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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian attacker {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]].
 
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian attacker {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]].
  
The Breda Ba.65 (K.14) L as a ground attacker of rank 1.0 (Reserve) does its job with little to no problem due to its high ammo count and the fact that it gets an air spawn in Realistic Battles (which makes up for the slow speed that the plane suffers from). In Realistic, most of the time you will be flying against Russian planes or in some cases, depending on the map, the Americans and British. Your tail gunner, which is armed with a 7.7 mm machine gun, will do medium to high amounts of damage if armed with Universal belts as the 7.7 mm machine gun gets more dangerous the closer the enemy gets. If you get a chance at a head on, go for it because you will most likely win 4 out of 5 head-ons with this plane.
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The Breda Ba.65 (K.14) L is a ground attacker of rank 1.0 (Reserve), which does its job well thanks to a high ammo count and the fact that it receives an air spawn in Realistic Battles (which makes up for the slow top speed). In Realistic, most of the time you will be flying against Russian planes or on some maps, Americans and British. Your tail gunner, which is armed with a 7.7 mm machine gun, will do medium to high amounts of damage if armed with Universal belts.  The 7.7 mm machine gun is more dangerous the closer the enemy gets. If you get a chance at a head on, go for it because you will most likely win- the plane has very strong frontal armament for its tier.
  
The Ba.65 is one of the few reserve aircraft with flaps. You can use it to slow down during a strafing run to put more rounds into the target. Also, if you've mapped different keys for small calibre and large calibre guns, the 7.7 mm machine guns will be recognized as small calibre and the 12.7 mm machine guns will be recognized as large calibre, so you'll have to press both keys in order to bring your full firepower to bear. As for payloads, the 4 x 50 kg bombs are much more useful against the light ground targets you will see at this battle rating.
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The Ba.65 is one of few reserve aircraft with flaps. You can use it to slow down during a strafing run to put more rounds into the target. Also, if you've mapped different keys for small calibre and large calibre guns, the 7.7 mm machine guns will be recognized as small calibre and the 12.7 mm machine guns will be recognized as large calibre, and the guns will be able to fire separately. As for payload options, the 4 x 50 kg bombs are much more useful against the light ground targets you will see at this battle rating.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
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* 2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT da 12.7 mm machine guns, wing-mounted (350 rpg = 700 total)
 
* 2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT da 12.7 mm machine guns, wing-mounted (350 rpg = 700 total)
 
* 2 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT da 7.7 mm machine guns, wing-mounted (500 rpg = 1,000 total)
 
* 2 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT da 7.7 mm machine guns, wing-mounted (500 rpg = 1,000 total)
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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* Without load
 
* Without load
 
* 4 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (200 kg total)
 
* 4 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (200 kg total)
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:
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* 1 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT da 7.7 mm machine gun, dorsal turret (500 rpg)
 
* 1 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT da 7.7 mm machine gun, dorsal turret (500 rpg)
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
 
''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
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Although the Ba.65 is an attacker, it can be used in an anti-fighter role with much success.  The plane receives an airspawn which invariably allows it a significant altitude advantage over enemy fighters.  Boom and zoom tactics therefore become very effective against slow, climbing, enemies.  The Ba.65 has very good armament for its battle rating, and they will be enough to destroy any enemy fighter with one precise diving attack.
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Otherwise, the Ba.65 can also be used effectively in the intended ground attack role.  Use it's airspawn to gain speed in a dive and reach the target before enemy fighters arrive.  Then, the plane's bomb load are able to take out armoured ground targets, and its devastating frontal armament can kill many more lightly and non armoured targets/
  
 
===Manual Engine Control===
 
===Manual Engine Control===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Insane armament count, capable of downing planes in a few seconds
 
* Insane armament count, capable of downing planes in a few seconds
* Protected from most threats by the rear turret
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* Machine guns are very powerful against reserve tier planes
* Decent energy retention which should be enough to get some players off you
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* Good bomb load
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* Protected from most rear threats by the turret
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* Decent energy retention
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* Airspawn
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
* Slow speeds and slow acceleration of aircraft
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* Inferior turn rate than most biplanes
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* Slow top speed and acceleration
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* Inferior turn rate compared to most biplanes
 
* Catches fire easily
 
* Catches fire easily
 
* No armour or pilot protection
 
* No armour or pilot protection
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== History ==
 
== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== Encyclopedia Info ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
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The Breda Ba.65 Nibbio (Kite) is an Italian interwar, twin seater combat aircraft that was designed with versatility in mind. The aircraft was intended to perform a multitude of combat tasks ranging from conventional ground attack to intercepting hostile aircraft. However, due to many shortcomings of the Ba.65, it was later confined to pure ground support roles, and at the end of the war, converted to a trainer aircraft. Contrary to the positive first impressions that the aircraft left on it’s maiden flight in 1935, is the relative unpopularity among its crew due to the difficulties they faced while operating it.
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Nevertheless, over 200 Ba.65 aircraft were built between 1935 and 1939. The aircraft fought on several theaters of war such as in Spain and North Africa, whilst some versions were also exported to Chile and Iraq.
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''- From the [[wt:en/news/4714-development-breda-ba-65-k14-the-sharp-eyed-hawk-en|Devblog]]''
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
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* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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== External links ==
 
== External links ==
 
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
 
* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''

Revision as of 22:33, 17 June 2019

Ba.65 (K.14) L
ba_65_k14_l.png
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
1.0/1.0/1.0BR
2 peopleCrew
3.6 tTake-off weight
Flight characteristics
Isotta Fraschini K-14fcEngine
RadialType
airCooling system
Speed of destruction
590 km/hStructural
590 km/hGear
Offensive armament
2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gunWeapon 1
700 roundsAmmunition
701 shots/minFire rate
2 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gunWeapon 2
1 000 roundsAmmunition
900 shots/minFire rate
Defensive armament
7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gunTurret
500 roundsAmmunition
900 shots/minFire rate
Suspended armament
4 x 50 kg GP 50 bombSetup 1
2 x 100 kg GP 100 bombSetup 2
Economy
freeResearch
freePurchase
freeRepair
freeCrew training
1 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
10 Ge icon.pngAces
× (100) % Rp icon.pngReward for battle

Description

GarageImage Ba.65 K.14 L.jpg


The Ba.65 (K.14) L is a rank I Italian attacker with a battle rating of 1.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica".

The Breda Ba.65 (K.14) L is a ground attacker of rank 1.0 (Reserve), which does its job well thanks to a high ammo count and the fact that it receives an air spawn in Realistic Battles (which makes up for the slow top speed). In Realistic, most of the time you will be flying against Russian planes or on some maps, Americans and British. Your tail gunner, which is armed with a 7.7 mm machine gun, will do medium to high amounts of damage if armed with Universal belts. The 7.7 mm machine gun is more dangerous the closer the enemy gets. If you get a chance at a head on, go for it because you will most likely win- the plane has very strong frontal armament for its tier.

The Ba.65 is one of few reserve aircraft with flaps. You can use it to slow down during a strafing run to put more rounds into the target. Also, if you've mapped different keys for small calibre and large calibre guns, the 7.7 mm machine guns will be recognized as small calibre and the 12.7 mm machine guns will be recognized as large calibre, and the guns will be able to fire separately. As for payload options, the 4 x 50 kg bombs are much more useful against the light ground targets you will see at this battle rating.

General info

Flight Performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 5,600 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
477 466 29.9 30.9 5.9 5.7 730
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 5,600 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
501 490 28.2 29.0 9.4 7.6 730

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flaps
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
520 ~12 ~5
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 300 < 340 < 340 > 210
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
3,825 m 800 hp N/A

Survivability and armour

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Armaments

Offensive armament

The Ba.65 (K.14) L is armed with:

  • 2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT da 12.7 mm machine guns, wing-mounted (350 rpg = 700 total)
  • 2 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT da 7.7 mm machine guns, wing-mounted (500 rpg = 1,000 total)

Suspended armament

The Ba.65 (K.14) L can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 4 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (200 kg total)
  • 2 x 100 kg GP 100 bombs (200 kg total)

Defensive armament

The Ba.65 (K.14) L is defended by:

  • 1 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT da 7.7 mm machine gun, dorsal turret (500 rpg)

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Although the Ba.65 is an attacker, it can be used in an anti-fighter role with much success. The plane receives an airspawn which invariably allows it a significant altitude advantage over enemy fighters. Boom and zoom tactics therefore become very effective against slow, climbing, enemies. The Ba.65 has very good armament for its battle rating, and they will be enough to destroy any enemy fighter with one precise diving attack.

Otherwise, the Ba.65 can also be used effectively in the intended ground attack role. Use it's airspawn to gain speed in a dive and reach the target before enemy fighters arrive. Then, the plane's bomb load are able to take out armoured ground targets, and its devastating frontal armament can kill many more lightly and non armoured targets/

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Not controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Not controllable
Not auto controlled
Separate Not controllable
1 gear
Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Radiator Offensive 7 mm MCGP50
II Compressor Airframe New 7 mm MGs Turret 7 mm
III Wings repair Engine Offensive 12 mm MCSAP100
IV Cover New 12 mm MGs New 7 mm MGs (turret)

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Insane armament count, capable of downing planes in a few seconds
  • Machine guns are very powerful against reserve tier planes
  • Good bomb load
  • Protected from most rear threats by the turret
  • Decent energy retention
  • Airspawn

Cons:

  • Slow top speed and acceleration
  • Inferior turn rate compared to most biplanes
  • Catches fire easily
  • No armour or pilot protection
  • Low survivability

History

The Breda Ba.65 Nibbio (Kite) is an Italian interwar, twin seater combat aircraft that was designed with versatility in mind. The aircraft was intended to perform a multitude of combat tasks ranging from conventional ground attack to intercepting hostile aircraft. However, due to many shortcomings of the Ba.65, it was later confined to pure ground support roles, and at the end of the war, converted to a trainer aircraft. Contrary to the positive first impressions that the aircraft left on it’s maiden flight in 1935, is the relative unpopularity among its crew due to the difficulties they faced while operating it.

Nevertheless, over 200 Ba.65 aircraft were built between 1935 and 1939. The aircraft fought on several theaters of war such as in Spain and North Africa, whilst some versions were also exported to Chile and Iraq.

- From the Devblog

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
  • other literature.


Italy attackers
Ba.65 (K.14) L · Breda 88 (P.XI) · Hs 129 B-2 (Romanian Air Force) · P.108A serie 2 · SM.91 · SM.92