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{{Specs-Card|code=f-104g_china}}
 
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{{About
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| usage = other versions
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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! Stock
 
! Stock
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|2,343||2,317|| rowspan="2" |{{Specs|ceiling}}||34.5||35.1||230.5||222.5|| rowspan="2" | 850
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || ___ || ___ || ___ || ~__ || ~__
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} ||2,350||833||444|| ~13 || ~5
 
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
 
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
 
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|< 720||< 950||< 800 || N/A
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==== Engine performance ====
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! colspan="3" | Engine
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! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
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! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic Mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
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| colspan="2" | General Electric J79-GE-11 || 1
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| colspan="2" | 6,552 kg || colspan="3" | 532 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
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! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
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! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br/>Weight
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! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
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! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 33m fuel
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| 1,540 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
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| 7,353 kg || 8,153 kg || 8,954 kg || 9,194 kg || 24,000 kg
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
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! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
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! Condition || 100% || WEP
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! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 33m fuel || MTOW
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| ''Stationary'' || 4,128 kgf || 6,357 kgf
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| 0.86 || 0.78 || 0.71 || 0.69 || 0.26
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| ''Optimal'' || 4,128 kgf<br/>(0 km/h) || 8,391 kgf<br/>(1,200 km/h)
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| 1.14 || 1.03 || 0.94 || 0.91 || 0.35
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
<!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
 
<!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''
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The F-104G is not equipped with any armour plating, and is therefore rather vulnerable to enemy fire, especially given the fact that most enemies at this rank sport high-calibre cannons. Since the plane's wings are so small, any damage to them at all drastically reduces stability and manoeuvrability, and may result in a crash. All of the vehicle's fuel tanks are centrally located, so fuel fires are unlikely to occur. However, the engine is very large, so it is very likely that it will sustain heavy damage if the vehicle is fired upon.
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
<!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 
<!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
{{main|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|AGM-12B Bullpup|AIM-9B Sidewinder|AIM-9J Sidewinder|Hydra-70 M247}}
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{{main|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)}}
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{{main|AGM-12B Bullpup|AIM-9B Sidewinder|AIM-9J Sidewinder|Hydra-70 M247}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
 
''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
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The F-104S does one thing extremely well: speed. This is the vehicle's greatest advantage, and can be used to great effect if the pilot is careful about choosing which engagements to pursue. It is recommended to keep up a high air-speed at all times, which will allow the F-104S to swoop in and out of the combat zone while evading enemies. Sometimes, it is even possible to outrun enemy air-to-air missiles.
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However, the F-104S struggles with manoeuvrability. With such small wings, it simply can't produce the lift necessary to throw itself around the sky, and therefore has a very poor turning circle. This means that any turning engagement is most likely futile, and also reemphasizes the utility of a boom and zoom playstyle.  Note that the use of flaps can significantly improve turning performance, even at high speeds.
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This vehicle is equipped with [[AIM-9J]] air-to-air missiles, which are some of the best in the game.  With the ability to mount four of them, this vehicle has the potential to do great damage to enemy targets.  The F-104G can also equip a wide variety of bombs and rockets, which make it well-suited for a ground-attack role.
  
 
=== Modules ===
 
=== Modules ===
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! Flight performance
 
! Flight performance
 
! Survivability
 
! Survivability
! colspan="2" | Weaponry
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! colspan="4" | Weaponry
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!
 
 
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| I
 
| I
 
|Compressor
 
|Compressor
 
|Fuselage repair
 
|Fuselage repair
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|Offensive 20 mm
 
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|Mk82
 
|Mk82
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|Wings repair
 
|Wings repair
 
|G-suit
 
|G-suit
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|New 20 mm cannons
 
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|Mk83
 
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|Cover
 
|Cover
 
|RWR
 
|RWR
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|AGM-12B Bullpup
Bullpup
 
 
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|AIM-9J
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Very high speed compared to its peers
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* Highly effective air-to-air missiles
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* Above-average rate of climb
  
 
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Very poor manoeuvrability
  
 
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* ''other literature.''
 
* ''other literature.''
  
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{{AirManufacturer Lockheed}}
 
{{China jet aircraft}}
 
{{China jet aircraft}}

Latest revision as of 18:37, 28 June 2020

RANK 5 SWEDEN
SAAB J-29D PACK
␗F-104G Starfighter
f-104g_china.png
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
10.0/10.0/10.0BR
1 personCrew
24.0 tTake-off weight
13.17 kg/sBurst mass
Flight characteristics
16 000 mCeiling
General Electric J79-GE-11Engine
JetType
airCooling system
Speed of destruction
1527 km/hStructural
546 km/hGear
Offensive armament
20 mm M61A1 cannonWeapon 1
750 roundsAmmunition
6 000 shots/minFire rate
Suspended armament
14 x 70 mm Hydra-70 M247 rocketSetup 1
2 x AGM-12B Bullpup rocketsSetup 2
4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missilesSetup 3
4 x AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missilesSetup 4
2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
14 x 70 mm Hydra-70 M247 rocket
Setup 5
2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
14 x 70 mm Hydra-70 M247 rocket
Setup 6
2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
2 x AGM-12B Bullpup rockets
Setup 7
2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
2 x AGM-12B Bullpup rockets
Setup 8
3 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombSetup 9
3 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombSetup 10
3 x 1000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombSetup 11
2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
1 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb
Setup 12
2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
1 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb
Setup 13
2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
1 x 1000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb
Setup 14
2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
1 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb
Setup 15
2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
1 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb
Setup 16
2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
1 x 1000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb
Setup 17
Economy
390 000 Rp icon.pngResearch
1 020 000 Sl icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png17 020 / 24 985/4 240 / 6 224/1 680 / 2 466Repair
290 000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
1 020 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
2 800 Ge icon.pngAces
232 % Rp icon.pngReward for battle
530 % Sl icon.png250 % Sl icon.png140 % Sl icon.png
This page is about the jet fighter F-104G (China). For other versions, see F-104 (Family).

Description

GarageImage F-104G (China).jpg


The ␗F-104G Starfighter is a rank VI Chinese jet fighter with a battle rating of 10.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Starfighters".

General info

Flight performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 15,240 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 2,343 2,317 16 000 34.5 35.1 230.5 222.5 850
Upgraded ___ ___ __._ __._ __._ __._

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1527 546 2,350 833 444 ~13 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 720 < 950 < 800  N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic Mass Wing loading (full fuel)
General Electric J79-GE-11 1 6,552 kg 532 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 33m fuel
1,540 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 7,353 kg 8,153 kg 8,954 kg 9,194 kg 24,000 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 33m fuel MTOW
Stationary 4,128 kgf 6,357 kgf 0.86 0.78 0.71 0.69 0.26
Optimal 4,128 kgf
(0 km/h)
8,391 kgf
(1,200 km/h)
1.14 1.03 0.94 0.91 0.35

Survivability and armour

The F-104G is not equipped with any armour plating, and is therefore rather vulnerable to enemy fire, especially given the fact that most enemies at this rank sport high-calibre cannons. Since the plane's wings are so small, any damage to them at all drastically reduces stability and manoeuvrability, and may result in a crash. All of the vehicle's fuel tanks are centrally located, so fuel fires are unlikely to occur. However, the engine is very large, so it is very likely that it will sustain heavy damage if the vehicle is fired upon.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: M61A1 (20 mm)

The F-104G (China) is armed with:

  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon, -mounted (750 rpg)

Suspended armament

The F-104G (China) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 14 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets
  • 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles
  • 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 4 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 14 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets
  • 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles + 14 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets
  • 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles
  • 3 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (1,500 lb total)
  • 3 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (2,250 lb total)
  • 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (3,000 lb total)
  • 1 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (500 lb total)
  • 1 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (750 lb total)
  • 1 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (1,000 lb total)
  • 1 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb + 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles (500 lb total)
  • 1 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb + 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles (750 lb total)
  • 1 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb + 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles (1,000 lb total)

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

The F-104S does one thing extremely well: speed. This is the vehicle's greatest advantage, and can be used to great effect if the pilot is careful about choosing which engagements to pursue. It is recommended to keep up a high air-speed at all times, which will allow the F-104S to swoop in and out of the combat zone while evading enemies. Sometimes, it is even possible to outrun enemy air-to-air missiles.

However, the F-104S struggles with manoeuvrability. With such small wings, it simply can't produce the lift necessary to throw itself around the sky, and therefore has a very poor turning circle. This means that any turning engagement is most likely futile, and also reemphasizes the utility of a boom and zoom playstyle. Note that the use of flaps can significantly improve turning performance, even at high speeds.

This vehicle is equipped with AIM-9J air-to-air missiles, which are some of the best in the game. With the ability to mount four of them, this vehicle has the potential to do great damage to enemy targets. The F-104G can also equip a wide variety of bombs and rockets, which make it well-suited for a ground-attack role.

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Compressor Fuselage repair Offensive 20 mm Mk82
II New boosters Airframe LAU-32 M117 AIM-9B
III Wings repair G-suit New 20 mm cannons Mk83
IV Engine Cover RWR AGM-12B Bullpup AIM-9J

Pros and cons

Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".

Pros:

  • Very high speed compared to its peers
  • Highly effective air-to-air missiles
  • Above-average rate of climb

Cons:

  • Very poor manoeuvrability

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
  • other literature.


Lockheed Corporation
Fighters  XP-38G · P-38E · P-38G-1 · P-38J-15 · Bong's P-38J-15 · P-38K · P-38L-5-LO
Bombers  B-34 · PV-2D
Jet Fighters  F-80A-5 · F-80C-10
  F-104A · F-104C
Export / License  A-29 · ▄Hudson Mk V
  ␗P-38L-1
  ␗F-104A · ▀F-104G · ␗F-104G · ▅F-104J · ▄F-104S
See Also  Mitsubishi Heavy Industries · Fiat Aviation

China jet aircraft
Fighters  J-2 · J-4 · Shenyang F-5 · J-6A · J-7II
Bombers  H-5
American  ␗F-84G-21-RE · ␗F-86F-30 · ␗F-86F-40 · ␗F-100A · ␗F-104A · ␗F-104G
Soviet  ␗MiG-9 · ␗MiG-9 (l)