AMX-50 Foch

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AMX-50 Foch
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AMX-50 Foch
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The AMX-50 Heavy Tank was quite powerful, but DEFA wanted to procure a heavier 120mm self-propelled gun, however, problems soon started to appear. The weight was the main factor that hampered the development of the vehicle since the speed was deemed too low. In the end, the Canon Automoteur AMX-50 Foch was developed, named after Marshal Ferdinand Foch. Doctrinally, the AMX-50 Foch was supposed to provide long-range support to the regular AMX-50 tanks, there were plans to upgrade the vehicle with a 155mm cannon but the project was never seriously pursued.

It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance" along with the initial French ground tree. The Canon automoteur AMX-50 Foch  is quite a sturdy tank destroyer, it has enough armour to withstand regular APHE and AP projectiles, except for APCR and HEAT-FS, which start to be more common around its BR. It is not the fastest or most agile tank destroyer in the game, but for its size, is quite agile, but since it uses a fixed gun and not a turret, it is more susceptible to flanking manoeuvres by lighter vehicles armed with autocannons or recoilless rifles. Overall, the tank features a powerful gun capable of dealing with anything at its BR, and has enough armour to deal with late WWII vehicles, although it suffers against early Cold War designs such as the T-54 and the M48. 

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull180 / 40 / 40
Turret180 / 40 / 40
Crew4 people
Visibility81 %

The AMX-50 Foch is able to withstand every single round it faces in combat except HEATFS and 105 mm APCR sub-calibre shots frontally. It is often confused with the CA Lorraine and vice-versa due to its similarities in profile, size and frontal plate. For the same reason, people may think you are fragile yet you are one of the toughest armour to crack at the battle rating. Only the front is the strong section of the tank. Roof, rear and sides are the most vulnerable places of the tank, even for 20 mm autocannons.

Regarding crew compartment, despite being not too tight but not huge either, it has a high survivability specially for the number of crew members and the huge breech of the 120 mm cannon (they will most likely destroy your breech with a side shot but it will stop most of the spalling). The ammunition is located at the rear of the crew compartment (in front of engine deck) an at the hull sides. This makes the Foch one of the easiest tanks to ammo rack at the battle rating. The tank has a crew amount of 5 crewmen: driver, gunner, commander and two loaders, one of them is the machine gunner

Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 180mm (55°) Front glacis
100 mm (60°) Lower glacis
180-300 (0-72°) + 180 mm Gun mantlet
40 mm (15°) Top
40 mm Bottom
40 mm Top
40 mm (40°) Bottom
30 mm Fighting compartment
20 mm Engine deck
90 mm Gun mantlet
Cupola 200 mm 30 mm 30 mm 30 mm


  • Suspension wheels and tracks are both 20 mm thick.
  • Road wheels are interleaved and provide cumulative protection for the lower side hull.


Speedforward / back
AB56 / 21 km/h
RB and SB52 / 20 km/h
Number of gears5 forward
2 back
Weight59.5 t
Engine power
AB1 908 hp
RB and SB1 000 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB32.1 hp/t
RB and SB16.8 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 56 21 59.5 1,420 1,908 23.87 32.07
Realistic 52 20 884 1,000 14.86 16.81

The AMX-50 Foch is not as fast as compared with other turretless tank destroyers as the JPz 4-5 but not as slow as the Jagdtiger. Despite being huge, it is absurdly fast and agile for a tank its size due to being mounted on an AMX-50 chassis but with stronger armour than the Jagdtiger. As the rest of the French tanks, it has excellent neutral steering but the reverse speed is horrible. It is compensated with a tremendous horsepower and armour as well as a potent main gun. It should not be played as fast as the JPz 4-5 as well as risky but it should not be fully played as bastion defence.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB5 301 → 6 689 Sl icon.png
RB5 345 → 6 745 Sl icon.png
SB8 850 → 11 168 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications87 300 Rp icon.png
146 200 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 100 Ge icon.png
Crew training86 000 Sl icon.png
Experts300 000 Sl icon.png
Aces1 200 Ge icon.png
Research Aces720 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
150 / 210 / 250 % Sl icon.png
196 / 196 / 196 % Rp icon.png
Mobility Protection Firepower
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Brake System
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Improved Parts
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Improved FPE
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Crew Replenishment
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Horizontal Drive
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Adjustment of Fire
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Elevation Mechanism
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Main armament

120 mm SA46 cannon
Ammunition48 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
19.4 → 14.9 s
Vertical guidance-6° / 17°
Horizontal guidance-9° / 9°
Main article: SA46 (120 mm)

The AMX-50 Foch can be considered as a hybrid between the CA Lorraine and the AMX-50 Surbaisse: it shares the height of the Lorraine but mobility and the firepower of the AMX-50 Surbaisse. The gun has a use and ballistic similar to the Surbaisse (both share the same ammunition).

120 mm SA46 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 48 -6°/+17° ±9° N/A 5.3 7.3 8.9 9.8 10.5 19.37 17.14 15.79 14.90
Realistic 3.6 4.2 5.1 5.6 6.0


APBC: This is the first and only anti-tank ammunition the AMX-50 Foch. Despite having a "low" penetration (compared to other rounds seen at the battle rating) it should not be underestimated. It has the penetration to deal with all heavy tanks frontally (with exception of Maus and E-100) as well as enough spalling to destroy lightly armoured vehicles. This round is a 90% confirmed knock-out with a single shot due to its tremendous mass.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
120 mm Obus de rupture APBC 301 298 286 272 258 245
120 mm Obus explosif HE 39 39 39 39 39 39
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
Fuse sensitivity
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg)
0% 50% 100%
120 mm Obus de rupture APBC 1,067 23.1 - - - 47° 60° 65°
120 mm Obus explosif HE 762 22.84 0 0.1 4.65 79° 80° 81°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the AMX-50 Foch
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48 43 (+5) 31 (+17) 19 (+29) (+43) (+47) Yes


  • Right side empty: 19 (+29) shells.

Machine guns

15 mm MG151/15 machine gun
Ammunition500 rounds
Belt capacity500 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
13.0 → 10.0 s
Fire rate700 shots/min
Vertical guidance-12° / 12°
Horizontal guidance-35° / 160°
Main article: MG 151 (15 mm)

The MG151 can be considered as one of the most reliable HMG (Heavy Machine Gun) in game due to multiple factors: ammunition capacity, muzzle velocity and penetration, stopping power and rate of fire. It is a Jack-of-all-trades when it comes to ground battles, it has a faster muzzle velocity than 20 mm cannons but has more destructive power than the 14.5 mm (Russian HMG calibre) machine gun but it overheats really fast. The MG151 is almost exclusive to this specific tank and is able of doing multiple things:

  • Immediate ground defence: this machine gun is able to damage and destroyed external components of all tanks (tracks, gun barrels, etc), destroy lightly armoured vehicles (with armour thinner than 45 mm), obstruction removal (fences, walls, etc) and spotting.
  • Immediate air defence: due to being roof mounted inside a cupola with a 360° rotation and a 20° elevation, it is able to critically damage low-flying aircraft. This belt has AP-I round which can cause fatal damage on all low flying aircraft (it often lights them on fire or damages their engine).
15 mm MG 151
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Cupola turret 500 (500) 700 -3°/+20° -35°/+160°

Usage in battles

The AMX-50 Foch does well in concealment, and so the first thing to do upon spawning onto the battlefield is to find a place where the AMX-50 Foch can hide while having a good arc of fire against incoming enemies. Do this to minimise the weak points of the vehicle, such as the weak side armour and the long reload time. If the enemy sees only the front armour, it should be fine given the thick, sloped armour available, but do take note on the type of enemy encountered.

If a Leopard I tank or anything else with HEAT shells notice the AMX-50 Foch's position, immediately move as these vehicles can very easily penetrate the AMX-50 Foch's frontal armour. However, encountering tanks with only standard AP shells like a Tiger II should suffice as they would have a harder time penetrating through the front of the AMX-50 Foch.

Being patient is key to the success of the AMX-50 Foch. Going out and hunting enemies, especially in close-range fights, is not beneficial to a long-term survival strategy in the AMX-50 Foch, especially with the weak side armour.

Pros and cons


  • Great armour on the front slope plate (upper glacis)
  • Good mobility
  • Reasonably fast
  • Very powerful 120 mm gun
  • Immense spalling from the APBC shells; knock-outs with a single shot are very likely
  • Rangefinder logs range very quickly
  • Has a 15 mm MG 151 on the top in its own turret


  • Very thin side armour
  • No turret: vulnerable to getting flanked
  • Rangefinder and gun mantlet are weak spots, allowing APHE shells to destroy the Foch with a well-placed shot
  • The main gun has a very narrow firing arc
  • Longer reload time than the AMX-50 Surbaissé
  • Limited ammo choices
  • AP shells will have a hard time destroying some opponents from the side
  • Very low levels of zoom
  • Takes time to aim, especially when stock
  • MG 151 jams quickly, turns slowly and has a very limited firing arc and elevation


During the early 1950s, DEFA worked to produce the third version of the AMX-50 heavy tank which featured a 120 mm self-propelled gun, however, during upgrades weight became a factor severely hampering the speed of the vehicle. 1955 saw a team of seventy German engineers brought in to help solve the problem maintaining the 120 mm cannon plus have the necessary armour and maintain a 65 km/h speed. Due to the delays and problems encountered during construction, only five prototypes were constructed and only one was finished which became known as the Canon Automoteur AMX-50 Foch, named after the supreme allied commander during World War I, Marshal Ferdinand Foch, general and military theorist. The main purpose of the AMX-50 "120 mm" was to provide long-range support for the medium AMX-50 "100 mm" tanks. An ambitious task of designing a version with a 155 mm cannon was started, however, this never made it past the drawing stage.



See also

External links

Ateliers de construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux (AMX)
Light tanks 
AMX-13  AMX-13-M24 · AMX-13 (FL11) · AMX-13 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-90 · AMX-13 (HOT)
Armoured cars  AMX-10RC
Medium tanks  AMX M4 · AMX-50 (TOA100)
AMX-30  AMX-30 · AMX-30 ACRA · AMX-30 (1972) · AMX-30B2 · AMX-30B2 BRENUS · AMX-30 Super
AMX-32/40  AMX-32 (105) · AMX-32 · AMX-40
Heavy tanks  AMX-50 Surbaissé · AMX-50 Surblindé
Tank destroyers  ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch
SPAAGs  AMX-13 DCA 40 · AMX-30 DCA
Export  AMX-13

France tank destroyers
Lorraine 40t derivatives  CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50
Other  AMR.35 ZT3 · Lorraine 37L · SAu 40 · ARL-44 · ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch · AuF1
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