F-84G-26-RE (France)

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▄F-84G-26-RE
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▄F-84G-26-RE
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This page is about the France jet fighter ▄F-84G-26-RE Thunderjet. For other uses, see F-84 (Family).

Description

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The ▄F-84G-26-RE Thunderjet is a Rank V France jet fighter with a battle rating of 7.7 (AB/RB) and 8.0 (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.79 "Project X".

Republic Aircraft Company’s jump into the jet fighter market was not as smooth as they would have liked. All aircraft companies have issues early on with their prototypes and early models, however, they tend to grow out of them rather quickly, unfortunately, this was not to happen for Republic with the F-84. Designing fighters around a jet engine was relatively new and prototypes were rushed before full testing could take place. While promising that the F-84 would best Lockheed’s P-80 Shooting Star, the F-84B, C, D and E variants, for the most part, fell short. The issue was not solely the problem of the jet, but also the engine it was required to use. Deficiencies noted included weak wings, twisting of wing-tip fuel tanks, structure warping, skin buckling and a severe shortage of engines and engine parts for overhauls when the aircraft was used more often than expected. Several times the entire fleet of F-84s were grounded until severe defects could be rectified.

Six years after the YP-84 rolled off the assembly line, Republic had many of the previous deficiencies fixed and rolled out the F-84G. Not only did the F-84G address all of the previous model’s issues, but it also came out with several ground-breaking features which included the first fighter aircraft with the ability to refuel mid-flight and the ability to carry a Mark 7 nuclear bomb. Issues with the wings resulted in thicker wings adding strength to reduce twisting especially at high speeds and the wing-tip fuel tanks were modified to make them more aerodynamically stable during manoeuvres. This aircraft served the United States Air Force into the mid-1960 before it was retired, however other nations such as Italy and Taiwan (Republic of China) continued to use the fighter past that point with Greece finally retiring their last three in 1991.

Even with the changes from earlier models, even in-game pilots will notice the quirkiness of the F-84G. Even with the more powerful Allison J35-A-29 jet engine, actual pilots of the Thunderjet nicknamed it “The World’s Fastest Tricycle” (a play on the newer tricycle landing gear configuration) or “The Lead Sled” due to its extremely long takeoff roll. Even though an upgrade from the F-84B, this aircraft has the same roll-out time, typically due to the heavier payloads afforded to this aircraft. Though, once at altitude and during attack runs, the F-84G is an incredibly stable platform and can be outfitted with a number of various suspended armaments along with its six 12.7 mm M3 Browning machine guns. Though each gun only has 300 rounds of ammunition, trigger control is necessary or else the pilot will be left with empty guns in short order. Considered a multi-role aircraft, the F-84G can be utilised as a fighter-interceptor, bomber interceptor and ground attack fighter. The F-84G can be laden with a variety of bombs ranging from 100 lbs all the way up to two 1,000 lb bombs. HVAR and Tiny Tim rockets are a viable option alone or mixed with bombs to expand the options of targets to be attacked depending on the map the pilot is flying in.

Like many jet fighters, flying slowly makes for an easy target and this is no exception for the F-84G. Speed is necessary to ensure manoeuvrability both to engage a target and to shake a tail. Though not the fastest fighter at this rank, the F-84G can hold its own and when pressed, the six centre lined M3 Browning machine guns can punch enough holes in an enemy fighter to bring it down and allow it to move onto the next target. Don’t expect this fighter when laden down with two 1,000 lbs bombs or two Tiny Tim and 24 HVAR rockets to excel in a dog-fight as it won’t with all that weight, however, after all that ordnance is released the F-84B can then mix it up, though it is preferable to maintain speed while performing Boom & Zoom manoeuvres allowing the fighter to get on target and then speed away to set up for the next shot.

While dealing with mixed reviews over its positive and negative aspects, the F-84 series aircraft paved the way for a later aircraft which magnified all of the positive qualities of the F-84, being a stable firing platform, loaded to the gills with assorted suspended armaments and a main gun which rained destruction on the enemy, this aircraft would later be know as the Fairchild-Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II.

General info

Flight Performance

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
976 971 12,500 28.9 30.5 30.1 29.5 1,500
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ?  ? 12,500  ??.?  ??.?  ?.?  ?.? 1,500

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flap
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
 ???  ???  ??? ~?? ~?
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< ??? < ??? < ??? > ???
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
 ?,??? m  ??? hp  ?,??? hp

Survivability and armour

  • 6.35 mm Steel - in front of the pilot
  • 8 mm Steel - behind the pilot
  • 6.35 mm Steel - pilot's headrest
  • 38 mm Bulletproof glass

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: Browning M3 (12.7 mm)

The F-84G-26-RE (France) is armed with:

  • 6 x 12.7 M3 Browning machine guns(300 rpg = 1800 total)

The six machine guns are arranged two groups, four mounted in the nose of the aircraft and the other two located with one near each wing root. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire with each other until empty.

Suspended armament

Main articles: HVAR, Tiny Tim

The F-84G-26-RE (France) can be outfitted with the following ordinance:

  • Without load
  • 2 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs (200 lb = total)
  • 2 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (500 lb = total)
  • 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb = total)
  • 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb = total)
  • 24 x HVAR rockets
  • 32 x HVAR rockets
  • 24 x HVAR rockets & 2 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs (200 lb = total)
  • 24 x HVAR rockets & 2 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (500 lb = total)
  • 24 x HVAR rockets & 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb = total)
  • 24 x HVAR rockets & 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb = total)
  • 2 x Tiny Tim rockets & 24 x HVAR rockets

Usage in the battles

The F-84G-26-RE should be played as an aggressive Boom & Zoom fighter, especially at the occasions where you get an air-spawn. Meaning that as soon as you spawn in it, you turn to the direction of the enemy airfield to rush and reach +850 km/h. Engage those who are climbing, there is also a chance of catching a few unaware climbers too. After climbing to engage a climber, don't turn back to them if they evade. Continue zoom climbing, do a vertical loop and maintain level flight to gain a little bit more speed. After that, the only way you're supposed to fly against enemies is by diving, engaging, zooming back up, complete a vertical loop then rinse and repeat.

The F-84G's acceleration is one of the best at its battle rating. It has a very good climb rate. It has got 6 x 12.7mm M3 machine guns with 1,800 rounds of ammunition which is plenty. Turn rate is poor, avoid turn fighting in it. Roll rate is average without New Boosters, good with New Boosters.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Automatic pitch
Controllable Not controllable Combined Controllable Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Offensive 12 mm FRC mk.7 FSBC mk.1
II New Boosters Compressor Airframe FRC mk.7a FSBC mk.5
III Wings Repair Engine New 12 mm MGs FMBC mk.1
IV G-Suit Cover LFRC mk.12 FLBC mk.1

Pros and cons

Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Do not use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".

Pros:

  • Very high top speed for an early jet
  • Can carry large amounts of payloads
  • Wide variety of secondary armament (bombs, rockets)
  • 6 x 12.7 mm M3 machine guns
  • Very good acceleration for an early jet, even stock

Cons:

  • Not good at turning
  • May rip if pulled hard enough
  • Roll rate is average without New Boosters
  • Engine overheating

History

In early 1944, Alexander Kartveli, the chief designer for the Republic Aviation Aircraft Company set out to work on a replacement for the piston-powered P-47 Thunderbolt which instead would be powered by a turbojet. All attempts at trying to use the P-47 frame to accommodate a turbojet failed and Kartveli resorted to designing a brand new aircraft around an axial compressor turbojet engine. Due to the nature of the engine taking up a large majority of the fuselage, fuel tanks were designed to be in the wings of the aircraft, however, the body was streamlined to make the smallest profile possible and retain all necessary critical components.

The USAAF in September 1944 released new requirements for a daytime fighter along with specific characteristics such as the top speed of 600 mph (966 kph), armament of six 21.7mm machine guns or four 15.2 mm machine guns along with housing a General Electric TG-180 axial turbojet also known as the Allison J35 series turbojet engine. Republic proposed their new aircraft and on paper proposed it would be superior to Lockheed’s P-80 Shooting Star. The USAAF noting Republic’s already proven experience with single-seat fighters proposed a contract without holding any competition. These initial order fighters were listed as YP-84As and P-84Bs.

These early test aircraft were put to wind tunnel testing and it was found that major flaws developed when subjected to high speeds, notably longitudinal instability in the aircraft’s frame and stabilizer skin buckling at high speeds. Also noted was issues with the weight of the aircraft and the problem with early turbojets not producing enough thrust for takeoff and climb outs (a problem which plagued the F-84B aircraft until more robust engines were outfitted). Early J35-GE-7 engines were replaced with J35-A-15 versions which helped with the thrust ratio, however wing-tip fuel tanks were added to the mix prior to proper testing and issues developed which at one point grounded the fleet of aircraft until modifications were made.

In 1947, the USAF changed the pursuit designation of the aircraft to fighter and thus the P-84 became the F-84. The YP-84A and the F-84B only differed when it came to the type of M3 machine guns they carried, as the F-84B had faster-firing machine guns than the YP-84A. Early successes of the F-84B were overshadowed by problem after problem including a speed restriction limiting flight to no more than Mach 0.8 as any faster and the aircraft experienced control reversal where the pilot would input normal commands with the control stick and the opposite manoeuvre would occur (for instance if the pilot pulled back on the control stick to make the aircraft climb, the aircraft would actually begin to dive and vice versa). Even with the speed restrictions, the entire fleet of F-84B fighters was grounded by 1948 due to parts shortages and structural failures. It was also at this time that the F-84C aircraft were also determined to be incapable of performing any of their mission parameters, however since the F-84D was already under production (with all of the B and C variants issues being resolved), the program continued. Funding was allocated to upgrade the B and C variants, however, both were finally withdrawn from active duty service by the end of 1952.

Testing of the F-84D determined that the wings needed to be covered with a thicker aluminium skin to strengthen them which was helpful because the engine was upgraded to the more powerful J35-A-17D. Here it was found that during high-G manoeuvres, the wingtip fuel tanks led to the structural failure of the wings due to twisting motions. A simple fix of adding a small triangular fin to the external portion of the fuel tank alleviated that problem. Despite the fixes introduced with the D variant, it too was withdrawn from active duty in 1952. The F-84E variant fighter saw modifications specifically with strengthened wings and a larger cockpit which was necessary to equip advanced avionics to include an A-1C gunsight which worked with an APG-30 radar. Folding rocket racks were also developed so that once the HVAR rockets were fired; the racks would fold flush with the wing increasing the aircraft’s overall aerodynamics. Unfortunately even with all of the modifications, failure of the aircraft hinged upon the Allison J35-A-17 engines which were only designed to be flown for 25 hours a month and would receive a complete overhaul after 100 hours of flight. Due to the number of sorties flown in the Korean War, engine overhauls were taking place more frequently and quickly exhausted all of the spare parts and new engines produced.

The final variant of F-84 introduced was the G variant which began service in 1951. Utilised for the next nine years, the F-84G had new innovations which became standard on future aircraft to include, a refuelling boom mounted on the left-wing for in-flight refuelling, instrument landing system to allow for landing during inclement weather, a J35-A-29 engine, an autopilot system and the first fighter with the ability to carry a single Mark 7 nuclear bomb. The F-84G was retired from US service in 1960, however, countries such as Portugal continued to use this fighter through 1974 and were flown out of Angola. The F-84 had a rocky start into the foray of turbine jet fighters, however, challenges and difficulties paved the way for the F-100 Super Sabre and the RF-101 Voodoo as their replacements.

At least 13 other countries bought into the F-84 program including France which purchased 335 F-84G fighters and operated them from 1952 to 1956.

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