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Revision as of 20:18, 17 October 2020

AMX-30 Super
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AMX-30 Super
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This page is about the premium French medium tank AMX-30 Super. For other versions, see AMX-30 (Family).

Description

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The AMX-30 Super is a premium gift rank VI French medium tank with a battle rating of 9.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull ___ mm ___ mm Top
___ mm Bottom
___ mm ___ - ___ mm
Turret ___ - ___ mm Turret front
___ mm Gun mantlet
___ - ___ mm ___ - ___ mm ___ - ___ mm
Cupola ___ mm ___ mm ___ mm ___ mm

Notes:

The armour protection, as common in many European MBTs such as the Leopard I, isn't enough to stop anything apart from heavy machine guns and 30 mm shells (although the sides and the rear are vulnerable even to 20 mm autocannon such as those on the AMX-30 and MBT-70), but sometimes the angles of the hull will bounce some shells. The turret is not great as most shells will penetrate it, often killing the gunner and detonating the ammunition in the rear of the turret. Unlike the Leopard I, the AMX-30 Super is capable of carrying enough ammunition in the turret to fight, leaving the hull relatively safe, but this comes with a price: whenever the tank is hit in the turret, there's a high chance that the ammunition will catch fire.

The fuel tank in the hull can stop some heat shells, but it's not something to rely on. Given the high mobility of the tank and the two-plane stabilizer, the vehicle gives his best when moving fast and hitting the enemy from the distance.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 73 52 36.5 1,317 1,622 36.08 44.44
Realistic 66 47 752 850 20.6 23.29

The AMX-30 Super is fast and nimble. Its engine gives a specific power of 1,622 hp in AB and 850 hp in RB/SB. With a power-to-ton ratio of 23.2 hp/ton in RB/SB and 44.4 hp/ton in AB, this tank can certainly traverse the terrains smoothly. Being about 36.5 tons, this tank is relatively lighter than its competitors of similar BR. This tank can go up to 72 km/h in AB and 65 km/h in RB/SB forwards and it goes up to -30 km/h in AB and -27 km/h in RB/SB reverse.

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: CN-105-F1 (105 mm)

The main armament of the AMX-30 Super is the 105 mm CN-105-F1 cannon, which is very similar to the likes of the 105 mm L7A3. The gun takes about 6.7 seconds to reload with an aced crew with max leadership and weapon reloading skill which is fairly standard among its competitors. This cannon fires APFSDS, HEAT, smoke and HE. It is recommended to at most keep 23 shells in the tank when playing Realistic Battles as its ready rack can carry 22 shells and this effectively removes all of the ammunition rack in the hull behind the fuel tanks (except 4 shells around the turret ring). It is recommended to take a loadout of mostly APFSDS with a few HEAT and Smoke shells just in case.

105 mm CN-105-F1 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 50 -8°/+20° ±180° Two-plane 28.56 39.53 48.00 53.08 56.47 8.71 7.70 7.10 6.70
Realistic 17.85 21.00 25.50 28.20 30.00

Ammunition

The main shell, the OFL 105 F1 APFSDS, is very capable of penetrating most of what it sees with a frontal shot as it has 350 mm of penetration at 0 degrees from 500 meters away. The OCC 105 F1 HEATFS may be very useful against light targets such as SPAAG or light tanks. The OFPH 105 F1 smoke shell provides extra ranged covering smoke in order to mask you or your team (possibly even blinding the enemy) in combat.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
OCC 105 F1 HEAT 400 400 400 400 400 400
OE 105 F1 Mle.60 HE 25 25 25 25 25 25
OFL 105 F1 APFSDS 361 358 350 341 332 322
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
OCC 105 F1 HEAT 1,000 10.95 0 0.1 1,020 62° 69° 73°
OE 105 F1 Mle.60 HE 700 12.1 0.1 0.1 2,000 79° 80° 81°
OFL 105 F1 APFSDS 1,525 3.8 N/A N/A N/A 78° 80° 81°
Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Screen radius
(m)
Screen deploy time
(s)
Screen hold time
(s)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
OFPH 105 F1 700 11.4 20 5 25 50

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the AMX-30 Super

Last updated: 1.101.0.44

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
50 23 (+27) 22 (+28) 19 (+31) (+41) (+49) No

Notes:

  • Shells are modeled individually and disappear from the rack after having been shot or loaded.
  • Racks 2 to 5 are first order ammo racks (ready racks). They total 22 shells and get filled first when loading up the tank.
  • These racks are also emptied early: the rack depletion order at full capacity is: 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1.
  • To go into battle with the frontal ammo rack empty, pack 23 (+27) shells.

Optics and night vision

AMX-30 Super Optics
Type of optic Magnification Night Vision Devices
Image Intensifier Thermal Imager
Resolution
Notes
Resolution Light Mult Noise Level
Gunner's Sight X8.0 - X12 - - - 500 x 300 -
Commander's View X6 1600 x 1200 9.0 High Not Fitted -
Driver's View X1 800 x 600 5.0 High Not Fitted -

Machine guns

The AMX-30 Super is armed with a coaxial 12.7 mm (.50 cal) inside its turret right beside the cannon and a lighter 7.62 mm (.30 cal) mounted on the roof near the commander's hatch. Although ditching the 20 mm typically found on other AMX-30s, the machine guns equipped can still deal fair damage to very lightly armoured vehicles.

12.7 mm M2HB
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 748 (200) 577 0°/+20° N/A
7.62 mm MG3A1
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Pintle 2,050 (1,000) 1,200 -10°/+45° ±120°

Usage in battles

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Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Horizontal Drive OFPH 105 F1
II Suspension Brake System FPE Adjustment of Fire OFL 105 F1
III Filters Crew Replenishment Elevation Mechanism Smoke grenade
IV Transmission Engine Artillery Support Laser rangefinder NVD
This is a premium vehicle: all modifications are unlocked on purchase

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Great mobility
  • Has stabilizer so it can shoot on the move unlike other AMX-30s
  • Good armour
  • Armour can sometimes bounce shots
  • Good survivability due to crews placement, as such is difficult to one-shot
  • Fuel tanks may absorb the HEAT-FS shells and sometimes the APFSDS shells too
  • Has access to a variety of ammunition rounds
  • Premium bonus

Cons:

  • Commander's turret machine gun found on the French AMX-30s is replaced with MG3A1 which cannot deal very well with air targets
  • The armour is still easily penetrated by other nations tank at the rank
  • Most of the times, the shots that penetrate the tank will take out the engine

History

During the second half of the 80s, a group of companies in West Germany developed an extensive program to modernize certain outdated tanks, including the French AMX-30B. A number of improvements were made to the French tank in order to enhance its firepower, increase its dynamic characteristics, and (optionally) enhance its armour to a certain extent.

The tank's firing potential was improved thanks to the installation of a MOLF fire control system with a stabilized sight and a stabilizer for the main gun. The tank's mobility was enhanced with a new 850-horsepower diesel engine, a German automatic transmission, and new torsion bars and hydraulic shock absorbers. The new tank was demonstrated to the public under the name "Super AMX-30" during testing in Saudi Arabia, but no buyers were found for the upgraded French tank, and only one Super AMX-30 was ever made.

- From Devblog

Media

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See also

Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

External links


France medium tanks
M4 Derivatives  M4A1 (FL10) · M4A4 (SA50)
AMX-50  AMX M4 · AMX-50 (TOA100) · AMX-50 (TO90/930)
AMX-30  AMX-30 · AMX-30 (1972) · AMX-30B2 · AMX-30B2 BRENUS · AMX-30 ACRA · AMX-30 Super
AMX-32/40  AMX-32 · AMX-32 (105) · AMX-40
Leclerc  Leclerc · Leclerc S2 · Leclerc SXXI · Leclerc AZUR
Other  D2 · S.35 · Lorraine 40t
Germany  Panther "Dauphiné"
USA  ▄M4A1 · ▄M4A3 (105) · ▄M4A4 · ▄M26

France premium ground vehicles
Light tanks  AMD.35 (SA35) · H.39 "Cambronne" · LVT-4/40 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-M24 · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963) · VBCI-2 (MCT30)
Medium tanks  M4A1 (FL10) · Panther "Dauphiné" · AMX-30 · AMX-30 Super · AMX-50 (TO90/930)
Heavy tanks  B1 ter · 2C bis · Somua SM
Tank destroyers  Lorraine 155 Mle.50