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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''AMX-13 Défense Contre Avions (DCA) canon de 40 mm''' is the fourth variant of the [[AMX-13 (Family)|AMX-13 light tank family]]. Due to a scarcity of self-propelled anti-air (SPAA) vehicles in France following World War II, attempts were undertaken in the 1950s to repurpose existing tank chassis for anti-air tasks. The main weapon of the prototype is a 40 mm Mle51 T1 cannon based on the 40 mm Bofors L/70 cannon. The resulting vehicle is called the AMX-13 Défense Contre Avions (DCA) canon de 40 mm, and it is comprised of an [[AMX-13|AMX-13/75 FL10]] chassis with a rear-mounted armoured SAMM S-980 turret that allows firing at 90° elevation. With its sloped sides and full 360° traverse, the turret provided adequate overall protection.
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The '''{{specs|name}}''' ('''''A'''telier de Construction d'Issy-les-'''M'''oulineau'''x''', char de '''13''' t, '''d'''éfense '''c'''ontre '''a'''vions, canon de '''40''' mm'': Issy-les-Moulineaux construction bureau, 13 ton tank, anti-air defense, 40 mm gun) is a Rank {{specs|rank}} French self-propelled anti-aircraft gun {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. It is a clear improvement to its predecessor in all domains, combining two good things to make them even better: the [[AMX-13]]'s chassis and an improved [[Bofors (40 mm)|Bofors]] cannon (The 40 mm Mle 51 T1 cannon is a French version of the usual 40mm Bofors AA gun).
  
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Introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]], the AMX-13 DCA canon de 40 mm is extremely versatile, as it can effectively execute both anti-air and anti-tank duties. It possesses an autocannon with a decent firing rate and accuracy that can easily knock down enemy aircraft. This, combined with the deadly firepower it has access to, makes it an extremely dangerous vehicle. Furthermore, its mobility can be used to flank across the battlefields and engage poorly armoured vehicles in the enemy team early in the battle. Its interchangeable ammunition belts enable this vehicle to quickly convert between different types of ammunition. This vehicle is a tremendous beast in the right hands, easily capable of destroying many tanks in battle.
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An [[AMX-13]] chassis, a classic of French post-war technology has been modified to fit SPAA role. This specific chassis has some variants over the usual ones : an enlarged turret ring and with it some extra storage boxes, both extend sideways over the tracks. This tank is quite recognizable for its large box-shaped turret over its chassis.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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This tank has 20 mm of armour, all around, barely angled but for the UFP, this won't protect it from antitank rounds nor from autocannon fire but it can certainly deflect poorly-aimed HMG bursts, but not for too long. If taking too long bursts (or if the enemy gets too close), some bullets may find their way through the two ''large holes'' in the turret front, near the gun area (there is also two smaller holes in the turret's back). In sum, this tank's armour is not to be trusted, but it will save you from stray bullets and medium to long range MG/HMG fire.
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This tank has 20 mm of armour, all around, barely angled but for the UFP, this won't protect it from antitank rounds nor from autocannon fire but it can certainly deflect poorly-aimed HMG bursts, but not for too long. If taking too long bursts (or if the enemy gets too close), some bullets may find their way through the two ''large holes'' in the turret front, near the gun area (there is also two smaller holes in the turret's back). In sum, this tank's armour is not to be trusted with, but it will save you from stray bullets and medium to long range MG/HMG fire.
  
 
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
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| Hull || 20 mm (66°) ''Upper Glacis''<br> 40 mm (cylindrical) ''Transmission housing'' <br> 20 mm (51°) ''Lower Glacis'' || 20 mm ''Sides'' <br> 20 mm (13-15°) ''Turret base'' || 15 mm ''upper plate'' <br> 15 mm (58°) ''Lower glacis'' || 20 mm (24°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 10 mm ''Centre and rear''<br> 5mm ''Vents''
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| Hull || 20 mm (50-66°) ''Upper Glacis''<br> 40 mm (5-32°) ''Central Front'' <br> 20 mm (51°) ''Lower Glacis'' || 20 mm (0-15°) || 15 mm (1-58°) || 10 mm (90°) ''Main''<br>5mm (90°) ''Vents''
 
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| Turret || 20 mm (24-54°) ''Gun shield'' || 20 mm (14-15°) || 20 mm (conical) ''Top'' <br> 20 mm (cylindrical) ''Bottom'' || N/A
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| Turret || 20 mm (24-54°) || 20 mm (0-15°) || 20 mm (1-65°) || N/A
 
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''Turret:''
 
''Turret:''
  
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* Turret frontal armour is split in two for gun clearance.
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* Turret frontal armour is split in two for gun clearance.  
 
* Round hole below gun hole in front of the turret.
 
* Round hole below gun hole in front of the turret.
 
* Two small holes in the turret's back armour
 
* Two small holes in the turret's back armour
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* Turret ring is 30 mm thick.
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* Turret ring is 10 mm thick.
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* Gun breech is 150 mm thick.
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* Gun breech is 300 mm thick.
 
* Turret basket is 5 mm thick.
 
* Turret basket is 5 mm thick.
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* Gun barrel is 20 mm thick.
  
 
''Hull:''
 
''Hull:''
  
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* Suspension wheels and tracks are 15 mm thick.
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* Hull has extra 4 mm boxes in some places.
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* Storage boxes are 4 mm thick.
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* Extra 15 mm from tracks and wheel on the upper front plate.
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* Tracks are 15 mm thick.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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French ground forces commanders should be used to the AMX-13 chassis as it is also the basis for the only rank III French light tank. With its turret being a little bit heavier and its engine 31 hp less powerful, this tank is slower than the usual [[AMX-13]]. It can still carry its user wherever it wants, as long as the situation does not require fast escape maneuvers: with only -6 km/h backwards, it is hard to retreat fast enough.
  
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 302|rbMinHp= 239}}
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French ground forces players should be used to the AMX-13 chassis as it is the basis for most French light tanks. With its turret being a little bit heavier and its engine 31 hp less powerful, this tank is slower than the usual [[AMX-13]]. It can still carry its user wherever it wants, as long as the situation does not require fast escape manoeuvres: with only -6 km/h backwards, it is difficult to quickly get out of an unwanted situation.
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! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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! Weight (tons)
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! colspan="1" | Add-on Armor<br>weight (tons)
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! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
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| rowspan="2" | 15.5 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 65 (AB)
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|60 (RB/SB)
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! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
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! colspan="1" | Mode
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!Stock
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!Upgraded
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|''Arcade''
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|302
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|386
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|''Realistic/Simulator''
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|239
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|270
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! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
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! colspan="1" | Mode
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!Stock
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!Upgraded
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|''Arcade''
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|19.48
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|24.83
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|''Realistic/Simulator''
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|15.42
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|17.42
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
 
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{{main|Mle51 T1 (40 mm)}}
 
{{main|Mle51 T1 (40 mm)}}
  
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The gun is this vehicle's main appeal. Being twice as fast-firing as its predecessor makes it easier to get planes down, but you will still have to aim. As for engaging tanks, with up to 93 mm max penetration, you will start to struggle firing at most enemies since their frontal armour is strong enough to block most incoming 40 mm rounds, though with some precision, medium tanks and even heavy tanks can fall victim to your gun. The real fun with this autocannon lies in shredding light tanks and SPAAs with 4-rounds bursts.
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! colspan="6" | [[Mle51 T1 (40 mm)|40 mm Mle51 T1]]
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! colspan="2" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
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! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
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! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
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! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
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! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
 
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! colspan="6" | [[Mle51 T1 (40 mm)|40 mm Mle51 T1]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || Reloading rate (seconds)
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| colspan="2" | 404 (4) || 240 || -5°/+85° || ±180° || N/A
 
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! Mode !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
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! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 
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! Autoloader
 
 
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! ''Arcade''
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! style="width:4em" |Mode
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| rowspan="2" | 404 (4) || rowspan="2" | 240 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+85° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | - || 79.2 || 109.7 || 133.2 || 147.3 || 156.7 || rowspan="2" | 0.50
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! style="width:4em" |Stock
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! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
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! ''Realistic''
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| ''Arcade'' || 26.42 || 36.56 || 44.40 || 49.10 || 52.24
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| 53.5 || 63.0 || 76.5 || 84.6 || 90.0
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| ''Realistic'' || 17.85 || 21.0 || 25.5 || 28.2 || 30.0
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! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
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| 0.5 || 0.5 || 0.5 || 0.5
 
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The gun is this vehicle's main appeal. Being twice as fast-firing as its predecessor makes it easier to get planes down, but you will still have to aim. As for engaging tanks, with up to 94 mm max penetration, you will start to struggle firing at most enemies since their frontal armour is strong enough to block incoming 40 mm rounds, though with some precision, medium tanks and even heavy tanks can fall victim to your gun. Lightly armoured tanks and SPAAs are easy targets with your 4-rounds bursts.
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=== Ammunition ===
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==== Ammunition ====
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}} - The standard belt can fulfill both roles (anti-air and lightly armoured vehicles) but with a lower rate of fire.
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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* '''40 mm HE-T:''' {{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}} - This belt is adapted for targeting aircraft with its high-explosive shells.
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* '''40 mm AP-T:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}} - This belt is adapted for targeting lightly armoured vehicles with its armour-piercing rounds.
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
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{{:Mle51 T1 (40 mm)/Ammunition|HEFI-T*, AP-T}}
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! 10m
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! 100m
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==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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! 500m
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! 1000m
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! 1500m
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! 2000m
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| Default || AP-T, HE-T (4x) || 93 || 90 || 76 || 62 || 50 || 41
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| 40mm HE-T || 3 x AP-T, HE-T || 93 || 90 || 76 || 62 || 50 || 41
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| 40mm AP-T || 3 x HE-T, AP-T || 93 || 90 || 76 || 62 || 50 || 41
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! colspan="11" | Shell details
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
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! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
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! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
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''in m:''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
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''in mm:''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
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! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
 
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! Full<br>ammo
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! 0%
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! 1st<br>rack empty
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! 50%
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! 2nd<br>rack empty
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! 100%
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! 3rd<br>rack empty
 
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! 4th<br>rack empty
 
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! 5th<br>rack empty
 
 
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| '''101''' || 93&nbsp;''(+8)'' || 85&nbsp;''(+16)'' || 77&nbsp;''(+24)'' || 61&nbsp;''(+40)'' || 41&nbsp;''(+60)''
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| Default || AP-T, HE-T (4x) || 1025, 1005 || 0,86 ||| N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A
 
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! 6th<br>rack empty
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| 40mm HE-T || 3 x AP-T, HE-T || 1025, 1005 || 0.86 || 0.2 || 0.1|| +0° || 62° || 69° || 73°
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! 7th<br>rack empty
 
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! 8th<br>rack empty
 
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! 9th<br>rack empty
 
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! Visual<br>discrepancy
 
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!
 
 
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| 25&nbsp;''(+76)'' || 17&nbsp;''(+84)''|| 9&nbsp;''(+92)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+100)'' || No
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| 40mm AP-T || 3 x HE-T, AP-T || AP-T, HEFI-T || 1025, 1005 || 0.88 || N/A || N/A || -1° || 47° || 60° || 65°
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'''Notes''':
 
  
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* Ammunition is organized in clips of 4 rounds.
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=== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] ===
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* Racks are subdivided in sets of 4 clips.
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* Clips disappear when all clips in the set have been shot or loaded.
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br /> ammo
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |7th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |8th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |9th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" width="10%" |Recommendations
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
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|| '''101''' || 92&nbsp;''(+9)'' || 84&nbsp;''(+17)'' || 76&nbsp;''(+25)'' || 56&nbsp;''(+45)'' || 40&nbsp;''(+61)'' || 20&nbsp;''(+81)'' || 12&nbsp;''(+89)''|| 8&nbsp;''(+93)'' || 0&nbsp;''(+101)'' || style="text-align:left" | Turret empty: &nbsp;() || style="text-align:left" | no
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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This SPAA is quite versatile as it can take down both tanks and planes with mitigated efficiency. It has an autocannon that does not fire fast enough to engage planes efficiently, nor does it penetrate enough to shred tanks. As it is, this SPAA is good for front-line use: providing cover for incoming ground attackers to its allies while also securing flanks from fast-movers.
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This SPAA is quite versatile as it can take down both tanks and planes with mitigated efficiency. It has an auto-cannon that does not fires fast enough to engage planes efficiently nor does it penetrates enough to shred tanks. As it is, this SPAA is good for front line use: providing cover for incoming ground attackers to its allies while also securing flanks from fast-movers.
  
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Good at engaging both tanks and planes, its versatile belts allow this vehicle to switch roles in a split second. In the right hands, in a downtier, this SPAA is an absolute monster, easily capable of ace matches against tanks.
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Good at engaging both tanks and planes, its versatile belts allows this vehicle to switch roles in a split second. In the right hands, in a downtier, this SPAA is an absolute monster, easily capable of ace matches against tanks.
  
 
'''SPAA use:'''
 
'''SPAA use:'''
  
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It is easier to aim at targets coming towards you: stay with your team and fire when the plane is ~500 m away: an hitting round will shred it in no time. Any other SPAA tactics apply normally to this vehicle.
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Pre-aim your gun in the predicted direction of your target: the DCA-40 has a bit of a slow turret traverse for an SPAA. It is easier to aim at targets coming towards you: stay with your team and fire when the plane is ~500 m away: an hitting round will shred it in no time. Any other SPAA tactics apply normally to this vehicle.
  
 
'''Front-line use:'''
 
'''Front-line use:'''
  
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Do not engage tanks frontally: prefer lateral engagements, to surprise your foes. If it happens that the enemy team is composed of medium/light tanks, there is a great chance that you can knock some of them out, but be sure to have an escape route as any tank noticing you counters those flanking manoeuvres. Heavy tanks at this BR are usually very hard to get trough, even from the side, engage at your own risk.
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''Do not'' engage tanks frontally: prefer lateral engagements, surprise your foes. If it happens that the enemy team is composed of medium/light tanks, there is a great chance that you can knock some of them out, but be sure to have an escape route as any tank noticing you counters those flanking maneuvers. Heavy tanks at this BR are usually very hard to get trough, even from the side, engage only at risk.
  
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Even though your gun has SPAA - Level Penetration, It can go through pretty much any tank side that it faces. Even the Tiger II. And it's from this that the DCA 40 gets it's charm tactic:
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With that in mind, at close range, you can penetrate all American tanks up to 6.7 BR through the lower side armor, and all German tanks up to 6.0 through the side armor (Tiger IIs can be penetrated through very specific weakspots (rear turret ring), but not reliably). Tiger Is are difficult to face, and require you to be within knife-fighting range, but can be penetrated reliably through unangled side/rear shots to the hull or turret. All Sherman and Panther variants are easy pickings from the side, even at range, with early Shermans easily penetrated through the front as well. Russian tanks are a bit problematic due to the sloped armor. Against T-34s, aim at the turret sides or turret ring and against KVs, aim at the lower side hull. The IS series is unfortunately only penetrable through the rear engine deck, but are the only ground vehicles in the entire 3.7-5.7 BR spread that cannot be easily destroyed.
  
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# Take out the gun
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It's worth mentioning that in a downtier against axis powers, you can penetrate every vehicle you see ''from the front'' except for some German casemates. In an uptier, if you must engage a heavily armored tank from the front, several well placed shots to the cannon barrel will knock it out, and enable you to flank at your leisure and feast on their side armor. A more conservative way to play is to stay a few meters behind the front-line and spot flanking tanks while also watching the skies.
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# Take out the track
 
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# Take out the machine gun
 
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# Take out the tank
 
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Knowing this, you can win battles against Panthers, Tigers (I and II), and many tanks you might find in an uptier at medium range, even when taking this tank into a higher tier than it could face.
 
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* Good top speed, and decent agility
 
* Good top speed, and decent agility
 
* Fast reload (unnoticeable reload)
 
* Fast reload (unnoticeable reload)
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* Shells have a higher velocity compared to the standard Bofors 40mm, making it easier to find hits
 
* Shells have amazing penetration
 
* Shells have amazing penetration
 
* Fast elevation speed
 
* Fast elevation speed
 
* +85° elevation angle
 
* +85° elevation angle
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* Wide tracks for such a light chassis
 
* UFP sloped at 67° may bounce some shots
 
* UFP sloped at 67° may bounce some shots
 
* 5 mm thick turret basket act as leg protection for the crew (from HMG fire)
 
* 5 mm thick turret basket act as leg protection for the crew (from HMG fire)
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* Each belt has both HE-T and AP-T ammo inside (great for multipurpose roles)
 
* Each belt has both HE-T and AP-T ammo inside (great for multipurpose roles)
 
* Decent reverse speed
 
* Decent reverse speed
 
* Gun is hard to overheat
 
* Gun is hard to overheat
 
* If only loading approximately 50% ammo, shots to the right side of the turret will knock out one crew member and do no other damage
 
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* Struggles to reach its top speed
 
* Struggles to reach its top speed
 
* Vulnerable to HMG fire
 
* Vulnerable to HMG fire
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* Most enemies that it faces are no longer vulnerable to side shots
 
* Most enemies that it faces are no longer vulnerable to side shots
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* Turret prone to ammo-racking from strafing planes
 
* Turret prone to ammo-racking from strafing planes
  
 
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AMX-13 DCA 40
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AMX-13 DCA 40
France flag.png France
III Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
4.7 5.0 5.0
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This page is about the self-propelled anti-air vehicle AMX-13 DCA 40. For other uses, see AMX-13 (Family).

Description

GarageImage AMX-13 DCA 40.jpg


The AMX-13 DCA 40 (Atelier de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux, char de 13 t, défense contre avions, canon de 40 mm: Issy-les-Moulineaux construction bureau, 13 ton tank, anti-air defense, 40 mm gun) is a Rank III French self-propelled anti-aircraft gun with a battle rating of 4.7 (AB) and 5.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". It is a clear improvement to its predecessor in all domains, combining two good things to make them even better: the AMX-13's chassis and an improved Bofors cannon (The 40 mm Mle 51 T1 cannon is a French version of the usual 40mm Bofors AA gun).

An AMX-13 chassis, a classic of French post-war technology has been modified to fit SPAA role. This specific chassis has some variants over the usual ones : an enlarged turret ring and with it some extra storage boxes, both extend sideways over the tracks. This tank is quite recognizable for its large box-shaped turret over its chassis.

General info

Survivability and armour

This tank has 20 mm of armour, all around, barely angled but for the UFP, this won't protect it from antitank rounds nor from autocannon fire but it can certainly deflect poorly-aimed HMG bursts, but not for too long. If taking too long bursts (or if the enemy gets too close), some bullets may find their way through the two large holes in the turret front, near the gun area (there is also two smaller holes in the turret's back). In sum, this tank's armour is not to be trusted with, but it will save you from stray bullets and medium to long range MG/HMG fire.

Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 20 mm (50-66°) Upper Glacis
40 mm (5-32°) Central Front
20 mm (51°) Lower Glacis 		20 mm (0-15°) 15 mm (1-58°) 10 mm (90°) Main
5mm (90°) Vents
Turret 20 mm (24-54°) 20 mm (0-15°) 20 mm (1-65°) N/A

Notes:
Turret:

  • Turret frontal armour is split in two for gun clearance.
  • Round hole below gun hole in front of the turret.
  • Two small holes in the turret's back armour
  • Turret ring is 10 mm thick.
  • Gun breech is 300 mm thick.
  • Turret basket is 5 mm thick.
  • Gun barrel is 20 mm thick.

Hull:

  • Hull has extra 4 mm boxes in some places.
  • Extra 15 mm from tracks and wheel on the upper front plate.
  • Tracks are 15 mm thick.

Mobility

French ground forces commanders should be used to the AMX-13 chassis as it is also the basis for the only rank III French light tank. With its turret being a little bit heavier and its engine 31 hp less powerful, this tank is slower than the usual AMX-13. It can still carry its user wherever it wants, as long as the situation does not require fast escape maneuvers: with only -6 km/h backwards, it is hard to retreat fast enough.

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armor
weight (tons) 		Max speed (km/h)
15.5 N/A 65 (AB)
60 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 302 386
Realistic/Simulator 239 270
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 19.48 24.83
Realistic/Simulator 15.42 17.42

Armaments

Main article: Mle51 T1 (40 mm)

The gun is this vehicle's main appeal. Being twice as fast-firing as its predecessor makes it easier to get planes down, but you will still have to aim. As for engaging tanks, with up to 93 mm max penetration, you will start to struggle firing at most enemies since their frontal armour is strong enough to block most incoming 40 mm rounds, though with some precision, medium tanks and even heavy tanks can fall victim to your gun. The real fun with this autocannon lies in shredding light tanks and SPAAs with 4-rounds bursts.

40 mm Mle51 T1
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute) 		Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance 		Stabilizer
404 (4) 240 -5°/+85° ±180° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 26.42 36.56 44.40 49.10 52.24
Realistic 17.85 21.0 25.5 28.2 30.0
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
0.5 0.5 0.5 0.5

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Belt Penetration in mm @ 90°
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
Default AP-T, HE-T (4x) 93 90 76 62 50 41
40mm HE-T 3 x AP-T, HE-T 93 90 76 62 50 41
40mm AP-T 3 x HE-T, AP-T 93 90 76 62 50 41
Shell details
Ammunition Belt Velocity
in m/s 		Projectile
Mass in kg 		Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent): 		Normalization At 30°
from horizontal: 		Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
Default AP-T, HE-T (4x) 1025, 1005 0,86 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
40mm HE-T 3 x AP-T, HE-T 1025, 1005 0.86 0.2 0.1 +0° 62° 69° 73°
40mm AP-T 3 x HE-T, AP-T AP-T, HEFI-T 1025, 1005 0.88 N/A N/A -1° 47° 60° 65°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the AMX-13 DCA 40.
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		6th
rack empty 		7th
rack empty 		8th
rack empty 		9th
rack empty 		Recommendations Visual
discrepancy
101 92 (+9) 84 (+17) 76 (+25) 56 (+45) 40 (+61) 20 (+81) 12 (+89) 8 (+93) 0 (+101) Turret empty:  () no

Usage in battles

This SPAA is quite versatile as it can take down both tanks and planes with mitigated efficiency. It has an auto-cannon that does not fires fast enough to engage planes efficiently nor does it penetrates enough to shred tanks. As it is, this SPAA is good for front line use: providing cover for incoming ground attackers to its allies while also securing flanks from fast-movers.

Good at engaging both tanks and planes, its versatile belts allows this vehicle to switch roles in a split second. In the right hands, in a downtier, this SPAA is an absolute monster, easily capable of ace matches against tanks.

SPAA use:

Pre-aim your gun in the predicted direction of your target: the DCA-40 has a bit of a slow turret traverse for an SPAA. It is easier to aim at targets coming towards you: stay with your team and fire when the plane is ~500 m away: an hitting round will shred it in no time. Any other SPAA tactics apply normally to this vehicle.

Front-line use:

Do not engage tanks frontally: prefer lateral engagements, surprise your foes. If it happens that the enemy team is composed of medium/light tanks, there is a great chance that you can knock some of them out, but be sure to have an escape route as any tank noticing you counters those flanking maneuvers. Heavy tanks at this BR are usually very hard to get trough, even from the side, engage only at risk.

With that in mind, at close range, you can penetrate all American tanks up to 6.7 BR through the lower side armor, and all German tanks up to 6.0 through the side armor (Tiger IIs can be penetrated through very specific weakspots (rear turret ring), but not reliably). Tiger Is are difficult to face, and require you to be within knife-fighting range, but can be penetrated reliably through unangled side/rear shots to the hull or turret. All Sherman and Panther variants are easy pickings from the side, even at range, with early Shermans easily penetrated through the front as well. Russian tanks are a bit problematic due to the sloped armor. Against T-34s, aim at the turret sides or turret ring and against KVs, aim at the lower side hull. The IS series is unfortunately only penetrable through the rear engine deck, but are the only ground vehicles in the entire 3.7-5.7 BR spread that cannot be easily destroyed.

It's worth mentioning that in a downtier against axis powers, you can penetrate every vehicle you see from the front except for some German casemates. In an uptier, if you must engage a heavily armored tank from the front, several well placed shots to the cannon barrel will knock it out, and enable you to flank at your leisure and feast on their side armor. A more conservative way to play is to stay a few meters behind the front-line and spot flanking tanks while also watching the skies.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good top speed, and decent agility
  • Fast reload (unnoticeable reload)
  • Fires twice as fast as its predecessor (240 rpm)
  • Shells have a higher velocity compared to the standard Bofors 40mm, making it easier to find hits
  • Shells have amazing penetration
  • Fast elevation speed
  • +85° elevation angle
  • Wide tracks for such a light chassis
  • UFP sloped at 67° may bounce some shots
  • 5 mm thick turret basket act as leg protection for the crew (from HMG fire)
  • Often one-shots planes
  • Each belt has both HE-T and AP-T ammo inside (great for multipurpose roles)
  • Decent reverse speed
  • Gun is hard to overheat
  • If only loading approximately 50% ammo, shots to the right side of the turret will knock out one crew member and do no other damage

Cons:

  • Turret is literally an ammo rack
  • Bad gun depression
  • Loader is exposed to MG fire
  • No coaxial armament
  • Struggles to reach its top speed
  • Vulnerable to HMG fire
  • Fairly low fire rate, making it difficult to hit planes
  • Most enemies that it faces are no longer vulnerable to side shots
  • Slow turret rotation
  • Turret prone to ammo-racking from strafing planes

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === Encyclopedia Info ===, also if applicable).

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


France anti-aircraft vehicles
Wheeled/Half-tracked  P.7.T AA · CCKW 353 AA · TPK 6.41
AMX-13 Derivatives  VTT DCA · AMX-13 DCA 40
Radar SPAAG  AMX-30 DCA
Missile SPAA  SANTAL · Roland 1 · ▄ItO 90M
Other  AMX-10P

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