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The '''{{specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{specs|rank}} French medium tank {{Battle-rating|5}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. If features the same armament (and turret) as the [[Lorraine 40t]] on a more robust chassis, similar to that of the [[AMX M4]], in sum, it is a fusion of the former's firepower and the latter's mobility and protection. It is the logical next step to the French rank IV medium tech tree.
 
The '''{{specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{specs|rank}} French medium tank {{Battle-rating|5}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. If features the same armament (and turret) as the [[Lorraine 40t]] on a more robust chassis, similar to that of the [[AMX M4]], in sum, it is a fusion of the former's firepower and the latter's mobility and protection. It is the logical next step to the French rank IV medium tech tree.
  
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The lower part resembles that of a [[Pz.Kpfw. V Ausf. D|Panther]]'s hull with its overlapping metal road wheels, its two large fans over the engine deck, its sloped front and back armour and its high profile. There are a few things that distinguishes it from its predecessor: there is not longer a "flat" portion between the LFP and UFP and the two fan casings have been removed. As for the turret, it is quite a classical post-war French design: an oscillating turret fitted with an auto-loader mechanism, a long gun and turret bulge and a thick turret ring.
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The lower part resembles that of a [[Panther D|Panther]]'s hull with its overlapping metal road wheels, its two large fans over the engine deck, its sloped front and back armour and its high profile. There are a few things that distinguishes it from its predecessor: there is not longer a "flat" portion between the LFP and UFP and the two fan casings have been removed. As for the turret, it is quite a classical post-war French design: an oscillating turret fitted with an auto-loader mechanism, a long gun and turret bulge and a thick turret ring.
  
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This tank's hull is very similar to that of the famous German medium tank, even in armour values. It is only slightly weak from the side, making angling quite ineffective. This armour should be able to deflect incoming shots from the weaker tanks it may encounter at its BR spread, notably the famous Russian [[85 mm Tank Gun D-5|85mm D-5T]]. With its good slope, it can easily deflect APCR shots. The only thing wrong with this tank is its turret: it is very weak to incoming shots, with only 45mm sloped at 52°, it is a bit weaker than a [[T-34-85(D-5T)|T-34]]'s hull. The only way to avoid being taken down too easily is to increase distance between you and your foes. Don't worry on that: your gun is suited for that purpose.
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This tank's hull is very similar to that of the famous German medium tank, even in armour values. It is only slightly weak from the side, making angling quite ineffective. This armour should be able to deflect incoming shots from the weaker tanks it may encounter at its BR spread, notably the famous Russian [[D-5T (85 mm)|85mm D-5T]]. With its good slope, it can easily deflect APCR shots. The only thing wrong with this tank is its turret: it is very weak to incoming shots, with only 45mm sloped at 52°, it is a bit weaker than a [[T-34-85 (D-5T)|T-34]]'s hull. The only way to avoid being taken down too easily is to increase distance between the AMX-50 position and the enemy. Don't worry on that: the 100 mm gun is suited for that purpose.
  
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The SA47 L/58 is a very potent gun for a rank IV tank: it performs in a similar way to the Russian [[100 mm Tank Gun D-10|100mm D-10T]] equipped on the [[T-54 mod. 1947|T-54]] series. While not having any -HE filler in their AP rounds, the French engineers somehow managed to optimize armour spalling on penetrating shots and muzzle velocity, making these shells very good at long-range engagements. This gun is also mounted with an auto-loader, which provides it with a solid 6.67 seconds reload time. Not happy yet ? It has good gun depression and a fast turret traverse, which enables this tank to react quickly to flankers and take solid hulled-down position, its high gun placement minimizes the tank's silhouette behind hills.  
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The SA47 L/58 is a very potent gun for a rank IV tank: it performs in a similar way to the Russian [[D-10T (100 mm)|100mm D-10T]] equipped on the [[T-54 (1947)|T-54]] series. While not having any -HE filler in their AP rounds, the French engineers somehow managed to optimize armour spalling on penetrating shots and muzzle velocity, making these shells very good at long-range engagements. This gun is also mounted with an auto-loader, which provides it with a solid 6.67 seconds reload time. Not happy yet ? It has good gun depression and a fast turret traverse, which enables this tank to react quickly to flankers and take solid hulled-down position, its high gun placement minimizes the tank's silhouette behind hills.  
  
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While not being a the fastest tank, it certainly is capable of many feats of agility. As mentioned in the [[AMX M4]]'s article, this tank may be the slowest French rank IV tank, which is not a bad thing considering French tank's general dynamic game-play at this BR. "Don't put yourself in nasty front-line situations" is the best advice to follow with this tank. As it is, this 800+ HP engine should be able to carry you to any location in a good time.
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While not being a the fastest tank, it certainly is capable of many feats of agility. As mentioned in the [[AMX M4]]'s article, this tank may be the slowest French rank IV tank, which is not a bad thing considering French tank's general dynamic game-play at this BR. "Don't put the tank in nasty front-line situations" is the best advice to follow with this tank. As it is, this 800+ HP engine should be able to carry the tank to any location in a good time.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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| Hull || 80 mm (55°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 35 mm (61°) ''Lower glacis'' <br> 60 mm (39°) ''Front cheeks'' || 40 mm (24°) ''Top'' <br> 40 mm ''Bottom'' || 40 mm (0-30°) <br> 30 mm (30°) ''Transmission hatch'' || 20 mm
 
| Hull || 80 mm (55°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 35 mm (61°) ''Lower glacis'' <br> 60 mm (39°) ''Front cheeks'' || 40 mm (24°) ''Top'' <br> 40 mm ''Bottom'' || 40 mm (0-30°) <br> 30 mm (30°) ''Transmission hatch'' || 20 mm
 
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| Turret || 45 mm (39-56°) ''Turret front'' <br> 30 mm (9-26°) ''Turret base'' <br> 50 mm (7-82°) ''Barrel shroud'' || 30 mm (0-55°) ''Turret'' <br> 30 mm (0-25°) ''Turret base'' || 30 mm (0-30°) ''Turret bustle'' <br> 30 mm (6-22°) ''Pivot ball'' <br> 20 mm (69-90°) ''Turret underside'' || 20 mm
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| Turret || 45 mm (39-56°) ''Turret front'' <br> 30 mm (9-26°) ''Turret base'' <br> 50 mm (7-82°) ''Barrel shroud'' || 30 mm (0-55°) ''Turret'' <br> 30 mm (0-25°) ''Turret base'' || 30 mm (0-30°) ''Turret bustle'' <br> 30 mm (6-22°) ''Pivot ball'' <br> 20 mm (69-90°) ''Turret underside'' || 20 mm
 
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! Armour !! Sides !! Roof  
 
! Armour !! Sides !! Roof  
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== Usage in the battles ==
 
== Usage in the battles ==
 
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This medium tank performs good in its role, being versatile enough to take many battlefield roles: flanker, sniper and ambusher. The only thing it is insufficient at is absorbing damaging shots: there are too many weak spots on this tank to take anything bigger than HMG to the front. Don't stay too close to the front line since your reverse speed will not allow you to escape sufficiently fast and flanking maneuvers will make your weak sides vulnerable.
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This medium tank performs good in its role, being versatile enough to take many battlefield roles: flanker, sniper and ambusher. The only thing it is insufficient at is absorbing damaging shots: there are too many weak spots on this tank to take anything bigger than HMG to the front. Don't stay too close to the front line since the reverse speed will not allow the tank to escape sufficiently fast and flanking maneuvers will make the weak sides vulnerable.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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* Fast turret rotation speed
 
* Fast turret rotation speed
 
* Sloped frontal armour can bounce some lower rank guns and APCR
 
* Sloped frontal armour can bounce some lower rank guns and APCR
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* Very maneuverable
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* Very maneuverable
 
* Great flanker
 
* Great flanker
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* Higher velocity than the Russian [[100 mm Tank Gun D-10|100mm D-10T]] gun, easier to aim at range.
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* Higher velocity than the Russian [[D-10T (100 mm)|100mm D-10T]] gun, easier to aim at range.
 
* Has 5 crew members
 
* Has 5 crew members
 
* Wide tracks: able to cross all sorts of terrain with good speed.
 
* Wide tracks: able to cross all sorts of terrain with good speed.
 
* Overlapping wheels provide extra 20 mm to the hull's lower side.
 
* Overlapping wheels provide extra 20 mm to the hull's lower side.
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Armour will not protect you from rank 4/5 guns  
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* Armour will not protect the tank from rank 4/5 guns  
 
* No explosive filler in shells, one hit KOs from the side are rare.  
 
* No explosive filler in shells, one hit KOs from the side are rare.  
 
* One choice of shell. No APHE, no HEAT, no APDS/FS.  
 
* One choice of shell. No APHE, no HEAT, no APDS/FS.  
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* Elevation angle is only 15°: it sometimes is a problem.
 
* Elevation angle is only 15°: it sometimes is a problem.
 
* Gun elevation speed is slow due to oscillating turret design.
 
* Gun elevation speed is slow due to oscillating turret design.
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* Large, [[Pz.Kpfw. V Ausf. D|Panther]]-like hull, hard to hide.
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* Large, [[Panther D|Panther]]-like hull, hard to hide.
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* Loader's death will disable this tank from shooting its coaxial MG.
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* Incapacitated loader will disable this tank from shooting its coaxial MG.
 
* Weak LFP
 
* Weak LFP
  

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AMX-50 (TOA100)
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AMX-50 (TOA100)
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V Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
7.0 7.7 7.0
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Description

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The AMX Char Moyen de 50 tonnes (TOA100) is a Rank V French medium tank with a battle rating of 7.0 (AB/SB) and 7.7 (RB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". If features the same armament (and turret) as the Lorraine 40t on a more robust chassis, similar to that of the AMX M4, in sum, it is a fusion of the former's firepower and the latter's mobility and protection. It is the logical next step to the French rank IV medium tech tree.

The lower part resembles that of a Panther's hull with its overlapping metal road wheels, its two large fans over the engine deck, its sloped front and back armour and its high profile. There are a few things that distinguishes it from its predecessor: there is not longer a "flat" portion between the LFP and UFP and the two fan casings have been removed. As for the turret, it is quite a classical post-war French design: an oscillating turret fitted with an auto-loader mechanism, a long gun and turret bulge and a thick turret ring.

This tank's hull is very similar to that of the famous German medium tank, even in armour values. It is only slightly weak from the side, making angling quite ineffective. This armour should be able to deflect incoming shots from the weaker tanks it may encounter at its BR spread, notably the famous Russian 85mm D-5T. With its good slope, it can easily deflect APCR shots. The only thing wrong with this tank is its turret: it is very weak to incoming shots, with only 45mm sloped at 52°, it is a bit weaker than a T-34's hull. The only way to avoid being taken down too easily is to increase distance between the AMX-50 position and the enemy. Don't worry on that: the 100 mm gun is suited for that purpose.

The SA47 L/58 is a very potent gun for a rank IV tank: it performs in a similar way to the Russian 100mm D-10T equipped on the T-54 series. While not having any -HE filler in their AP rounds, the French engineers somehow managed to optimize armour spalling on penetrating shots and muzzle velocity, making these shells very good at long-range engagements. This gun is also mounted with an auto-loader, which provides it with a solid 6.67 seconds reload time. Not happy yet ? It has good gun depression and a fast turret traverse, which enables this tank to react quickly to flankers and take solid hulled-down position, its high gun placement minimizes the tank's silhouette behind hills.

While not being a the fastest tank, it certainly is capable of many feats of agility. As mentioned in the AMX M4's article, this tank may be the slowest French rank IV tank, which is not a bad thing considering French tank's general dynamic game-play at this BR. "Don't put the tank in nasty front-line situations" is the best advice to follow with this tank. As it is, this 800+ HP engine should be able to carry the tank to any location in a good time.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (Hull, Turret roof)
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Turret)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 80 mm (55°) Front glacis
35 mm (61°) Lower glacis
60 mm (39°) Front cheeks 		40 mm (24°) Top
40 mm Bottom 		40 mm (0-30°)
30 mm (30°) Transmission hatch 		20 mm
Turret 45 mm (39-56°) Turret front
30 mm (9-26°) Turret base
50 mm (7-82°) Barrel shroud 		30 mm (0-55°) Turret
30 mm (0-25°) Turret base 		30 mm (0-30°) Turret bustle
30 mm (6-22°) Pivot ball
20 mm (69-90°) Turret underside 		20 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 30 mm 20 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick. Suspension wheels are interleaved and can double in some areas.
  • Tracks 20 mm thick hang on the hull sides at the crew compartment area.
  • Hull undersides above tracks are 20 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 20 mm thick.

Mobility

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armour
weight (tons) 		Max speed (km/h)
54.0 N/A 57 (AB)
51 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 1,550 _,___
Realistic/Simulator 884 1,000
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 28.70 __.__
Realistic/Simulator 16.37 18.52

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: SA47 (100 mm)
100 mm SA47 L/58
Capacity Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance 		Stabilizer
50 -8°/+15° ±180° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 17.9 __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__
Realistic 17.9 __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
38.0 __.__ __.__ __.__
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration in mm @ 90°
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
100 mm Obus de rupture APCBC 229 226 216 201 189 179
100 mm Obus explosif HE 18 18 18 18 18 18
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
in m/s 		Projectile
Mass in kg 		Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent): 		Normalization At 30°
from horizontal: 		Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
100 mm Obus de rupture APCBC 1060 15 N/A N/A N/A ° 48° 63° 71°
100 mm Obus explosif HE 1000 15 0.1 0.5 1,400 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the AMX-50 (TOA100).
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		6th
rack empty 		7th
rack empty 		8th
rack empty 		9th
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
50 49 (+1) 44 (+6) 37 (+13) 30 (+20) 23 (+27) 16 (+34) 12 (+38) 7 (+43) 1 (+49) no

Turret empty: 44 (+6)

Machine guns

Main article: MAC 31 (7.5 mm)
7.5 mm MAC 31
Coaxial mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute) 		Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance
4,800 (150) 1,350 N/A N/A

Usage in the battles

This medium tank performs good in its role, being versatile enough to take many battlefield roles: flanker, sniper and ambusher. The only thing it is insufficient at is absorbing damaging shots: there are too many weak spots on this tank to take anything bigger than HMG to the front. Don't stay too close to the front line since the reverse speed will not allow the tank to escape sufficiently fast and flanking maneuvers will make the weak sides vulnerable.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • High penetration 100mm main gun with an auto-loader!
  • Amazing conical spread from stock APCBC shells. They are free and frontal hits will be deadly.
  • High top speed (57 kph)
  • MAC 31 coaxial MG
  • Fast turret rotation speed
  • Sloped frontal armour can bounce some lower rank guns and APCR
  • Very maneuverable
  • Great flanker
  • Higher velocity than the Russian 100mm D-10T gun, easier to aim at range.
  • Has 5 crew members
  • Wide tracks: able to cross all sorts of terrain with good speed.
  • Overlapping wheels provide extra 20 mm to the hull's lower side.

Cons:

  • Armour will not protect the tank from rank 4/5 guns
  • No explosive filler in shells, one hit KOs from the side are rare.
  • One choice of shell. No APHE, no HEAT, no APDS/FS.
  • Less penetration than the Russian 100 mm APCBC, with less post penetration damage.
  • Same turret as the Lorraine 40t: only 45mm thick
  • Elevation angle is only 15°: it sometimes is a problem.
  • Gun elevation speed is slow due to oscillating turret design.
  • Large, Panther-like hull, hard to hide.
  • Incapacitated loader will disable this tank from shooting its coaxial MG.
  • Weak LFP

History

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