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The '''{{specs|name}}''' (Combat machinegun-car) is a reserve rank {{specs|rank}} French light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. It features a well-armoured turret on a fragile chassis and a subpar SA34 L/30 cannon as the main armament. This is the best as French reserve tanks get...
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The '''{{specs|name}}''' (Combat machinegun-car) is a rank {{specs|rank}} French light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. While originally a reserve vehicle, it was later superseded in status as a reserve vehicle in [[Update 1.93 "Shark Attack"]] by the AMD.35.  It features a well-armoured turret on a fragile chassis with a subpar SA34 L/30 cannon as the main armament.
  
Being not so fast, not so well-armoured and not so powerful, this tank is clearly not one to be bold with. Any other reserve tank you may encounter has a canon that penetrates about 150% more than yours and can fire twice as fast, so never engage an enemy head-on. Instead, as with most rank 1 French vehicles, stick with the team and follow flanking manoeuvres. Do not go out in an open field since your armour cannot protect you from incoming shots, your cannon cannot reliably engage an enemy, and your mobility does not allow for dodging. At best, this tank is a ''support brawler''; at worse, it is a decoy for the enemy to shoot a round of ammunition at.
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Being not so fast, not so well-armoured and not so powerful, this tank is clearly not one to be bold with. Any other light tank you may encounter has a cannon that penetrates about 150% greater than yours and can fire twice as fast, so never engage an enemy head-on. Instead, as with most rank 1 French vehicles, stick with the team and follow flanking manoeuvres. Do not go out in an open field since your armour cannot protect you from incoming shots, your cannon cannot reliably engage an enemy, and your mobility does not allow for dodging. At best, this tank is a ''support brawler''; at worse, it is a decoy for the enemy to shoot a round of ammunition at.
  
 
This tank's turret is its best attire: thick, sloped, and small. It is nearly invincible in a hull-down position. Otherwise, any penetrating frontal shot has a good chance to one-shot you: on the left side, a big ammo-rack can be easily detonated while on the right side, your only 2 crew members are all lined-up. Its mobility is "Not the best but still good" in terms of characterization. With about 15 HP/ton, it can carry its user to a good position.  
 
This tank's turret is its best attire: thick, sloped, and small. It is nearly invincible in a hull-down position. Otherwise, any penetrating frontal shot has a good chance to one-shot you: on the left side, a big ammo-rack can be easily detonated while on the right side, your only 2 crew members are all lined-up. Its mobility is "Not the best but still good" in terms of characterization. With about 15 HP/ton, it can carry its user to a good position.  
  
Firepower is the main worry of early French tanks: they are subpar. With at most 27 mm of penetration at point-blank ranges, poor ballistics and an awful reload time, this the worst reserve main armament. This gun is best used in assisting allied flanking manoeuvres and close-quarter engagements.
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Firepower is the main worry of early French tanks: they are subpar. With at most 27 mm of penetration at point-blank ranges, poor ballistics and an awful reload time, this the worst main reserve armament. This gun is best used in assisting allied flanking manoeuvres and close-quarter engagements.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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* MAC 31 machine gun as coaxial MG is good
 
* MAC 31 machine gun as coaxial MG is good
 
* Tiny target
 
* Tiny target
* Best French reserve tank so far...
 
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
 
* Has bad penetration values
 
* Has bad penetration values
* Reload time is twice as slow as any other reserve tanks
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* Reload time is twice as slow as any other tanks of similar caliber
 
* Bad speed
 
* Bad speed
 
* Hull armour is only 20 mm thick and flat
 
* Hull armour is only 20 mm thick and flat
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== History ==
 
== History ==
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The AMC.34 was a pre-war cavalry tank design that was not accepted for wide service, being considered insufficiently armoured. A dozen pre-series vehicles were equipped with the APX1-model turret, also used by the pre-war Char B1 tank and mounting the 47 mm SA 34 gun (as shown in-game), and used by the French 4th Cuirassiers in 1936-37, before being re-armed with 20mm gun turrets and shipped to the French North African colonies for service there. They are believed to have been all replaced by H.39 tanks and taken out of service in late 1939.
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The earlier Char D1 and the early versions of the Char D2 infantry tanks, which shared the same short 47 mm gun (and turret, in the case of the early-production D2) as the in-game AMC.34 but on different vehicle bodies (better armoured than the AMC.34, but also slower), did see wartime service. France produced 160 D1s between 1932 and 1935, which equipped 3 tank battalions in North Africa in 1939. One of these battalions, the 67th, would be recalled to fight in the fall of France. After the French defeat, the Germans allowed the Vichy regime to keep 60 of their remaining D1s in North Africa, where they fought against both the American landings at Oran in late 1942 and the German occupation of Vichy Tunisia around the same time. The estimated 50 early-model D2s that were produced between 1934 and 1936 with the same APX1 turret (later production vehicles of the D2 line would be up-gunned to carry the better 47 mm also found on the in-game Somua and B1 bis) also served during the fall of France, in their case with the 19th Tank Battalion under De Gaulle.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==

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AMC.34 YR
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Description

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The Automitrailleuse de Combat AMC.34 YR (Combat machinegun-car) is a rank I French light tank with a battle rating of 1.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". While originally a reserve vehicle, it was later superseded in status as a reserve vehicle in Update 1.93 "Shark Attack" by the AMD.35. It features a well-armoured turret on a fragile chassis with a subpar SA34 L/30 cannon as the main armament.

Being not so fast, not so well-armoured and not so powerful, this tank is clearly not one to be bold with. Any other light tank you may encounter has a cannon that penetrates about 150% greater than yours and can fire twice as fast, so never engage an enemy head-on. Instead, as with most rank 1 French vehicles, stick with the team and follow flanking manoeuvres. Do not go out in an open field since your armour cannot protect you from incoming shots, your cannon cannot reliably engage an enemy, and your mobility does not allow for dodging. At best, this tank is a support brawler; at worse, it is a decoy for the enemy to shoot a round of ammunition at.

This tank's turret is its best attire: thick, sloped, and small. It is nearly invincible in a hull-down position. Otherwise, any penetrating frontal shot has a good chance to one-shot you: on the left side, a big ammo-rack can be easily detonated while on the right side, your only 2 crew members are all lined-up. Its mobility is "Not the best but still good" in terms of characterization. With about 15 HP/ton, it can carry its user to a good position.

Firepower is the main worry of early French tanks: they are subpar. With at most 27 mm of penetration at point-blank ranges, poor ballistics and an awful reload time, this the worst main reserve armament. This gun is best used in assisting allied flanking manoeuvres and close-quarter engagements.

General info

Survivability and armour

The AMC.34 YR fits all definitions of a light tank. It has very little armour and very little space - it can't take a shot. When looking at it frontally, the AMC.34 YR has a big ammo rack on the left, and both crew members on the right, meaning that any shot that penetrates will almost certainly destroy the tank. When looking side-on, the AMC.34 YR has two other ammo racks in the middle, and right behind those, there are crew members (if any of them are taken out, the tank is destroyed); the only way that this tank can survive when shot side-on is if the enemy shoots too far back, where there's only a single fuel tank. However, with short reloads at rank I, the enemy is likely to reload in-time to finish the job.

Generally, the AMC.34 YR can't get shot, if it does - it is destroyed. This is easier to accomplish in realistic battles, where bushes can be used as cover, as well as buildings. However, in arcade battles, the AMC.34 YR has to be played extremely carefully and the player should expect the enemies to know their exact location.

Armour type:

  • Cast homogeneous armour (Turret)
  • Rolled homogeneous armour (Hull)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 20 mm (18-24°) Front plate
10 mm (88°), 20 mm (29°) Front glacis
20 mm (41°) Lower glacis
18 mm 10 mm (22-44°) Top
10 mm (24°) Bottom
10 mm
Turret 35 mm Turret front
35 mm (0-70°) Gun mantlet
56 mm (0-62°) Machine gun cover
35 mm (0-22°) 35 mm (22-26°)
38 mm (22°) Turret hatch
30 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 35 mm 30 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels, bogies, and tracks are 15 mm thick
  • Turret ring is 10 mm thick

Mobility

The AMC.34 YR is one of the more mobile rank I French tanks. It can reach speeds of up to 40 km/h when on hard, flat ground and it turns rather well. However, its speed can't be used to avoid enemy fire, since the maps at this rank are quite small, and usually, enemies are still able to align their shots due to very short reload speeds. Nevertheless, the player should move around the map when playing the AMC.34 YR, especially in realistic battles. If the enemies don't know your position, they can't shoot you - and you can't take any chances.

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armour
weight (tons)
Max speed (km/h)
9.7 N/A 45 (AB)
40 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 130 160
Realistic/Simulator 106 120
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 13.40 16.49
Realistic/Simulator 10.93 12.37

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: SA34 L/30 (47 mm)
47 mm SA34 L/30
Capacity Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
Stabilizer
76 -8°/+12° ±180° Vertical
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 14.95 20.69 25.12 27.77 29.55
Realistic 9.34 10.99 13.34 14.75 15.70
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
7.80 6.90 6.36 6.00
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration in mm @ 0° Angle of Attack
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
Mle1892G APHE 27 25 20 14 11 8
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
Mle1892G APHE 450 1.5 1.2 6.0 50 ° 47° 60° 65°
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the AMC.34 YR.
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
76 52 (+24) 24 (+52) (+75) no

Machine guns

Main article: MAC 31 (7.5 mm)
7.5 mm MAC 31
Coaxial mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
1,800 (150) 1,350 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

Play carefully. The AMC.34 YR is the opposite of survivable, so you can't get shot, at all. Your gun will struggle to penetrate early Italian tanks and some German tanks, which you will encounter the most, so learn the weak spots and flank. Below are some strategies that may help you out when operating the AMC.34 YR:

Hull-down:
  • With its thickest armour being on the turret, this tank performs fairly well in ambush positions near a choke-point: find yourself a rock, trench or hill and poke your turret out. You should have a good view of the battlefield while bouncing most incoming rounds, although don't take your chances and use cover to hide from the enemies. Even if you found a good spot, reposition every now and then since you will be spotted and dealt with in no time.
Support:
  • Assisting your allies will be your best use of this tank, whether by breaking tracks/guns of your enemies or by scouting and marking enemies on the map (or calling them out in the chat). Do try to steal targets from your allies, since its the best you can do. However, do keep in mind that your penetration and reload time are awful, never engage anything alone, or without cover nearby, since you will likely be destroyed.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Has APHE shell (Mle1892G)
  • Turret is well armoured and angled
  • MAC 31 machine gun as coaxial MG is good
  • Tiny target

Cons:

  • Has bad penetration values
  • Reload time is twice as slow as any other tanks of similar caliber
  • Bad speed
  • Hull armour is only 20 mm thick and flat
  • Turret ring is only 30 mm thick
  • Only 2 crew members are lined up and cramped: easy to one-shot
  • Huge ammo racks are easy to detonate

History

The AMC.34 was a pre-war cavalry tank design that was not accepted for wide service, being considered insufficiently armoured. A dozen pre-series vehicles were equipped with the APX1-model turret, also used by the pre-war Char B1 tank and mounting the 47 mm SA 34 gun (as shown in-game), and used by the French 4th Cuirassiers in 1936-37, before being re-armed with 20mm gun turrets and shipped to the French North African colonies for service there. They are believed to have been all replaced by H.39 tanks and taken out of service in late 1939.

The earlier Char D1 and the early versions of the Char D2 infantry tanks, which shared the same short 47 mm gun (and turret, in the case of the early-production D2) as the in-game AMC.34 but on different vehicle bodies (better armoured than the AMC.34, but also slower), did see wartime service. France produced 160 D1s between 1932 and 1935, which equipped 3 tank battalions in North Africa in 1939. One of these battalions, the 67th, would be recalled to fight in the fall of France. After the French defeat, the Germans allowed the Vichy regime to keep 60 of their remaining D1s in North Africa, where they fought against both the American landings at Oran in late 1942 and the German occupation of Vichy Tunisia around the same time. The estimated 50 early-model D2s that were produced between 1934 and 1936 with the same APX1 turret (later production vehicles of the D2 line would be up-gunned to carry the better 47 mm also found on the in-game Somua and B1 bis) also served during the fall of France, in their case with the 19th Tank Battalion under De Gaulle.

Media

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See also

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France light tanks
AMC.34/35  AMC.34 YR · AMC.35 (ACG.1)
H.35/39  H.35 · H.39 · H.39 "Cambronne"
AMX-13  AMX-13 (FL11) · AMX-13-M24 · AMX-13 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-90 · AMX-13 (HOT)
Wheeled  AML-90 · AMX-10RC
AMD.35  AMD.35 · AMD.35 (SA35)
E.B.R.  E.B.R. (1951) · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963)
Other  FCM.36 · R.35 (SA38) · Char 25t · MARS 15 · VBCI-2 (MCT30)
Austria  SK-105A2
Great Britain  ▄Crusader Mk.II
USA  LVT-4/40 · ▄M3A3 Stuart