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(I wrote something about the armor and survivability. Also I wrote something about how to play the tank. There is just one thing bottering me. The Challenger 2 has not a better engine than the challenger 1 both use the Perkins CV 12. Tranmisson is better.)
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{{Specs-Card|code=uk_challenger_II}}
 
 
{{About
 
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| about = British medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (shortened to '''CR2''') is a rank {{Specs|rank}} British medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} British medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. This tank was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]].
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
The Challenger 2 shares the same weak spot's as her predecessor. Your lower front plate is very weak and will not stop any kinetic or chemical round. This makes you vulnerable when you are playing in city maps. If an enemy tank sees you first, you're pretty much a guaranteed death. Now you won't die because of your driver getting knocked out, but the APFSDS or other KE rounds will go to the middle of your tank and hit the charged bags. This problem is not to big when playing in bigger maps with ridge lines. You can park your tank behind them so the enemy can't see and hit your LFP (lower front plate).
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Then we have a bigger weak spot on the gun mantlet compared to the Challenger 1. So if the enemy get's a lucky shot, he me shoot through your gun mantlet, killing both the gunner and the loader. It's not the same problem you got on the [[M1A1 Abrams|M1A1]]<nowiki/>where a lucky shot can kill every crew member in your turret. But still, losing your gunner and comander is pretty bad. The turret ring is quite okay. Not to much shell's are going through here so that's not to big of an deal. But still be carefull because it's not impossible to pen the turret ring. The roof top of the turret of the Challenger 2 is a big weak spot. Not because tank's can penetrate it with APFSDS but rocket's and HE/HEAT can do massive damage to your turret crew. The Russian [[T-64A (1971)|T-64A]]/[[T-64B]] and [[T-80B]]/[[T-80U]] do possess a very strong HE shell and got rockets. A well placed shot can kill every crewmember in the turret. When you encounter a helicopter, the same problem accurs but the chance of a fatal hit becomes bigger since the helicopter play can aim his rocket directly into your turret roof. The side of the Challenger 2 is also very weak. Armord fighting vehicles can penatrate your side with their 30mm rapid firing gun's. When a enemy is smart, he will shoot a APFSDS under your turret, in the middle of the tank. He will hit the charged bags and you are done for.
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This all might sound like the Challenger 2 has weak armor, but that's certainly not the case. The turret cheeks are very strong. Also your UFP (upper front plate) is way better compared to the previous Challenger 1. Both the cheecks and UFP are impenetrable for the strongest APFSDS shell in the game. The tank is good in a hull down position because people can't aim for your LFP. The tank can take a punch and the armor on the front is really good. If you learn to play it to it's strenghts and try to hide your side and your LFP the Challenger 2 is quite a beast.  
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| Hull || ___ mm || ___ mm ''Top'' <br> ___ mm ''Bottom'' || ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
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| Turret || ___ - ___ mm ''Turret front'' <br> ___ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
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| Cupola || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm
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'''Notes:''' <!-- Any additional notes which the user needs to be aware of -->
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[[File:Challenger 2 Density Visualisation.png|thumb|CR2 Frontal [[Protection Density Visualisation]]]]
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The Challenger 2 reinforces the strengths of the Challenger 1 Mk.2/Mk.3, with extremely well protected turret cheeks and better UFP protection, while suffering from similar weaknesses - a particularly weak lower front plate and negligible side protection.
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The Challenger 2 has a defined gun mantlet that is far larger in area compared to previous Challenger models. This mantlet is very weak in comparison to the rest of the turret, providing roughly 300 mm of RHAe protection, making it a glaring weakspot that easily results in the destruction of the gun breech and loss of turret crew. Additionally, the taller turret design exposes a weak frontal roof slope - while this is a somewhat small vulnerability, penetration may result in the gunner or commander's incapacitation.
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Similarly to the Challenger 1s, the driver's hatch on the Challenger 2 is a significant weakness that compromises the well protected UFP. The hatch has no composite behind it and provides at best 100 mm of RHA protection. As such, the Challenger 2 thrives in hull-down positions where minimal vulnerabilities are exposed and it can retreat into further cover if one of the few weak spots are penetrated. In situations where protective positioning is not an option, the Challenger 2 should be used conservatively and carefully, avoiding direct confrontation wherever possible.
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If direct melee confrontation with Soviet medium tanks is impossible to avoid, operator should note, that, due to design differences, Challenger 2 towers over tanks like [[T-64B]] and at point blank (almost ramming range), LFP becomes untargetable for them, while UFP and turret take such a high angle, that even upgraded APFSDS of theirs have problems penetrating them. While it's very unlikely that rank VI or VII player will be this startled, Challenger 2 can survive about two to three panic shots like this.
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If enemy was not confused by your aggression and immediately fired at driver's hatch or gun mantlet, the outcome will then be decided by amount of ammunition still stored inside of tank turret. If it was low enough, and enemy didn't account for it, then, depending on shell used, tank will lose either driver, loader, gunner or gun breech.
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During urban combat it is also important to remember, that Challenger 2 hull is very big and long, compared to small Soviet MBT it feels like a landship, and it can block entire street with just it's hull if it was immobilized, rendering your teammates unable to assist. It is also very heavy and hard to push around, so they won't be able to just move you out of the way. Keep yourself closer to walls and avoid narrow streets, if you want to be helped.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,886|rbMinHp=1,076|weight=63.6|AoAweight=1.1}}
  
The Challenger 2 is fitted with a Perkins CV12-6A V12 diesel 26.1-litre engine which produces 1,200 bhp. This gives the Challenger 2 a speed of 56 km/h (35 mph) forward. The transmission is a David Brown TN54E epicyclic transmission, with 6 gears forward and 2 gears backwards. The tank has a mass of 62.5 tons, which gives the tank a horsepower-to-ton ratio of 19.2. This means that your manoeuvrability is worse than most of the other MBT's because of the fact that most other MBT's are having a 1,500 hp engine with less mass. Also, the neutral steering of this tank exacerbates the already low mobility. You get forced into neutral steering at low speeds and because of your low hp-to-ton ratio, neutral steering is really slow.
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The {{PAGENAME}} is fitted with a similar twin turbo V12 diesel engine to the Challenger 1, producing a maximum of 1,200 horsepower. The {{PAGENAME}} can reach a maximum forward speed of 66 km/h (41 mph) in AB and 59 km/h (37 mph) in RB. The vehicle's stock performance is lacklustre, with acceleration and manoeuvrability suffering due to the {{PAGENAME}}'s 62.5 tonne total weight. However, once all upgrades are researched, the {{PAGENAME}} performs acceptably, despite being generally out-classed by competitor vehicles like the M1A2 and T-80U. The {{PAGENAME}} also utilises a fully functional neutral steering system, and even when stock the vehicle's neutral steering ability is admirable - easiest used with manual gear selection to avoid shifting during traverse. Notably, the {{PAGENAME}}'s reverse speed is quite comfortable, with the vehicle capable of up to 36 km/h (RB/SB) backwards thanks to the two reverse gears.
  
So the Challenger 2, like other British tanks beforehand, is one of the heaviest MBT that is mated with a weak engine. The stock manoeuvrability makes the tank feel a bit sluggish. However, when you research the manoeuvrability upgrades, the tank has some decent mobility and will get you from A to B quite effectively; but again, not as quickly as some other MBT's so be careful when the game starts. Don't rush to caps and take care of the flanks.
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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{{main|L30A1 (120 mm)}}
 
{{main|L30A1 (120 mm)}}
  
The main gun is a L30A1 120 mm rifled gun. The reload of this gun is 6.5 seconds, which makes this one of the best reloading rates of the MBT's. The angle of elevation allowed by the gun is 20 degrees up and 10 degrees down. The stock turret rotation of this tank is 14.3 degrees per second. However, the vertical aiming speeds are really bad. The gun is accurate and combined with the armour makes the Challenger a good sniper. Because the gun can fire and reload very quickly, enemy's can't shoot you as quickly as you can shoot them. You get the L23A1 stock APFSDS shell. This is a good shell but not special.  
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The Challenger 2's primary armament is the 120 mm L30A1 cannon. Unlike most modern MBT cannons, the L30A1 is rifled as opposed to smoothbore. This is primarily due to the British preference for HESH (High-Explosive Squash Head) ammunition availability, the design of which requires a rifled cannon for accurate fire. The rifled design has some positive attributes: it's extremely accurate with both HESH and APFSDS rounds, including at long range; however the downside is a limited selection of ammunition: the CR2 only has the L23A1 and L26 APFSDS rounds, the L31A7 HESH round and the L34 Smoke round available to it.
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The L30A1 has a base reload time of 6.5 seconds, improving to 5 seconds with an aced crew. As a result, the Challenger 2 sports the fastest reloading 120 mm cannon in-game along with the [[Type 90]]'s autoloaded 120 mm (as of the time of writing). In addition, the Challenger 2 allows the L30A1 a comfortable 10° of gun depression and a reasonable turret traverse speed.
  
The gun fires three-staged ammunition (the loader only puts in the charged bag and round, but because of the firing mechanism it's called three-staged ammunition) which means you have charged bags. This makes the tank very vulnerable against ammunition explosions. It is recommended to take 25 shells max because of the charged bags that can be detonated. When you get the L26 shell, you'll receive 77 mm extra penetration at 500 m. This means you can shoot the upper front plate of a [[Leopard 2A5]] without trouble meaning you can penetrate 2A5's more effectively.  
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The characteristics of the CR2 in combination with the L30A1 weight the vehicle towards a long-range sniping playstyle, something the vehicle generally feels very comfortable doing as it minimises the inferior mobility of the vehicle by having it stay in the back, providing long range fire support and exploiting unaware enemies.
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="6" | [[L30A1 (120 mm)|120 mm L30A1]]
 
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! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
 
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| colspan="3" | 50 || -10°/+20° || ±180° || Two-plane
 
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! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
 
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! style="width:4em" |Mode
 
! style="width:4em" |Stock
 
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
 
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| ''Arcade'' || 29.50 || _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
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! colspan="5" | [[L30A1 (120 mm)|120 mm L30A1]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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| ''Realistic'' || 18.40 || _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
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! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 
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| rowspan="2" | 50 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 29.50 || 40.85 || 47.85 || 56.60 || 58.35 || rowspan="2" | 6.50 || rowspan="2" | 5.75 || rowspan="2" | 5.30 || rowspan="2" | 5.00
 
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| 18.40 || 21.70 || 25.42 || 30.03 || 31.00
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
 
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
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| 6.50 || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
 
 
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===== Ammunition =====
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==== Ammunition ====
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
! 100m
 
! 500m
 
! 1000m
 
! 1500m
 
! 2000m
 
 
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| Shot L23A1 || APFSDS || 396 || 394 || 387 || 376 || 367 || 357
 
| Shot L23A1 || APFSDS || 396 || 394 || 387 || 376 || 367 || 357
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| Shell L31A7 || HESH || 152 || 152 || 152 || 152 || 152 || 152
 
| Shell L31A7 || HESH || 152 || 152 || 152 || 152 || 152 || 152
 
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| Shot L26 || APFSDS || 471 || 469 || 464 || 457 || 450 || 443
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| L26 || APFSDS || 471 || 469 || 464 || 457 || 450 || 443
 
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
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! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
 
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
 
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
 
 
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! 100%
 
 
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| Shot L23A1 || APFSDS || 1,535 || 3.89 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +1.5° || 75° || 78° || 80°
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| Shot L23A1 || APFSDS || 1,535 || 3.89 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
 
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| Shell L31A7 || HESH || 670 || 17.10 || 0.4 || 0.1 || 4,100 || +0° || 73° || 77° || 80°
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| Shell L31A7 || HESH || 670 || 17.1 || 0.4 || 0.1 || 6,560 || 73° || 77° || 80°
 
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| Shot L26 || APFSDS || 1,550 || 4.10 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +1.5° || 78° || 80° || 81°
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| L26 || APFSDS || 1,550 || 4.1 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
 
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! Ammunition
 
! Ammunition
! Velocity <br /> in m/s
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! Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
! ''Screen radius <br /> in m''
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! ''Screen time <br /> in s''
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! ''Screen hold time <br /> in s:''
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! ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
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! 1st<br>rack empty
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=== Machine guns ===
 
=== Machine guns ===
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{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{main|L94A1 (7.62 mm)|L37A2 (7.62 mm)}}
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{{main|L37A2 (7.62 mm)|L94A1 (7.62 mm)}}
  
The Challenger 2 possesses two 7.62 mm machine guns. One of them being the coaxial L94A1, and one roof mounted L37A2 machine gun. These machine guns are weak against aeroplanes, but can shoot down a helicopter. However, you should not use them for AA purposes as the chances of shooting down aircraft/helicopters are relatively small and you will just be giving your position away. These machine guns are also not effective against infantry fighting vehicles. The best way to use your machine guns is to spot enemies for your teammates.
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The Challenger 2 possesses one pintle-mounted 7.62 mm machine gun and one coaxial 7.62 mm machine gun. While these aren't particularly effective against aircraft, they can be used as a deterrent, and lucky shots may result in critical damage or pilot snipes. Besides anti-aircraft fire, they're useful for clearing light obstacles and the crew of open-top vehicles.
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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The Challenger 2 excels as a sniper or a support tank, and should be played as such whenever possible. As such, it's important to try to find reasonable cover, regardless of the situation, with the ideal position being hull-down, preferably with some degree of angling available to maximise the bouncing capability of the frontal turret roof section. The Challenger 2 is the slowest of the top rank MBTs - a fact which is extremely important to keep in mind when using it - and as such should never be expected to rush points or used for quick flanks.
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'''Rural Combat'''
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The CR2 is most comfortable in rural combat, where cover is generally plentiful and targets will often open themselves to fire when moving forward. This is particularly perceptible on maps such as [[Maginot Line (Ground Forces)|Maginot Line]], where, in most configurations, the main routes to capture points are open to snipers on hills throughout the landscape. In these situations the CR2 excels, able to hold a defensive position while protecting team members in faster MBTs and covering capture points.
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'''Urban Combat'''
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The Challenger 2 is less agreeable in urban situations, where proper cover is more rare and its fatal weak points are often more exposed. In some situations, such as [[Alaska]], the opportunity may arise to flank around the side roads and pick a somewhat protected position behind the ridges lining them. However, in other maps like [[American Desert]] or [[Cargo Port]] proper hull-down cover is sparse and the vehicle can only be utilised without proper protection. In situations such as this, the Challenger 2 is best played defensively holding angles and slowly pushing forward with careful attention to the local surroundings and where opposing vehicles may appear from.
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'''Notable Targets'''
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* '''[[Leopard 2A5]]:''' The 2A5 should be engaged with care: it has better overall protection than the Challenger 2, and in many situations can appear near-impossible to destroy at range. Aim for the gun mantlet with at least the intention of disabling the weapon; some rounds may make it past and knock crew out. If the frontal hull is presented, aim for the left side of the hull as usually the driver, gunner and commander are all lined up so they can be knocked out all at the same time, resulting in the Leopard's destruction.
  
The Challenger 2 should be played as a support tank. Try not to rush to cap's without knowing where the enemy is. The Challenger 2 really is not a street fighter or a rusher. The tank is designed for devensive gameplay so it should be played defensifly. When playing in city maps, try to find a spot where you can aim at enemy's but that they can't get behind you very easily. Taking an enemy to the front is the best chance you got in a knife fight. People seem to forget that the challenger 2 has a weak LFP and often try to take out your gun and gun breech. But since it's a knife fight, enemy's will screw up their shots so you may have a chance winning. Taking a shot in the side is never a good option. Try following the American's or Russian's and give them support. You won't be able to do a lot on your own. Take good care of the minimap and try to predict where the enemy will go. If you see a lot of teammembers dying, take note since the change is very big that there will be coming Leopard's 2 coming out of that direction. This all is because of the lack of mobility. The Challenger 2 is not slow, it's just not the fastes tank. The German's and Russian's will be earlyer at the cap's. Play with this thought in mind and if you need to go for a cap, try to scan the area really well before going in. In open map's, try to find a good hulldown position. Don't give the enemy a chance firing at your weak spot's. You don't want to play a fair fight. This is not a tank wich can win a game on it's own. It can do a lot more than the previous Challenger 1, but it's not able to carry games. Ofcourse every writtin here above is a opinion. The best usage in battles is find the best spot's and find your own way. But every way will be the same: defensive.  
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* '''[[Leclerc]]:''' The Leclerc is in possession of one of the few rounds capable of penetrating the Challenger 2 UFP reliably. When in combat with the Leclerc, it's important to expose as little of the CR2 as possible - if the Leclerc is able to destroy your weapon, it will often be able to use its high speed to get close enough to finish you off.
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* '''[[Ariete|C1 Ariete]]/[[Ariete PSO]]:''' The C1 Ariete and Ariete PSO with the CL1343 shell can penetrate nearly anywhere on the Challenger 2, with the exception of the outer turret cheeks (and even then, at close ranges and particular angles, it can even punch through those). As such, it's a potent sniper and should be handled with care. Fortunately, the Ariete MBTs have somewhat sub-par protection characteristics, and the Challenger 2 will often prove itself capable of quickly dispatching an Ariete at range.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
* Very accurate gun with good optics
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* Extremely accurate main cannon
* Good gun depression
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* Good gunner optics
* Fast reload rate
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* 10° of gun depression
* Strong turret cheeks and hull's upper frontal armour
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* Fast reload, particularly for a 120 mm
* More powerful engine than Challenger 1
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* Extremely good turret cheek protection
* Good reverse speed
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* Good UFP protection
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* 36 km/h reverse speed
 
* Has ESS, smoke shells and smoke grenades
 
* Has ESS, smoke shells and smoke grenades
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* Ammunition in the back of the turret is actually inert and will only slightly damage crew on destruction instead of exploding and can even be removed entirely. This makes tank less vulnerable to roof shots and tanks with super strong APFSDS, like [[Ariete]], when compared to other NATO tanks using "blowout panel" (like [[IPM1]]), which can get sniped through and destroyed in a single move.
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Ammo storage can be hit very easily, like in previous Challenger 1
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* A CR2 with an exposed hull is extremely vulnerable
* Weak frontal lower glacis
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* Negligible LFP armour
* Big weak spot near the gun breach
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* Cannon surround has negligible armour
* The upper part of the turret is vulnerable to HEAT shots
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* The frontal turret roof is somewhat vulnerable to chemical rounds
* No reactive armour
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* Ammunition Propellants are strewn throughout the vehicle, hull penetration and attacks from the side often result in ammo detonation, particularly noticeable if ammunition load was not reduced to 16 or less
* Weak manoeuvrability compared to other MBT's
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* Sub-par acceleration and top speed relative to many other MBTs
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* Prior to mobility upgrades being researched, manual neutral gear selection is required for reasonable hull traverse
  
 
== History ==
 
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Work on developing a successor to the Challenger 1 began only a short time after the vehicle entered service with the British armed forces. Already by the mid 1980s, the Vickers company had developed a new MBT as part of a private venture. After requirements for a next-generation MBT have been issued, Vickers immediately submitted their design on the new Challenger 2 to the Ministry of Defence. Having briefly considered the adoption of the M1 Abrams, the Ministry decided to proceed with the Vickers design by ordering the construction of a prototype Challenger 2 for testing and evaluation. The Challenger 2 passed evaluation and met expectations even when put through comparative testing against contemporary MBTs of other nations, such as the American M1 Abrams and German Leopard 2. Satisfied with the test results, the Ministry of Defence adopted the Challenger 2 and placed the first production order in 1993, with the initial batch consisting of 127 tanks in addition to 13 trainer vehicles. The first Challenger 2 tanks were delivered to the tank regiments by 1994. The Challenger 2 participated in several operations during the ‘90s and into the 2000s, ranging from peacekeeping missions on the Balkans to military interventions in Iraq. A number of Challenger 2 MBTs have also been exported to Oman, with this nation being the only operator of the Challenger 2, besides the UK. Production of Challenger 2 tanks seized in 2002 after all pending production orders were fulfilled, with close to 440 vehicles being produced. Since 2008, Challenger 2 tanks have constantly been undergoing modernization work, with a number of upgrade packages being developed. Thanks to these upgrades, the Challenger 2 MBT is expected to serve with the British Army well into the future.  
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Work on developing a successor to the Challenger 1 began only a short time after the vehicle entered service with the British armed forces. Already by the mid-1980s, the Vickers company had developed a new MBT as part of a private venture. After requirements for a next-generation MBT have been issued, Vickers immediately submitted their design on the new Challenger 2 to the Ministry of Defence. Having briefly considered the adoption of the M1 Abrams, the Ministry decided to proceed with the Vickers design by ordering the construction of a prototype Challenger 2 for testing and evaluation. The Challenger 2 passed the evaluation and met expectations even when put through comparative testing against contemporary MBTs of other nations, such as the American M1 Abrams and German Leopard 2. Satisfied with the test results, the Ministry of Defence adopted the Challenger 2 and placed the first production order in 1993, with the initial batch consisting of 127 tanks in addition to 13 trainer vehicles. The first Challenger 2 tanks were delivered to the tank regiments by 1994. The Challenger 2 participated in several operations during the '90s and into the 2000s, ranging from peacekeeping missions on the Balkans to military interventions in Iraq. A number of Challenger 2 MBTs have also been exported to Oman, with this nation being the only operator of the Challenger 2, besides the UK. Production of Challenger 2 tanks seized in 2002 after all pending production orders were fulfilled, with close to 440 vehicles being produced. Since 2008, Challenger 2 tanks have constantly been undergoing modernization work, with a number of upgrade packages being developed. Thanks to these upgrades, the Challenger 2 MBT is expected to serve with the British Army well into the future.
  
''- From [https://warthunder.com/en/news/6035-development-challenger-2-and-rank-vii-armored-vehicles-en Devblog]''
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{{Britain medium tanks}}
 
{{Britain medium tanks}}

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This page is about the British medium tank Challenger 2. For other uses, see Challenger (Disambiguation).
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Challenger 2
AB RB SB
10.3 10.3 10.3
Class:
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Description

The Tank, Combat, 120-mm Gun, Challenger 2 (shortened to CR2) is a rank VII British medium tank with a battle rating of 10.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.87 "Locked On".

General info

Survivability and armour

ERA
Effective action against the cumulative ammunition
Composite armour
Balanced protection against all types of ammunition
Smoke grenades
Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle
ESS
Creation of a smoke screen in the direction of movement of the vehicle
Armourfront / side / back
Hull130 / 45 / 20
Turret270 / 90 / 63
Crew4 people
Visibility88 %
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull ___ mm ___ mm Top
___ mm Bottom
___ mm ___ - ___ mm
Turret ___ - ___ mm Turret front
___ mm Gun mantlet
___ - ___ mm ___ - ___ mm ___ - ___ mm
Cupola ___ mm ___ mm ___ mm ___ mm

Notes:

The Challenger 2 reinforces the strengths of the Challenger 1 Mk.2/Mk.3, with extremely well protected turret cheeks and better UFP protection, while suffering from similar weaknesses - a particularly weak lower front plate and negligible side protection.

The Challenger 2 has a defined gun mantlet that is far larger in area compared to previous Challenger models. This mantlet is very weak in comparison to the rest of the turret, providing roughly 300 mm of RHAe protection, making it a glaring weakspot that easily results in the destruction of the gun breech and loss of turret crew. Additionally, the taller turret design exposes a weak frontal roof slope - while this is a somewhat small vulnerability, penetration may result in the gunner or commander's incapacitation.

Similarly to the Challenger 1s, the driver's hatch on the Challenger 2 is a significant weakness that compromises the well protected UFP. The hatch has no composite behind it and provides at best 100 mm of RHA protection. As such, the Challenger 2 thrives in hull-down positions where minimal vulnerabilities are exposed and it can retreat into further cover if one of the few weak spots are penetrated. In situations where protective positioning is not an option, the Challenger 2 should be used conservatively and carefully, avoiding direct confrontation wherever possible.

If direct melee confrontation with Soviet medium tanks is impossible to avoid, operator should note, that, due to design differences, Challenger 2 towers over tanks like T-64B and at point blank (almost ramming range), LFP becomes untargetable for them, while UFP and turret take such a high angle, that even upgraded APFSDS of theirs have problems penetrating them. While it's very unlikely that rank VI or VII player will be this startled, Challenger 2 can survive about two to three panic shots like this.

If enemy was not confused by your aggression and immediately fired at driver's hatch or gun mantlet, the outcome will then be decided by amount of ammunition still stored inside of tank turret. If it was low enough, and enemy didn't account for it, then, depending on shell used, tank will lose either driver, loader, gunner or gun breech.

During urban combat it is also important to remember, that Challenger 2 hull is very big and long, compared to small Soviet MBT it feels like a landship, and it can block entire street with just it's hull if it was immobilized, rendering your teammates unable to assist. It is also very heavy and hard to push around, so they won't be able to just move you out of the way. Keep yourself closer to walls and avoid narrow streets, if you want to be helped.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB66 / 41 km/h
RB and SB60 / 37 km/h
Number of gears6 forward
2 back
Weight62.5 t
Engine power
AB2 322 hp
RB and SB1 217 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB37.2 hp/t
RB and SB19.5 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock AoA Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 66 41 62.5 1.1 1,886 2322 30.18 36.51
Realistic 60 37 1,076 1217 17.22 19.14

The Challenger 2 is fitted with a similar twin turbo V12 diesel engine to the Challenger 1, producing a maximum of 1,200 horsepower. The Challenger 2 can reach a maximum forward speed of 66 km/h (41 mph) in AB and 59 km/h (37 mph) in RB. The vehicle's stock performance is lacklustre, with acceleration and manoeuvrability suffering due to the Challenger 2's 62.5 tonne total weight. However, once all upgrades are researched, the Challenger 2 performs acceptably, despite being generally out-classed by competitor vehicles like the M1A2 and T-80U. The Challenger 2 also utilises a fully functional neutral steering system, and even when stock the vehicle's neutral steering ability is admirable - easiest used with manual gear selection to avoid shifting during traverse. Notably, the Challenger 2's reverse speed is quite comfortable, with the vehicle capable of up to 36 km/h (RB/SB) backwards thanks to the two reverse gears.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB5 000 → 7 904 Sl icon.png
RB4 800 → 7 588 Sl icon.png
SB5 700 → 9 011 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications276 400 Rp icon.png
437 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 800 Ge icon.png
Crew training290 000 Sl icon.png
Experts1 020 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 100 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 080 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
120 / 150 / 170 % Sl icon.png
232 / 232 / 232 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
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Tracks
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
400 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
400 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Parts
Research:
4 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
FPE
Research:
3 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement uk.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods engine smoke screen system.png
ESS
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
400 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods smoke screen.png
Smoke grenade
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods thermal sight.png
NVD
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods tank additional armor.png
Dorchester 2E
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
120mm_britain_Smoke_ammo_pack
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods tank laser rangefinder.png
Laser rangefinder
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
400 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
120mm_britain_L26_APDSFS_ammo_pack
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
400 Ge icon.png
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Artillery Support
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
400 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Laser rangefinder
Reduces the error and increases the maximum measurable distance of the rangefinder
Night vision device
Improves visibility by enhancing natural light or active illumination.
Thermal imager
Allows to see thermal radiation in the infrared range day and night

Main armament

120 mm L30A1 cannon
Two-plane stabilizer
Reduces the swing of the gun in two planes while moving
Ammunition50 rounds
First-order4 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
6.5 → 5.0 s
Vertical guidance-10° / 20°
Main article: L30A1 (120 mm)

The Challenger 2's primary armament is the 120 mm L30A1 cannon. Unlike most modern MBT cannons, the L30A1 is rifled as opposed to smoothbore. This is primarily due to the British preference for HESH (High-Explosive Squash Head) ammunition availability, the design of which requires a rifled cannon for accurate fire. The rifled design has some positive attributes: it's extremely accurate with both HESH and APFSDS rounds, including at long range; however the downside is a limited selection of ammunition: the CR2 only has the L23A1 and L26 APFSDS rounds, the L31A7 HESH round and the L34 Smoke round available to it.

The L30A1 has a base reload time of 6.5 seconds, improving to 5 seconds with an aced crew. As a result, the Challenger 2 sports the fastest reloading 120 mm cannon in-game along with the Type 90's autoloaded 120 mm (as of the time of writing). In addition, the Challenger 2 allows the L30A1 a comfortable 10° of gun depression and a reasonable turret traverse speed.

The characteristics of the CR2 in combination with the L30A1 weight the vehicle towards a long-range sniping playstyle, something the vehicle generally feels very comfortable doing as it minimises the inferior mobility of the vehicle by having it stay in the back, providing long range fire support and exploiting unaware enemies.

120 mm L30A1 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 50 -10°/+20° ±180° Two-plane 29.50 40.85 47.85 56.60 58.35 6.50 5.75 5.30 5.00
Realistic 18.40 21.70 25.42 30.03 31.00

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Shot L23A1 APFSDS 396 394 387 376 367 357
Shell L31A7 HESH 152 152 152 152 152 152
L26 APFSDS 471 469 464 457 450 443
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Shot L23A1 APFSDS 1,535 3.89 N/A N/A N/A 78° 80° 81°
Shell L31A7 HESH 670 17.1 0.4 0.1 6,560 73° 77° 80°
L26 APFSDS 1,550 4.1 N/A N/A N/A 78° 80° 81°
Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Screen radius
(m)
Screen deploy time
(s)
Screen hold time
(s)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
L34 670 17.1 20 5 25 50

Ammo racks

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
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Machine guns

7.62 mm L94A1 machine gun (coaxial)
Ammunition2 300 rounds
Belt capacity2 000 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate600 shots/min
7.62 mm L37A2 machine gun
Ammunition1 700 rounds
Belt capacity100 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate650 shots/min

The Challenger 2 possesses one pintle-mounted 7.62 mm machine gun and one coaxial 7.62 mm machine gun. While these aren't particularly effective against aircraft, they can be used as a deterrent, and lucky shots may result in critical damage or pilot snipes. Besides anti-aircraft fire, they're useful for clearing light obstacles and the crew of open-top vehicles.

7.62 mm L37A2
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Pintle 1,700 (100) 650 -10°/+50° ±180°
7.62 mm L94A1
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 2,300 (2,000) 600 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

The Challenger 2 excels as a sniper or a support tank, and should be played as such whenever possible. As such, it's important to try to find reasonable cover, regardless of the situation, with the ideal position being hull-down, preferably with some degree of angling available to maximise the bouncing capability of the frontal turret roof section. The Challenger 2 is the slowest of the top rank MBTs - a fact which is extremely important to keep in mind when using it - and as such should never be expected to rush points or used for quick flanks.

Rural Combat

The CR2 is most comfortable in rural combat, where cover is generally plentiful and targets will often open themselves to fire when moving forward. This is particularly perceptible on maps such as Maginot Line, where, in most configurations, the main routes to capture points are open to snipers on hills throughout the landscape. In these situations the CR2 excels, able to hold a defensive position while protecting team members in faster MBTs and covering capture points.

Urban Combat

The Challenger 2 is less agreeable in urban situations, where proper cover is more rare and its fatal weak points are often more exposed. In some situations, such as Alaska, the opportunity may arise to flank around the side roads and pick a somewhat protected position behind the ridges lining them. However, in other maps like American Desert or Cargo Port proper hull-down cover is sparse and the vehicle can only be utilised without proper protection. In situations such as this, the Challenger 2 is best played defensively holding angles and slowly pushing forward with careful attention to the local surroundings and where opposing vehicles may appear from.

Notable Targets

  • Leopard 2A5: The 2A5 should be engaged with care: it has better overall protection than the Challenger 2, and in many situations can appear near-impossible to destroy at range. Aim for the gun mantlet with at least the intention of disabling the weapon; some rounds may make it past and knock crew out. If the frontal hull is presented, aim for the left side of the hull as usually the driver, gunner and commander are all lined up so they can be knocked out all at the same time, resulting in the Leopard's destruction.
  • Leclerc: The Leclerc is in possession of one of the few rounds capable of penetrating the Challenger 2 UFP reliably. When in combat with the Leclerc, it's important to expose as little of the CR2 as possible - if the Leclerc is able to destroy your weapon, it will often be able to use its high speed to get close enough to finish you off.
  • C1 Ariete/Ariete PSO: The C1 Ariete and Ariete PSO with the CL1343 shell can penetrate nearly anywhere on the Challenger 2, with the exception of the outer turret cheeks (and even then, at close ranges and particular angles, it can even punch through those). As such, it's a potent sniper and should be handled with care. Fortunately, the Ariete MBTs have somewhat sub-par protection characteristics, and the Challenger 2 will often prove itself capable of quickly dispatching an Ariete at range.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Extremely accurate main cannon
  • Good gunner optics
  • 10° of gun depression
  • Fast reload, particularly for a 120 mm
  • Extremely good turret cheek protection
  • Good UFP protection
  • 36 km/h reverse speed
  • Has ESS, smoke shells and smoke grenades
  • Can get upgraded chemical protection with Dorchester battle pack
  • Ammunition in the back of the turret is actually inert and will only slightly damage crew on destruction instead of exploding and can even be removed entirely. This makes tank less vulnerable to roof shots and tanks with super strong APFSDS, like Ariete, when compared to other NATO tanks using "blowout panel" (like IPM1), which can get sniped through and destroyed in a single move.

Cons:

  • A CR2 with an exposed hull is extremely vulnerable
  • Negligible LFP armour
  • Cannon surround has negligible armour
  • The frontal turret roof is somewhat vulnerable to chemical rounds
  • Ammunition Propellants are strewn throughout the vehicle, hull penetration and attacks from the side often result in ammo detonation, particularly noticeable if ammunition load was not reduced to 16 or less
  • Sub-par acceleration and top speed relative to many other MBTs
  • Prior to mobility upgrades being researched, manual neutral gear selection is required for reasonable hull traverse

History

Work on developing a successor to the Challenger 1 began only a short time after the vehicle entered service with the British armed forces. Already by the mid-1980s, the Vickers company had developed a new MBT as part of a private venture. After requirements for a next-generation MBT have been issued, Vickers immediately submitted their design on the new Challenger 2 to the Ministry of Defence. Having briefly considered the adoption of the M1 Abrams, the Ministry decided to proceed with the Vickers design by ordering the construction of a prototype Challenger 2 for testing and evaluation. The Challenger 2 passed the evaluation and met expectations even when put through comparative testing against contemporary MBTs of other nations, such as the American M1 Abrams and German Leopard 2. Satisfied with the test results, the Ministry of Defence adopted the Challenger 2 and placed the first production order in 1993, with the initial batch consisting of 127 tanks in addition to 13 trainer vehicles. The first Challenger 2 tanks were delivered to the tank regiments by 1994. The Challenger 2 participated in several operations during the '90s and into the 2000s, ranging from peacekeeping missions on the Balkans to military interventions in Iraq. A number of Challenger 2 MBTs have also been exported to Oman, with this nation being the only operator of the Challenger 2, besides the UK. Production of Challenger 2 tanks seized in 2002 after all pending production orders were fulfilled, with close to 440 vehicles being produced. Since 2008, Challenger 2 tanks have constantly been undergoing modernization work, with a number of upgrade packages being developed. Thanks to these upgrades, the Challenger 2 MBT is expected to serve with the British Army well into the future.

- From Devblog

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See also

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Britain medium tanks
Cromwell  Cromwell I · Cromwell V · Cromwell V (RP-3)
Based on Cromwell  Challenger · Comet I · Comet I "Iron Duke IV"
Centurion  Centurion Mk 1 · Centurion Mk 3 · Centurion Mk.5 AVRE · Centurion Mk 10 · Centurion Action X · FV4202
Chieftain  Chieftain Mk 3 · Chieftain Mk 5 · Chieftain Mk 10
Challenger  Challenger Mk.2 · Challenger Mk.3 · Challenger 2 · Challenger 2 (2F)
Valentine  Valentine I · Valentine IX · Valentine XI
Vickers  Vickers MBT · Vickers Mk.7
Foreign  Grant I (USA) · Sherman IC "Trzyniec" (USA) · Sherman Firefly (USA) · Sherman II (USA)
  A.C.IV (Australia) · ▄Strv 81 (RB 52) (Sweden) · Sho't Kal Dalet (Israel)