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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''{{specs|name}}''' ('''''A'''telier de Construction d'Issy-les-'''M'''oulineau'''x''', char de '''13''' t, '''d'''éfense '''c'''ontre '''a'''vions, canon de '''40''' mm'': Issy-les-Moulineaux construction bureau, 13 ton tank, anti-air defense, 40 mm gun) is a Rank {{specs|rank}} French self-propelled anti-aircraft gun {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. It is a clear improvement to its predecessor in all domains, combining two good things to make them even better: the [[AMX-13]]'s chassis and an improved [[Bofors (40 mm)|Bofors]] cannon (The 40 mm Mle 51 T1 cannon is a French version of the usual 40mm Bofors AA gun).
 
The '''{{specs|name}}''' ('''''A'''telier de Construction d'Issy-les-'''M'''oulineau'''x''', char de '''13''' t, '''d'''éfense '''c'''ontre '''a'''vions, canon de '''40''' mm'': Issy-les-Moulineaux construction bureau, 13 ton tank, anti-air defense, 40 mm gun) is a Rank {{specs|rank}} French self-propelled anti-aircraft gun {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. It is a clear improvement to its predecessor in all domains, combining two good things to make them even better: the [[AMX-13]]'s chassis and an improved [[Bofors (40 mm)|Bofors]] cannon (The 40 mm Mle 51 T1 cannon is a French version of the usual 40mm Bofors AA gun).
  
 
An [[AMX-13]] chassis, a classic of French post-war technology has been modified to fit SPAA role. This specific chassis has some variants over the usual ones : an enlarged turret ring and with it some extra storage boxes, both extend sideways over the tracks. This tank is quite recognizable for its large box-shaped turret over its chassis.
 
An [[AMX-13]] chassis, a classic of French post-war technology has been modified to fit SPAA role. This specific chassis has some variants over the usual ones : an enlarged turret ring and with it some extra storage boxes, both extend sideways over the tracks. This tank is quite recognizable for its large box-shaped turret over its chassis.
 
This tank has 20 mm of armour, all around, barely angled but for the UFP, this won't protect it from antitank rounds nor from autocannon fire but it can certainly deflect poorly-aimed HMG bursts, but not for too long. If taking too long bursts (or if the enemy gets too close), some bullets may find their way through the two ''large holes'' in the turret front, near the gun area (there is also two smaller holes in the turret's back). In sum, this tank's armour is not to be trusted with, but it will save you from stray bullets and medium to long range MG/HMG fire.
 
 
French ground forces commanders should be used to the AMX-13 chassis as it is also the basis for the only rank III French light tank. With its turret being a little bit heavier and its engine 31 hp less powerful, this tank is slower than the usual [[AMX-13]]. It can still carry its user wherever it wants, as long as the situation does not require fast escape maneuvers: with only -6 km/h backwards, it is hard to retreat fast enough.
 
 
This is this vehicle's main appeal: its gun. Being twice as fast-firing as its predecessor makes it easier to get planes down, but you will still have to aim, thought: this gun has pinpoint accuracy and almost no felt recoil. As for engaging tanks, with only 76 mm max penetration, you will start to struggle firing at most enemies since their frontal armour is strong enough to block most incoming 40 mm rounds. The real fun with this autocannon lies in shredding light tanks and SPAAs with 4-rounds bursts.
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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This tank has 20 mm of armour, all around, barely angled but for the UFP, this won't protect it from antitank rounds nor from autocannon fire but it can certainly deflect poorly-aimed HMG bursts, but not for too long. If taking too long bursts (or if the enemy gets too close), some bullets may find their way through the two ''large holes'' in the turret front, near the gun area (there is also two smaller holes in the turret's back). In sum, this tank's armour is not to be trusted with, but it will save you from stray bullets and medium to long range MG/HMG fire.
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{| class="wikitable"
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
|-
 
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
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|-
| Hull || 20 mm (67°) || 20 mm (0-15°)|| 15 mm (0-58°) || 10 mm
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| Hull || 20 mm (66°) ''Upper Glacis''<br> 40 mm (cylindrical) ''Transmission housing'' <br> 20 mm (51°) ''Lower Glacis'' || 20 mm ''Sides'' <br> 20 mm (13-15°) ''Turret base'' || 15 mm ''upper plate'' <br> 15 mm (58°) ''Lower glacis'' || 20 mm (24°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 10 mm ''Centre and rear''<br> 5mm ''Vents''
 
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| Turret || 20 mm (25°) || 20 mm (15°) || 20 mm () || N/A
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| Turret || 20 mm (24-54°) ''Gun shield'' || 20 mm (14-15°) || 20 mm (conical) ''Top'' <br> 20 mm (cylindrical) ''Bottom'' || N/A
 
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'''Notes:'''<br>
 
'''Notes:'''<br>
 
''Turret:''
 
''Turret:''
* Turret frontal armour is split in two by gun.  
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* Turret frontal armour is split in two for gun clearance.
 
* Round hole below gun hole in front of the turret.
 
* Round hole below gun hole in front of the turret.
 
* Two small holes in the turret's back armour
 
* Two small holes in the turret's back armour
* Turret ring is 10 mm thick.
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* Turret ring is 30 mm thick.
* Gun breech is 300 mm thick.
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* Gun breech is 150 mm thick.
 
* Turret basket is 5 mm thick.
 
* Turret basket is 5 mm thick.
* Gun barrel is 20 mm thick.
 
  
 
''Hull:''
 
''Hull:''
* Hull has extra 4 mm boxes in some places.
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* Suspension wheels and tracks are 15 mm thick.
* 40 mm @ 0-33° LFP.
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* Storage boxes are 4 mm thick.
* Extra 10 mm from tracks and wheel on the upper front plate.
 
* Tracks are 15 mm thick.
 
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 302|rbMinHp= 239}}
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! Weight (tons)
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French ground forces players should be used to the AMX-13 chassis as it is the basis for most French light tanks. With its turret being a little bit heavier and its engine 31 hp less powerful, this tank is slower than the usual [[AMX-13]]. It can still carry its user wherever it wants, as long as the situation does not require fast escape maneuvers: with only -6 km/h backwards, it is difficult to quickly get out of an unwanted situation.
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armor<br>weight (tons)
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!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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|rowspan="2" | 15.5 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 65 (AB)
 
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|60 (RB/SB)
 
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!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
 
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!colspan="1" | Mode
 
!Stock
 
!Upgraded
 
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|''Arcade''
 
|302
 
|___
 
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|''Realistic/Simulator''
 
|239
 
|270
 
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!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
 
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!colspan="1" | Mode
 
!Stock
 
!Upgraded
 
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|''Arcade''
 
|19.48
 
|__.__
 
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|''Realistic/Simulator''
 
|15.42
 
|17.42
 
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|}
 
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
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{{main|Mle51 T1 (40 mm)}}
 
{{main|Mle51 T1 (40 mm)}}
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="6" | [[Mle51 T1 (40 mm)|40 mm Mle51 T1]]
 
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! colspan="2" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
 
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
 
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| colspan="2" | 404 (4) || 240 || -5°/+85° || ±180° || N/A
 
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! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
 
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! style="width:4em" |Mode
 
! style="width:4em" |Stock
 
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
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| ''Arcade'' || 19.5 || 26.9 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
 
 
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| ''Realistic'' || 19.5 || 22.9 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
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! colspan="6" | [[Mle51 T1 (40 mm)|40 mm Mle51 T1]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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! Mode !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
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! ''Arcade''
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
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| rowspan="2" | 404 (4) || rowspan="2" | 240 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+85° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 26.4 || 36.6 || 44.4 || 49.1 || 52.2 || rowspan="2" | 0.50 || rowspan="2" | 0.50 || rowspan="2" | 0.50 || rowspan="2" | 0.50
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
 
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
 
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| 0.5 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
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! ''Realistic''
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| 17.9 || 21.0 || 25.5 || 28.2 || 30.0
 
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=== Ammunition ===
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The gun is this vehicle's main appeal. Being twice as fast-firing as its predecessor makes it easier to get planes down, but you will still have to aim. As for engaging tanks, with up to 94 mm max penetration, you will start to struggle firing at most enemies since their frontal armour is strong enough to block incoming 40 mm rounds, though with some precision, medium tanks and even heavy tanks can fall victim to your gun. Lightly armoured tanks and SPAAs will be easier tarets for your 4-rounds bursts.
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==== Ammunition ====
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* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}} - The standard belt can fulfill both roles (anti-air and lightly armoured vehicles) but with a lower rate of fire.
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* '''40mm HE-T:''' {{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}} - This belt is adapted for targeting aircraft with its high-explosive shells.
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* '''40mm AP-T:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}} - This belt is adapted for targeting lightly armoured vehicles with its armour-piercing rounds.
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
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|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
! data-sort-type="text" rowspan="2" | Belt
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
 
 
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! 10m
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
! 100m
 
! 500m
 
! 1000m
 
! 1500m
 
! 2000m
 
 
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| Default || AP-T, HE-T (4x) || 76 || 74 || 62 || 45 || 33 || 24
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| Default || 94 || 90 || 77 || 62 || 51 || 41
 
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| 40mm HE-T || 3 x AP-T, HE-T || 76 || 74 || 62 || 45 || 33 || 24
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| 40mm HE-T || 94 || 90 || 77 || 62 || 51 || 41
 
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| 40mm AP-T || 3 x HE-T, AP-T || 76 || 74 || 62 || 45 || 33 || 24
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| 40mm AP-T || 94 || 90 || 77 || 62 || 51 || 41
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="11" | Shell details
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! data-sort-type="text" rowspan="2" | Belt
 
! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
 
! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
 
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
 
''in m:''
 
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
 
''in mm:''
 
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
 
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
 
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
 
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! 0%
 
! 50%
 
! 100%
 
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| Default || AP-T, HE-T (4x) || 1025, 1005 || 0,86 ||| N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A
 
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| 40mm HE-T || 3 x AP-T, HE-T || 1025, 1005 || 0.86 || 0.2 || 0.1||  0° || 62° || 69° || 73°
 
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| 40mm AP-T || 3 x HE-T, AP-T || AP-T, HEFI-T || 1025, 1005 || 0.88 || N/A || N/A || -1° || 47° || 60° || 65°
 
 
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=== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] ===
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==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|300px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}.]]
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[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br /> ammo
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! Full<br>ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br /> rack empty
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! 1st<br>rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br /> rack empty
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! 2nd<br>rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br /> rack empty
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! 3rd<br>rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th<br /> rack empty
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! 4th<br>rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th<br /> rack empty
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! 5th<br>rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th<br /> rack empty
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! 6th<br>rack empty
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! 7th<br>rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |8th<br /> rack empty
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! 8th<br>rack empty
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! 9th<br>rack empty
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! Visual<br>discrepancy
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
 
 
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|| '''101''' || 92&nbsp;''(+9)'' || 84&nbsp;''(+17)'' || 76&nbsp;''(+25)'' || 56&nbsp;''(+45)'' || 40&nbsp;''(+61)'' || 20&nbsp;''(+81)'' || 12&nbsp;''(+89)''|| 8&nbsp;''(+93)'' || 0&nbsp;''(+101)'' || style="text-align:left" | Turret empty: &nbsp;() || style="text-align:left" | no
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|| '''101''' || 93&nbsp;''(+8)'' || 85&nbsp;''(+16)'' || 77&nbsp;''(+24)'' || 61&nbsp;''(+40)'' || 41&nbsp;''(+60)'' || 25&nbsp;''(+76)'' || 17&nbsp;''(+84)''|| 9&nbsp;''(+92)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+100)'' || No
 
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* Ammunition is organized in clips of 4 rounds.
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* Racks are subdivided in sets of 4 clips.
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* Clips disappear when all clips in the set have been shot or loaded.
  
== Usage in the battles ==
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== Usage in battles ==
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This SPAA is quite versatile as it can take down both tanks and planes with mitigated efficiency. It has an auto-cannon that does not fires fast enough to engage planes efficiently nor does it penetrates enough to shred tanks. As it is, this SPAA is good for front line use: providing cover for incoming ground attackers to its allies while also securing flanks from fast-movers.
 
This SPAA is quite versatile as it can take down both tanks and planes with mitigated efficiency. It has an auto-cannon that does not fires fast enough to engage planes efficiently nor does it penetrates enough to shred tanks. As it is, this SPAA is good for front line use: providing cover for incoming ground attackers to its allies while also securing flanks from fast-movers.
  
Good at engaging both tanks and planes, its versatile belts allows this vehicle to switch roles in a split second.
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Good at engaging both tanks and planes, its versatile belts allows this vehicle to switch roles in a split second. In the right hands, in a downtier, this SPAA is an absolute monster, easily capable of ace matches against tanks.
  
 
'''SPAA use:'''
 
'''SPAA use:'''
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'''Front-line use:'''
 
'''Front-line use:'''
  
''Do not'' engage tanks frontally: prefer lateral engagements, surprise your foes. If it happens that the enemy team is composed of medium/light tanks, there is a great chance that you can get some kills from them, be sure to have an escape route as any tank noticing you counters those flanking maneuvers. Heavy tanks at this BR are usually very hard to get trough, even from the side, engage only at risk. A more conservative way to play is to stay a few meters behind the front-line and spot flanking tanks while also watching the skies.
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''Do not'' engage tanks frontally: prefer lateral engagements, surprise your foes. If it happens that the enemy team is composed of medium/light tanks, there is a great chance that you can knock some of them out, but be sure to have an escape route as any tank noticing you counters those flanking maneuvers. Heavy tanks at this BR are usually very hard to get trough, even from the side, engage only at risk.
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Even though your gun has SPAA - Level Penetration, It can go through pretty much any tank side that it faces. '''Even the Tiger II.''' And it's from this that the DCA 40 gets it's charm tactic:
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# Take out the gun
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# Take out the track
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# Take out the machine gun
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# Take out the tank
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Knowing this, you can win battles against Panthers, Tigers (I and II), and many tanks you might find in an uptier at medium range, even when taking this tank into a higher tier than it could face.
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Taking out the gun is fairly easy, your center mounted bofors just needs to be aimed at the gun, and can take it out with 2 or 3 shots.
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Once you've taken out the gun, go for the track or transmission. doing this will render any tank immobile for at least 20 seconds, which is more than enough.
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'''93mm of penetration can go through almost any tank's side armour and rear armour in the game.''' With the exception of the Maus, of course, your gun can '''Shred''' enemy tanks from the side. Knowing this
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It's worth mentioning that in a downtier against axis powers, you can penetrate every vehicle you see ''from the front'' except for some German casemates. In an uptier, if you must engage a heavily armored tank from the front, several well placed shots to the cannon barrel will knock it out, and enable you to flank at your leisure and feast on their side armor. A more conservative way to play is to stay a few meters behind the front-line and spot flanking tanks while also watching the skies.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
* Good top speed.
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* Fast reload.
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* Good top speed, and decent agility
* Fires ''twice'' as fast as its predecessor (240 rpm).
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* Fast reload (unnoticeable reload)
* Shells have a higher velocity compared to the standard Bofors 40mm, making it easier to find hits.
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* Fires ''twice'' as fast as its predecessor (240 rpm)
* Fast elevation speed.
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* Shells have a higher velocity compared to the standard Bofors 40mm, making it easier to find hits
* +85° elevation angle.
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* Shells have amazing penetration
* Wide tracks for such a light chassis.
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* Fast elevation speed
* UFP sloped at 67° may bounce some shots.
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* +85° elevation angle
* 5 mm thick turret basket act as leg protection for the crew (from HMG fire).
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* UFP sloped at 67° may bounce some shots
* Often one-shots planes.
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* 5 mm thick turret basket act as leg protection for the crew (from HMG fire)
* Each belt has both HE-T and AP-T ammo inside (great for multipurpose roles).
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* Often one-shots planes
* Decent reverse speed.
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* Each belt has both HE-T and AP-T ammo inside (great for multipurpose roles)
* Gun is hard to overheat.
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* Decent reverse speed
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* Gun is hard to overheat
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* If only loading approximately 50% ammo, shots to the right side of the turret will knock out one crew member and do no other damage
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* Tons of ammo
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* No coaxial armament.
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* Struggles to reach its top speed
* Vulnerable to HMG fire.
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* Fairly low fire rate, making it is hard to hit planes.
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* Most enemies that it faces are no longer vulnerable to side shots.
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* Slow Turret rotation.
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===Design===
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The need for a SPAAG emerged in the 1950s for the French Army when the only AA vehicles left over from WW2 (M16 half-tracks mainly) became underpowered and thus obsolete. Several projects were launched using Bofors guns. Among them was the AMX-13 DCA canon de 40 mm using the hull of the AMX-13 on which was installed a specially designed SAMM S 980 turret housing the 40 mm Bofors L/70 gun. The turret offered good protection for the crew, 360° traverse and a 90° elevation angle. The Mle51 T1 gun fired 240 rounds per minute at 993 m/s.
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This page is about the self-propelled anti-air vehicle AMX-13 DCA 40. For other uses, see AMX-13 (Family).
AMX-13 DCA 40
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AMX-13 DCA 40
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Description

The AMX-13 DCA 40 (Atelier de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux, char de 13 t, défense contre avions, canon de 40 mm: Issy-les-Moulineaux construction bureau, 13 ton tank, anti-air defense, 40 mm gun) is a Rank III French self-propelled anti-aircraft gun with a battle rating of 4.7 (AB) and 5.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". It is a clear improvement to its predecessor in all domains, combining two good things to make them even better: the AMX-13's chassis and an improved Bofors cannon (The 40 mm Mle 51 T1 cannon is a French version of the usual 40mm Bofors AA gun).

An AMX-13 chassis, a classic of French post-war technology has been modified to fit SPAA role. This specific chassis has some variants over the usual ones : an enlarged turret ring and with it some extra storage boxes, both extend sideways over the tracks. This tank is quite recognizable for its large box-shaped turret over its chassis.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull40 / 20 / 15
Turret20 / 20 / 20
Crew5 people
Visibility79 %

This tank has 20 mm of armour, all around, barely angled but for the UFP, this won't protect it from antitank rounds nor from autocannon fire but it can certainly deflect poorly-aimed HMG bursts, but not for too long. If taking too long bursts (or if the enemy gets too close), some bullets may find their way through the two large holes in the turret front, near the gun area (there is also two smaller holes in the turret's back). In sum, this tank's armour is not to be trusted with, but it will save you from stray bullets and medium to long range MG/HMG fire.

Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 20 mm (66°) Upper Glacis
40 mm (cylindrical) Transmission housing
20 mm (51°) Lower Glacis
20 mm Sides
20 mm (13-15°) Turret base
15 mm upper plate
15 mm (58°) Lower glacis
20 mm (24°) Front glacis
10 mm Centre and rear
5mm Vents
Turret 20 mm (24-54°) Gun shield 20 mm (14-15°) 20 mm (conical) Top
20 mm (cylindrical) Bottom
N/A

Notes:
Turret:

  • Turret frontal armour is split in two for gun clearance.
  • Round hole below gun hole in front of the turret.
  • Two small holes in the turret's back armour
  • Turret ring is 30 mm thick.
  • Gun breech is 150 mm thick.
  • Turret basket is 5 mm thick.

Hull:

  • Suspension wheels and tracks are 15 mm thick.
  • Storage boxes are 4 mm thick.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB66 / 8 km/h
RB and SB61 / 7 km/h
Number of gears5 forward
1 back
Weight14.5 t
Engine power
AB515 hp
RB and SB270 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB35.5 hp/t
RB and SB18.6 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 66 8 14.5 302 515 20.83 35.52
Realistic 61 7 239 270 16.48 18.62

French ground forces players should be used to the AMX-13 chassis as it is the basis for most French light tanks. With its turret being a little bit heavier and its engine 31 hp less powerful, this tank is slower than the usual AMX-13. It can still carry its user wherever it wants, as long as the situation does not require fast escape maneuvers: with only -6 km/h backwards, it is difficult to quickly get out of an unwanted situation.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB1 493 → 1 921 Sl icon.png
RB1 184 → 1 523 Sl icon.png
SB1 718 → 2 211 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications24 700 Rp icon.png
44 900 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 100 Ge icon.png
Crew training22 000 Sl icon.png
Experts76 000 Sl icon.png
Aces400 Ge icon.png
Research Aces320 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
80 / 100 / 150 % Sl icon.png
142 / 142 / 142 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
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Tracks
Research:
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Cost:
2 200 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png
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Suspension
Research:
1 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 000 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
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Brake System
Research:
1 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 000 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
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Filters
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
170 Ge icon.png
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Transmission
Research:
2 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 900 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
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Engine
Research:
2 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 900 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
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Improved Parts
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 200 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png
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Improved FPE
Research:
1 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 000 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
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Crew Replenishment
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
170 Ge icon.png
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40mm_L70_HE_ammo_pack
Research:
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Cost:
2 200 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png
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Horizontal Drive
Research:
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Cost:
2 200 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png
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40mm_L70_AP_ammo_pack
Research:
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Cost:
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90 Ge icon.png
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Adjustment of Fire
Research:
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Cost:
2 000 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
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Elevation Mechanism
Research:
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Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
170 Ge icon.png
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Artillery Support
Research:
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Cost:
4 900 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Main armament

40 mm Mle51 T1 cannon
Autoloader
Automatically feeds projectiles into the breech. The speed does not depend on the skills of the loader
Ammunition404 rounds
Belt capacity4 rounds
Reload0.5 s
Fire rate240 shots/min
Vertical guidance-5° / 85°
Main article: Mle51 T1 (40 mm)
40 mm Mle51 T1 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 404 (4) 240 -5°/+85° ±180° N/A 26.4 36.6 44.4 49.1 52.2 0.50 0.50 0.50 0.50
Realistic 17.9 21.0 25.5 28.2 30.0

The gun is this vehicle's main appeal. Being twice as fast-firing as its predecessor makes it easier to get planes down, but you will still have to aim. As for engaging tanks, with up to 94 mm max penetration, you will start to struggle firing at most enemies since their frontal armour is strong enough to block incoming 40 mm rounds, though with some precision, medium tanks and even heavy tanks can fall victim to your gun. Lightly armoured tanks and SPAAs will be easier tarets for your 4-rounds bursts.

Ammunition

  • Default: AP-T · HEFI-T* - The standard belt can fulfill both roles (anti-air and lightly armoured vehicles) but with a lower rate of fire.
  • 40mm HE-T: HEFI-T* · HEFI-T* · HEFI-T* · AP-T - This belt is adapted for targeting aircraft with its high-explosive shells.
  • 40mm AP-T: AP-T · AP-T · AP-T · HEFI-T* - This belt is adapted for targeting lightly armoured vehicles with its armour-piercing rounds.
Penetration statistics
Belt Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Default 94 90 77 62 51 41
40mm HE-T 94 90 77 62 51 41
40mm AP-T 94 90 77 62 51 41

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the AMX-13 DCA 40
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
7th
rack empty
8th
rack empty
9th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
101 93 (+8) 85 (+16) 77 (+24) 61 (+40) 41 (+60) 25 (+76) 17 (+84) (+92) (+100) No

Notes:

  • Ammunition is organized in clips of 4 rounds.
  • Racks are subdivided in sets of 4 clips.
  • Clips disappear when all clips in the set have been shot or loaded.

Usage in battles

This SPAA is quite versatile as it can take down both tanks and planes with mitigated efficiency. It has an auto-cannon that does not fires fast enough to engage planes efficiently nor does it penetrates enough to shred tanks. As it is, this SPAA is good for front line use: providing cover for incoming ground attackers to its allies while also securing flanks from fast-movers.

Good at engaging both tanks and planes, its versatile belts allows this vehicle to switch roles in a split second. In the right hands, in a downtier, this SPAA is an absolute monster, easily capable of ace matches against tanks.

SPAA use:

Pre-aim your gun in the predicted direction of your target: the DCA-40 has a bit of a slow turret traverse for an SPAA. It is easier to aim at targets coming towards you: stay with your team and fire when the plane is ~500 m away: an hitting round will shred it in no time. Any other SPAA tactics apply normally to this vehicle.

Front-line use:

Do not engage tanks frontally: prefer lateral engagements, surprise your foes. If it happens that the enemy team is composed of medium/light tanks, there is a great chance that you can knock some of them out, but be sure to have an escape route as any tank noticing you counters those flanking maneuvers. Heavy tanks at this BR are usually very hard to get trough, even from the side, engage only at risk.

Even though your gun has SPAA - Level Penetration, It can go through pretty much any tank side that it faces. Even the Tiger II. And it's from this that the DCA 40 gets it's charm tactic:

  1. Take out the gun
  2. Take out the track
  3. Take out the machine gun
  4. Take out the tank

Knowing this, you can win battles against Panthers, Tigers (I and II), and many tanks you might find in an uptier at medium range, even when taking this tank into a higher tier than it could face.

Taking out the gun is fairly easy, your center mounted bofors just needs to be aimed at the gun, and can take it out with 2 or 3 shots.

Once you've taken out the gun, go for the track or transmission. doing this will render any tank immobile for at least 20 seconds, which is more than enough.

93mm of penetration can go through almost any tank's side armour and rear armour in the game. With the exception of the Maus, of course, your gun can Shred enemy tanks from the side. Knowing this

It's worth mentioning that in a downtier against axis powers, you can penetrate every vehicle you see from the front except for some German casemates. In an uptier, if you must engage a heavily armored tank from the front, several well placed shots to the cannon barrel will knock it out, and enable you to flank at your leisure and feast on their side armor. A more conservative way to play is to stay a few meters behind the front-line and spot flanking tanks while also watching the skies.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good top speed, and decent agility
  • Fast reload (unnoticeable reload)
  • Fires twice as fast as its predecessor (240 rpm)
  • Shells have a higher velocity compared to the standard Bofors 40mm, making it easier to find hits
  • Shells have amazing penetration
  • Fast elevation speed
  • +85° elevation angle
  • UFP sloped at 67° may bounce some shots
  • 5 mm thick turret basket act as leg protection for the crew (from HMG fire)
  • Often one-shots planes
  • Each belt has both HE-T and AP-T ammo inside (great for multipurpose roles)
  • Decent reverse speed
  • Gun is hard to overheat
  • If only loading approximately 50% ammo, shots to the right side of the turret will knock out one crew member and do no other damage
  • Tons of ammo

Cons:

  • Turret is literally an ammo rack
  • Bad gun depression
  • Loader is exposed to MG fire
  • Struggles to reach its top speed
  • Vulnerable to HMG fire
  • Most enemies that it faces are no longer vulnerable to side shots
  • Slow turret rotation
  • Turret prone to ammo-racking from strafing planes

History

Main article: History of the AMX-13

Design

The need for a SPAAG emerged in the 1950s for the French Army when the only AA vehicles left over from WW2 (M16 half-tracks mainly) became underpowered and thus obsolete. Several projects were launched using Bofors guns. Among them was the AMX-13 DCA canon de 40 mm using the hull of the AMX-13 on which was installed a specially designed SAMM S 980 turret housing the 40 mm Bofors L/70 gun. The turret offered good protection for the crew, 360° traverse and a 90° elevation angle. The Mle51 T1 gun fired 240 rounds per minute at 993 m/s.

Development

The development of the SAMM S 980 turret was stopped in 1957 and the Bofors gun production stopped in 1958. The experience gathered from similar single-gun SPAAG projects put the stress on numerous shortcomings when compared to twin-gun designs.

Combat usage

The AMX-13 DCA 40 never saw service or combat action in the French Army.

Media

Skins
Videos

See also

Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

External links


France anti-aircraft vehicles
Wheeled/Half-tracked  P.7.T AA · CCKW 353 AA · TPK 6.41
AMX-13 Derivatives  VTT DCA · AMX-13 DCA 40
Radar SPAAG  AMX-30 DCA
Missile SPAA  SANTAL · Roland 1 · ▄ItO 90M
Other  AMX-10P