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* Reload of just 6 seconds
 
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* Large ammo count per magazine ('''19''' shots)
 
* Large ammo count per magazine ('''19''' shots)
* Very good AP Round with 301 mm penetration (90 degrees, 10 meters)  
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* Very good AP round with 301 mm penetration (90 degrees, 10 meters)  
 
* Extremely fast turret rotation speed when upgraded, especially for a heavy tank (characteristic of oscillating turrets)
 
* Extremely fast turret rotation speed when upgraded, especially for a heavy tank (characteristic of oscillating turrets)
 
* Good acceleration
 
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* Gun elevation & depression angles are poor (-8/+14 degrees)  
 
* Gun elevation & depression angles are poor (-8/+14 degrees)  
 
* Changing the ammo type is not possible without changing the ammo belt
 
* Changing the ammo type is not possible without changing the ammo belt
* Armor Values are inadequate to its BR (90 mm max)
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* Armor Values are inadequate against expected opponents (90 mm max)
 
* Reloading a new belt takes a long time
 
* Reloading a new belt takes a long time
  

Latest revision as of 15:48, 24 October 2019

AMX-50 Surbaissé
fr_amx_50_surbaisse.png
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
8.0/8.0/8.0BR
4 peopleCrew
167 %Visibility
front / side / backArmour
60 / 30 / 30Hull
90 / 60 / 40Turret
Mobility
57.8 tWeight
1 622 hp850 hpEngine power
28 hp/t15 hp/tSurface density
54 km/h forward
6 km/h back
51 km/h forward
5 km/h back
Speed
Armament
120 mm SA46 cannonMain weapon
38 roundsAmmunition
6.0 sReload
-8° / 14°Vertical guidance
3 000 roundsAmmunition
5.0 / 6.5 sReload
200 roundsBelt capacity
900 shots/minFire rate
Economy
170 000 Rp icon.pngResearch
440 000 Sl icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png7 450 / 9 938/5 200 / 6 936/2 600 / 3 468Repair
130 000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
440 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
1 400 Ge icon.pngAces
× (208) % Rp icon.pngReward for battle
× 1.8 Sl icon.png× 1.5 Sl icon.png× 1.2 Sl icon.png
This page is about the heavy tank AMX-50 Surbaissé. For other uses, see AMX-50 (Family).

Description

GarageImage AMX-50 Surbaissé.jpg


The AMX-50 Surbaissé is a Rank V French heavy tank with a battle rating of 8.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". On the battlefield, the vehicle is very easy to recognize due to its shape which simply cannot be mistaken for another French tank.

The AMX-50 Surbaissé differs from every heavy tank in its general playstyle, since it has rather thin armour which will not protect it against incoming enemy fire, you have to use its medium tank like mobility to perform deadly flank attacks which will often prove very catastrophic for the enemy team. Indeed, since you can keep up with most medium tanks and even outpace some, especially the British medium tanks, many enemies will find themselves completely caught off guard and at the mercy of your autoloading 120 mm gun which will allow you to kill one tank every 6 seconds. The tank is also a great long-range sniper (1,500 meters and beyond) as it comes equipped with a rangefinder that will allow you to range very quickly distant targets and deliver accurate shots upon them, also at such distances, your armour will start to be difficult to penetrate for most lower rank gun you'll encounter. Overall this tank, while being a heavy tank, is not meant to be played as such since it does not behave as such. You must use your mobility and your accurate fast-firing armament to prove effective against the enemies you'll come across

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Cast homogeneous armour
  • Rolled homogeneous armour (Hull sides, Hull rear, Hull roof)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 60 mm (30-85°) Front glacis
100 mm (8-57°) Joint plate
60 mm (21-74°) Bottom glacis
30-60 mm (0-23°) Top
30 mm Bottom
30 mm (0-50°) 20 mm
Turret - 60 mm Turret
40-60 mm (0-12°) Turret base
40 mm (0-30°) Turret bustle
20 mm (21-31°) Pivot ball
10 mm (69-76°) Turret underside
20 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 60 mm 20 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 30 mm thick.
  • Wheels are interleaved to offer stacked protection values.

Mobility

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armour
weight (tons)
Max speed (km/h)
57.8 N/A 55 (AB)
51 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 1,097 1,351
Realistic/Simulator 752 850
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 18.98 23.37
Realistic/Simulator 13.01 14.71

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: SA46 (120 mm)
120 mm SA46
Capacity Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
Stabilizer
38 -8°/+14° ±180° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 17.9 24.7 28.9 33.2 35.3
Realistic 17.9 22.1 25.7 28.4 30.0
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
50.0 __.__ __.__ __.__
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration in mm @ 0° Angle of Attack
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
120 mm Obus de rupture AP 303 302 286 267 251 235
120 mm Obus explosif HE 39 39 39 39 39 39
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
120 mm Obus de rupture AP 1067 23 N/A N/A N/A ° 48° 63° 71°
120 mm Obus explosif HE 762 23 0.1 0.1 4,650 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the AMX-50 Surbaissé.
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
38 XX (X+)  (+)  (+)  (+)  (+)  (+) no

Machine guns

Main article: AAT-52 (7.5 mm)
7.5 mm AAT-52
Coaxial mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
3,000 (200) 900 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

Playing the AMX 50 Surbaissé requires 2 things :

  • Good map knowledge
  • Gunnery discipline

As mentioned previously, the AMX 50 Surbaissé is not heavy, that probably is something you'll learn the hard way while playing your first matches in this tank. You have to play it like a medium tank and you always should try to look for a good flanking route that will eventually get you to a spot where you'll be able to decimate several tanks of the enemy team from the side of from behind. As a result, this tank requires a lot of forethinking before deciding which way to go and this decision must be taken in accordance with the map but also in accordance with what nation you face. The tank can also be used as a very effective long-range sniper especially in down tiers. The combination of fast-firing 120 mm gun and rangefinder can prove very effective especially at a range over 1,500 meters where your armour will start to matter especially against a lower-ranked opponent such as Tiger II's. To turn this vehicle into a deadly sniping machine, it is very much advised to bind rangefinding keys and sight adjustment that are intuitive to you. In this way you will be able to range targets and adjust the gun very accurately in such a way that, with practice and discipline will grant you the ability to deliver shots in a "Point aimed, Point hit" fashion.

Every enemy you can encounter which do not result from deliberate up tiers from the enemy can and will easily get through your armour. The tank's armour cannot withstand guns that are more powerful than the German 7.5 cm KwK 42 or the US 90 mm M3 gun

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Powerful 120 mm SA46 (M58) Gun
  • Reload of just 6 seconds
  • Large ammo count per magazine (19 shots)
  • Very good AP round with 301 mm penetration (90 degrees, 10 meters)
  • Extremely fast turret rotation speed when upgraded, especially for a heavy tank (characteristic of oscillating turrets)
  • Good acceleration
  • Average Topspeed of about 48 kph
  • 4 Smoke Grenades

Cons:

  • Gun elevation & depression angles are poor (-8/+14 degrees)
  • Changing the ammo type is not possible without changing the ammo belt
  • Armor Values are inadequate against expected opponents (90 mm max)
  • Reloading a new belt takes a long time

History

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Media

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See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


France heavy tanks
  ARL-44 (ACL-1) · AMX-50 Surbaissé
B1  Char de bataille B1 bis · Char de bataille B1 ter
USA  ▄Assault Tank M4A3E2 Jumbo