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==== Ammunition ====
 
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The main shell, the OFL 105 F1 APFSDS, is very capable of penetrating most of what it sees with a frontal shot as it has 350 mm of penetration at 0 degrees from 500 meters away. The OCC 105 F1 HEATFS may be very useful against light targets such as SPAAG or light tanks. The OFPH 105 F1 smoke shell provides extra ranged covering smoke in order to mask you or your team (possibly even blinding the enemy) in combat.
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* Good armour
 
* Good armour
 
* Armour can sometimes bounce shots
 
* Armour can sometimes bounce shots
* Good survivability due to crews placement, as such is difficult to one-shot
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* Good survivability due to crew placement, as such it is difficult to knock it out with a single shot
* Fuel tanks may absorb the HEAT-FS shells and sometimes the APFSDS shells too
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* Fuel tanks may absorb the HEATFS shells and sometimes the APFSDS shells too
 
* Has access to a variety of ammunition rounds
 
* Has access to a variety of ammunition rounds
* Premium bonus
 
  
 
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* The armour is still easily penetrated by other nations tank at the rank
 
* The armour is still easily penetrated by other nations tank at the rank
 
* Most of the times, the shots that penetrate the tank will take out the engine
 
* Most of the times, the shots that penetrate the tank will take out the engine
* Missing commander optics and commander fire control compare to other AMX-30s
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* Missing commander optics and commander fire control compared to other AMX-30s
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==

Revision as of 12:15, 5 August 2022

This page is about the premium French medium tank AMX-30 Super. For other versions, see AMX-30 (Family).
AMX-30 Super
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AMX-30 Super
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Description

The AMX-30 Super is a premium gift rank VI French medium tank with a battle rating of 9.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy".

General info

Survivability and armour

Smoke grenades
Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle
Armourfront / side / back
Hull79 / 35 / 30
Turret63 / 42 / 30
Crew4 people
Visibility88 %

Armour type:

Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull ___ mm ___ mm Top
___ mm Bottom
___ mm ___ - ___ mm
Turret ___ - ___ mm Turret front
___ mm Gun mantlet
___ - ___ mm ___ - ___ mm ___ - ___ mm
Cupola ___ mm ___ mm ___ mm ___ mm

Notes:

The armour protection, as common in many European MBTs such as the Leopard I, isn't enough to stop anything apart from heavy machine guns and 30 mm shells (although the sides and the rear are vulnerable even to 20 mm autocannon such as those on the AMX-30 and MBT-70), but sometimes the angles of the hull will bounce some shells. The turret is not great as most shells will penetrate it, often killing the gunner and detonating the ammunition in the rear of the turret. Unlike the Leopard I, the AMX-30 Super is capable of carrying enough ammunition in the turret to fight, leaving the hull relatively safe, but this comes with a price: whenever the tank is hit in the turret, there's a high chance that the ammunition will catch fire.

The fuel tank in the hull can stop some heat shells, but it's not something to rely on. Given the high mobility of the tank and the two-plane stabilizer, the vehicle gives his best when moving fast and hitting the enemy from the distance.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB72 / 31 km/h
RB and SB65 / 28 km/h
Number of gears7 forward
2 back
Weight36.5 t
Engine power
AB1 622 hp
RB and SB850 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB44.4 hp/t
RB and SB23.3 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 72 31 36.5 1,317 1,622 36.08 44.44
Realistic 65 28 752 850 20.6 23.29

The AMX-30 Super is fast and nimble. Its engine gives a specific power of 1,622 hp in AB and 850 hp in RB/SB. With a power-to-ton ratio of 23.2 hp/ton in RB/SB and 44.4 hp/ton in AB, this tank can certainly traverse the terrains smoothly. Being about 36.5 tons, this tank is relatively lighter than its competitors of similar BR. This tank can go up to 72 km/h in AB and 65 km/h in RB/SB forwards and it goes up to -30 km/h in AB and -27 km/h in RB/SB reverse.

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB4 560 Sl icon.png
RB4 560 Sl icon.png
SB4 560 Sl icon.png
Crew training10 000 Sl icon.png
Experts970 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 100 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 900 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 100 / 140 / 150 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 220 / 220 / 220 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Mods tank tool kit.png
Parts
Mods extinguisher.png
FPE
Mods tank reinforcement fr.png
Crew Replenishment
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Mods tank ammo.png
105mm_fr_CN105_Smoke_ammo_pack
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Mods tank ammo.png
105mm_fr_CN105_APDSFS_ammo_pack
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Mods smoke screen.png
Smoke grenade
Mods art support.png
Artillery Support
Mods tank laser rangefinder.png
Laser rangefinder
Mods thermal sight.png
NVD

Armaments

Laser rangefinder
Reduces the error and increases the maximum measurable distance of the rangefinder
Night vision device
Improves visibility by enhancing natural light or active illumination.

Main armament

Two-plane stabilizer
Reduces the swing of the gun in two planes while moving
Ammunition50 rounds
First-order22 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
8.7 → 6.7 s
Vertical guidance-8° / 20°
Main article: CN-105-F1 (105 mm)

The main armament of the AMX-30 Super is the 105 mm CN-105-F1 cannon, which is very similar to the likes of the 105 mm L7A3. The gun takes about 6.7 seconds to reload with an aced crew with max leadership and weapon reloading skill which is fairly standard among its competitors. This cannon fires APFSDS, HEAT, smoke and HE. It is recommended to at most keep 23 shells in the tank when playing Realistic Battles as its ready rack can carry 22 shells and this effectively removes all of the ammunition rack in the hull behind the fuel tanks (except 4 shells around the turret ring). It is recommended to take a loadout of mostly APFSDS with a few HEAT and Smoke shells just in case.

105 mm CN-105-F1 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 50 -8°/+20° ±180° Two-plane 28.6 39.5 48.0 53.1 56.5 8.71 7.70 7.10 6.70
Realistic 17.9 21.0 25.5 28.2 30.0

Ammunition

The main shell, the OFL 105 F1 APFSDS, is very capable of penetrating most of what it sees with a frontal shot as it has 350 mm of penetration at 0 degrees from 500 m away. The OCC 105 F1 HEATFS may be very useful against light targets such as SPAAG or light tanks. The OFPH 105 F1 smoke shell provides extra ranged covering smoke in order to mask you or your team (possibly even blinding the enemy) in combat.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
OCC 105 F1 HEAT 400 400 400 400 400 400
OE 105 F1 Mle.60 HE 25 25 25 25 25 25
OFL 105 F1 APFSDS 361 358 350 341 332 322
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
OCC 105 F1 HEAT 1,000 10.95 0.05 0.1 1,020 62° 69° 73°
OE 105 F1 Mle.60 HE 700 12.1 0 0.1 2,000 79° 80° 81°
OFL 105 F1 APFSDS 1,525 3.8 N/A N/A N/A 78° 80° 81°
Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Screen radius
(m)
Screen deploy time
(s)
Screen hold time
(s)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
OFPH 105 F1 700 11.4 20 5 25 50

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the AMX-30 Super
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
50 23 (+27) 22 (+28) 19 (+31) (+41) (+49) No

Notes:

  • Shells are modeled individually and disappear from the rack after having been shot or loaded.
  • Racks 2 to 5 are first order ammo racks (ready racks). They total 22 shells and get filled first when loading up the tank.
  • These racks are also emptied early: the rack depletion order at full capacity is: 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1.
  • To go into battle with the frontal ammo rack empty, pack 23 (+27) shells.

Optics and night vision

AMX-30 Super Optics
Type of optic Magnification Night Vision Devices
Image Intensifier Thermal Imager
Resolution
Notes
Resolution Light Mult Noise Level
Gunner's Sight X8.0 - X12 - - - 500 x 300 -
Commander's View X6 1600 x 1200 9.0 High Not Fitted -
Driver's View X1 800 x 600 5.0 High Not Fitted -

Machine guns

Ammunition800 rounds
Belt capacity200 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate577 shots/min
Vertical guidance0° / 20°
Ammunition2 200 rounds
Belt capacity200 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate1 200 shots/min

The AMX-30 Super is armed with a coaxial 12.7 mm (.50 cal) inside its turret right beside the cannon and a lighter 7.62 mm (.30 cal) mounted on the roof near the commander's hatch. Although ditching the 20 mm typically found on other AMX-30s, the machine guns equipped can still deal fair damage to very lightly armoured vehicles.

12.7 mm M2HB
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 748 (200) 577 0°/+20° N/A
7.62 mm MG3A1
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Pintle 2,050 (1,000) 1,200 -10°/+45° ±120°

Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Great mobility
  • Has stabilizer so it can shoot on the move unlike other AMX-30s
  • Good armour
  • Armour can sometimes bounce shots
  • Good survivability due to crew placement, as such it is difficult to knock it out with a single shot
  • Fuel tanks may absorb the HEATFS shells and sometimes the APFSDS shells too
  • Has access to a variety of ammunition rounds

Cons:

  • Commander's turret machine gun found on the French AMX-30s is replaced with MG3A1 which cannot deal very well with air targets
  • The armour is still easily penetrated by other nations tank at the rank
  • Most of the times, the shots that penetrate the tank will take out the engine
  • Missing commander optics and commander fire control compared to other AMX-30s

History

During the second half of the 80s, a group of companies in West Germany developed an extensive program to modernize certain outdated tanks, including the French AMX-30B. A number of improvements were made to the French tank in order to enhance its firepower, increase its dynamic characteristics, and (optionally) enhance its armour to a certain extent.

The tank's firing potential was improved thanks to the installation of a MOLF fire control system with a stabilized sight and a stabilizer for the main gun. The tank's mobility was enhanced with a new 850-horsepower diesel engine, a German automatic transmission, and new torsion bars and hydraulic shock absorbers. The new tank was demonstrated to the public under the name "Super AMX-30" during testing in Saudi Arabia, but no buyers were found for the upgraded French tank, and only one Super AMX-30 was ever made.

- From Devblog

Media

Skins
Videos

See also

Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

External links


Ateliers de construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux (AMX)
Light tanks 
AMX-13  AMX-13-M24 · AMX-13 (FL11) · AMX-13 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-90 · AMX-13 (HOT)
Armoured cars  AMX-10RC
Medium tanks  AMX M4 · AMX-50 (TOA100)
MBTs 
AMX-30  AMX-30 · AMX-30 ACRA · AMX-30 (1972) · AMX-30B2 · AMX-30B2 BRENUS · AMX-30 Super
AMX-32/40  AMX-32 · AMX-40
Heavy tanks  AMX-50 Surbaissé · AMX-50 Surblindé
Tank destroyers  ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch
SPAAGs  AMX-13 DCA 40 · AMX-30 DCA
Export  AMX-13

France medium tanks
M4 Derivatives  M4A1 (FL10) · M4A4 (SA50)
AMX-50  AMX M4 · AMX-50 (TOA100)
AMX-30  AMX-30 · AMX-30 (1972) · AMX-30B2 · AMX-30B2 BRENUS · AMX-30 ACRA · AMX-30 Super
AMX-32/40  AMX-32 · AMX-40
Leclerc  Leclerc · Leclerc S2 · Leclerc SXXI
Other  D2 · S.35 · Lorraine 40t
USA  ▄M4A1 · ▄M4A3 (105) · ▄M4A4
Germany  Panther "Dauphiné"

France premium ground vehicles
Light tanks  H.39 "Cambronne" · LVT-4/40 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-M24 · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963)
Medium tanks  M4A1 (FL10) · Panther "Dauphiné" · AMX-30 · AMX-30 Super
Heavy tanks  B1 ter · Somua SM
Tank destroyers  Lorraine 155 Mle.50