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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.39]]. The plane was redesignated from the P-80A-5 to the F-80A-5 in [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.39]]. The plane was redesignated from the P-80A-5 to the F-80A-5 in [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]].
  
The main purpose of the F-80 is to teach a pilot how to fly jets in general. If a pilot is doing well (read: has even or close to even k/d) in the F-80, he's ready to move to higher tiered jets. Never give up your speed: it is the plane's insurance. Only trade it for altitude in zoom climbs!
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The main purpose of the F-80 is to teach a pilot how to fly jets in general. If a pilot is doing well (read: has even or close to even k/d) in the F-80, he's ready to move to higher tiered jets. Never give up your speed: it is the plane's insurance. Only trade it for the altitude in zoom climbs!
  
 
Be careful that the jet is up-tiered quite a lot. When this happens, strictly adhere to the rules set forth in this article or you will be at a great disadvantage.
 
Be careful that the jet is up-tiered quite a lot. When this happens, strictly adhere to the rules set forth in this article or you will be at a great disadvantage.
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* 10 mm Steel - Fore cockpit armor
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* 10 mm Steel - Fore cockpit armour
 
* 12.7 mm Steel - Behind pilot's seat
 
* 12.7 mm Steel - Behind pilot's seat
 
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass
 
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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This plane must be flown strictly as Boom and Zoom, or Boom and Run. Anything else does not work due the aircraft's awful acceleration.
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This plane must be flown strictly as Boom and Zoom, or Boom and Run. Anything else does not work due to the aircraft's awful acceleration.
 
For ground strike, the F-80 is a very good aircraft because of the M2 Brownings mounted in the nose, making it even easier to destroy AAA, light pillboxes and such.
 
For ground strike, the F-80 is a very good aircraft because of the M2 Brownings mounted in the nose, making it even easier to destroy AAA, light pillboxes and such.
  
 
At the beginning of the match, the P-80 needs to climb away from the potential combat zone.
 
At the beginning of the match, the P-80 needs to climb away from the potential combat zone.
  
An altitude of around 3500 m (about 11,500 ft) is sufficient. Then it might head into the battle, after it gained its top speed of around 800 TAS / 700 IAS, both kph, or around 500 TAS / 435 IAS if you use miles.
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An altitude of around 3500 m (about 11,500 ft) is sufficient. Then it might head into the battle after it gained its top speed of around 800 TAS / 700 IAS, both kph, or around 500 TAS / 435 IAS if you use miles.
  
 
As of 1.73, the F-80 is frequently up-tiered to face off against superior Axis jets in 7.7 and 8.0. Since most of these jets can outrun, out-climb and out-accelerate the F-80, the only way to succeed is to keep your altitude extremely high and to maintain energy discipline. This means no hard turns and not letting the jet slow down too much. The Axis jets can potentially outrun the F-80 even with a 2000 m altitude disadvantage.
 
As of 1.73, the F-80 is frequently up-tiered to face off against superior Axis jets in 7.7 and 8.0. Since most of these jets can outrun, out-climb and out-accelerate the F-80, the only way to succeed is to keep your altitude extremely high and to maintain energy discipline. This means no hard turns and not letting the jet slow down too much. The Axis jets can potentially outrun the F-80 even with a 2000 m altitude disadvantage.
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As with most M2 armed aircraft, the default belts are sub par, so ''Offensive 12 mm'' should be focused on first. Due to early jet's bad acceleration, unlocking ''Compressor'' and ''Engine'' afterwards are crucial. To help F-80's not the best maneuverability, ''New boosters'' and then ''Wings repair'' are recommended to fix this problem. Afterwards the ''G-Suit'' upgrade will come in handy. ''Fuselage repair'' and ''Cover'' are not really useful and can be ignored until the very end.
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As with most M2 armed aircraft, the default belts are sub-par, so ''Offensive 12 mm'' should be focused on first. Due to early jet's bad acceleration, unlocking ''Compressor'' and ''Engine'' afterwards are crucial. To help F-80's not the best manoeuvrability, ''New boosters'' and then ''Wings repair'' are recommended to fix this problem. Afterwards, the ''G-Suit'' upgrade will come in handy. ''Fuselage repair'' and ''Cover'' are not really useful and can be ignored until the very end.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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* High dive top speed
 
* High dive top speed
 
* All weapons in the nose
 
* All weapons in the nose
* Due to M2's lower RoF, pilot can spray longer and have less trigger discipline
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* Due to M2's lower rate of fire, the pilot can spray longer and have less trigger discipline
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* M2 Brownings are insufficient for high-speed combat due to low rate of fire and limited damage output
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* M2 Brownings are insufficient for high-speed combat due to a low rate of fire and limited damage output
 
* Poor acceleration performance
 
* Poor acceleration performance
* Looses a lot of speed in turns
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* Loses a lot of speed in turns
 
* Small rate of climb
 
* Small rate of climb
* No WEP in RB
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* No WEP in realistic battle
* Only a 105% Increase in throttle in AB
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* Only a 105% Increase in throttle in an arcade battle
 
* Frequently up-tiered to battle vastly superior Axis jets like the G.91
 
* Frequently up-tiered to battle vastly superior Axis jets like the G.91
 
* Four large fuel tanks on each wing.
 
* Four large fuel tanks on each wing.
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== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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=== In-game description ===
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"An all-metal, single-seat fighter-bomber with one turbojet engine. The aircraft was created by a group of Lockheed engineers (headed by Clarence ""Kelly"" Johnson) in only 143 days.
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The first flight of the XP-80 prototype was performed in January 1944. The first production version, designated the P-80A Shooting Star, entered service in 1946. The P-80 became the first combat-capable jet aircraft to enter service with the USAAF.
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1947 saw the appearance of the next production version of the aircraft, the P-80B. The ninth production P-80A-1 was converted to a new prototype, designated the XP-80B. It had an Allison J33-A-17 turbojet engine producing 1,816 kg of thrust, equipped with a methanol-water injection system. The airfoil was thinner, but the skin's thickness was increased. To install a water mixture tank, the plane's fuel quantity had to be sacrificed by reducing it from 1,781 to 1,610 liters The aircraft also received a Lockheed-designed ejection seat and a cockpit air-conditioning system.
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The plane's armament consisted of six 12.7 mm Colt-Browning M3 machine guns with 300 rounds each in the forward fuselage. One 1,000 lb (454 kg) bomb or ten 5-inch (127 mm) unguided HVAR missiles could be suspended under each wing panel.
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A total of 240 P-80B fighter-bombers were built from March 1947 to March 1948, including P-80B-1s and 31 P-80B-5s. The В-5 variant was intended to be operated in Arctic conditions; its heated canopy prevented icing. In addition, special types of oil and special rubber were used to operate the aircraft in low temperature conditions.
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At least five P-80Bs were equipped with a guidance system for Bell GAM-63 RASCAL air-to-surface missiles. Externally, these aircraft differed in the shape of the forward fuselage and the wing-mounted tanks. Also, they were fitted with extra spoilers on the upper and lower wing surfaces.
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In June 1948, when the US military aircraft designation system was changed, the P-80B was renamed to the F-80B.
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When the Korean War started, F-80Bs were stationed in the USA and in Europe, being used by the USAAF mainly for training purposes. Later, 117 F-80Bs were brought up to the F-80C's standards and re-designated ""F-80C-12."" The remaining F-80Bs were withdrawn from service by the end of 1951."
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==

Latest revision as of 17:27, 14 May 2019

F-80A-5 Shooting Star
f-80a.png
Cockpit
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
7.0/7.0/6.7BR
1 personCrew
4.0 tEmpty weight
6.5 tTake-off weight
Flight characteristics
12 500 mCeiling
sec23.0/23.0/0.0Turn Time
km/hStalling speed
Allison J33-A-17Engine
JetType
airCooling system
Speed of destruction
990 km/hStructural
380 km/hGear
Offensive armament
6 х 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gunWeapon 1
1 800 roundsAmmunition
768 shots/minFire rate
Suspended armament
8 х HVAR rocketsSetup 1
2 х 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bombSetup 2
Economy
86 000 Rp icon.pngResearch
350 000 Sl icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png11 150 / 14 918/11 550 / 15 453/3 790 / 5 071Repair
100 000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
350 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
1 500 Ge icon.pngAces
x 1.90 Rp icon.pngReward for battle
This page is about the aircraft F-80A-5. For the other version, see F-80C-10.

Description

GarageImage F-80A-5.jpg


The F-80A-5 Shooting Star is a rank V American jet fighter with a battle rating of 6.7 (AB) and 7.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.39. The plane was redesignated from the P-80A-5 to the F-80A-5 in Update 1.79 "Project X".

The main purpose of the F-80 is to teach a pilot how to fly jets in general. If a pilot is doing well (read: has even or close to even k/d) in the F-80, he's ready to move to higher tiered jets. Never give up your speed: it is the plane's insurance. Only trade it for the altitude in zoom climbs!

Be careful that the jet is up-tiered quite a lot. When this happens, strictly adhere to the rules set forth in this article or you will be at a great disadvantage.

One thing to take note of is the M2 Brownings. Sadly, they are insufficient for high-speed combat due to the low rate of fire and subsequently limited damage output. This issue is later on fixed with the M3 Browning on the successor F-80C Shooting star, but the ammunition load still remains low, like on the P-51D. As for piston planes: they are capable of setting enemy piston planes on fire in a short burst. All of the guns are mounted in the nose, making them deadly accurate when performing head-ons, especially once the "new 12 mm MGs" modification is installed. For ground attack, there is the usual complement of an ordinance for the USAF: HVAR rockets and standard 1000 lb bombs.

General info

Flight Performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
854 829 12,500 24.3 24.8 19.1 18.0 950
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
899 882 12,500 21.9 23.0 28.5 23.6 950

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flap
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
990 380 560 ~16 ~8
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 482 < 600 < 640 > 250
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 96% Engine power 100% Engine power
0 m 1666 kgf 1,720 kgf

Survivability and armour

  • 10 mm Steel - Fore cockpit armour
  • 12.7 mm Steel - Behind pilot's seat
  • 38 mm Bulletproof glass

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: Browning M2 (12.7 mm)

The F-80A-5 is armed with:

  • 6 × 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 1800 total)

Suspended armament

Main articles: AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb), HVAR

The F-80A-5 can be outfitted with the following ordinance:

  • Without load
  • 8 × 127 mm HVAR rockets
  • 2 × 1000 lb (454 kg) AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)

Usage in battles

This plane must be flown strictly as Boom and Zoom, or Boom and Run. Anything else does not work due to the aircraft's awful acceleration. For ground strike, the F-80 is a very good aircraft because of the M2 Brownings mounted in the nose, making it even easier to destroy AAA, light pillboxes and such.

At the beginning of the match, the P-80 needs to climb away from the potential combat zone.

An altitude of around 3500 m (about 11,500 ft) is sufficient. Then it might head into the battle after it gained its top speed of around 800 TAS / 700 IAS, both kph, or around 500 TAS / 435 IAS if you use miles.

As of 1.73, the F-80 is frequently up-tiered to face off against superior Axis jets in 7.7 and 8.0. Since most of these jets can outrun, out-climb and out-accelerate the F-80, the only way to succeed is to keep your altitude extremely high and to maintain energy discipline. This means no hard turns and not letting the jet slow down too much. The Axis jets can potentially outrun the F-80 even with a 2000 m altitude disadvantage.

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Compressor Offensive 12 mm
II New Boosters Airframe FRC mk.2
III Wings Repair Engine New 12 mm MGs
IV G-Suit Cover FLBC mk.1

As with most M2 armed aircraft, the default belts are sub-par, so Offensive 12 mm should be focused on first. Due to early jet's bad acceleration, unlocking Compressor and Engine afterwards are crucial. To help F-80's not the best manoeuvrability, New boosters and then Wings repair are recommended to fix this problem. Afterwards, the G-Suit upgrade will come in handy. Fuselage repair and Cover are not really useful and can be ignored until the very end.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good energy retention compared to piston planes
  • Great zoom climb compared to piston planes
  • Faster than any piston plane
  • High dive top speed
  • All weapons in the nose
  • Due to M2's lower rate of fire, the pilot can spray longer and have less trigger discipline

Cons:

  • M2 Brownings are insufficient for high-speed combat due to a low rate of fire and limited damage output
  • Poor acceleration performance
  • Loses a lot of speed in turns
  • Small rate of climb
  • No WEP in realistic battle
  • Only a 105% Increase in throttle in an arcade battle
  • Frequently up-tiered to battle vastly superior Axis jets like the G.91
  • Four large fuel tanks on each wing.

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === Encyclopedia Info ===, also if applicable).

In-game description

"An all-metal, single-seat fighter-bomber with one turbojet engine. The aircraft was created by a group of Lockheed engineers (headed by Clarence ""Kelly"" Johnson) in only 143 days.

The first flight of the XP-80 prototype was performed in January 1944. The first production version, designated the P-80A Shooting Star, entered service in 1946. The P-80 became the first combat-capable jet aircraft to enter service with the USAAF.

1947 saw the appearance of the next production version of the aircraft, the P-80B. The ninth production P-80A-1 was converted to a new prototype, designated the XP-80B. It had an Allison J33-A-17 turbojet engine producing 1,816 kg of thrust, equipped with a methanol-water injection system. The airfoil was thinner, but the skin's thickness was increased. To install a water mixture tank, the plane's fuel quantity had to be sacrificed by reducing it from 1,781 to 1,610 liters The aircraft also received a Lockheed-designed ejection seat and a cockpit air-conditioning system.

The plane's armament consisted of six 12.7 mm Colt-Browning M3 machine guns with 300 rounds each in the forward fuselage. One 1,000 lb (454 kg) bomb or ten 5-inch (127 mm) unguided HVAR missiles could be suspended under each wing panel.

A total of 240 P-80B fighter-bombers were built from March 1947 to March 1948, including P-80B-1s and 31 P-80B-5s. The В-5 variant was intended to be operated in Arctic conditions; its heated canopy prevented icing. In addition, special types of oil and special rubber were used to operate the aircraft in low temperature conditions.

At least five P-80Bs were equipped with a guidance system for Bell GAM-63 RASCAL air-to-surface missiles. Externally, these aircraft differed in the shape of the forward fuselage and the wing-mounted tanks. Also, they were fitted with extra spoilers on the upper and lower wing surfaces.

In June 1948, when the US military aircraft designation system was changed, the P-80B was renamed to the F-80B.

When the Korean War started, F-80Bs were stationed in the USA and in Europe, being used by the USAAF mainly for training purposes. Later, 117 F-80Bs were brought up to the F-80C's standards and re-designated ""F-80C-12."" The remaining F-80Bs were withdrawn from service by the end of 1951."

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

External links

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  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
  • other literature.


USA jet aircraft
F-4  F-4C Phantom II
F-80  F-80A-5 Shooting Star · F-80C-10 Shooting Star
F-84  F-84B-26 Thunderjet · F-84G-21-RE
F-86  F-86A-5 Sabre · F-86F-25 Sabre · F-86F-2 Sabre · F-86F-35 Sabre
F-89  F-89B · F-89D
F9F  F9F-2 Panther · F9F-5 Panther · F9F-8 Cougar
Other  P-59A · F3D-1 · F2H-2 Banshee · FJ-4B · FJ-4B VMF-232 · F-100D
B-57  B-57A Canberra · B-57B Canberra