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The '''{{specs|name}}''' is a gift Rank {{specs|rank}} French medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]].
 
The '''{{specs|name}}''' is a gift Rank {{specs|rank}} French medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]].
  
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The AMX-30 is a similar tank to its younger counterpart, the [[AMX-30 (1972)]], with the 20 mm coaxial autocannon replaced by a 12.7 mm heavy machinegun, still able to deal with lightly armoured targets such as SPAA, but doesn't deal the extra punch of an autocannon.
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== General info ==
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=== Survivability and armour ===
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Like the AMX-30 (1972), it lacks a stabilizer and has incredibly weak side armour, but the excellent HEAT shell, comparable to other nations' HEATFS shells, the reasonable front armour (most tanks will still one-shot you though) and the good mobility make up for it.
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The HEAT shell is comparable to other nations' HEATFS shells, and has a good penetration amount (400 mm flat), but will often bounce on angled surfaces. When the shell penetrates, it usually causes enough shrapnel to one-shot a tank. In a fight against lightly armoured vehicles, like SPAA, the HEAT round will often cause hull breaks.
 
  
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The armour only reaches 190 mm at some angled parts of the front, the turret goes 100mm at best, some rank I vehicles like the Panzer IV E could take you on frontally and easily win.
 
The armour only reaches 190 mm at some angled parts of the front, the turret goes 100mm at best, some rank I vehicles like the Panzer IV E could take you on frontally and easily win.
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The mobility, which is good but unexceptional, can be both a blessing and a curse, since, due to said lack of stabilizer, you will not be able to shoot accurately while on the move.
 
  
 
Be wary, also, of your ridiculously tall cupola, you can be destroyed even if you are behind cover just because of it.
 
Be wary, also, of your ridiculously tall cupola, you can be destroyed even if you are behind cover just because of it.
  
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| Hull || 79 mm (57-68°), 50 mm (52-76°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 79 mm (0-57°), 30 mm (75°) ''Lower glacis'' || 35-57 mm (0-35) <br> 30 mm ''Bottom'' <br> 25 mm (70°) ''Belly'' || 30 mm (10°) ''Top'' <br> 30 mm ''Center'' <br> 25 mm (70°) ''Bottom'' || 15 mm <br> 8 mm ''Engine grille''
 
| Hull || 79 mm (57-68°), 50 mm (52-76°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 79 mm (0-57°), 30 mm (75°) ''Lower glacis'' || 35-57 mm (0-35) <br> 30 mm ''Bottom'' <br> 25 mm (70°) ''Belly'' || 30 mm (10°) ''Top'' <br> 30 mm ''Center'' <br> 25 mm (70°) ''Bottom'' || 15 mm <br> 8 mm ''Engine grille''
 
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| Turret || 30-150 mm (0-79°) ''Gun mantlet'' <br> 30 mm (61-75°) ''Turret front top'' || 41.5 mm (19-47°) || 30 mm (1-64°) <br> 20 mm (54-64°) ''Turret underside'' || 20 mm
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| Turret || 30-150 mm (0-79°) ''Gun mantlet'' <br> 30 mm (61-75°) ''Turret front top'' || 41.5 mm (19-47°) || 30 mm (1-64°) <br> 20 mm (54-64°) ''Turret underside'' || 20 mm
 
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! Armour !! Sides !! Roof  
 
! Armour !! Sides !! Roof  
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=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
 
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The mobility, which is good but unexceptional, can be both a blessing and a curse, since, due to said lack of stabilizer, you will not be able to shoot accurately while on the move.
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{{main|CN-105-F1 (105 mm)}}
 
{{main|CN-105-F1 (105 mm)}}
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The AMX-30 is a similar tank to its younger counterpart, the [[AMX-30 (1972)]], with the 20 mm coaxial autocannon replaced by a 12.7 mm heavy machinegun, still able to deal with lightly armoured targets such as SPAA, but doesn't deal the extra punch of an autocannon.
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Like the AMX-30 (1972), it lacks a stabilizer and has incredibly weak side armour, but the excellent HEAT shell, comparable to other nations' HEATFS shells, the reasonable front armour (most tanks will still one-shot you though) and the good mobility make up for it.
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The HEAT shell is comparable to other nations' HEATFS shells, and has a good penetration amount (400 mm flat), but will often bounce on angled surfaces. When the shell penetrates, it usually causes enough shrapnel to one-shot a tank. In a fight against lightly armoured vehicles, like SPAA, the HEAT round will often cause hull breaks.
  
 
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First (the most dangerous), you can try getting behind the enemy lines and attacking the SPAA, you will often get hull breaks thanks to the HEAT round, be wary of bushes however, they will stop your HEAT shells, you can attempt to take on enemy tanks, provided it is from the side, and you can hit the ammunition (HEAT will rarely cause fire, and the weak shrapnel makes it hard to take out entire crews).
 
First (the most dangerous), you can try getting behind the enemy lines and attacking the SPAA, you will often get hull breaks thanks to the HEAT round, be wary of bushes however, they will stop your HEAT shells, you can attempt to take on enemy tanks, provided it is from the side, and you can hit the ammunition (HEAT will rarely cause fire, and the weak shrapnel makes it hard to take out entire crews).
  
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Second, stay with your team, ideally behind another tank (do NOT lead the formation, it's a death sentence), use your HEAT shells to disable tracks or take out one or two crew members and ease the task of your teammates.
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Second, stay with your team, ideally behind another tank (do ''not'' lead the formation, it'll paint a target onto the tank), use your HEAT shells to disable tracks or take out one or two crew members and ease the task of your teammates.
  
 
Compared to the vehicles it will face, the AMX-30 ranges from Inferior to Harmless, every enemy vehicle should be regarded the same way, as major threats that will destroy it in a couple of hits at best. Aiming for the ammunition is the only way for you.
 
Compared to the vehicles it will face, the AMX-30 ranges from Inferior to Harmless, every enemy vehicle should be regarded the same way, as major threats that will destroy it in a couple of hits at best. Aiming for the ammunition is the only way for you.

Revision as of 16:43, 31 March 2019

AMX-30
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AMX-30
France flag.png France
V Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
8.0 8.0 8.0
Class:
PREMIUM
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This page is about the premium/pack AMX-30. For other uses, see AMX-30 (Family).

Description

GarageImage AMX-30.jpg


The AMX-30 is a gift Rank V French medium tank with a battle rating of 8.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm".

General info

Survivability and armour

The armour only reaches 190 mm at some angled parts of the front, the turret goes 100mm at best, some rank I vehicles like the Panzer IV E could take you on frontally and easily win.

Be wary, also, of your ridiculously tall cupola, you can be destroyed even if you are behind cover just because of it.

Armour type:

  • Cast homogeneous armour
  • Rolled homogeneous armour (Hull roof, Hull sides)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 79 mm (57-68°), 50 mm (52-76°) Front glacis
79 mm (0-57°), 30 mm (75°) Lower glacis 		35-57 mm (0-35)
30 mm Bottom
25 mm (70°) Belly 		30 mm (10°) Top
30 mm Center
25 mm (70°) Bottom 		15 mm
8 mm Engine grille
Turret 30-150 mm (0-79°) Gun mantlet
30 mm (61-75°) Turret front top 		41.5 mm (19-47°) 30 mm (1-64°)
20 mm (54-64°) Turret underside 		20 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 60 mm 20 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick.

Mobility

The mobility, which is good but unexceptional, can be both a blessing and a curse, since, due to said lack of stabilizer, you will not be able to shoot accurately while on the move.

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armour
weight (tons) 		Max speed (km/h)
36.0 N/A 72 (AB)
65 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 1,116 795
Realistic/Simulator 637 720
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 31.00 __.__
Realistic/Simulator 17.69 20.00

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: CN-105-F1 (105 mm)

The AMX-30 is a similar tank to its younger counterpart, the AMX-30 (1972), with the 20 mm coaxial autocannon replaced by a 12.7 mm heavy machinegun, still able to deal with lightly armoured targets such as SPAA, but doesn't deal the extra punch of an autocannon.

Like the AMX-30 (1972), it lacks a stabilizer and has incredibly weak side armour, but the excellent HEAT shell, comparable to other nations' HEATFS shells, the reasonable front armour (most tanks will still one-shot you though) and the good mobility make up for it.

The HEAT shell is comparable to other nations' HEATFS shells, and has a good penetration amount (400 mm flat), but will often bounce on angled surfaces. When the shell penetrates, it usually causes enough shrapnel to one-shot a tank. In a fight against lightly armoured vehicles, like SPAA, the HEAT round will often cause hull breaks.

105 mm CN-105-F1
Capacity Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance 		Stabilizer
50 -8°/+20° ±180° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 28.56Z 39.53 __.__ __.__ 56.47
Realistic 17.85 21.00 25.7 28.4 30.00
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
8.71 7.7 7.1 6.70
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration in mm @ 0° Angle of Attack
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
OCC 105 F1 HEAT 400 400 400 400 400 400
OE 105 F1 Mle.60 HE 26 26 25 25 25 25
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
in m/s 		Projectile
Mass in kg 		Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent): 		Normalization At 30°
from horizontal: 		Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
OCC 105 F1 HEAT 1,000 10.95 0.0 0.1 1,020 +0° 62° 69° 73°
OE 105 F1 Mle.60 HE 700 12.1 0.1 0.1 2,000 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Smoke characteristic
Ammunition Velocity
in m/s 		Projectile
Mass in kg 		Screen radius
in m 		Screen time
in s 		Screen hold time
in s: 		Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
OFPH 105 F1 700 11.4 20 5 25 50
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the AMX-30.
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		6th
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
50 XX (X+)  (+)  (+)  (+)  (+)  (+) no

Machine guns

Main articles: M2HB (12.7 mm), AAN-F1 (7.62 mm)
12.7 mm M2HB
Coaxial mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute) 		Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance
800 (200) 577 -0°/+20° N/A
7.62 mm AAN-F1
Pintle mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute) 		Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance
2,000 (100) 900 -10°/+45° ±120°

Usage in battles

This tank cannot stand a fight on its own, therefore, only two tactics are viable.

First (the most dangerous), you can try getting behind the enemy lines and attacking the SPAA, you will often get hull breaks thanks to the HEAT round, be wary of bushes however, they will stop your HEAT shells, you can attempt to take on enemy tanks, provided it is from the side, and you can hit the ammunition (HEAT will rarely cause fire, and the weak shrapnel makes it hard to take out entire crews).

Second, stay with your team, ideally behind another tank (do not lead the formation, it'll paint a target onto the tank), use your HEAT shells to disable tracks or take out one or two crew members and ease the task of your teammates.

Compared to the vehicles it will face, the AMX-30 ranges from Inferior to Harmless, every enemy vehicle should be regarded the same way, as major threats that will destroy it in a couple of hits at best. Aiming for the ammunition is the only way for you.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Moderate front armour
  • Fuel tank armour surrounding frontal ammo rack, much like Cold War Russian tanks
  • The HEAT shell is comparable to other HEATFS shells of contemporary tanks and can theoretically penetrate up to 400 mm on flat armour
  • Fairly good mobility

Cons:

  • No kinetic ammunition.
  • Very tall cupola
  • Only 30-35mm thick side armour
  • Does not have a stabilizer
  • Lacks the 20mm Autocannon of its tree counterpart, the AMX-30 (1972)
  • Rear turret bustle is pretty much lathered with ammunition when filled
  • Fuel tanks everywhere in hull, front and sides, likely to cause a fire
  • HEAT shell will be stopped by any kind of obstacle, which includes (but is not limited to) bushes, trees, fences, wooden houses, etc.

History

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Media

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See also

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  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • encyclopedia page on the tank;
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France medium tanks
M4 Derivatives  M4A1 (FL10) · M4A4 (SA50)
AMX-50  AMX M4 · AMX-50 (TOA100) · AMX-50 (TO90/930)
AMX-30  AMX-30 · AMX-30 (1972) · AMX-30B2 · AMX-30B2 BRENUS · AMX-30 ACRA · AMX-30 Super
AMX-32/40  AMX-32 · AMX-32 (105) · AMX-40
Leclerc  Leclerc · Leclerc S2 · Leclerc SXXI · Leclerc AZUR
Other  D2 · S.35 · Lorraine 40t
Germany  Panther "Dauphiné"
USA  ▄M4A1 · ▄M4A3 (105) · ▄M4A4 · ▄M26

France premium ground vehicles
Light tanks  AMD.35 (SA35) · H.39 "Cambronne" · LVT-4/40 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-M24 · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963) · VBCI-2 (MCT30)
Medium tanks  M4A1 (FL10) · Panther "Dauphiné" · AMX-30 · AMX-30 Super · AMX-50 (TO90/930)
Heavy tanks  B1 ter · 2C bis · Somua SM
Tank destroyers  Lorraine 155 Mle.50

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