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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
 
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
 
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
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! 1000 m !! 2500 m !! 5000 m !! 7500 m !! 10000 m !! 15000 m
 
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| 140 mm type 0 HE || HE || 35mm || 35mm || 35mm || 35mm || 35mm || 35mm
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| 140 mm type 0 HE || HE || 35 || 35 || 35 || 35 || 35 || 35
 
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| 140 mm type 2 SAP|| SAP || 59mm || 51mm || 43mm || 38mm || 35mm || 35mm
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| 140 mm type 2 SAP|| SAP || 59 || 51 || 43 || 38 || 35 || 35
 
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| 140 mm type 0 HE|| HE-DF || 35mm || 35mm || 35mm || 35mm || 35mm || 35mm
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| 140 mm type 0 HE|| HE-DF || 35 || 35 || 35 || 35 || 35 || 35
 
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| 140 mm type 1 SAP|| SAPBC || 112mm || 97mm || 81mm || 70mm || 62mm || 54mm
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| 140 mm type 1 SAP|| SAPBC || 112 || 97 || 81 || 70 || 62 || 54
 
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
 
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
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! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (kg)
 
! rowspan="2" | Normalisation at 30°<br>from horizontal
 
! rowspan="2" | Normalisation at 30°<br>from horizontal
 
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
 
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
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! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 
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| 140 mm type 0 HE || HE || 840 m/s || 37.87 kg || 0.4 m || 0.1 mm || 3.15 kg ||{{gunParam|shell=he_frag|normalization}}
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| 140 mm type 0 HE || HE || 840 || 37.87 || 0.4 || 0.1 || 3.15 ||{{gunParam|shell=he_frag|normalization}}
 
||{{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|0}}
 
||{{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|0}}
 
||{{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|50}}
 
||{{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|50}}
 
||{{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|100}}  
 
||{{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|100}}  
 
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| 140 mm type 2 SAP|| SAP || 701 m/s || 37.9 kg || 6 m || 5 mm || 2.96 kg ||{{gunParam|shell=sap_tank |normalization}}
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| 140 mm type 2 SAP|| SAP || 701 || 37.9 || 6 || 5 || 2.96 ||{{gunParam|shell=sap_tank |normalization}}
 
||47°
 
||47°
 
||60°
 
||60°
 
||65°
 
||65°
 
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| 140 mm type 0 HE|| HE-DF || 850 m/s || 37.9 kg || 0.1 m || 0.1 mm || 3.15 kg || {{gunParam|shell= he_vt |normalization}}  
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| 140 mm type 0 HE|| HE-DF || 850 || 37.9 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 3.15 || {{gunParam|shell= he_vt |normalization}}  
 
|| {{gunParam|shell= he_vt |ricochet|0}}
 
|| {{gunParam|shell= he_vt |ricochet|0}}
 
|| {{gunParam|shell= he_vt |ricochet|50}}
 
|| {{gunParam|shell= he_vt |ricochet|50}}
 
|| {{gunParam|shell= he_vt |ricochet|100}}
 
|| {{gunParam|shell= he_vt |ricochet|100}}
 
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| 140 mm type 1 SAP|| SAPBC || 855 m/s || 37.87 kg || 6 m || 5 mm || 2.21 kg ||{{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|normalization}}
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| 140 mm type 1 SAP|| SAPBC || 855 || 37.87 || 6 || 5 || 2.21 ||{{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|normalization}}
 
||{{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|ricochet|0}}
 
||{{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|ricochet|0}}
 
||{{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|ricochet|50}}
 
||{{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|ricochet|50}}

Revision as of 16:23, 9 April 2020

Description

140 mm/50 3rd Year Type (140 mm) onboard IJN Kuma firing at the enemy

140 mm/50 3rd Year Type (140 mm) is a main gun type on an early Japanese Light Cruisers. It's a relatively competent weapon, offering good performance against enemy ships, however being unable to effectively engage hostile airplanes.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

General info

Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.

Available ammunition

Standard HE shell is a relatively good all-rounder, that should be taken to every match, it's useful primarily against Destroyers and Motor Torpedo Boats. Type 2 SAP (Tier I modification) shells are comparatively weak, with little direct damage and mediocre fragmentation damage, despite having larger explosive filler than its successor. Their usefulness is limited to taking down engines and transmissions. They are wholly superseded by Type 1 SAP (Tier III modification) that has both: higher damage upon piercing the component and higher fragmentation damage. Finally, the HE-DF shells (under the same designation as the regular HE shells - type 0 HE) are dedicated anti-air shells, however, due to poor vertical guidance (+20° or +30°, depending on the mount, compared to +75° on Type 3 guns) their effectiveness is severely limited. Note that HE-DF shells are inefficient even against wooden boats, as they will explode at a significant distance in front of the target, doing negligible damage to anything that is not moving >100 km/h towards the shell.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
1000 m 2500 m 5000 m 7500 m 10000 m 15000 m
140 mm type 0 HE HE 35 35 35 35 35 35
140 mm type 2 SAP SAP 59 51 43 38 35 35
140 mm type 0 HE HE-DF 35 35 35 35 35 35
140 mm type 1 SAP SAPBC 112 97 81 70 62 54
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg)
Normalisation at 30°
from horizontal
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
140 mm type 0 HE HE 840 37.87 0.4 0.1 3.15

79°

80°

81°

140 mm type 2 SAP SAP 701 37.9 6 5 2.96 +4° 47° 60° 65°
140 mm type 0 HE HE-DF 850 37.9 0.1 0.1 3.15

79°

80°

81°

140 mm type 1 SAP SAPBC 855 37.87 6 5 2.21 +4°

48°

63°

71°

Comparison with analogues

Comparing to the primary weapons on the ships of the same BR 140 mm/50 3rd Year Type (140 mm) is grossly outmatched in terms of caliber, which results in low muzzle velocity, TNT equivalents, and penetration capabilities. Lacking firepower is not helped by the number of barrels available on the ships bearing the gun, offering at most 6 shells fired at the same time, which is about average for the BR. Concluding, the 3rd Year Type can be considered the weakest cannon among its peers.

Type 0 HE

Cannon Shell Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg)
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) Ricochet
1000 m 10,000 m 0% 100%
140 mm/50 3rd Year Type (140 mm) 140 mm type 0 HE HE 840 3.15 35mm 35mm

79°

81°

6 inch/53 Mk.12 (152 mm) 6 inch Mk.34 HC HE 914 5.88 49mm 49mm

79°

81°

15 cm/48 KC/36 (150 mm) 15 cm Spgr. L/4.5 Kz (m.Hb) HE 835 3.91 37mm 37mm

79°

81°

180 mm/60 B-1-K (180 mm) 180 mm OF-32 HE 920 12.17 65mm 65mm

79°

81°

6 inch/45 BL Mark XII (152 mm) 6 inch HE HE 853 6 50mm 50mm

79°

81°

Type 1 SAP

Cannon Shell Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg)
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) Ricochet
1000 m 10,000 m 0% 100%
140 mm/50 3rd Year Type (140 mm) 140 mm type 1 SAP SAPBC 855 2.21 112mm 62mm

48°

71°

6 inch/53 Mk.12 (152 mm) 6 inch Mk.27 SC SP Common 914 977.06 160mm 90mm

48°

71°

15 cm/48 KC/36 (150 mm) 15 cm Spgr. L/4.4 Bdz (m.Hb) SAPBC 960 3.32 141mm 79mm

48°

71°

15 cm/48 KC/36 (150 mm) 15 cm Spgr. L/3.7 (m.Hb) APCBC 960 1.32 281mm 157mm

48°

71°

180 mm/60 B-1-K (180 mm) 180 mm PB-32 SAPCBC 920 10.78 204mm 130mm

48°

71°

6 inch/45 BL Mark XII (152 mm) 6 inch CPBC SAPBC 853 3.4 133mm 74mm

48°

71°

Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

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Pros:

Cons:

History

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Media

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See also

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External links

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Japan naval cannons
20 mm  JM61 · Type 98
25 mm  25 mm/60 Type 96
37 mm  Type 4 · Type 11 pattern 1922
40 mm  40 mm/62 Vickers
57 mm  Type 97
75 mm  Type 88 AA
76 mm  3-inch/40 Type 41 · 8 cm/40 3rd Year Type · 8 cm/60 Type 98
100 mm  100/65 mm Type 98 mod A
120 mm  120 mm/45 3rd Year Type · 120 mm/45 10th year type
127 mm  5 inch/40 Type 89 · 127 mm/50 3rd Year Type
140 mm  140 mm/50 3rd Year Type
152 mm  6-inch/45 Type 41 · 15 cm/50 Type 41
155 mm  155 mm/60 3rd Year Type
200 mm  20 cm 3rd year type No.1
203 mm  20 cm/45 Type 41 · 20 cm/50 3rd year type No.2
356 mm  36 cm/45 Type 41
410 mm  410 mm/45 Type 3
  Foreign:
20 mm  20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II (USA/Britain)
40 mm  Bofors L/60 Mark 1 (USA) · Bofors L/60 Mark 2 (USA) · Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (USA)
47 mm  3 pdr QF Hotchkiss (Britain)
76 mm  3-inch Mark 10 (USA) · 3 inch Mk.33 (USA) · 3-inch Mk.34 (USA)
120 mm  4,7-inch/40 Armstrong (Britain)
127 mm  5 inch/38 Mk.12 (USA)
305 mm  12-inch/45 Vickers (Britain) · 12-inch/50 Vickers (Britain)