F-104G (Italy)

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▄F-104G
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GarageImage F-104G (Italy).jpg
▄F-104G
AB RB SB
10.3 10.3 10.0
Research:220 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:590 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

The ▄F-104G Starfighter is a rank VI Italian jet fighter with a battle rating of 10.3 (AB/RB) and 10.0 (SB). It was introduced in Update "Direct Hit".

General info

Flight performance

Arrestor gear
Accelerates braking by grabbing the brake cable on the deck of the aircraft carrier
Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 15 240 m2 387 km/h
Turn time34 s
Max altitude16 000 m
EngineGeneral Electric J79-GE-11
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight24 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 15,240 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 2,341 2,315 16000 34.5 35.1 230.3 222.2 850
Upgraded 2,433 2,387 33.5 34.0 292.1 260.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1527 546 N/A 827 444 ~12 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 720 < 950 < 800 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
General Electric J79-GE-11 1 6,552 kg 532 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 35m fuel
1,615 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 7,344 kg 8,057 kg 8,809 kg 9,194 kg 24,000 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 35m fuel MTOW
Stationary 4,128 kgf 6,357 kgf 0.87 0.79 0.72 0.69 0.26
Optimal 4,128 kgf
(0 km/h)
8,391 kgf
(1,200 km/h)
1.14 1.04 0.95 0.91 0.35

Survivability and armour

Flares/Chaff
Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar
Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural1 527 km/h
Gear546 km/h

The F-104G has no armour; be it in the form of armour plates or armoured glass. Fuel tanks are self-sealing, which is pretty much a standard feature at this rank. The F-104G also has access to countermeasures as a tier I modification (unlike Chinese F-104G) and Radar Warning Receiver as a tier IV modification. 

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB5 110 → 7 772 Sl icon.png
RB8 670 → 13 187 Sl icon.png
SB24 810 → 37 736 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications198 800 Rp icon.png
314 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 600 Ge icon.png
Crew training170 000 Sl icon.png
Experts590 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 400 Ge icon.png
Research Aces950 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
110 / 280 / 190 % Sl icon.png
220 / 220 / 220 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
260 Ge icon.png
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
420 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
25 000 Sl icon.png
610 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
260 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
420 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
25 000 Sl icon.png
610 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
M60_belt_pack
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
260 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk82
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
260 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
LAU-3/A
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
260 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods heli false thermal targets.png
Flares/Chaff
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
260 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
M117
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
420 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods air to air missile.png
AIM-9B
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
420 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods weapon.png
M60_new_gun
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk83
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
LAU-10/A
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk84
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
25 000 Sl icon.png
610 Ge icon.png
Mods air to air missile.png
AIM-9J
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
25 000 Sl icon.png
610 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns) CCIP (Rockets) CCIP (Bombs) CCRP (Bombs)
Icon GreenCheckmark.png Icon GreenCheckmark.png Icon GreenCheckmark.png Icon RedXCross.png

Offensive armament

Ammunition725 rounds
Fire rate6 000 shots/min
Main article: M61A1 (20 mm)

The F-104G (Italy) is armed with:

  • A choice between two presets:
    • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon, chin-mounted (725 rpg)
    • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon, chin-mounted (750 rpg) + 60 x countermeasures

Suspended armament

List of setups (22)
Setup 12 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
Setup 23 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb
Setup 33 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb
Setup 43 x 1000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb
Setup 51 x 2000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb
Setup 638 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
Setup 78 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
Setup 82 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
3 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb
Setup 92 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
3 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb
Setup 102 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
3 x 1000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb
Setup 112 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
1 x 2000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb
Setup 122 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
2 x 1000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb
1 x 2000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb
Setup 132 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
38 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
Setup 142 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
8 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
Setup 152 x AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
Setup 162 x AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
3 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb
Setup 172 x AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
3 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb
Setup 182 x AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
3 x 1000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb
Setup 192 x AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
1 x 2000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb
Setup 202 x AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
2 x 1000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb
1 x 2000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb
Setup 212 x AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
38 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
Setup 222 x AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
8 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets

The F-104G (Italy) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 3 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (2,250 lb total)
  • 3 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (1,500 lb total)
  • 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (3,000 lb total)
  • 1 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb (2,000 lb total)
  • 38 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 8 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 3 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (2,250 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 3 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (1,500 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (3,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb + 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 38 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 8 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
  • 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles + 3 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (2,250 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles + 3 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (1,500 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles + 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (3,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb + 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles + 38 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles + 8 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets

Usage in battles

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good top speed.
  • Great rate of climb; even the F-4 Phantom may struggle to match it.
  • Decent high-speed manoeuvrability.
  • Good roll rate for a plane with tiny wings.
  • M61 Vulcan cannon can do some serious damage to an enemy plane.
  • Wide selection of secondary ordnance; much better than early F-104s.
  • High thrust to weight ratio.

Cons:

  • Lousy low-speed manoeuvrability.
  • Bleeds energy quickly in sustained turn-fights.
  • Large turning radius due to small wing surface and high speed.
  • High takeoff and landing speeds.
  • Mediocre IR missiles compared to competitors.

History

The story of the Italian F104-G originally began in America, on February of 1954 at the Lockheed facilities in America the first 2 prototypes of the F104 would take flight for the first time. America was looking to develop a new aircraft in 1952 to combat the Soviet's new age of supersonic jet fighters. The aircraft would incorporate the smallest air-frame, combined with the most technologically advanced turbojet at the time, to create the base of what would become the F-104. Although the program would have some minor setbacks, such as the proper intended engine for it not being available during the beginning, development would continue and would lead to the first variant of the F104, the F104-A. From the base variant of the F-104 many variants would begin to be developed, such as the F104-C, the F-104-S and in this case, the F-104-G. The main differences of the G variant compared to the others would be a reinforced air-frame, larger vertical stabilizer, updated turbofans, and improved electronics. Due to these changes, the F104-G would be known as the "definitive" variant of the Starfighter. The G would first take flight on October of 1960, it would initially be built for the German Luftwaffe as at the time they were looking for an a fast aircraft which would be able to deliver nuclear payloads, however that didn't stop it from generating enough interest to be exported and licence produced in many countries, such as in Italy. The aircraft's licensing was handled by multiple manufacturers, notably Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm (MBB), FIAT Aviazione, Fokker, and Sociétés Anonyme Belge de Constructions Aéronautiques (SABCA). The first aircraft (MM 6501) was delivered to Italy on March 3rd of 1961, in America. The first would be built by Lockheed, however after being transferred to Italy it was dismantled and used as a model for the construction under license of the 105 units ordered by AMI. Aeritalia ended up producing a total 230 Starfighters in different versions, of which 124 would be made for the Italian Air Force. The F-104-G in Italian service was mainly used as an all-weather interceptor armed with AIM-9B Sidewinder infrared guided air-to-air missiles. Other departments instead used the F-104G as a conventional or strike fighter-bomber. The F-104-G would eventually be replaced in these roles by the “Tornado IDS”, the F-104-Gs were concentrated at the 3rd Aerobrigata (later 3rd Stormo) which already used the RF-104G reconnaissance variant. Just about a core of F/RF-104G of the 3rd Wing took part in the 1991 Gulf War, operating from the Turkish base of Incirlik. Most of the F-104-G's would be turned into static displays or kept inside museums, for example one resides in Vigna di Valle Airforce museum, this one was the first entirely Italian-built F-104 G which first flew on the 5th October of 1962.

Media

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See also

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Fiat Aviation (Fiat Aviazione)
Attacker  F.C.20 Bis
Fighters  CR.32 · CR.32 bis · CR.32 quater
  CR.42 · Marcolin's C.R.42 CN
  G.50 serie 2 · G.50 AS serie 7
  G.55 sottoserie 0 · G.55 serie 1 · G.55S
  G.56
Jet fighters  G.91 pre-serie · G.91 R/1 · G.91 YS
  ▄F-86K*
  ▄F-104G* · F-104S*
Bombers  B.R.20DR · B.R.20M M1
Export  J11
  ▀G.91 R/3 · ▀G.91 R/4 · G.91 R/4
Captured  ▀CR.42 · ▀Marcolin's C.R.42 CN · ▀G.50 serie 2 · ▀G.50 AS serie 7
  *Licensed
See also  North American Aviation · Lockheed Martin

Italy jet aircraft
Aefer  Sagittario 2
Fiat  G.91 pre-serie · G.91 R/1 · G.91 R/4 · G.91 YS
Foreign  ▄F-84F · ▄F-84G-21-RE · CL-13 Mk.4 · ▄F-86K · ▄F-104G · F-104S
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