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| − | '' | + | ''The MS-15 as armor have 40mm of wood in the hull and the structure 15mm of wood, this ship can be easily destroyed by HE belts, meanwhile for the survivability have a crew of 19 people this basically can be killed very easily by other ships.'' |
=== Mobility === | === Mobility === | ||
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| − | '' | + | ''The MS-15 is powered by 3 Isotta Fraschini “ASSO” Engines that provides 52 km/h of speed (Upgraded 61 Km/h), if you gonna play the MS-53 you are gonna see that it’s more slower that the MS-15 because the MS-15 carry less Additional Armament.'' |
| − | {{NavalMobility}} | + | ''Meanwhile the speed rotation and manoeuvrability are good for his BR, with this you can dodge shots.''{{NavalMobility}} |
=== Modifications and economy === | === Modifications and economy === | ||
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{{main|20 mm/65 Breda (20 mm)}} | {{main|20 mm/65 Breda (20 mm)}} | ||
| − | '' | + | ''As main armament the MS-15 uses 2 cannons of 20 in specific 20/65 Breda cannon, already seen previously with the VAS 201 and other ships these cannons cause little damage, and is divided into magazines every 12 shots the cannon will reload and this is a bad thing because if there is rough sea it will be difficult to hit the targets.'' |
=== Additional armament === | === Additional armament === | ||
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{{main|S.I. 270/533X6.84 Tipo L (533 mm)|S.I.270 (533 mm)|B TG depth charge}} | {{main|S.I. 270/533X6.84 Tipo L (533 mm)|S.I.270 (533 mm)|B TG depth charge}} | ||
| − | '' | + | ''As additional armament MS-15 can at best carry as additional armament:'' |
| + | |||
| + | * ''Two Torpedoes S.I.270'' | ||
| + | * ''Two Torpedoes W.200/450X5,75'' | ||
| + | * ''Twelve B TG'' | ||
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| + | ''The Torpedoes S.I.270 have a maximum speed of 93 km/h (81 km/h with torpedo mode), 270kg of explosive and a range of 4 Km (8 Km with torpedo mode).'' | ||
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| + | ''And finally the depth charges B TG have 50 Kg of Explosive.'' | ||
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| + | ''Remember to use your Torpedoes in a good time because you have only 2 and don’t have a very big range.'' | ||
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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| − | '' | + | ''The MS-15 is a normal gaming ship - its biggest disadvantages are small magazines, and no protection whatsoever.'' |
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| + | ''it is a good rapid ship for its battle grade, the best advice I can give you is not to attack frontally or go in the mouth of the enemy but to go around them and shoot them from the side, you will immediately notice the little damage it causes so I recommend using 2 belts one AP for tough targets and armored and the other HE for targets little armored, use your torpedoes when you are very sure that it gonna it because you have a limit range.'' | ||
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
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| + | * Good speed (61 km/h) | ||
| + | * Good rotation time | ||
| + | * Good torpedoes | ||
* | * | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
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| + | * No armor | ||
| + | * The 20mm has small magazines and a slow rate of fire | ||
| + | * Terrible survivability (compared to other ships) | ||
| + | * No Anti-Aircraft | ||
* | * | ||
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Some vessels of the type also served with the Kriegsmarine, particularly those which were captured by the Germans following the signing of the armistice in September of 1943. Of the 36 CRDA 60t torpedo boats, 16 were lost in action during the war. Many surviving units continued serving with the Italian Navy postwar and well into the Cold War, thanks to modernization programs. A handful of the surviving units were also handed over to the French and Soviet Navies respectively under the armistice treaty conditions. The last of the highly modernized CRDA 60t torpedo boats was decommissioned as late as 1979, marking the end of a 37-year service career. | Some vessels of the type also served with the Kriegsmarine, particularly those which were captured by the Germans following the signing of the armistice in September of 1943. Of the 36 CRDA 60t torpedo boats, 16 were lost in action during the war. Many surviving units continued serving with the Italian Navy postwar and well into the Cold War, thanks to modernization programs. A handful of the surviving units were also handed over to the French and Soviet Navies respectively under the armistice treaty conditions. The last of the highly modernized CRDA 60t torpedo boats was decommissioned as late as 1979, marking the end of a 37-year service career. | ||
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| + | == '''History''' == | ||
| + | Motosiluranti = Torpedo Boat | ||
| + | |||
| + | The Italian Motosiluranti (MS) are medium sized ships, with good maneuverability and speed, and with the property of carrying torpedoes to destroy ships, particularly large ones. | ||
| + | |||
| + | The Italian designers and admirals tried to obtain the design plans of the Lürseen motor torpedo boats, that is S-38, S-38b and S-100 but they did not succeed, therefore they decided to use a sort of Reverse Engineering, but adapting to the new hulls some construction techniques already tested, but not only, 3 Isotta Fraschini "ASSO" engines were used, guaranteeing a speed of not more than 32.5 knots. | ||
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| + | 1st Group | ||
| + | |||
| + | In 1941 18 units of 62 Tons were ordered to CRDA of Monfalcone, armed with 2 torpedo launchers of 533mm, 2 cannons of 20mm and jet bombs, the boats were numbered MS-11 in groups of 6 and every 6 units was a squadron of torpedo motorboats delivered in 1942. | ||
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| + | In the Section formed by MS-16 and MS-22, goes the honor of having sunk the British light cruiser Manchester, during the battle of Mid-August 1942 | ||
| + | |||
| + | 2nd Group | ||
| + | |||
| + | In 1942-1943 the 2ndGroup was created with 18 new units, from MS-51 onwards, larger armed with 2 x 533mm and 2 x 450mm torpedo launchers, with more depth charges and 2 x 20mm guns. | ||
| + | |||
| + | After WW2, the surviving MSs in the years 1960-1962 were refitted with new armaments such as 40mm Bofors and other armaments, these being the MS-472, MS-473 and others. | ||
| + | |||
| + | They were retired from service in 1975 and eventually disbarred in 1979. | ||
| + | |||
| + | == '''MS-15 History''' == | ||
| + | [[File:MS-15.png|thumb|MS-15 during sail]] | ||
| + | MS-15 was one of the unit of the 1st Group and series to be created. | ||
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| + | In service in 1942, sunk in October 1943, during the cobelligerence, by German air attack in the port of Leros in the Egeo Sea. | ||
== Media == | == Media == | ||
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* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' --> | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' --> | ||
''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ||
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* ''reference to the series of the ship;'' | * ''reference to the series of the ship;'' | ||
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | ||
Revision as of 19:11, 30 November 2021
| This page is about the Italian motor torpedo boat MS-15. For other versions, see MS (Family). |
Contents
Description
The CRDA 60t(1a), MS-15 is a rank II Italian motor torpedo boat with a battle rating of 1.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Starfighters".
General info
Survivability and armour
The MS-15 as armor have 40mm of wood in the hull and the structure 15mm of wood, this ship can be easily destroyed by HE belts, meanwhile for the survivability have a crew of 19 people this basically can be killed very easily by other ships.
Mobility
The MS-15 is powered by 3 Isotta Fraschini “ASSO” Engines that provides 52 km/h of speed (Upgraded 61 Km/h), if you gonna play the MS-53 you are gonna see that it’s more slower that the MS-15 because the MS-15 carry less Additional Armament.
Meanwhile the speed rotation and manoeuvrability are good for his BR, with this you can dodge shots. {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" ! colspan="4" | Mobility Characteristics |- ! rowspan="2" | Game Mode ! rowspan="2" | Upgrade Status ! colspan="2" | Maximum Speed (km/h) ! rowspan="2" style="display:none;"| Turn Time (s) ! rowspan="2" style="display:none;"| Turn Radius (m) |- ! Forward ! Reverse |- | rowspan="2" | AB | style="display:none;"| Stock | style="display:none;"| ___ | style="display:none;"| ___ | style="display:none;"| | style="display:none;"| |- | Upgraded || 86 || 33 | style="display:none;"| | style="display:none;"| |- | rowspan="2" | RB/SB | style="display:none;"| Stock | style="display:none;"| ___ | style="display:none;"| ___ | style="display:none;"| | style="display:none;"| |- | Upgraded || 61 || 23 | style="display:none;"| | style="display:none;"| |- |}
Modifications and economy
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Armament
Primary armament
As main armament the MS-15 uses 2 cannons of 20 in specific 20/65 Breda cannon, already seen previously with the VAS 201 and other ships these cannons cause little damage, and is divided into magazines every 12 shots the cannon will reload and this is a bad thing because if there is rough sea it will be difficult to hit the targets.
Additional armament
As additional armament MS-15 can at best carry as additional armament:
- Two Torpedoes S.I.270
- Two Torpedoes W.200/450X5,75
- Twelve B TG
The Torpedoes S.I.270 have a maximum speed of 93 km/h (81 km/h with torpedo mode), 270kg of explosive and a range of 4 Km (8 Km with torpedo mode).
And finally the depth charges B TG have 50 Kg of Explosive.
Remember to use your Torpedoes in a good time because you have only 2 and don’t have a very big range.
Usage in battles
The MS-15 is a normal gaming ship - its biggest disadvantages are small magazines, and no protection whatsoever.
it is a good rapid ship for its battle grade, the best advice I can give you is not to attack frontally or go in the mouth of the enemy but to go around them and shoot them from the side, you will immediately notice the little damage it causes so I recommend using 2 belts one AP for tough targets and armored and the other HE for targets little armored, use your torpedoes when you are very sure that it gonna it because you have a limit range.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Good speed (61 km/h)
- Good rotation time
- Good torpedoes
Cons:
- No armor
- The 20mm has small magazines and a slow rate of fire
- Terrible survivability (compared to other ships)
- No Anti-Aircraft
History
Devblog
In the early years of WWII, the Italian Navy realized the drawbacks of the MAS series of torpedo boats. Namely, the vessels of this type boasted excellent speeds, but had less than ideal seaworthiness. As a result, the Regia Marina began looking into procuring a vessel that would address this problem in the early 1940s.
The answer quickly came with the fall of Yugoslavia and the subsequent seizure of their limited naval force by the Italians. Having found older German-built Schnellboots of the Lürssen type, the Italians soon came to the conclusion that these vessels ideally fitted the current needs of the navy. As such, the captured examples were taken back to Italy and a nigh identical design was derived from them by the shipbuilder CRDA. The design, designated CRDA 60t, only differed in the powerplant choice as well as featuring Italian weaponry, while the rest remained virtually identical to the original.
The first of the CRDA 60t torpedo boats were completed by April of 1942, of which a total of 36 would be built. The CRDA 60t torpedo boats first saw action during WW2 in summer of the same year. One of the most notable successes of their early service career was the fatal injuring of the British light cruiser HMS Manchester, followed by sinking by British ships, caused by MS 16 and MS 22 in August of 1942, also marking the largest target to be destroyed by any motor torpedo boat during WWII.
Some vessels of the type also served with the Kriegsmarine, particularly those which were captured by the Germans following the signing of the armistice in September of 1943. Of the 36 CRDA 60t torpedo boats, 16 were lost in action during the war. Many surviving units continued serving with the Italian Navy postwar and well into the Cold War, thanks to modernization programs. A handful of the surviving units were also handed over to the French and Soviet Navies respectively under the armistice treaty conditions. The last of the highly modernized CRDA 60t torpedo boats was decommissioned as late as 1979, marking the end of a 37-year service career.
History
Motosiluranti = Torpedo Boat
The Italian Motosiluranti (MS) are medium sized ships, with good maneuverability and speed, and with the property of carrying torpedoes to destroy ships, particularly large ones.
The Italian designers and admirals tried to obtain the design plans of the Lürseen motor torpedo boats, that is S-38, S-38b and S-100 but they did not succeed, therefore they decided to use a sort of Reverse Engineering, but adapting to the new hulls some construction techniques already tested, but not only, 3 Isotta Fraschini "ASSO" engines were used, guaranteeing a speed of not more than 32.5 knots.
1st Group
In 1941 18 units of 62 Tons were ordered to CRDA of Monfalcone, armed with 2 torpedo launchers of 533mm, 2 cannons of 20mm and jet bombs, the boats were numbered MS-11 in groups of 6 and every 6 units was a squadron of torpedo motorboats delivered in 1942.
In the Section formed by MS-16 and MS-22, goes the honor of having sunk the British light cruiser Manchester, during the battle of Mid-August 1942
2nd Group
In 1942-1943 the 2ndGroup was created with 18 new units, from MS-51 onwards, larger armed with 2 x 533mm and 2 x 450mm torpedo launchers, with more depth charges and 2 x 20mm guns.
After WW2, the surviving MSs in the years 1960-1962 were refitted with new armaments such as 40mm Bofors and other armaments, these being the MS-472, MS-473 and others.
They were retired from service in 1975 and eventually disbarred in 1979.
MS-15 History
MS-15 was one of the unit of the 1st Group and series to be created.
In service in 1942, sunk in October 1943, during the cobelligerence, by German air attack in the port of Leros in the Egeo Sea.
Media
- Images
See also
Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the ship;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
| Italy boats | |
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| Motor torpedo boats | MC-490 · Freccia P-493 · MAS 555 · MAS 561 · MAS 569 |
| MS-15 · MS-53 · MS-472 · Stefano Turr · VAS 201 · GIS 811 · MS 444 · MC 485 | |
| Motor gun boats | MAS 441 · MS-473 · MV-611 · Alano · Sparviero |
| Motor torpedo gun boats | Saetta P-494 |
| Gunboats | Albatros · Alcione |
