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{{Notice|''This page is about the aircraft '''{{PAGENAME}}'''. For other uses, see [[F-86_(Disambiguation)|F-86 (Disambiguation)]]''}}
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{{About
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating|1}}.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.35]].
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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight Performance ===
 
=== Flight Performance ===
<!--''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, maneuverability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''-->
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<!-- Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle. -->
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at ?,000 m)
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
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! ABN1K2-J
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! AB
 
! RB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
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! RB
 
! RB
 
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| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ???
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|1,095||1,089|| {{Specs|ceiling}} ||24.7||25.9||38.8||35.9||750
 
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|-
 
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at ?,000 m)
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m)
 
! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
 
! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
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! RB
 
! RB
 
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|-
| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ???
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|1,115||1,106|| {{Specs|ceiling}} ||23.6||24.0||56.5||46.7||750
 
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! -
 
! -
 
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| {{Specs|разрушение|конструкции}} || {{Specs|разрушение|шасси}} || 620 || ~?? || ~?
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| {{Specs|разрушение|конструкции}} || {{Specs|разрушение|шасси}} || 620 || ~12 || ~7
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* 6.35 mm steel - in front of cockpit
* No armour plating
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* 12.7 mm steel - behind pilot
* No armour glazing
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* 38 mm steel - armoured windscreen
* Critical components located at front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
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* 20 mm steel pilot's headrest
* More fuel tanks located in wings near fuselage
 
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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<!--''Describe the offensive armament of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.''-->
{{main|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}}
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{{main|FMC T-160 (20 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
  
* 4 x 7.5 mm [[MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)|MAC 1934]] machine guns (300 rpg = 1,200 total)
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* 4 x 20 mm FMC T-160 cannons, nose-mounted (115 rpg = 460 total)
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<!--=== Suspended armament ===
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=== Suspended armament ===
''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''-->
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<!--''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''-->
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;''Main article:&nbsp;'''[[:Category:Suspended armaments|Bombs]]'''''-->
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{{main|AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}
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=== Defensive armament ===
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordinance:
''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available remove this subsection.''
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* Without payload
== Usage in the battles ==
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* 16 x 127 mm HVAR rockets
<!--''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''-->
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* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
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===Manual Engine Control===
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== Usage in battles ==
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In RB, speed is life on this plane. First thing that should be done after takeoff is gaining at least 800-900 kph IAS in level flight and zoom climbing to around 2 km(or we can fight even at the deck, all depends on situation). Maintaining speed at 800 kph is very important. BnZ is main tactic, don't engage in vertical with MiG-15bis. Sabre easily outdive MiG-15bis(Sabre have higher top speed, which means MiG-15bis won't be able to catch Sabre in level flight/dive). Avoid flying slow and turnfighting.
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
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! rowspan="2" |Mixer
 
! rowspan="2" |Pitch
 
! colspan="3" |Radiator
 
! rowspan="2" |Supercharger
 
! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger
 
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! Oil
 
! Water
 
! Type
 
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| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Not ontrollable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
 
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===Modules===
 
===Modules===
 
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| Radiator
 
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|Offensive 20 mm
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| II
 
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| Airframe
 
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|FRC mk.2
 
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| III
 
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| Engine
 
| Engine
 
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|New 20 mm cannons
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| Cover
 
| Cover
 
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|FLBC mk.1
 
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=== Pros and Cons ===
 
=== Pros and Cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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== History ==
 
== History ==
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The F-86F-2 was the designation given to 10 aircraft (4 F-86E and 6 F-86F) modified to carry the M39 Revolver cannon in October 1952. They were fitted with larger and strengthened gun bays to make them able to receive the new cannons. They were tested at Edwards AFB and the Air Proving Ground at Eglin AFB. Eight of these aircraft were then shipped to Japan (two were lost during testing due to the compressors ingesting excessive propellant gases from the cannons). Seven of these aircraft were then deployed to Kimpo Airfield as "Project GunVal" for a 16-week combat field trial in early 1953.
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The F-86F-2 is the official designation for F-86E and F aircraft that were retrofitted with strengthened and enlarged gun bays to carry the new T-160 cannon developed from the captured Mauser MG 213, a German autocannon which never saw service. The aircraft were flight tested at Edwards and Eglin Air Force Bases. The aircraft were then relocated to Kimpo Airfield for tests in actual combat. Two aircraft were lost after the engine ingested excessive amounts of exhaust gases from the cannons.
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The F-86 is considered one of the best fighter jets of the Korean War. It is the most-produced Western fighter, with almost 10,000 aircraft produced by the US, Australia, Canada (as the re-engined CL-13), Italy, and Japan.
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The F-86 was developed by North American Aviation, the creator of the venerable P-51 Mustang. The XP-86 prototype was created to meet the USAF requirement for a high-altitude escort fighter. It was derived from the Navy's FJ-1 Fury, a transitional fighter jet that borrowed the wings, tail surfaces and canopy from the P-51D. The XP-86 was under threat of cancellation because the XP-80 and XP-84 had similar performance characteristics and were farther ahead in development. However, North American designers made a radical change to the design and replaced the straight wing with a swept wing, which was shown by seized German research to greatly reduce drag and increase performance at high speed. The resulting performance boost was so significant that the swept-wing prototype of the XP-86 was supposedly able break the sound barrier in a dive a few days before Chuck Yeager made his official attempt.
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The F-86F-2 is the designation for four F-86E and six F-86F aircraft that were retrofitted to carry four 20mm T-160 (later designated M39) revolver cannons. The cannon was derived from the Mauser MG 213, a prototype aircraft cannon developed by the Germans at the end of World War II, which also served as a basis for the British ADEN and French DEFA cannons. The aircraft were deployed to Kimpo Airfield for trials in combat in 1953. Despite losing two aircraft after compressor stalls from ingesting too many exhaust gases from the new cannons, the M-39 cannon became the standard armament for the F-86H, a fighter-bomber variant with a more powerful engine.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
''An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
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''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
  
== Read also ==
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== See also ==
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;Related development
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* Canadair [[F-86 (Family)|Sabre]] (those Sabres manufactured with the designator "CL")
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* North American [[F-86 (Family)|F-86A/F]]
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* North American [[F-86K (France)|F-86D]] Sabre
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* North American [[F-100D|F-100]] Super Sabre
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* North American [[FJ-4B|FJ-4]] Fury
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;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era
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* Dassault [[Super Mystere B2|Super Mystère]]
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* Grumman [[F9F-8|F-9]] Cougar
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* Hawker [[Hunter F.1|Hunter]]
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* Lavochkin [[La-15]]
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* Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-15]]
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* Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-17]]
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* Saab [[J29D|J29]] Tunnan
  
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== External links ==
 
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* ''other literature.''
 
* ''other literature.''
  
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Revision as of 20:23, 31 December 2019

F-86F-2 Sabre
f-86f-2.png
Cockpit
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
9.0/9.0/9.0BR
1 personCrew
9.5 tTake-off weight
11.25 kg/sBurst mass
Flight characteristics
14 700 mCeiling
General Electric J47-GE-27Engine
JetType
airCooling system
Speed of destruction
1170 km/hStructural
350 km/hGear
Offensive armament
2 x 20 mm FMC T-160 cannonWeapon 1
230 roundsAmmunition
1 500 shots/minFire rate
Suspended armament
16 x HVAR rocketsSetup 1
2 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombSetup 2
Economy
380 000 Rp icon.pngResearch
990 000 Sl icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png12 000 / 16 187/12 830 / 17 307/3 300 / 4 451Repair
280 000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
990 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
2 200 Ge icon.pngAces
214 % Rp icon.pngReward for battle
420 % Sl icon.png300 % Sl icon.png130 % Sl icon.png
This page is about the aircraft F-86F-2. For other uses, see F-86 (Family).

Description

GarageImage F-86F-2.jpg


The F-86F-2 Sabre is a Rank VI American jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.35.

General info

Flight Performance

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
1,095 1,089 14 700 24.7 25.9 38.8 35.9 750
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m)
Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
1,115 1,106 14 700 23.6 24.0 56.5 46.7 750

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flap
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
1170 350 620 ~12 ~7
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 850 < 600 < 650 > 250

Survivability and armour

  • 6.35 mm steel - in front of cockpit
  • 12.7 mm steel - behind pilot
  • 38 mm steel - armoured windscreen
  • 20 mm steel pilot's headrest

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: FMC T-160 (20 mm)

The F-86F-2 is armed with:

  • 4 x 20 mm FMC T-160 cannons, nose-mounted (115 rpg = 460 total)

Suspended armament

The F-86F-2 can be outfitted with the following ordinance:

  • Without payload
  • 16 x 127 mm HVAR rockets
  • 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)

Usage in battles

In RB, speed is life on this plane. First thing that should be done after takeoff is gaining at least 800-900 kph IAS in level flight and zoom climbing to around 2 km(or we can fight even at the deck, all depends on situation). Maintaining speed at 800 kph is very important. BnZ is main tactic, don't engage in vertical with MiG-15bis. Sabre easily outdive MiG-15bis(Sabre have higher top speed, which means MiG-15bis won't be able to catch Sabre in level flight/dive). Avoid flying slow and turnfighting.

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Radiator Offensive 20 mm
II Compressor Airframe FRC mk.2
III Wings Repair Engine New 20 mm cannons
IV Engine Injection Cover FLBC mk.1

Pros and Cons

Pros:

  • Very fast roll rate
  • Very accurate high-velocity cannons with little recoil
  • Excels overall at high-speed manoeuvres, good for snapshots
  • Good rate of turn in the horizontal
  • Good zooming ability
  • Energy retention superior to MiG-15
  • Superior acceleration from high speeds to top speed than MiG-15
  • Heavy bombs available if desired

Cons:

  • Extremely high rate of fire demand strict trigger discipline
  • Stock guns quickly jam when the trigger is held down
  • Poor acceleration from low speeds compared to MiG-15
  • Poor rate of climb
  • Wings easier to rip when boosters equipped
  • air-brake less effective than some opponents

History

The F-86F-2 was the designation given to 10 aircraft (4 F-86E and 6 F-86F) modified to carry the M39 Revolver cannon in October 1952. They were fitted with larger and strengthened gun bays to make them able to receive the new cannons. They were tested at Edwards AFB and the Air Proving Ground at Eglin AFB. Eight of these aircraft were then shipped to Japan (two were lost during testing due to the compressors ingesting excessive propellant gases from the cannons). Seven of these aircraft were then deployed to Kimpo Airfield as "Project GunVal" for a 16-week combat field trial in early 1953.

The F-86F-2 is the official designation for F-86E and F aircraft that were retrofitted with strengthened and enlarged gun bays to carry the new T-160 cannon developed from the captured Mauser MG 213, a German autocannon which never saw service. The aircraft were flight tested at Edwards and Eglin Air Force Bases. The aircraft were then relocated to Kimpo Airfield for tests in actual combat. Two aircraft were lost after the engine ingested excessive amounts of exhaust gases from the cannons.

The F-86 is considered one of the best fighter jets of the Korean War. It is the most-produced Western fighter, with almost 10,000 aircraft produced by the US, Australia, Canada (as the re-engined CL-13), Italy, and Japan.

The F-86 was developed by North American Aviation, the creator of the venerable P-51 Mustang. The XP-86 prototype was created to meet the USAF requirement for a high-altitude escort fighter. It was derived from the Navy's FJ-1 Fury, a transitional fighter jet that borrowed the wings, tail surfaces and canopy from the P-51D. The XP-86 was under threat of cancellation because the XP-80 and XP-84 had similar performance characteristics and were farther ahead in development. However, North American designers made a radical change to the design and replaced the straight wing with a swept wing, which was shown by seized German research to greatly reduce drag and increase performance at high speed. The resulting performance boost was so significant that the swept-wing prototype of the XP-86 was supposedly able break the sound barrier in a dive a few days before Chuck Yeager made his official attempt.

The F-86F-2 is the designation for four F-86E and six F-86F aircraft that were retrofitted to carry four 20mm T-160 (later designated M39) revolver cannons. The cannon was derived from the Mauser MG 213, a prototype aircraft cannon developed by the Germans at the end of World War II, which also served as a basis for the British ADEN and French DEFA cannons. The aircraft were deployed to Kimpo Airfield for trials in combat in 1953. Despite losing two aircraft after compressor stalls from ingesting too many exhaust gases from the new cannons, the M-39 cannon became the standard armament for the F-86H, a fighter-bomber variant with a more powerful engine.

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Related development
  • Canadair Sabre (those Sabres manufactured with the designator "CL")
  • North American F-86A/F
  • North American F-86D Sabre
  • North American F-100 Super Sabre
  • North American FJ-4 Fury
Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
  • other literature.


North American Aviation
Attackers  A-36 · PBJ-1H · PBJ-1J
Fighters  P-51 · P-51A · P-51D-5 · P-51D-10 · P-51D-20-NA · P-51D-30 · P-51H-5-NA · F-82E
Bombers  B-25J-1 · B-25J-20
Jet Fighters  FJ-4B · FJ-4B VMF-232 · F-86A-5 · F-86F-2 · F-86F-25 · F-86F-35 · F-100D
Export  ␗B-25J-30 · ▂B-25J-30 · J26 · ▄Mustang Mk IA · ␗P-51D-20 · ␗P-51K · ␗F-86F-30 · F-86F-30 ▅ · F-86F-40 ▅ · F-86F-40 JASDF▅ · ▄F-86K
  ▄F-86K · ▄F-100D
  The North American Aviation allowed Canadair Limited to license-build the F-86 as the CL-13 for use in Canada and to export to Europe.

USA jet aircraft
F-4  F-4C Phantom II
F-80  F-80A-5 · F-80C-10
F-84  F-84B-26 · F-84G-21-RE
F-86  F-86A-5 · F-86F-25 · F-86F-2 · F-86F-35
F-89  F-89B · F-89D
F9F  F9F-2 · F9F-5 · F9F-8
Other  P-59A · F3D-1 · F2H-2 · FJ-4B · FJ-4B VMF-232 · F-100D
B-57  B-57A · B-57B