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The C.205 Serie 1 is perhaps the most underrated rank III Italian fighter, most likely due to the underpowered armament which consists of 2x 12.7 mm and 2x 7.62 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun. This can be a serious problem since this fighter is BnZ fighter, meaning even a successful pass will badly cripple the target instead destroying it. Therefore, stick with teammates in order to support them. The C.205 Serie 1 works well when escorting the bomber.
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This fighter can climb fast for its rank and battle rating, thanks to DB 605-A which was installed in Bf 109 G-2, even in stock. The {{PAGENAME}} could climb up to 5,000 m in to seek enemy planes, but higher than 6,000-7,000 m is recommended for safest altitude. Use this advantage when retaining energy, to outrun enemies or gain altitude if the first pass failed and make up the second pass. Although the engine provides considerable manoeuvrability, one should not do excess dogfighting toward the target, as it will burn up energy faster. Never attempt to make a contact against well-manoeuvrable like the Spitfire and Yakovlev fighter, especially in the low altitude. Call teammates, then gain some altitude until the enemy cannot pursue. Use this chance to make a counter-attack and destroy the enemy. One thing to note, this plane can be tweaked its propeller pitch to the maximum value without blowing the engine, unlike all Bf series with same engine when using MEC.
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When in stock, the armament leaves much to be desired: low velocity has ball ammunition which limits the effectiveness of the weapon. Never attempt to head-on by any means; chances are the opponent's bullets will reach the C.205 before its own. One thing should be noticed: while the C.205 has a powerful engine at its battle rating, never intercept the bomber without teammates, especially when down-tiered. However, these machine guns quite effective against dive-bombers or low-flying bombers. Try to aim at the wing or the engine compartment for a desirable hit. Adjust the machine gun convergence at 250-300 m for better effectiveness. Also, load ammo with Air Target or Universal for .50 cal, and Stealth belt for .30 cal.
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Overall, C.205 Serie 1 is a support BnZ fighter with good climb rate, reasonably fast for its battle rating. While being overshadowed by underperformed armament among all the fighter, in the hand of a skilled player and following the rules, this became a bane among all the enemy fighter, even the bomber.
  
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''  
 
'''Pros:'''  
  
* Very fast for its BR
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* Arguably fast and nimble against any opponents at its battle rating, thanks to the engine from Bf 109 G-2
* Good climb rate
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* Tweaking the propeller pitch in MEC will not blown the engine, unlike the Bf series with same engine
* Good turn with flaps
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* Excellent energy retention and roll rate
* Good roll rate
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* Reasonable climb rate
 
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* Excellent high altitude performance
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* Insane straight-line acceleration
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Armament is lackluster, 12.7 mm can sometimes set fires but otherwise are not much goo
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* Inadequate armament at its tier, shots tend to only cripple your enemies instead destroy it
 
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* Hard to control during low speed and altitude
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* Any damage severely degrades aircraft functionality
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==

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This page is about the Italian fighter C. 205 serie 1. For other uses, see C.205 (Family).

Description

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The C. 205 serie 1 is a rank II Italian fighter with a battle rating of 3.3 (AB) and 3.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica" along with the initial Italian aviation tree.

General info

Flight Performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 7,000 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
658 641 10360 19.0 19.7 16.8 16.8 250
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 7,000 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
710 683 10360 17.0 18.0 25 20.4 250

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flaps
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
600 ~14 ~5
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 400 < 270 < 550 > 380
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
5,800 m 1,232 hp 1,387 hp

Survivability and armour

  • 8 mm Steel - Armored plate behind the pilot
  • 50 mm Bulletproof glass - Armored windscreen
  • Critical components located at the front of aircraft (pilot, engine, controls)
  • More fuel tanks located in wings near the fuselage
  • Fuel tank in the fuselage behind the pilot

Armaments

Offensive armament

The C. 205 serie 1 is armed with:

  • 2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)
  • 2 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, wing-mounted (500 rpg = 1,000 total)

Usage in battles

The C.205 Serie 1 is perhaps the most underrated rank III Italian fighter, most likely due to the underpowered armament which consists of 2x 12.7 mm and 2x 7.62 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun. This can be a serious problem since this fighter is BnZ fighter, meaning even a successful pass will badly cripple the target instead destroying it. Therefore, stick with teammates in order to support them. The C.205 Serie 1 works well when escorting the bomber.

This fighter can climb fast for its rank and battle rating, thanks to DB 605-A which was installed in Bf 109 G-2, even in stock. The C. 205 serie 1 could climb up to 5,000 m in to seek enemy planes, but higher than 6,000-7,000 m is recommended for safest altitude. Use this advantage when retaining energy, to outrun enemies or gain altitude if the first pass failed and make up the second pass. Although the engine provides considerable manoeuvrability, one should not do excess dogfighting toward the target, as it will burn up energy faster. Never attempt to make a contact against well-manoeuvrable like the Spitfire and Yakovlev fighter, especially in the low altitude. Call teammates, then gain some altitude until the enemy cannot pursue. Use this chance to make a counter-attack and destroy the enemy. One thing to note, this plane can be tweaked its propeller pitch to the maximum value without blowing the engine, unlike all Bf series with same engine when using MEC.

When in stock, the armament leaves much to be desired: low velocity has ball ammunition which limits the effectiveness of the weapon. Never attempt to head-on by any means; chances are the opponent's bullets will reach the C.205 before its own. One thing should be noticed: while the C.205 has a powerful engine at its battle rating, never intercept the bomber without teammates, especially when down-tiered. However, these machine guns quite effective against dive-bombers or low-flying bombers. Try to aim at the wing or the engine compartment for a desirable hit. Adjust the machine gun convergence at 250-300 m for better effectiveness. Also, load ammo with Air Target or Universal for .50 cal, and Stealth belt for .30 cal.

Overall, C.205 Serie 1 is a support BnZ fighter with good climb rate, reasonably fast for its battle rating. While being overshadowed by underperformed armament among all the fighter, in the hand of a skilled player and following the rules, this became a bane among all the enemy fighter, even the bomber.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled
Not controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Separate Not controllable
1 gear
Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Radiator Offensive 7 mm
II Compressor Airframe New 7 mm MGs
III Wings repair Engine Offensive 12 mm
IV Engine injection Cover New 12 mm MGs

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Arguably fast and nimble against any opponents at its battle rating, thanks to the engine from Bf 109 G-2
  • Tweaking the propeller pitch in MEC will not blown the engine, unlike the Bf series with same engine
  • Excellent energy retention and roll rate
  • Reasonable climb rate
  • Excellent high altitude performance
  • Insane straight-line acceleration

Cons:

  • Inadequate armament at its tier, shots tend to only cripple your enemies instead destroy it
  • Hard to control during low speed and altitude
  • Any damage severely degrades aircraft functionality

History

The last Italian fighters of the war (the Serie 5, or "third-generation") all used the new German Daimler Benz 605 engine, putting them on a par with the best mid-war aircraft. The M.C. 205 was the only one of the Serie 5's to see much service with the Italian air force. The prototype, based on the M.C. 202, first flew in April, 1942. The added power allowed it to become the first Italian aircraft with cannon armament in the wings. It was considered extremely maneuverable at middle and low altitudes. About 200 were built and delivered starting in October, 1942, seeing combat service in the Mediterranean and Sicily the next year. Another 112 were built after the armistice and delivered to Fascist Italian forces, who used the plane until summer, 1944. Others continued on in Allied use and after the war remained in service as combat fighters until 1947.

Media

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See also

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  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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Macchi Aeronautics (Macchi Aeronautica)
Fighters  C. 200 serie 3 · C. 200 serie 7
  C. 202 · C. 202D · C. 202EC
  C. 205 serie 1 · C. 205 serie 3 · C. 205N2
Captured  ▀C. 200 serie 3 · ▀C. 200 serie 7 · ▀C. 202

Italy fighters
Fiat  CR.32 · CR.32 bis · CR.32 quater · CR.42 · Marcolin's C.R.42 CN
  G.50 serie 2 · G.50 AS serie 7
  G.55 sottoserie 0 · G.55 serie 1 · G.55S · G.56
Reggiane  Re.2000 G.A. · Re.2000 serie 1
  Re.2001 serie 1 · Re.2001 gruppo 22 · Re.2001 CB · Re.2001 CN
  Re.2002 Early
  Re.2005 serie 0
Macchi  C. 200 serie 3 · C. 200 serie 7
  C. 202 · C. 202D · C. 202EC
  C. 205 serie 1 · C. 205 serie 3 · C. 205N2
IMAM  Ro.44
  Foreign:
Germany  ▄Bf 109 G-14/AS
USA  ▄P-47D-30
Britain  ▄Spitfire Mk Vb/trop
Hungary  ◐Bf 109 F-4 · ◐Bf 109 G-2 · ◔Yak-9P
Romania  He 112 B-1/U2 · IAR-81C