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{{Notice|[[User talk:U38088265/Archive/2019]]}}
  
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== Description ==
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== Mobility template ==
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]].
 
  
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== General info ==
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Hello, I've been using the Mobility Template [[Template:TankMobility]] lately but I've noticed a lot of discrepancies between in-game values and the wiki.
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=== Survivability and armour ===
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{{Sp-begin|Discrepancies as of 08.03.20}}
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<!--Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.-->
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=== US tree (finished) ===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! rowspan="2" | Vehicle || colspan="2" | AB Engine upgraded || colspan="2" | Weight || rowspan="2" | Date
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! In-game !! Wiki !! In-game !! Wiki
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| [[M13 MGMC#Mobility|M13 MGMC]] || 259 HP || 282 HP || || ||
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| [[M3 GMC#Mobility|M3 GMC]] || 259 HP || 282 HP || || ||
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| [[M16 MGMC#Mobility|M16 MGMC]] || 259 HP || 282 HP || || ||
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| [[M8 Greyhound#Mobility|M8 Greyhound]] || 159 HP || 210 HP || || ||
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| [[M10 GMC#Mobility|M10 GMC]] || 717 HP || 782 HP || || ||
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| [[LVT(A)(4) ZIS-2 (USA)#Mobility|LVT(A)(4) ZIS-2 (USA)]] || 437 HP || 477 HP || || ||
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| [[M6A1#Mobility|M6A1]] || 1272 HP || 1526 HP || || ||
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| [[M15A1 CGMC#Mobility|M15A1 CGMC]] || 259 HP || 282 HP || || ||
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| [[M18 GMC#Mobility|M18 GMC]] || 804 HP || 878 HP || || ||
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| [[M4A3E2#Mobility|M4A3E2]] || 795 HP || 954 HP || || ||
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| [[M18 "Black Cat"#Mobility|M18 "Black Cat"]] || 804 HP || 878 HP || || ||
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| [[Cobra King#Mobility|Cobra King]] || 795 HP || 954 HP || || ||
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| [[M4A3E2 (76) W#Mobility|M4A3E2 (76) W]] || 795 HP || 954 HP || || ||
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| [[M19#Mobility|M19]] || 518 HP || 565 HP || || ||
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| [[M36 GMC#Mobility|M36 GMC]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || || ||
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| [[M56#Mobility|M56]] || 350 HP || 382 HP || || ||
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| [[T26E1-1#Mobility|T26E1-1]] || 795 HP || 954 HP || || ||
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| [[Super Hellcat#Mobility|Super Hellcat]] || 804 HP || 878 HP || || ||
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| [[T34#Mobility|T34]] || 1287 HP || 1545 HP || 65.8t || 65.1t ||
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| [[T29#Mobility|T29]] || 1224 HP || 1469 HP || || ||
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| [[T30#Mobility|T30]] || 1287 HP || 1545 HP || 65.8t || 65.1t ||
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| [[T32#Mobility|T32]] || 1228 HP || 1469 HP || || ||
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| [[T32E1#Mobility|T32E1]] || 1228 HP || 1469 HP || || ||
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| [[M42#Mobility|M42]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || || ||
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| [[T95#Mobility|T95]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || || ||
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| [[T114#Mobility|T114]] || 280 HP || 305 HP || || ||
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| [[M103#Mobility|M103]] || 1287 HP || 1545 HP || || ||
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| [[M163#Mobility|M163]] || || || 11.0t || 11.2t ||
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| [[M247#Mobility|M247]] || 1310 HP || 1431 HP || || ||
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| [[XM-803#Mobility|XM-803]] || 2356 HP || 2385 HP || || ||
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| [[M1 Abrams#Mobility|M1 Abrams]] || 2533 HP || 2898 HP || || ||
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| [[IPM1#Mobility|IPM1]] || 2533 HP || 2898 HP || || ||
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| [[M1A1 Abrams#Mobility|M1A1 Abrams]] || 2533 HP || 2898 HP || || ||
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| [[ADATS#Mobility|ADATS]] || || || 23.7t || 25.0t ||
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| [[M1A2 Abrams#Mobility|M1A2 Abrams]] || 2533 HP || 2898 HP || || ||
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|}
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[[XM-1 (Chrysler)]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
  
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The Chi-ha Kai has little to no armour against its common opponents like the [[Pz.II|Pz.II]]. It has only 25mm of armour on the turret cheeks and the frontal plate, and 20-25mm at the hull sides. Its thin armour might only, with some luck, bounce off some auto-cannon shells while angling, or block the low penetration shells from a distance. Unfortunately, when being hit and penetrated, the Chi-Ha is usually destroyed with one or two shots. However, this tank has a fairly small frontal profile, making it harder to be hit. Also, for the guns lacking post-penetration damage, the Chi-ha has an okay survivability, as it has a total of 5 crews and they are not too cramped together due to the long hull. The huge transmission system at the front of the tank can absorb a good amount of shells without hurting the crew members, at the price of making the tank immobile and vulnerable.  
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=== German tree (finished)===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! rowspan="2" | Vehicle || colspan="2" | AB Engine upgraded || colspan="2" | Weight
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! In-game !! Wiki !! In-game !! Wiki
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| [[Pz.III B#Mobility|Pz.III B]] || 334 HP || 477 HP || ||
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| [[Flakpanzer I#Mobility|Flakpanzer I]] || 100 HP || 109 HP || ||
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|-
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| [[Panzerjager I#Mobility|Panzerjager I]] || 175 HP || 191 HP || ||
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|-
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| [[Flakpanzer 38#Mobility|Flakpanzer 38]] || 262 HP || 286 HP || ||
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|-
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| [[Sd.Kfz.234/3#Mobility|Sd.Kfz.234/3]] || 367 HP || 401 HP || ||
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| [[15cm sIG 33 B Sfl#Mobility|15cm sIG 33 B Sfl]] || 271 HP || 296 HP || ||
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| [[Pz.III J#Mobility|Pz.III J]] || || || 21.8t || 21.3t
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| [[StuG III A#Mobility|StuG III A]] || 525 HP || 572 HP || ||
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| [[Pz.III J1#Mobility|Pz.III J1]] || || || 21.8t || 21.3t
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| [[Sd.Kfz. 6/2#Mobility|Sd.Kfz. 6/2]] || 201 HP || 219 HP || ||
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| [[StuH 42 G#Mobility|StuH 42 G]] || 525 HP || 572 HP || ||
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| [[Sd.Kfz.234/4#Mobility|Sd.Kfz.234/4]] || 367 HP || 401 HP || ||
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| [[Marder III#Mobility|Marder III]] || 280 HP || 305 HP || ||
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| [[Marder III H#Mobility|Marder III H]] || 262 HP || 286 HP || ||
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| [[StuG III F#Mobility|StuG III F]] || 525 HP || 572 HP || ||
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| [[8,8 cm Flak 37 Sfl.#Mobility|8,8 cm Flak 37 Sfl.]] || 402 HP || 439 HP || 24.3t || 25.0t
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| [[StuG III G#Mobility|StuG III G]] || 525 HP || 572 HP || ||
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| [[15 cm Pz.W.42#Mobility|15 cm Pz.W.42]] || 119 HP || 130 HP || ||
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| [[Dicker Max#Mobility|Dicker Max]] || 315 HP || 343 HP || ||
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| [[Tiger H1#Mobility|Tiger H1]] || 1033 HP || 1240 HP || ||
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| [[Wirbelwind#Mobility|Wirbelwind]] || 525 HP || 572 HP || ||
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| [[Jagdpanzer 38(t)#Mobility|Jagdpanzer 38(t)]] || 280 HP || 305 HP || ||
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| [[KV-IB (Germany)#Mobility|KV-IB (Germany)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP || ||
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| [[Sturer Emil#Mobility|Sturer Emil]] || 542 HP || 591 HP || ||
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| [[Tiger E#Mobility|Tiger E]] || 1133 HP || 1336 HP || ||
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| [[Ostwind#Mobility|Ostwind]] || 525 HP || 572 HP || ||
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| [[Jagdpanzer IV#Mobility|Jagdpanzer IV]] || 525 HP || 572 HP || ||
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| [[KV II 754 (r) (Germany)#Mobility|KV II 754 (r) (Germany)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP || ||
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| [[Pz.Kpfw. Churchill (Germany)#Mobility|Pz.Kpfw. Churchill (Germany)]] || 556 HP || 668 HP || ||
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| [[Nashorn#Mobility|Nashorn]] || 525 HP || 572 HP || 24.3t || 23.5t
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| [[Panzer IV/70(V)#Mobility|Panzer IV/70(V)]] || 525 HP || 572 HP || ||
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| [[Panzer IV/70(A)#Mobility|Panzer IV/70(A)]] || 525 HP || 572 HP || ||
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| [[Brummbar#Mobility|Brummbar]] || 463 HP || 506 HP || 27.8t || 28.2t
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| [[VFW#Mobility|VFW]] || 630 HP || 687 HP || ||
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| [[KV I C 756 (r) (Germany)#Mobility|KV I C 756 (r) (Germany)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP || ||
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| [[VK 45.01 (P)#Mobility|VK 45.01 (P)]] || 984 HP || 1183 HP || ||
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| [[Tiger (Germany)#Mobility|Tiger (Germany)]] || 1033 HP || 1240 HP || ||
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| [[Waffentrager#Mobility|Waffentrager]] || 245 HP || 267 HP || 16.3t || 17.0t
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| [[Tiger II (P)#Mobility|Tiger II (P)]] || 1113 HP || 1336 HP || ||
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| [[Ostwind II#Mobility|Ostwind II]] || 525 HP || 572 HP || ||
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| [[Jagdpanther#Mobility|Jagdpanther]] || 1224 HP || 1336 HP || ||
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| [[Bfw. Jagdpanther#Mobility|Bfw. Jagdpanther]] || 1224 HP || 1336 HP || ||
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| [[Tiger II (H) Sla.16#Mobility|Tiger II (H) Sla.16]] || 1191 HP || 1431 HP || ||
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| [[Tiger II (H)#Mobility|Tiger II (H)]] || 1113 HP || 1336 HP || ||
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| [[Ferdinand#Mobility|Ferdinand]] || 926 HP || 1011 HP || ||
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| [[Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P#Mobility|Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P]] || 841 HP || 1011 HP || ||
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| [[Flakpanzer 341#Mobility|Flakpanzer 341]] || 1048 HP || 1145 HP || ||
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| [[JPz 4-5#Mobility|JPz 4-5]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || ||
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| [[Kugelblitz#Mobility|Kugelblitz]] || 525 HP || 572 HP || ||
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| [[Jagdtiger#Mobility|Jagdtiger]] || 1224 HP || 1336 HP || ||
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| [[Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K)#Mobility|Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K)]] || 1431 HP || 1717 HP || ||
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| [[E-100#Mobility|E-100]] || 1431 HP || 1717 HP || ||
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| [[Maus#Mobility|Maus]] || 1905 HP || 2290 HP || ||
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| [[RakJPz 2#Mobility|RakJPz 2]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || ||
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| [[RakJPz 2 (HOT)#Mobility|RakJPz 2 (HOT)]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || ||
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| [[Gepard#Mobility|Gepard]] || 1450 HP || 1584 HP || ||
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| [[VT1-2#Mobility|VT1-2]] || ???? HP || 4197 HP || ||
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| [[Leopard 2K#Mobility|Leopard 2K]] || 2500 HP || 2862 HP || ||
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| [[Leopard 2A4#Mobility|Leopard 2A4]] || 2500 HP || 2862 HP || ||
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| [[Leopard 2A5#Mobility|Leopard 2A5]] || 2500 HP || 2862 HP || ||
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| [[FlaRakPz 1#Mobility|FlaRakPz 1]] || 1048 HP || 1145 HP || ||
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[[M4 748 (a) (Germany)]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
  
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=== Mobility ===
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=== Soviet tree (finished)===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! In-game !! Wiki !! In-game !! Wiki
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| [[BT-5#Mobility|BT-5]] || 487 HP || 696 HP || || ||
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| [[SU-5-1#Mobility|SU-5-1]] || 157 HP || 172 HP || || ||
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| [[GAZ-AAA (4M)#Mobility|GAZ-AAA (4M)]] || 100 HP || 109 HP || || ||
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| [[GAZ-AAA (DShK)#Mobility|GAZ-AAA (DShK)]] || 100 HP || 109 HP || || ||
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| [[T-35#Mobility|T-35]] || 795 HP || 954 HP || || ||
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| [[SU-57#Mobility|SU-57]] || 259 HP || 282 HP || || ||
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| [[BM-8-24#Mobility|BM-8-24]] || 133 HP || 145 HP || || ||
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| [[T-III (USSR)#Mobility|T-III (USSR)]] || || || 21.8t || 21.3t ||
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| [[ZiS-30#Mobility|ZiS-30]] || 87 HP || 95 HP || || ||
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| [[GAZ-MM (72-K)#Mobility|GAZ-MM (72-K)]] || 100 HP || 109 HP || || ||
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| [[BM-13N#Mobility|BM-13N]] || 164 HP || 179 HP || || ||
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| [[KV-1 (L-11)#Mobility|KV-1 (L-11)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP || || ||
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| [[SU-76M#Mobility|SU-76M]] || 245 HP || 267 HP || || ||
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| [[BTR-152A#Mobility|BTR-152A]] || 192 HP || 210 HP || || ||
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| [[SU-76M (5th Gv.Kav.Corps)#Mobility|SU-76M (5th Gv.Kav.Corps)]] || 245 HP || 267 HP || || ||
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| [[KV-1S#Mobility|KV-1S]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP || 41.4t || 42.5t ||
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| [[SU-122#Mobility|SU-122]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || || ||
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| [[ZiS-12 (94-KM)#Mobility|ZiS-12 (94-KM)]] || 122 HP || 134 HP || 3.0t || 7.0t ||
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| [[MK-II "Matilda" (USSR)#Mobility|MK-II "Matilda" (USSR)]] || 302 HP || 363 HP || || ||
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| [[ZUT-37#Mobility|ZUT-37]] || 297 HP || 324 HP || || ||
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| [[SU-85A#Mobility|SU-85A]] || 245 HP || 267 HP || || ||
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| [[SMK#Mobility|SMK]] || 1351 HP || 1622 HP || || ||
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| [[KV-1 (ZiS-5)#Mobility|KV-1 (ZiS-5)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP || || ||
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| [[ASU-57#Mobility|ASU-57]] || 96 HP || 105 HP || || ||
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| [[SU-57B#Mobility|SU-57B]] || 182 HP || 198 HP || || ||
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| [[YaG-10 (29-K)#Mobility|YaG-10 (29-K)]] || 164 HP || 177 HP || || ||
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| [[KV-2 (1940)#Mobility|KV-2 (1940)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP || || ||
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| [[KV-2 (1939)#Mobility|KV-2 (1939)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP || || ||
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| [[KV-85#Mobility|KV-85]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP || || ||
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| [[SU-85#Mobility|SU-85]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || || ||
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| [[SU-85M#Mobility|SU-85M]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || || ||
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| [[ZiS-43#Mobility|ZiS-43]] || 157 HP || 172 HP || || ||
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| [[SU-100Y#Mobility|SU-100Y]] || 1486 HP || 162 HP || || ||
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| [[IS-1#Mobility|IS-1]] || 827 HP || 992 HP || || ||
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| [[SU-152#Mobility|SU-152]] || 1049 HP || 1145 HP || || ||
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| [[KV-2 (ZiS-6)#Mobility|KV-2 (ZiS-6)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP || || ||
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| [[KV-1E#Mobility|KV-1E]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP || || ||
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| [[Type 65 (USSR)#Mobility|Type 65 (USSR)]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || || ||
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| [[KV-220#Mobility|KV-220]] || 1351 HP || 1622 HP || || ||
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|-
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| [[ISU-152#Mobility|ISU-152]] || 909 HP || 992 HP || || ||
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|-
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| [[ZSU-37#Mobility|ZSU-37]] || 245 HP || 267 HP || || ||
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| [[KV-122#Mobility|KV-122]] || 827 HP || 992 HP || || ||
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|}
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[[T-34 (Prototype)]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
  
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 263|rbMinHp= 150}}
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[[T-34 (1st Gv.T.Br.)]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
  
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In general, this tank can get to pretty much anywhere an average medium tank can get to. The engine of the {{PAGENAME}} is not powerful at all with its 170 hp power output, but luckily the tank itself only weights 15 tons, therefore giving it an average power-to-weight ratio of 11.33. The 40 km/h top speed is pretty useful as it reaches this speed easily. The turning ability is not ideal, as its tracks are long, narrow and close to each other, making it slow and sluggish in a turn.
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[[T-34-85E]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
  
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== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
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{{main|Type 1 (47 mm)}}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! In-game !! Wiki !! In-game !! Wiki
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| [[Breda 501#Mobility|Breda 501]] || 248 HP || 271 HP || || || 09.02.2020
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| [[R3 T20 FA-HS#Mobility|R3 T20 FA-HS]] || 166 HP || 181 HP || || || 09.02.2020
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| [[105/25 M43#Mobility|105/25 M43]] || 324 HP || 353 HP || || || 09.02.2020
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| [[75/34 M43#Mobility|75/34 M43]] || 324 HP || 353 HP || || || 09.02.2020
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| [[75/46 M43#Mobility|75/46 M43]] || 324 HP || 353 HP || || || 09.02.2020
 
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| [[AUBL/74#Mobility|AUBL/74]] || || || 8.2t || 8.5t || 09.02.2020
 
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! Mode
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| [[R3 T106 FA#Mobility|R3 T106 FA]] || || || 3.4t || 3.5t || 09.02.2020
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! Capacity
 
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! Horizontal
 
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! Stabilizer
 
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! Stock
 
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! Upgraded
 
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! Full
 
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! Expert
 
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! Stock
 
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! ''Arcade''
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| [[Centauro#Mobility|Centauro]] || || || 25.0t || 27.0t || 09.02.2020
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| rowspan="2" | 104 || rowspan="2" | -15°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Vertical || 8.9 || 12.4 || 15.0 || 26.5 || __.__ || rowspan="2" | 4.30 || rowspan="2" | 3.80 || rowspan="2" | 3.50 || rowspan="2" | __.__
 
 
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| [[Centauro ROMOR#Mobility|Centauro ROMOR]] || || || 28.0t || 30.0t || 09.02.2020
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| 8.9 || 10.5 || 12.8 || 14.1 || __.__
 
 
|-
 
|-
 +
| [[Ariete (P)#Mobility|Ariete (P)]] || || || 53.0t || 53.8t || 09.02.2020
 
|}
 
|}
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[[M43 "G.C.Leoncello"]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.-->
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The Chi-Ha Kai is armed with a [[Type 1 (47 mm)|47 mm Type 1]] cannon with a maximum of 104 rounds. The 75 mm penetration at 100 m makes it easy to penetrate most of its opponents at its battle rating, and if penetrated, the damage is usually big enough to destroy a tank. The fast reload time (about 4 seconds) allows it to quickly fire the second shell if the first one missed or didn't penetrate. It has an amazing depression of 15 degrees and a vertical stabiliser that works when your tank is slower than 11 km/h, which are always the advantages. However the shells drop dramatically at long distances, making it hard to snipe the enemies far away.
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{{Sp-end}}
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===== Ammunition =====
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{{Sp-begin|Discrepancies in progress}}
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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|-
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! rowspan="2" | Vehicle || colspan="2" | AB Engine upgraded || colspan="2" | Weight || rowspan="2" | Date
 +
|-
 +
! In-game !! Wiki !! In-game !! Wiki
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|-
 +
| [[IS-2#Mobility|IS-2]] || 827 HP || 992 HP || || || 09.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[IS-2 (1944)#Mobility|IS-2 (1944)]] || 827 HP || 992 HP || || || 09.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[ASU-85#Mobility|ASU-85]] || 367 HP || 401 HP || || || 09.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[ISU-122#Mobility|ISU-122]] || 909 HP || 992 HP || || || 09.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[ISU-122S#Mobility|ISU-122S]] || 909 HP || 992 HP || || || 09.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[SU-100P#Mobility|SU-100P]] || 699 HP || 763 HP || || || 09.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[SU-100#Mobility|SU-100]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || || || 09.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[SU-122P#Mobility|SU-122P]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || || || 09.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[IS-2 "Revenge"#Mobility|IS-2 "Revenge"]] || 827 HP || 992 HP || || || 09.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Type 62 (USSR)#Mobility|Type 62 (USSR)]] || || || 20.5t || 20.3t || 09.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[IS-6#Mobility|IS-6]] || 1113 HP || 1336 HP || 51.1t || 51.4t || 09.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[IS-3#Mobility|IS-3]] || 827 HP || 992 HP || || || 10.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[SU-122-54#Mobility|SU-122-54]] || 909 HP || 992 HP || || || 10.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[ZSU-57-2#Mobility|ZSU-57-2]] || 909 HP || 992 HP || || || 10.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Object 120#Mobility|Object 120]] || 839 HP || 916 HP || 26.8t || 27.0t || 10.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[IS-7#Mobility|IS-7]] || 1669 HP || 2003 HP || || || 10.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[IS-4M#Mobility|IS-4M]] || 1192 HP || 1431 HP || || || 10.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Object 268#Mobility|Object 268]] || 1310 HP || 1431 HP || || || 10.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[T-10M#Mobility|T-10M]] || 1192 HP || 1431 HP || || || 11.03.2020
 
|-
 
|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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| [[Object 906#Mobility|Object 906]] || || || 14.8t || 15.0t || 11.03.2020
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! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
 
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
 
 
|-
 
|-
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! 10m
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| [[ZSU-23-4#Mobility|ZSU-23-4]] || 490 HP || 534 HP || 20.7t || 21.0t || 11.03.2020
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! 100m
 
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! 500m
 
−
! 1000m
 
−
! 1500m
 
−
! 2000m
 
 
|-
 
|-
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| Type 1 APHE || APHE || 88 || 83 || 69 || 50 || 40 || 33
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| [[BMP-2#Mobility|BMP-2]] || || || 14.0t || 13.2t || 11.03.2020
 
|-
 
|-
−
|}
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| [[Shturm-S#Mobility|Shturm-S]] || 420 HP || 458 HP || || || 11.03.2020
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
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! colspan="11" | Shell details
 
 
|-
 
|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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| [[T-64B#Mobility|T-64B]] || || || 40.1t || 39.0t || 11.03.2020
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! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
 
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! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
 
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! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
 
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
 
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''in m:''
 
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
 
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''in mm:''
 
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! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
 
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! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
 
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! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
 
 
|-
 
|-
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! 0%
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| [[T-72A#Mobility|T-72A]] || || || 41.0t || 40.2t || 11.03.2020
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! 50%
 
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! 100%
 
 
|-
 
|-
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| Type 1 APHE || APHE || 822 || 1.4 || 1.2 || 15 ||  || 47° || 60° || 65°
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| [[T-80B#Mobility|T-80B]] || || || 42.5t || 42.0t || 11.03.2020
 
|-
 
|-
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| [[ZPRK 2S6#Mobility|ZPRK 2S6]] || 1240 HP || 1355 HP || 34.6t || 34.0t || 11.03.2020
 
|}
 
|}
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The weight discrepancy for [[BMP-2]], [[T-64B]], [[T-72A]] and [[T-80B]] comes from the fact that the add-on armor weight is removed twice. The add-on armor weight is most likely not counted in the total weight of the vehicle.
  
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===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
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=== British tree (finished)===
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[[File:Ammoracks_Chi-Ha_Kai.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] for the Chi-Ha Kai.]]
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! rowspan="2" | Vehicle || colspan="2" | AB Engine upgraded || colspan="2" | Weight || rowspan="2" | Date
 +
|-
 +
! In-game !! Wiki !! In-game !! Wiki
 +
|-
 +
| [[Mk.VIA AA#Mobility|Mk.VIA AA]] || 154 HP || 168 HP || || || 11.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Daimler AC Mk.II#Mobility|Daimler AC Mk.II]] || 137 HP || 181 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[T17E2#Mobility|T17E2]] || 339 HP || 370 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Independent#Mobility|Independent]] || 588 HP || 706 HP || 32.0t || 31.7t || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Matilda III#Mobility|Matilda III]] || 302 HP || 363 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[AC Mk II AA#Mobility|AC Mk II AA]] || 276 HP || 301 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Cromwell Mk.V (RP-3)#Mobility|Cromwell Mk.V (RP-3)]] || || || 28.2t || 28.4t || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[3 inch Gun Carrier#Mobility|3 inch Gun Carrier]] || 612 HP || 668 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Churchill Mk I#Mobility|Churchill Mk I]] || 556 HP || 668 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Archer#Mobility|Archer]] || 336 HP || 366 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Churchill Mk III#Mobility|Churchill Mk III]] || 556 HP || 668 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 
|-
 
|-
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br /> ammo
+
| [[Achilles#Mobility|Achilles]] || 717 HP || 782 HP || || || 12.03.2020
−
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br />  rack empty
 
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br />  rack empty
 
−
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br />  rack empty
 
−
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th<br />  rack empty
 
−
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th<br />  rack empty
 
−
! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th<br />  rack empty
 
−
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
 
 
|-
 
|-
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|| '''104''' || 75&nbsp;''(+29)'' || 71&nbsp;''(+33)'' || 66&nbsp;''(+38)'' || 54&nbsp;''(+50)'' || 9&nbsp;''(+95)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+103)'' || style="text-align:left" | Yes
+
| [[Crusader AA Mk II#Mobility|Crusader AA Mk II]] || 595 HP || 649 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 
|-
 
|-
 +
| [[Churchill Mk VII#Mobility|Churchill Mk VII]] || 556 HP || 668 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Excelsior#Mobility|Excelsior]] || 997 HP || 1198 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[QF 3.7 Ram#Mobility|QF 3.7 Ram]] || 699 HP || 763 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[FV4202#Mobility|FV4202]] || || || 37.0t || 37.2t || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Charioteer Mk VII#Mobility|Charioteer Mk VII]] || 1049 HP || 1145 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Crusader AA Mk I#Mobility|Crusader AA Mk I]] || 595 HP || 649 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Black Prince#Mobility|Black Prince]] || 556 HP || 668 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Caernarvon#Mobility|Caernarvon]] || 1287 HP || 1545 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Tortoise#Mobility|Tortoise]] || 1137 HP || 1240 HP || || || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[FV4005#Mobility|FV4005]] || 1137 HP || 1240 HP || 59.5t || 60.0t || 12.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Conway#Mobility|Conway]] || 1110 HP || 1212 HP || || || 13.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Falcon#Mobility|Falcon]] || 372 HP || 406 HP || || || 13.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Conqueror#Mobility|Conqueror]] || 1287 HP || 1545 HP || || || 13.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Swingfire#Mobility|Swingfire]] || 420 HP || 458 HP || 15.9t || 16.2t || 13.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Chieftain Marksman#Mobility|Chieftain Marksman]] || 1328 HP || 1450 HP || || || 13.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Rooikat 105#Mobility|Rooikat 105]] || 991 HP || 1082 HP || || || 19.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Vickers Mk.7#Mobility|Vickers Mk.7]] || 2500 HP || 2862 HP || || || 13.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Striker#Mobility|Striker]] || 332 HP || 363 HP || || || 13.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Challenger Mk.3#Mobility|Challenger Mk.3]] || || || 65.5t || 65.0t || 13.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Challenger 2#Mobility|Challenger 2]] || || || 62.5t || 61.4t || 13.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Stormer HVM#Mobility|Stormer HVM]] || 437 HP || 477 HP || || || 13.03.2020
 
|}
 
|}
 +
[[Achilles (65 Rg.)]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
  
−
Turret empty: 66&nbsp;''(+48)''
+
[[Black Prince]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
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{{Clear}}
 
  
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=== Machine guns ===
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The weight discrepancy for [[Challenger 2]] comes from the fact that the add-on armor weight is removed twice. The add-on armor weight is most likely not counted in the total weight of the vehicle.
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<!--Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.-->
 
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{{main|Type 97 (7.7 mm)}}
 
  
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The Chi-Ha Kai has a [[Type 97 tank (7.7 mm)|7.7 mm Type 97]] machine gun mounted on the left side of the hull. While it has enough ammunition, this machine gun is just simply not good enough. The rate of fire is below average, the penetration is bad, it can only fire forward, and there are only about 25 bullets in each magazine, making it impossible to provide a continuous machine-gun fire. The one thing this machine gun can do is to incapacitate the fully exposed crews on some vehicles, as even a bit of armour might block out the weak bullets.
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=== Japanese tree (finished)===
 +
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 +
|-
 +
! rowspan="2" | Vehicle || colspan="2" | AB Engine upgraded || colspan="2" | Weight || rowspan="2" | Date
 +
|-
 +
! In-game !! Wiki !! In-game !! Wiki
 +
|-
 +
| [[Ha-Go#Mobility|Ha-Go]] || 160 HP || 229 HP || || || 15.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[I-Go Ko#Mobility|I-Go Ko]] || || || 11.1t || 11.5t || 15.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Ho-Ro#Mobility|Ho-Ro]] || 297 HP || 324 HP || 14.8t || 15.0t || 15.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Type 94#Mobility|Type 94]] || 119 HP || 130 HP || || || 15.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Ha-Go Commander#Mobility|Ha-Go Commander]] || 160 HP || 229 HP || || || 15.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Ke-Ni#Mobility|Ke-Ni]] || 173 HP || 248 HP || 7.0t || 7.2t || 15.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Chi-Ha#Mobility|Chi-Ha]] || || || 14.8t || 15.0t || 15.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Ro-Go#Mobility|Ro-Go]] || 461 HP || 553 HP || || || 15.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Ka-Mi#Mobility|Ka-Mi]] || 153 HP || 219 HP || || || 15.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Chi-Ha Kai#Mobility|Chi-Ha Kai]] || || || 14.8t || 15.0t || 15.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Ho-Ni I#Mobility|Ho-Ni I]] || || || 14.8t || 15.0t || 16.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Ta-Se#Mobility|Ta-Se]] || 168 HP || 248 HP || 7.0t || 7.2t || 16.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Chi-Ha Short Gun#Mobility|Chi-Ha Short Gun]] || || || 14.8t || 15.0t || 16.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Ho-Ni III#Mobility|Ho-Ni III]] || 297 HP || 324 HP || 16.8t || 17.0t || 16.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Na-To#Mobility|Na-To]] || 289 HP || 315 HP || || || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[So-Ki#Mobility|So-Ki]] || 168 HP || 248 HP || 7.0t || 7.2t || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Chi-Nu II#Mobility|Chi-Nu II]] || || || 19.8t || 20.0t || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Heavy Tank No.6 (Japan)#Mobility|Heavy Tank No.6 (Japan)]] || 1113 HP || 1336 HP || || || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[ST-A1#Mobility|ST-A1]] || || || 34.2t || 34.0t || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[ST-A2#Mobility|ST-A2]] || || || 34.2t || 34.0t || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Ho-Ri Production#Mobility|Ho-Ri Production]] || 1924 HP || 2099 HP || || || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[M42 (Japan)#Mobility|M42 (Japan)]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || || || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Ho-Ri Prototype#Mobility|Ho-Ri Prototype]] || 961 HP || 1049 HP || || || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Type 60 SPRG (C)#Mobility|Type 60 SPRG (C)]] || 262 HP || 286 HP || 7.7t || 8.0t || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Type 60 ATM#Mobility|Type 60 ATM]] || 385 HP || 420 HP || || || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[STB-1#Mobility|STB-1]] || || || 37.8t || 38.0t || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Type 75 SPH#Mobility|Type 75 SPH]] || 786 HP || 859 HP || || || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Type 75 MLRS#Mobility|Type 75 MLRS]] || 525 HP || 572 HP || || || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Type 87#Mobility|Type 87]] || 1259 HP || 1374 HP || || || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Type 74G#Mobility|Type 74G]] || || || 37.3t || 38.5t || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Type 90#Mobility|Type 90]] || 2500 HP || 2862 HP || || || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Type 16#Mobility|Type 16]] || 997 HP || 1088 HP || || || 18.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Type 90 (B)#Mobility|Type 90 (B)]] || 2500 HP || 2862 HP || || || 18.03.2020
 +
|}
 +
[[Heavy Tank No.6 (Japan)]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
  
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== Usage in battles ==
+
[[Ho-Ri Prototype]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
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<!--Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).-->
 
  
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The Chi-Ha Kai is best used as a front line support vehicle. Although it has its down sides, a player who knows this tank well can utilise its interesting potentials. Stay close to your teammates, and try to use its maneuverability to flank the enemies when possible, while being careful and sneaky as it can be one-shotted by a lot of tanks.  
+
=== Italian tree (finished)===
 +
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 +
|-
 +
! rowspan="2" | Vehicle || colspan="2" | AB Engine upgraded || colspan="2" | Weight || rowspan="2" | Date
 +
|-
 +
! In-game !! Wiki !! In-game !! Wiki
 +
|-
 +
| [[M13/40 (I)#Mobility|M13/40 (I)]] || || || 13.6t || 14.0t || 19.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[M13/40 (III)#Mobility|M13/40 (III)]] || || || 13.6t || 14.0t || 19.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[AS42#Mobility|AS42]] || 192 HP || 210 HP || || || 19.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[L3/33 CC#Mobility|L3/33 CC]] || 75 HP || 82 HP || || || 19.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[M13/40 (II)#Mobility|M13/40 (II)]] || || || 13.6t || 14.0t || 19.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[47/32 L40#Mobility|47/32 L40]] || 119 HP || 130 HP || || || 19.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[M42 (Italy)#Mobility|M42 (Italy)]] || 324 HP || 353 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[75/18 M41#Mobility|75/18 M41]] || 280 HP || 305 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[75/32 M41#Mobility|75/32 M41]] || 280 HP || 305 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[90/53 M41M#Mobility|90/53 M41M]] || 280 HP || 305 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[75/34 M42#Mobility|75/34 M42]] || 324 HP || 353 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Breda 501#Mobility|Breda 501]] || 248 HP || 271 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[R3 T20 FA-HS#Mobility|R3 T20 FA-HS]] || 166 HP || 181 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[105/25 M43#Mobility|105/25 M43]] || 324 HP || 353 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[M43 "G.C.Leoncello"#Mobility|M43 "G.C.Leoncello"]] || 324 HP || 353 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[75/34 M43#Mobility|75/34 M43]] || 324 HP || 353 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[75/46 M43#Mobility|75/46 M43]] || 324 HP || 353 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[FIAT 6614#Mobility|FIAT 6614]] || || || 8.2t || 8.5t || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[M36B1#Mobility|M36B1]] || 786 HP || 859 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[AUBL/74#Mobility|AUBL/74]] || || || 8.2t || 8.5t || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[SIDAM 25#Mobility|SIDAM 25]] || 371 HP || 404 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[M113A1 (TOW)#Mobility|M113A1 (TOW)]] || 376 HP || 410 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Centauro#Mobility|Centauro]] || 909 HP || 992 HP || 25.0t || 27.0t || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Centauro ROMOR#Mobility|Centauro ROMOR]] || 909 HP || 992 HP || 28.0t || 30.0t || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[OTOMATIC#Mobility|OTOMATIC]] || 1451 HP || 1584 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Ariete (P)#Mobility|Ariete (P)]] || 2167 HP || 2480 HP || 53.0t || 53.8t || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Centauro MGS#Mobility|Centauro MGS]] || 909 HP || 992 HP || 25.0t || 27.0t || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Ariete#Mobility|Ariete]] || 2167 HP || 2480 HP || 52.0+1.0t || 53.8t || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[SIDAM 25 (Mistral)#Mobility|SIDAM 25 (Mistral)]] || 371 HP || 404 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|-
 +
| [[Ariete PSO#Mobility|Ariete PSO]] || 2167 HP || 2480 HP || || || 20.03.2020
 +
|}
 +
[[M60A1 "D.C.Ariete"]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
  
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For two types of terrains, there are two good tactics for the Chi-ha Kai. The first is commonly known as the hull-down position, best suited for hilly terrains. It requires you to find a slope/hill to cover up your hull, only exposing a small area of the turret and use the amazing gun depression to shoot the enemies. This way it is hard for the enemies to accurately hit your small turret while you lay behind the hill and fire comfortable shots at them.  
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=== French tree (finished)===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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| [[AMC.34 YR#Mobility|AMC.34 YR]] || 160 HP || 229 HP || || || 21.03.2020
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| [[H.35#Mobility|H.35]] || 100 HP || 143 HP || || || 21.03.2020
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| [[P.7.T AA#Mobility|P.7.T AA]] || 35 HP || 38 HP || || || 21.03.2020
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| [[AMR.35 ZT3#Mobility|AMR.35 ZT3]] || 143 HP || 156 HP || || || 21.03.2020
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| [[H.39 "Cambronne"#Mobility|H.39 "Cambronne"]] || 160 HP || 229 HP || || || 21.03.2020
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| [[H.39#Mobility|H.39]] || 160 HP || 229 HP || || || 21.03.2020
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| [[R.35 (SA38)#Mobility|R.35 (SA38)]] || 109 HP || 156 HP || || || 21.03.2020
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| [[AMC.35 (ACG.1)#Mobility|AMC.35 (ACG.1)]] || 240 HP || 343 HP || || || 21.03.2020
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| [[B1 bis#Mobility|B1 bis]] || 488 HP || 586 HP ||  ||  || 21.03.2020
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| [[SAu 40#Mobility|SAu 40]] || 332 HP || 363 HP ||  ||  || 21.03.2020
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| [[B1 ter#Mobility|B1 ter]] || 556 HP || 668 HP ||  ||  || 21.03.2020
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| [[M10 GMC (France)#Mobility|M10 GMC (France)]] || 717 HP || 782 HP ||  ||  || 21.03.2020
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| [[ARL-44 (ACL-1)#Mobility|ARL-44 (ACL-1)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  || 21.03.2020
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| [[CCKW 353 AA#Mobility|CCKW 353 AA]] || 164 HP || 179 HP ||  ||  || 21.03.2020
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| [[ARL-44#Mobility|ARL-44]] || 1049 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  || 21.03.2020
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| [[Lorraine 155 Mle.50#Mobility|Lorraine 155 Mle.50]] || 787 HP || 859 HP ||  ||  || 21.03.2020
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| [[M4A3E2 (France)#Mobility|M4A3E2 (France)]] || 795 HP || 954 HP ||  ||  || 21.03.2020
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| [[AMX-13 DCA 40#Mobility|AMX-13 DCA 40]] || 372 HP || 515 HP || || || 22.03.2020
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| [[CA Lorraine#Mobility|CA Lorraine]] || 1198 HP || 1307 HP || || || 22.03.2020
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| [[AMX-50 Surbaisse#Mobility|AMX-50 Surbaisse]] || 1351 HP || 1622 HP || || || 22.03.2020
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| [[AMX-30 DCA#Mobility|AMX-30 DCA]] || 1224 HP || 1336 HP || || || 22.03.2020
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| [[AMX-50 Foch#Mobility|AMX-50 Foch]] || 1748 HP || 1908 HP || || || 22.03.2020
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| [[AMX 50 Surblinde#Mobility|AMX 50 Surblinde]] || 1590 HP || 1908 HP || || || 22.03.2020
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| [[AMX-10RC#Mobility|AMX-10RC]] || 490 HP || 534 HP || || || 22.03.2020
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| [[Leclerc#Mobility|Leclerc]] || || || 53.7t || 54.6t || 22.03.2020
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| [[Roland 1#Mobility|Roland 1]] || 1260 HP || 1374 HP || || || 22.03.2020
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The next tactic is better in the towns, involving the use of your stabiliser. Travel in the areas where the enemies are most likely to appear while looking around. If you see an enemy, move out of cover at about 10 km/h (the stabiliser will only work if the tank is slower than 11 km/h), quickly aim and shoot while keeping the tank moving. For the enemy it is very hard to keep his guns on you if you are moving, but for you, with the gun being stabilised, it is pretty much as accurate as firing stationary, making targeting the enemy much easier than vice-versa. The stabiliser will also surprise you in a close-quarter encounter as you will be ready to fire first while the enemy is still waiting for his gun to stop wobbling.
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| [[M8 LAC (China)#Mobility|M8 LAC (China)]] || 159 HP || 210 HP || || || 22.03.2020
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| [[M8 HMC (China)#Mobility|M8 HMC (China)]] || 518 HP || 565 HP || || || 22.03.2020
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| [[Chi-Ha (China)#Mobility|Chi-Ha (China)]] || || || 14.8t || 15.0t || 22.03.2020
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| [[LVT(A)(4) (ZiS-2) (China)#Mobility|LVT(A)(4) (ZiS-2) (China)]] || 437 HP || 477 HP || || || 22.03.2020
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* Weak armour
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{{Sp-end}}
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* Shells drop a lot at long distances
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Is there a way to correct that? --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 20:29, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
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: Hello. The R3 T106 FA discrepancy is due to a difference in rounding strategies between the wiki and the game. Any values that are automatically inserted and seem to be off by +- 1 on the last digit are likely just rounding errors, and I'm not sure how much can be done to remedy them. As for the other values, I will see if we can get the database maintainer to check/correct the values. Could you check your values for M4 Tipo IC, as they don't seem to agree with either the game or the wiki. -[[User:U38088265|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265|talk]]) 22:22, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
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== History ==
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:: My bad, it was the Breda 501 and not the M4 tipo Ic. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 22:52, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
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::: I added the next discrepancies I found to the list. HP values are for Arcade Spaded. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 13:49, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
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::::This is the guy in charge of the numbers [[User:U36063762]]--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 00:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
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'''<big>PLA's first tank</big>'''
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::::There's nothing wrong with continuing updating the list here, however (unless DnaGonite is getting annoyed by the new talk notifications). The list has already been forwarded for investigation.--[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 08:31, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
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::::: I updated the whole US tree but I do not have vehicles at BR 6.7 and above upgraded so I still reported the discrepancies I noticed at those tiers but I can't confirm them. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 14:31, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
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The Chi-ha Kai was the first tank ever used by the Chinese PLA (People's Liberation Army), alongside with many other captured Japanese tanks. These Chi-ha tanks significantly assisted the PLA in attacking the KMT (Chinese Nationalist party), with the most famous battle being the Battle of Jinzhou involving the Gongchen tank.  
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:::::: Thanks for all your hard work! But how do you know they are discrepancies if you don't have them spaded? -[[User:U38088265|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265|talk]]) 15:08, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
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::::::: Based on the numbers that were in the wiki already, the fact that many tanks use the same engine (M60 family, M1 family, etc.) and the fact that the difference between HP Stock and Upgraded is a multiplier of around 1.23. But feel free to recheck the end of the list or have it rechecked by someone owning the tanks. I have everything spaded until BR 6.3 included (and also the T30). --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 15:42, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
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Other than the Gongchen tank, lots of other Chi-ha Kai tanks were also used extensively by the PLA and the KMT, based on the photos of the victory parade in 1949.
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:::::::: I've noticed that [[User:U8741044]] removes the mobility tables from tank articles. it was already done for 2 articles: [[M11/39]] & [[47/32_L40]]. It went unnoticed because he sets his own modifications as approved. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 20:47, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
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@Colok could you recheck your values for the [[R3 T106 FA]]? I don't have the vehicle so I don't what the specs are spaded, but my stock rb is 84 hp instead of your 115 hp... - [[User:U38088265|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265|talk]]) 00:07, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
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<big>'''The Gongchen'''</big>
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: I confused HP and km/h even though I checked it twice because it seemed weird, I corrected it on the R3 T106 FA's page and removed it from the table above. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 09:16, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
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In September 1945, the Chinese Communist forces discovered two Chi-ha tanks abandoned by the Japanese in Shenyang. There were some captured Japanese engineers among them. While the Chinese were trying to drive these tanks back to their area, the Japanese engineers eventually rebelled and sabotaged one of the Chi-ha tanks, leaving the Chinese with only one left, designated "102", which would later become the Gongchen tank.  
 
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Soon after the tank was safe, the Northeast Special Tank Brigade was established with 30 soldiers and the "102" Chi-ha as the only tank. The soldiers called it the ''"Old man tank"'' since the model was old but still sturdy, respectable and it trained many tank drivers.
 
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In October 1948, the battle of Jinzhou began. The Chinese had the "102" Chi-ha at the back of its line to bring up the rear. The heavy fire from the KMT blocked the Communist forces from advancing, and several of its tanks were also damaged early in the battle. The "102" Chi-ha changed its direction to avoid the KMT fire, crossed the trenches, ran over the barbed wires in front of it and led a charge with the infantries to the KMT's front line. It destroyed several of the KMT's fortresses to clear the way for more infantries. During the battle the tank did get damaged and could no longer drive. Under dangerous KMT fire, the driver Dong Laifu got out and repaired the tank in a hurry so it was again operational. Gradually the "102" Chi-ha went from staying at the back to being the leading tank, always the first to charge the KMT's positions.
 
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After the battle, the "102" Chi-ha was renamed "Gongchen tank" (功臣號, meaning "Heroic tank") for its excellent performance in the battle. It also honorably led the victory parade at Tiananmen Square on 1st October 1949. Retired in 1959, the tank is now displayed in the Military Museum of the Chinese People's Revolution in Beijing.
 
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== Media ==
 
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Few days back I added Penetration statistics and Shell details to [[:3 inch Mk.33 (76 mm)|3 inch Mk.33 (76 mm)]]. I want to ask If that is right way or I should add it directly to correct armament section on vehicle page that is using it? Same like tanks. Thanks -[[User:U6133915|U6133915]] ([[User talk:U6133915|talk]]) 07:03, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
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: I don't see any harm in adding to both pages. The weapon pages are designed to be a more detailed overview of the weapon, but it's still useful information to be able to see when looking at a specific vehicle. The only problem I could see is if the ship has large amounts of different secondary/anti-air armaments, in which case the tables may overly bloat the page, but that shouldn't apply to the large majority of vehicles. -[[User:U38088265|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265|talk]]) 10:17, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
  
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I'd like to create a category: Multi-turreted tanks. Is it OK? How do I do to create such a category? (I tried adding it to an article, thinking it would de facto create a category page). --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 15:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
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: Hello Colok. Vehicle categories should already be automatically inputted into the page via the spec card template at the top. These categories represent what the vehicle is classified as in the game at the time. Creation of custom categories for these vehicle pages or branching existing ones vehicles that are not classified in those categories in the game are generally discouraged. However, the creation of a template table to categorize such vehicles is not out of the question, similar to how we have manufacturer template tables for plane. This can be arranged to have one created for multi-turreted tanks. If you have complications in making one, we can assist in having one made in the future. --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 18:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
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:: Hello, thanks for the answer. I am fine with a simple Wiki page if categories must reflect in-game classification. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 19:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

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Hello, I've been using the Mobility Template Template:TankMobility lately but I've noticed a lot of discrepancies between in-game values and the wiki.


Discrepancies as of 08.03.20

US tree (finished)

Vehicle AB Engine upgraded Weight Date
In-game Wiki In-game Wiki
M13 MGMC 259 HP 282 HP
M3 GMC 259 HP 282 HP
M16 MGMC 259 HP 282 HP
M8 Greyhound 159 HP 210 HP
M10 GMC 717 HP 782 HP
LVT(A)(4) ZIS-2 (USA) 437 HP 477 HP
M6A1 1272 HP 1526 HP
M15A1 CGMC 259 HP 282 HP
M18 GMC 804 HP 878 HP
M4A3E2 795 HP 954 HP
M18 "Black Cat" 804 HP 878 HP
Cobra King 795 HP 954 HP
M4A3E2 (76) W 795 HP 954 HP
M19 518 HP 565 HP
M36 GMC 874 HP 954 HP
M56 350 HP 382 HP
T26E1-1 795 HP 954 HP
Super Hellcat 804 HP 878 HP
T34 1287 HP 1545 HP 65.8t 65.1t
T29 1224 HP 1469 HP
T30 1287 HP 1545 HP 65.8t 65.1t
T32 1228 HP 1469 HP
T32E1 1228 HP 1469 HP
M42 874 HP 954 HP
T95 874 HP 954 HP
T114 280 HP 305 HP
M103 1287 HP 1545 HP
M163 11.0t 11.2t
M247 1310 HP 1431 HP
XM-803 2356 HP 2385 HP
M1 Abrams 2533 HP 2898 HP
IPM1 2533 HP 2898 HP
M1A1 Abrams 2533 HP 2898 HP
ADATS 23.7t 25.0t
M1A2 Abrams 2533 HP 2898 HP

XM-1 (Chrysler) couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.

German tree (finished)

Vehicle AB Engine upgraded Weight
In-game Wiki In-game Wiki
Pz.III B 334 HP 477 HP
Flakpanzer I 100 HP 109 HP
Panzerjager I 175 HP 191 HP
Flakpanzer 38 262 HP 286 HP
Sd.Kfz.234/3 367 HP 401 HP
15cm sIG 33 B Sfl 271 HP 296 HP
Pz.III J 21.8t 21.3t
StuG III A 525 HP 572 HP
Pz.III J1 21.8t 21.3t
Sd.Kfz. 6/2 201 HP 219 HP
StuH 42 G 525 HP 572 HP
Sd.Kfz.234/4 367 HP 401 HP
Marder III 280 HP 305 HP
Marder III H 262 HP 286 HP
StuG III F 525 HP 572 HP
8,8 cm Flak 37 Sfl. 402 HP 439 HP 24.3t 25.0t
StuG III G 525 HP 572 HP
15 cm Pz.W.42 119 HP 130 HP
Dicker Max 315 HP 343 HP
Tiger H1 1033 HP 1240 HP
Wirbelwind 525 HP 572 HP
Jagdpanzer 38(t) 280 HP 305 HP
KV-IB (Germany) 954 HP 1145 HP
Sturer Emil 542 HP 591 HP
Tiger E 1133 HP 1336 HP
Ostwind 525 HP 572 HP
Jagdpanzer IV 525 HP 572 HP
KV II 754 (r) (Germany) 954 HP 1145 HP
Pz.Kpfw. Churchill (Germany) 556 HP 668 HP
Nashorn 525 HP 572 HP 24.3t 23.5t
Panzer IV/70(V) 525 HP 572 HP
Panzer IV/70(A) 525 HP 572 HP
Brummbar 463 HP 506 HP 27.8t 28.2t
VFW 630 HP 687 HP
KV I C 756 (r) (Germany) 954 HP 1145 HP
VK 45.01 (P) 984 HP 1183 HP
Tiger (Germany) 1033 HP 1240 HP
Waffentrager 245 HP 267 HP 16.3t 17.0t
Tiger II (P) 1113 HP 1336 HP
Ostwind II 525 HP 572 HP
Jagdpanther 1224 HP 1336 HP
Bfw. Jagdpanther 1224 HP 1336 HP
Tiger II (H) Sla.16 1191 HP 1431 HP
Tiger II (H) 1113 HP 1336 HP
Ferdinand 926 HP 1011 HP
Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P 841 HP 1011 HP
Flakpanzer 341 1048 HP 1145 HP
JPz 4-5 874 HP 954 HP
Kugelblitz 525 HP 572 HP
Jagdtiger 1224 HP 1336 HP
Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K) 1431 HP 1717 HP
E-100 1431 HP 1717 HP
Maus 1905 HP 2290 HP
RakJPz 2 874 HP 954 HP
RakJPz 2 (HOT) 874 HP 954 HP
Gepard 1450 HP 1584 HP
VT1-2  ???? HP 4197 HP
Leopard 2K 2500 HP 2862 HP
Leopard 2A4 2500 HP 2862 HP
Leopard 2A5 2500 HP 2862 HP
FlaRakPz 1 1048 HP 1145 HP

M4 748 (a) (Germany) couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.

Soviet tree (finished)

Vehicle AB Engine upgraded Weight Date
In-game Wiki In-game Wiki
BT-5 487 HP 696 HP
SU-5-1 157 HP 172 HP
GAZ-AAA (4M) 100 HP 109 HP
GAZ-AAA (DShK) 100 HP 109 HP
T-35 795 HP 954 HP
SU-57 259 HP 282 HP
BM-8-24 133 HP 145 HP
T-III (USSR) 21.8t 21.3t
ZiS-30 87 HP 95 HP
GAZ-MM (72-K) 100 HP 109 HP
BM-13N 164 HP 179 HP
KV-1 (L-11) 954 HP 1145 HP
SU-76M 245 HP 267 HP
BTR-152A 192 HP 210 HP
SU-76M (5th Gv.Kav.Corps) 245 HP 267 HP
KV-1S 954 HP 1145 HP 41.4t 42.5t
SU-122 874 HP 954 HP
ZiS-12 (94-KM) 122 HP 134 HP 3.0t 7.0t
MK-II "Matilda" (USSR) 302 HP 363 HP
ZUT-37 297 HP 324 HP
SU-85A 245 HP 267 HP
SMK 1351 HP 1622 HP
KV-1 (ZiS-5) 954 HP 1145 HP
ASU-57 96 HP 105 HP
SU-57B 182 HP 198 HP
YaG-10 (29-K) 164 HP 177 HP
KV-2 (1940) 954 HP 1145 HP
KV-2 (1939) 954 HP 1145 HP
KV-85 954 HP 1145 HP
SU-85 874 HP 954 HP
SU-85M 874 HP 954 HP
ZiS-43 157 HP 172 HP
SU-100Y 1486 HP 162 HP
IS-1 827 HP 992 HP
SU-152 1049 HP 1145 HP
KV-2 (ZiS-6) 954 HP 1145 HP
KV-1E 954 HP 1145 HP
Type 65 (USSR) 874 HP 954 HP
KV-220 1351 HP 1622 HP
ISU-152 909 HP 992 HP
ZSU-37 245 HP 267 HP
KV-122 827 HP 992 HP

T-34 (Prototype) couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.

T-34 (1st Gv.T.Br.) couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.

T-34-85E couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.


Discrepancies in progress
Vehicle AB Engine upgraded Weight Date
In-game Wiki In-game Wiki
IS-2 827 HP 992 HP 09.03.2020
IS-2 (1944) 827 HP 992 HP 09.03.2020
ASU-85 367 HP 401 HP 09.03.2020
ISU-122 909 HP 992 HP 09.03.2020
ISU-122S 909 HP 992 HP 09.03.2020
SU-100P 699 HP 763 HP 09.03.2020
SU-100 874 HP 954 HP 09.03.2020
SU-122P 874 HP 954 HP 09.03.2020
IS-2 "Revenge" 827 HP 992 HP 09.03.2020
Type 62 (USSR) 20.5t 20.3t 09.03.2020
IS-6 1113 HP 1336 HP 51.1t 51.4t 09.03.2020
IS-3 827 HP 992 HP 10.03.2020
SU-122-54 909 HP 992 HP 10.03.2020
ZSU-57-2 909 HP 992 HP 10.03.2020
Object 120 839 HP 916 HP 26.8t 27.0t 10.03.2020
IS-7 1669 HP 2003 HP 10.03.2020
IS-4M 1192 HP 1431 HP 10.03.2020
Object 268 1310 HP 1431 HP 10.03.2020
T-10M 1192 HP 1431 HP 11.03.2020
Object 906 14.8t 15.0t 11.03.2020
ZSU-23-4 490 HP 534 HP 20.7t 21.0t 11.03.2020
BMP-2 14.0t 13.2t 11.03.2020
Shturm-S 420 HP 458 HP 11.03.2020
T-64B 40.1t 39.0t 11.03.2020
T-72A 41.0t 40.2t 11.03.2020
T-80B 42.5t 42.0t 11.03.2020
ZPRK 2S6 1240 HP 1355 HP 34.6t 34.0t 11.03.2020

The weight discrepancy for BMP-2, T-64B, T-72A and T-80B comes from the fact that the add-on armor weight is removed twice. The add-on armor weight is most likely not counted in the total weight of the vehicle.

British tree (finished)

Vehicle AB Engine upgraded Weight Date
In-game Wiki In-game Wiki
Mk.VIA AA 154 HP 168 HP 11.03.2020
Daimler AC Mk.II 137 HP 181 HP 12.03.2020
T17E2 339 HP 370 HP 12.03.2020
Independent 588 HP 706 HP 32.0t 31.7t 12.03.2020
Matilda III 302 HP 363 HP 12.03.2020
AC Mk II AA 276 HP 301 HP 12.03.2020
Cromwell Mk.V (RP-3) 28.2t 28.4t 12.03.2020
3 inch Gun Carrier 612 HP 668 HP 12.03.2020
Churchill Mk I 556 HP 668 HP 12.03.2020
Archer 336 HP 366 HP 12.03.2020
Churchill Mk III 556 HP 668 HP 12.03.2020
Achilles 717 HP 782 HP 12.03.2020
Crusader AA Mk II 595 HP 649 HP 12.03.2020
Churchill Mk VII 556 HP 668 HP 12.03.2020
Excelsior 997 HP 1198 HP 12.03.2020
QF 3.7 Ram 699 HP 763 HP 12.03.2020
FV4202 37.0t 37.2t 12.03.2020
Charioteer Mk VII 1049 HP 1145 HP 12.03.2020
Crusader AA Mk I 595 HP 649 HP 12.03.2020
Black Prince 556 HP 668 HP 12.03.2020
Caernarvon 1287 HP 1545 HP 12.03.2020
Tortoise 1137 HP 1240 HP 12.03.2020
FV4005 1137 HP 1240 HP 59.5t 60.0t 12.03.2020
Conway 1110 HP 1212 HP 13.03.2020
Falcon 372 HP 406 HP 13.03.2020
Conqueror 1287 HP 1545 HP 13.03.2020
Swingfire 420 HP 458 HP 15.9t 16.2t 13.03.2020
Chieftain Marksman 1328 HP 1450 HP 13.03.2020
Rooikat 105 991 HP 1082 HP 19.03.2020
Vickers Mk.7 2500 HP 2862 HP 13.03.2020
Striker 332 HP 363 HP 13.03.2020
Challenger Mk.3 65.5t 65.0t 13.03.2020
Challenger 2 62.5t 61.4t 13.03.2020
Stormer HVM 437 HP 477 HP 13.03.2020

Achilles (65 Rg.) couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.

Black Prince couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.

The weight discrepancy for Challenger 2 comes from the fact that the add-on armor weight is removed twice. The add-on armor weight is most likely not counted in the total weight of the vehicle.

Japanese tree (finished)

Vehicle AB Engine upgraded Weight Date
In-game Wiki In-game Wiki
Ha-Go 160 HP 229 HP 15.03.2020
I-Go Ko 11.1t 11.5t 15.03.2020
Ho-Ro 297 HP 324 HP 14.8t 15.0t 15.03.2020
Type 94 119 HP 130 HP 15.03.2020
Ha-Go Commander 160 HP 229 HP 15.03.2020
Ke-Ni 173 HP 248 HP 7.0t 7.2t 15.03.2020
Chi-Ha 14.8t 15.0t 15.03.2020
Ro-Go 461 HP 553 HP 15.03.2020
Ka-Mi 153 HP 219 HP 15.03.2020
Chi-Ha Kai 14.8t 15.0t 15.03.2020
Ho-Ni I 14.8t 15.0t 16.03.2020
Ta-Se 168 HP 248 HP 7.0t 7.2t 16.03.2020
Chi-Ha Short Gun 14.8t 15.0t 16.03.2020
Ho-Ni III 297 HP 324 HP 16.8t 17.0t 16.03.2020
Na-To 289 HP 315 HP 18.03.2020
So-Ki 168 HP 248 HP 7.0t 7.2t 18.03.2020
Chi-Nu II 19.8t 20.0t 18.03.2020
Heavy Tank No.6 (Japan) 1113 HP 1336 HP 18.03.2020
ST-A1 34.2t 34.0t 18.03.2020
ST-A2 34.2t 34.0t 18.03.2020
Ho-Ri Production 1924 HP 2099 HP 18.03.2020
M42 (Japan) 874 HP 954 HP 18.03.2020
Ho-Ri Prototype 961 HP 1049 HP 18.03.2020
Type 60 SPRG (C) 262 HP 286 HP 7.7t 8.0t 18.03.2020
Type 60 ATM 385 HP 420 HP 18.03.2020
STB-1 37.8t 38.0t 18.03.2020
Type 75 SPH 786 HP 859 HP 18.03.2020
Type 75 MLRS 525 HP 572 HP 18.03.2020
Type 87 1259 HP 1374 HP 18.03.2020
Type 74G 37.3t 38.5t 18.03.2020
Type 90 2500 HP 2862 HP 18.03.2020
Type 16 997 HP 1088 HP 18.03.2020
Type 90 (B) 2500 HP 2862 HP 18.03.2020

Heavy Tank No.6 (Japan) couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.

Ho-Ri Prototype couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.

Italian tree (finished)

Vehicle AB Engine upgraded Weight Date
In-game Wiki In-game Wiki
M13/40 (I) 13.6t 14.0t 19.03.2020
M13/40 (III) 13.6t 14.0t 19.03.2020
AS42 192 HP 210 HP 19.03.2020
L3/33 CC 75 HP 82 HP 19.03.2020
M13/40 (II) 13.6t 14.0t 19.03.2020
47/32 L40 119 HP 130 HP 19.03.2020
M42 (Italy) 324 HP 353 HP 20.03.2020
75/18 M41 280 HP 305 HP 20.03.2020
75/32 M41 280 HP 305 HP 20.03.2020
90/53 M41M 280 HP 305 HP 20.03.2020
75/34 M42 324 HP 353 HP 20.03.2020
Breda 501 248 HP 271 HP 20.03.2020
R3 T20 FA-HS 166 HP 181 HP 20.03.2020
105/25 M43 324 HP 353 HP 20.03.2020
M43 "G.C.Leoncello" 324 HP 353 HP 20.03.2020
75/34 M43 324 HP 353 HP 20.03.2020
75/46 M43 324 HP 353 HP 20.03.2020
FIAT 6614 8.2t 8.5t 20.03.2020
M36B1 786 HP 859 HP 20.03.2020
AUBL/74 8.2t 8.5t 20.03.2020
SIDAM 25 371 HP 404 HP 20.03.2020
M113A1 (TOW) 376 HP 410 HP 20.03.2020
Centauro 909 HP 992 HP 25.0t 27.0t 20.03.2020
Centauro ROMOR 909 HP 992 HP 28.0t 30.0t 20.03.2020
OTOMATIC 1451 HP 1584 HP 20.03.2020
Ariete (P) 2167 HP 2480 HP 53.0t 53.8t 20.03.2020
Centauro MGS 909 HP 992 HP 25.0t 27.0t 20.03.2020
Ariete 2167 HP 2480 HP 52.0+1.0t 53.8t 20.03.2020
SIDAM 25 (Mistral) 371 HP 404 HP 20.03.2020
Ariete PSO 2167 HP 2480 HP 20.03.2020

M60A1 "D.C.Ariete" couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.

French tree (finished)

Vehicle AB Engine upgraded Weight Date
In-game Wiki In-game Wiki
AMC.34 YR 160 HP 229 HP 21.03.2020
H.35 100 HP 143 HP 21.03.2020
P.7.T AA 35 HP 38 HP 21.03.2020
AMR.35 ZT3 143 HP 156 HP 21.03.2020
H.39 "Cambronne" 160 HP 229 HP 21.03.2020
H.39 160 HP 229 HP 21.03.2020
R.35 (SA38) 109 HP 156 HP 21.03.2020
AMC.35 (ACG.1) 240 HP 343 HP 21.03.2020
B1 bis 488 HP 586 HP 21.03.2020
SAu 40 332 HP 363 HP 21.03.2020
B1 ter 556 HP 668 HP 21.03.2020
M10 GMC (France) 717 HP 782 HP 21.03.2020
ARL-44 (ACL-1) 954 HP 1145 HP 21.03.2020
CCKW 353 AA 164 HP 179 HP 21.03.2020
ARL-44 1049 HP 1145 HP 21.03.2020
Lorraine 155 Mle.50 787 HP 859 HP 21.03.2020
M4A3E2 (France) 795 HP 954 HP 21.03.2020
AMX-13 DCA 40 372 HP 515 HP 22.03.2020
CA Lorraine 1198 HP 1307 HP 22.03.2020
AMX-50 Surbaisse 1351 HP 1622 HP 22.03.2020
AMX-30 DCA 1224 HP 1336 HP 22.03.2020
AMX-50 Foch 1748 HP 1908 HP 22.03.2020
AMX 50 Surblinde 1590 HP 1908 HP 22.03.2020
AMX-10RC 490 HP 534 HP 22.03.2020
Leclerc 53.7t 54.6t 22.03.2020
Roland 1 1260 HP 1374 HP 22.03.2020

Chinese tree (in progress)

Vehicle AB Engine upgraded Weight Date
In-game Wiki In-game Wiki
M8 LAC (China) 159 HP 210 HP 22.03.2020
M8 HMC (China) 518 HP 565 HP 22.03.2020
Chi-Ha (China) 14.8t 15.0t 22.03.2020
LVT(A)(4) (ZiS-2) (China) 437 HP 477 HP 22.03.2020
Chi-Ha Kai (China) 14.8t 15.0t 22.03.2020

Is there a way to correct that? --Colok76286 (talk) 20:29, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello. The R3 T106 FA discrepancy is due to a difference in rounding strategies between the wiki and the game. Any values that are automatically inserted and seem to be off by +- 1 on the last digit are likely just rounding errors, and I'm not sure how much can be done to remedy them. As for the other values, I will see if we can get the database maintainer to check/correct the values. Could you check your values for M4 Tipo IC, as they don't seem to agree with either the game or the wiki. -DnaGonite (talk) 22:22, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
My bad, it was the Breda 501 and not the M4 tipo Ic. --Colok76286 (talk) 22:52, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
I added the next discrepancies I found to the list. HP values are for Arcade Spaded. --Colok76286 (talk) 13:49, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
This is the guy in charge of the numbers User:VolgaIgor--blastedryan (talk) 00:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
There's nothing wrong with continuing updating the list here, however (unless DnaGonite is getting annoyed by the new talk notifications). The list has already been forwarded for investigation.--Inceptor57 (talk) 08:31, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
I updated the whole US tree but I do not have vehicles at BR 6.7 and above upgraded so I still reported the discrepancies I noticed at those tiers but I can't confirm them. --Colok76286 (talk) 14:31, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for all your hard work! But how do you know they are discrepancies if you don't have them spaded? -DnaGonite (talk) 15:08, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Based on the numbers that were in the wiki already, the fact that many tanks use the same engine (M60 family, M1 family, etc.) and the fact that the difference between HP Stock and Upgraded is a multiplier of around 1.23. But feel free to recheck the end of the list or have it rechecked by someone owning the tanks. I have everything spaded until BR 6.3 included (and also the T30). --Colok76286 (talk) 15:42, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
I've noticed that User:Oxygen_Thief removes the mobility tables from tank articles. it was already done for 2 articles: M11/39 & 47/32_L40. It went unnoticed because he sets his own modifications as approved. --Colok76286 (talk) 20:47, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

@Colok could you recheck your values for the R3 T106 FA? I don't have the vehicle so I don't what the specs are spaded, but my stock rb is 84 hp instead of your 115 hp... - DnaGonite (talk) 00:07, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

I confused HP and km/h even though I checked it twice because it seemed weird, I corrected it on the R3 T106 FA's page and removed it from the table above. --Colok76286 (talk) 09:16, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Naval weapons charts

Few days back I added Penetration statistics and Shell details to 3 inch Mk.33 (76 mm). I want to ask If that is right way or I should add it directly to correct armament section on vehicle page that is using it? Same like tanks. Thanks -Vianočka (talk) 07:03, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

I don't see any harm in adding to both pages. The weapon pages are designed to be a more detailed overview of the weapon, but it's still useful information to be able to see when looking at a specific vehicle. The only problem I could see is if the ship has large amounts of different secondary/anti-air armaments, in which case the tables may overly bloat the page, but that shouldn't apply to the large majority of vehicles. -DnaGonite (talk) 10:17, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Creating a category

I'd like to create a category: Multi-turreted tanks. Is it OK? How do I do to create such a category? (I tried adding it to an article, thinking it would de facto create a category page). --Colok76286 (talk) 15:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello Colok. Vehicle categories should already be automatically inputted into the page via the spec card template at the top. These categories represent what the vehicle is classified as in the game at the time. Creation of custom categories for these vehicle pages or branching existing ones vehicles that are not classified in those categories in the game are generally discouraged. However, the creation of a template table to categorize such vehicles is not out of the question, similar to how we have manufacturer template tables for plane. This can be arranged to have one created for multi-turreted tanks. If you have complications in making one, we can assist in having one made in the future. --Inceptor57 (talk) 18:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Hello, thanks for the answer. I am fine with a simple Wiki page if categories must reflect in-game classification. --Colok76286 (talk) 19:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
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