiG-17 unless you fight in a vertical, which this aircraft should do most of the time. When it comes to bomber hunting, this aircraft has four M24A1s, however these are also fantastic to use during a head-on attack. However, don't commit to head ons, instead fire a burst from maybe .8 km out then pull out. This is to decrease the chances of both of you crashing and increasing your chance of surviving. Your opponents will mainly be slightly lower-ranked aircraft like the MiG-15 Bis or F-86 A5 Sabre which you can easily out climb or outrun. However, sometimes you will get up-tiered to a higher rank and unfortunately, any thrust advantage is nullified when facing F-100s which are supersonic aircraft. There is a potential to be matched up against Hunter F6's which can be armed with the devastating SRAAM missiles.

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Compressor Offensive 20 mm
II New boosters Airframe AIM-9B
III Wings repair Engine New 20 mm cannons
IV G-suit Cover

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good top speed
  • Great firepower of four 20 mm cannons
  • Good high-speed manoeuvrability
  • Access to Sidewinder missiles

Cons:

  • Not as manoeuvrable as earlier-model Sabres (F-86A/F)
  • Missile lock can be broken with a high-G manoeuvre
  • Prone to wing rips with strong input

History

The F-86K is the NATO variant of the F-86D with the exception it did not sport the internal FFAR Mighty Mouse rocket launcher, but 20 mm cannons and Sidewinder missiles instead. Many foreign countries wanted a high altitude interceptor. This need was created by the Soviet bomber threat many Western countries feared of. The U.S. felt the F-86D would be the perfect candidate for NATO countries, however, they didn't give the F-86D away. This was due to sensitive material the F-86D possessed, especially the state-of-the-art fire control system. Not only was the fire control system sensitive info, but it was also unreliable and the U.S. did not want to give unreliable equipment to other NATO countries. So the U.S. came up with the F-86K, an almost exact copy of the F-86D other than an improvised fire control and a slightly longer nose. After the F-86K was designed, production started with NAA (North American Arms) making around a hundred F-86K's. These were shipped to NATO countries and Italy, but the U.S. also sent sets of parts to Italy around 1956. Fiat took these sets and assembled their own F-86K's. Some of the Fiat assembled F-86K's were shipped to France or other NATO countries. Italy continued to use F-86K's up until they started to slowly get rid of them starting 1964 to make space for the F-104 Starfighter. The last Italian F-86K was decommissioned in 1973.

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Related development
  • Canadair Sabre (those Sabres manufactured with the designator "CL")
  • North American F-86A/F
  • North American F-100 Super Sabre
  • North American FJ-4 Fury
Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

External links


North American Aviation
Fighters 
P-51A  P-51
P-51C  P-51C-10
P-51D  P-51D-5 · P-51D-10 · P-51D-20-NA · P-51D-30
P-51H  P-51H-5-NA
Twin-engine fighters  F-82E
Jet fighters  F-86A-5 · F-86F-2 · F-86F-25 · F-86F-35 · F-100D
Strike aircraft  A-36 · PBJ-1H · PBJ-1J
  FJ-4B · FJ-4B VMF-232
Bombers  B-25J-1 · B-25J-20
Export/Licence  ▂B-25J-30 · ␗B-25J-30
  ▄Mustang Mk IA · F-6C-10-NA · ␗P-51D-20 · J26 David · J26 · P-51D-20-NA · ␗P-51K
  F-86F-30 ▅ · ␗F-86F-30 · F-86F-40 ▅ · F-86F-40 JASDF▅ · ␗F-86F-40
  ◄F-86K · ▄F-86K (Italy) · ▄F-86K (France)
  ␗F-100A · ▄F-100D · ␗F-100F
Captured  ▅P-51C-11-NT
  Canadair Limited license-built the F-86 as the CL-13 for use in Canada and export to Europe.
  Fiat license-built the F-86K for the Italian Air Force though another 120 NAA built F-86Ks were also sold to the Italians.
See Also  Mitsubishi Heavy Industries · Canadair Limited · Fiat Aviation

Italy jet aircraft
Aefer  Sagittario 2 · Ariete
Fiat  G.91 pre-serie · G.91 R/1 · G.91 R/4 (Portugal) · G.91 Y · G.91 YS
AMX International  AMX
Panavia  Tornado ADV · ▄Tornado IDS (1995)
  Foreign:
Vampire  Vampire FB 52A
F-84  ▄F-84F · ▄F-84G-21-RE
F-86  CL-13 Mk.4 · ▄F-86K
F-104  ▄F-104G · F-104S · ▄F-104S TAF (Turkey) · F-104S.ASA
F-16  ▄F-16A ADF
AV-8  ▄AV-8B Plus
Hungary 
Mikoyan-Gurevich  ◔MiG-15bis · ◔MiG-17PF · ◔MiG-21MF · ◔MiG-21bis-SAU · ◔MiG-23MF · ◔MiG-29
Ilyushin  ◔IL-28
Sukhoi  ◔Su-22M3
Saab  ◔JAS39EBS HU C