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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpfull for survival in combat?''
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The Semovente 75/18 offers little in the way of effective protection, with its primary defence against enemy tanks being its small frontal profile. the 50mm frontal plate struggles to keep out even Tier 1 British and US guns at close range, while the extremely cramped interior means that penetrations will often knock out multiple crew members and modules in a single shot.
  
''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''
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Despite this, the Semovente's armour is still capable of keeping out machine-gun fire from most angles, and its fully-encloses design offers protection aircraft machine-guns unlike many of its low-tier open-top contemporaries.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and maneuverability as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''
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The Semovente is reasonably mobile for a low-tier tank destroyer, hitting around 30km/h on flat ground off-road with a fairly fast hull traverse.
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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== Usage in the battles ==
 
== Usage in the battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
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The Semovente will struggle to be effective with the extremely poor penetration of its APHE rounds. With a max penetration of barely 50mm at point-blank range, the vehicle will have problems penetrating the angled front armour of many similar tier vehicles, with light-tanks, armoured cars and SPAA being the best targets. In a full up-tier, the Semovente will struggle to do any damage at all with stock shells, with the sole exception of light tanks and AA vehicles.
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In this case, it is best for drivers to attempt to flank and shoot enemies from the side, where the powerful explosive capacity of the APHE shells offer excellent single-shot kill capability.
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The vehicles' effectiveness improves massively once the HEAT shell is unlocked, with 100mm of penetration at all ranges. This allows for reliable penetration of practically all the Semoventes' potential adversaries with the vehicles' most dangerous opponents being fast and agile light tanks such as the M22, which can easily penetrate the Semovente from close range and whose speed and size make a difficult target for the Semoventes' low-velocity howitzer.
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With the HEAT shell, the Semovente can make for an effective support vehicle, albeit one whose lack of survivability punishes positional mistakes harshly. The one thing to remember about the HEAT shell is that it sacrifices the one-shot capability of APHE, meaning that larger tanks will often take multiple hits to disable, and it's even lower velocity makes its excellent long-range penetration difficult to exploit.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Do not use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''
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'''Pros:'''
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* Good penetration with the HEAT shell
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* Top-mounted machine gun offers some utility not available to many low-tier tank destroyers.
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* The Italian tech-tree offers a decent aircraft and tank lineup at 2.3, with the AB43 scout, M15/42 medium tank, and Re.2001 CB fighter-bomber
  
'''Pros:'''
 
 
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Poor armour and survivability
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* Mediocre mobility
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* Low-velocity gun with a slow reload makes long-range shots difficult
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* Poor post-penetration damage with the HEAT shell, and terrible penetration with either APHE
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== History ==
 
== History ==
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The Semovente 75/18 was originally intended to be a self-propelled gun rather than a tank destroyer, with the War Thunder version being an improved variant built upon the M41 tank chassis with improved armour.
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In response to the poor effectiveness of existing Italian tank destroyer designs such as the 47/32 L40, the Semovente was pressed into service to combat US-built M3 Lee and Stuart tanks in service with the British Army in North Africa. Utilising a HEAT shell, the Semovente proved to be an effective counter to early-war British tanks, with its small size making it ideal for dug-in defensive positions where its lack of speed wasn't an issue.
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In one engagement in 1942, Semoventes' of the Ariete Division repelled an attack from 40 British light and medium tanks, destroying 20 with no losses of their own. While the Semoventes' HEAT shell proved effective against early-war tank designs, tougher Allied tanks such as the M4 Sherman proved a new challenge. In addition the Semoventes' cramped interior, low-velocity gun and under-powered engine lead to the development of larger and more powerful dedicated tank destroyer designs with superior firepower
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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== Read also ==
 
== Read also ==
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
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* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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''ETC.''
 
''ETC.''
  
 
== Sources ==
 
== Sources ==
 
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
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{{Italy tank destroyers}}
 
{{Italy tank destroyers}}

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Description

The Semovente 75/18 M41 is a Rank II Italy tank destroyer with a battle rating of 2.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".

General info

Survivability and armour

The Semovente 75/18 offers little in the way of effective protection, with its primary defence against enemy tanks being its small frontal profile. the 50mm frontal plate struggles to keep out even Tier 1 British and US guns at close range, while the extremely cramped interior means that penetrations will often knock out multiple crew members and modules in a single shot.

Despite this, the Semovente's armour is still capable of keeping out machine-gun fire from most angles, and its fully-encloses design offers protection aircraft machine-guns unlike many of its low-tier open-top contemporaries.

Mobility

The Semovente is reasonably mobile for a low-tier tank destroyer, hitting around 30km/h on flat ground off-road with a fairly fast hull traverse.

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: 75/18 mod.34 (75 mm)
75 mm 75/18 mod.34
Capacity Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
Stabilizer
43 -12°/+22° ±18° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 12.3 __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__
Realistic 8.3 __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
7.8 __.__ __.__ __.__
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration in mm @ 90°
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
Granata Perforante da 75 APCBC 44 43 38 33 28 25
Granata mod.32 HE 10 10 9 9 9 9
Granata Perforante mod.32 APCBC 51 50 44 38 32 28
EPS M42 HEAT 100 100 100 100 100 100
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
Granata Perforante da 75 APCBC 425 6.4 1.3 15 270 ° 48° 63° 71°
Granata mod.32 HE 450 6.4 0.1 0.1 610 ° 79° 80° 81°
Granata Perforante mod.32 APCBC 476 6.3 1.3 15 270 ° 48° 63° 71°
EPS M42 HEAT 399 5.3 0.0 0.1 500 ° 62° 69° 73°
Smoke characteristic
Ammunition Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Screen radius
in m
Screen time
in s
Screen hold time
in s:
Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Gr. Fumogena 450 6.4 13 5 20 50
Ammo racks
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
XX XX (+XX) XX (+XX) XX (+XX) No

Machine guns

Main article: Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)
8 mm Breda Mod. 38
Pintle mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
504 (24) 600 __° __°

Usage in the battles

The Semovente will struggle to be effective with the extremely poor penetration of its APHE rounds. With a max penetration of barely 50mm at point-blank range, the vehicle will have problems penetrating the angled front armour of many similar tier vehicles, with light-tanks, armoured cars and SPAA being the best targets. In a full up-tier, the Semovente will struggle to do any damage at all with stock shells, with the sole exception of light tanks and AA vehicles.

In this case, it is best for drivers to attempt to flank and shoot enemies from the side, where the powerful explosive capacity of the APHE shells offer excellent single-shot kill capability.

The vehicles' effectiveness improves massively once the HEAT shell is unlocked, with 100mm of penetration at all ranges. This allows for reliable penetration of practically all the Semoventes' potential adversaries with the vehicles' most dangerous opponents being fast and agile light tanks such as the M22, which can easily penetrate the Semovente from close range and whose speed and size make a difficult target for the Semoventes' low-velocity howitzer.

With the HEAT shell, the Semovente can make for an effective support vehicle, albeit one whose lack of survivability punishes positional mistakes harshly. The one thing to remember about the HEAT shell is that it sacrifices the one-shot capability of APHE, meaning that larger tanks will often take multiple hits to disable, and it's even lower velocity makes its excellent long-range penetration difficult to exploit.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good penetration with the HEAT shell
  • Top-mounted machine gun offers some utility not available to many low-tier tank destroyers.
  • The Italian tech-tree offers a decent aircraft and tank lineup at 2.3, with the AB43 scout, M15/42 medium tank, and Re.2001 CB fighter-bomber

Cons:

  • Poor armour and survivability
  • Mediocre mobility
  • Low-velocity gun with a slow reload makes long-range shots difficult
  • Poor post-penetration damage with the HEAT shell, and terrible penetration with either APHE

History

The Semovente 75/18 was originally intended to be a self-propelled gun rather than a tank destroyer, with the War Thunder version being an improved variant built upon the M41 tank chassis with improved armour.

In response to the poor effectiveness of existing Italian tank destroyer designs such as the 47/32 L40, the Semovente was pressed into service to combat US-built M3 Lee and Stuart tanks in service with the British Army in North Africa. Utilising a HEAT shell, the Semovente proved to be an effective counter to early-war British tanks, with its small size making it ideal for dug-in defensive positions where its lack of speed wasn't an issue.

In one engagement in 1942, Semoventes' of the Ariete Division repelled an attack from 40 British light and medium tanks, destroying 20 with no losses of their own. While the Semoventes' HEAT shell proved effective against early-war tank designs, tougher Allied tanks such as the M4 Sherman proved a new challenge. In addition the Semoventes' cramped interior, low-velocity gun and under-powered engine lead to the development of larger and more powerful dedicated tank destroyer designs with superior firepower

Media

An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

Read also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

ETC.

Sources

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


Italy tank destroyers
  Italy
M41  75/18 M41 · 75/32 M41 · 90/53 M41M
M42  75/34 M42
M43  105/25 M43 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · 75/34 M43 · 75/46 M43
Wheeled  Lancia 3Ro (100/17) · AS 42/47 · Breda 90/53 · Breda 501
Other  L3/33 CC · 47/32 L40
Germany  ▄StuG III G
USA  M36B1 · ▄M109G · M113A1 (TOW)
  Hungary
Zrínyi  Zrinyi I · Zrinyi II
USSR  ◔2S1