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Su-25

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10.7	10.3	10.7

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Description

The Su-25 is an attack aircraft developed by the Soviet Union in the 1970s. The Su-25, often compared to the American A-10 Thunderbolt II, is meant to offer ground attack and close air support to ground units. The Su-25 has been seen in different variants, some of the most known ones being the Su-25UB, a two seat trainer, the Su-25K, export variant, Su-25T, anti tank version, and Su-25SM, which was planned to be the variant used by the modern Russian Air Force, but due to funding limitations upgrade plans have been unsatisfactory. The Su-25 has been in several wars, including the War in Afghanistan, the Chechen Wars, and the 2008 Russo–Georgian war.

Introduced in Update "Drone Age", the Su-25 "Grach" (NATO reporting name: Frogfoot) is a famous attack jet, often considered a spiritual successor to the IL-2 and the Soviet equivalent of the American A-10 Thunderbolt II. Like the Warthog, the Su-25 has wide, spindly wings with plenty of hardpoints, a sturdy fuselage, significant armour protection for the pilot, and a powerful 30 mm cannon in the fuselage that will shred light targets and unlucky aircraft alike. The two are rather different otherwise: the Grach is less manoeuvrable but has much better speed and climb and its precision weapons use laser guidance instead of TV. While it will have a hard time tangling with enemy fighters in an even engagement, with all-aspect R-60M missiles and a massive supply of large-calibre countermeasures, the Su-25 should not be disregarded in air combat. In its intended role of ground attack, it can lay waste to enemy vehicles with a variety of high-explosive ordnance.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes

Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps

Drogue parachute

Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway

Max speed

at 1 000 m979 km/h

Turn time27 s

Max altitude11 000 m

Engine2 х UMPO R-95SH

TypeJet

Cooling systemAir

Take-off weight18 t

Characteristics	Max speed (km/h at 1,000 m)		Max altitude (metres)	Turn time (seconds)		Rate of climb (metres/second)		Take-off run (metres)
Characteristics	AB	RB	Max altitude (metres)	AB	RB	AB	RB	Take-off run (metres)
Stock	968	961	11000	27.4	28.0	66.8	62.4	850
Upgraded	989	978	11000	26.6	27.0	94.2	79.4	850

Details

Features
Combat flaps	Take-off flaps	Landing flaps	Air brakes	Arrestor gear	Drogue chute
✓	X	✓	✓	X	✓

Limits
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Flaps (km/h)			Max Static G
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Combat	Take-off	Landing	+	-
1,100	420	900	N/A	420	~__	~__

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons	Rudder	Elevators	Radiator
< ___	< ___	< ___	N/A

Engine performance

Engine			Aircraft mass
Engine name		Number	Basic mass		Wing loading (full fuel)
UMPO R-95SH		2	10,236 kg		___ kg/m²
Engine characteristics			Mass with fuel (no weapons load)			Max Gross Weight
Weight (each)	Type		8m fuel	20m fuel	29m fuel	Max Gross Weight
990 kg	Axial-flow turbojet		11,106 kg	12,210 kg	13,136 kg	17,678 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)			Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition	100%	WEP	8m fuel	20m fuel	29m fuel	MGW
Stationary	3,526 kgf	N/A	0.63	0.58	0.54	0.40
Optimal	3,608 kgf (200 km/h)	N/A	0.65	0.59	0.55	0.41

Survivability and armour

Flares/Chaff

Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar

Crew1 person

Speed of destruction

Structural0 km/h

Gear420 km/h

The Su-25 is known for its survivability, anecdotally being able to take a few missile hits without suffering any damage compromising its airworthiness, though this ability is inconsistent and should not be relied upon. The aircraft is fairly resistant to cannon fire (but will fall apart under prolonged exposure), and the Su-25 remains somewhat controllable even upon loss of tail control, wingtips, or an engine. The Su-25 is also equipped with self-sealing fuel tanks and an engine fire-suppression system, which may boost survivability in the event of an engine fire (keep in mind that the fire suppression system shuts down the engine permanently when activated).

The Su-25 possesses 256 countermeasures, launched two at a time: being high-caliber countermeasures, these are highly effective at distracting infrared and radar-guided missiles. Furthermore, the Su-25's lack of afterburner also boosts its survivability: the Su-25's heat signature is significantly lower than other attack aircraft (such as the Su-17/22 or MiG-27), which decreases the range at which infrared-guided missiles can lock onto the Su-25. Keep in mind, however, that high-performing IR missiles such as the AIM-9L or R-60M will have no trouble locking the Su-25 in all aspects.

Chaff is effective against radar-guided SARH missiles and radar-guided SPAA missiles. In ground battles, chaff provides a significant survivability boost to the Su-25, enabling it to evade attacks by enemy radar-guided SPAA. In air battles, chaff is not as useful, due to the lack of effective radar missiles around the Su-25's BR (early radar missiles such as the AIM-7D or R-23R are often combined with poor radars that can be easily notched/distracted with ground clutter): combined with the presence of highly-effective IR-guided missiles, such as the AIM-9L, it may be better to prioritize flares.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB2 991 → 4 381

RB8 554 → 12 531

SB9 547 → 13 986

Total cost of modifications197 400

306 000

Talisman cost2 700

Crew training175 000

Experts620 000

Aces2 600

Research Aces1 010 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

90 / 300 / 600 %

226 / 226 / 226 %

Modifications

Flight performance

Survivability

Weaponry

Compressor

Research:

6 500

Cost:

10 000

340

New boosters

Research:

7 300

Cost:

11 000

380

Wings repair

Research:

8 100

Cost:

13 000

430

Engine

Research:

11 000

Cost:

17 000

580

Fuselage repair

Research:

6 500

Cost:

10 000

340

Airframe

Research:

7 300

Cost:

11 000

380

G-suit

Research:

8 100

Cost:

13 000

430

Cover

Research:

11 000

Cost:

17 000

580

GSh-30-2_belt_pack Research: 6 500 Cost: 10 000 340	ZB-500 Research: 6 500 Cost: 10 000 340	S-8KO Research: 6 500 Cost: 10 000 340	Flares/Chaff Research: 6 500 Cost: 10 000 340
GSh-30-2_new_gun Research: 7 300 Cost: 11 000 380	FAB-250 Research: 7 300 Cost: 11 000 380	S-24 Research: 7 300 Cost: 11 000 380	Kh-25 Research: 7 300 Cost: 11 000 380
Gun pod SPPU-22-01 Research: 8 100 Cost: 13 000 430	FAB-500 Research: 8 100 Cost: 13 000 430	S-25 Research: 8 100 Cost: 13 000 430	40px Kh-29L Research: 8 100 Cost: 13 000 430
ns23_belt_pack Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 580	R-60M Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 580	B-13L Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 580	EFS Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 580

Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns)	CCIP (Rockets)	CCIP (Bombs)	CCRP (Bombs)

Offensive armament

Main article: GSh-30-2 (30 mm)

The Su-25 is armed with:

A choice between two presets:
- 1 x 30 mm GSh-30-2 cannon, chin-mounted (250 rpg)
- 1 x 30 mm GSh-30-2 cannon + 256 x countermeasures

The GSh-30-2 dual-barreled cannon is essentially a scaled up version of the GSh-23 used by MiG-21s and MiG-23s. Soviet helicopter pilots may have seen a long barreled variant on the Mi-24P attack helicopter. It has a great rate of fire with no spool-up and will rip any aircraft it touches to shreds. Against ground targets, it is effective at shredding SPAAs and IFVs, but MBTs will typically require steep top-down approaches (or attack from the rear) that are not easy to achieve in a heavy subsonic aircraft. The GSh-30-2 is less powerful than the A-10's GAU-8 Avenger Gatling gun and has a much smaller ammunition supply, but as a backup weapon for when heavier ordnance is spent, it is more than adequate.

Suspended armament

The Su-25 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10
23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg)				1	1	1	1
100 kg OFAB-100 bombs		4	4	4	4	4	4	4	4
250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs		1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
250 kg OFAB-250Sh bombs		1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs		1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
500 kg FAB-500Sh bombs		1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
ZB-500 incendiary bombs		1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
S-5K rockets		32	32	32	32	32	32	32	32
S-8KO rockets		20	20	20	20	20	20	20	20
S-13OF rockets		5	5	5	5	5	5	5	5
S-24B rockets		1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
S-25O rockets		1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
S-25OF rockets		1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
S-25OFM rockets		1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
Kh-25 missiles			1	1			1	1
Kh-25ML missiles			1	1			1	1
Kh-29L missiles					1	1
R-60 missiles	1									1
R-60M missiles	1									1
S-25L missiles			1	1			1	1
820 l drop tanks			1		1	1		1
Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 1,500 kg

Default weapon presets

4 x 820 l drop tanks
2 x R-60 missiles
2 x R-60M missiles
32 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (3,200 kg total)
8 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (2,000 kg total)
8 x 250 kg OFAB-250Sh bombs (2,000 kg total)
8 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (4,000 kg total)
8 x 500 kg FAB-500Sh bombs (4,000 kg total)
8 x ZB-500 incendiary bombs
256 x S-5K rockets
160 x S-8KO rockets
40 x S-13OF rockets
8 x S-24B rockets
8 x S-25O rockets
4 x Kh-25ML missiles
2 x Kh-29L missiles
4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)

The Su-25 has a very large arsenal and loadouts can be customized to personal taste.

For air-to-air combat, the R-60 and R-60M missiles are available. The "Aphids" are highly manoeuvrable and have a short minimum range, but they are very prone to flares and their small warhead can sometimes feel lacking against durable opponents like the A-10. The R-60M features a superior seeker with better flare resistance and limited all-aspect capability: it is by all means an upgrade over the basic R-60 and should always be selected once unlocked. The capacity of two is enough for self defense but will necessitate frequent returns to the base.

Unguided bombs of many varieties (standard, high-drag, incendiary) can be selected and the maximum bombload of 4 tons is impressive by Soviet standards (although not at the level of the American fighter-bombers like the F-4C). With a full-fledged ballistic computer offering CCIP and CCRP for bombs, it is easy to deliver them accurately. In Ground RB, the CCRP is especially helpful for flying at treetop level to avoid SAMs and popping up to toss bombs at capture points or enemy spawns.

A record of five types of unguided rockets are available. Soviet helicopter pilots may be familiar with the S-5K and S-8KO HEAT rockets, which can be fired in huge swarms: however, the rockets are inaccurate and have limited stopping power against MBTs with composite armour. The S-5K in particular is quite obsolete at the Su-25's battle rating and may even have trouble against MBT side armour at times.

The three sorts of HE rockets are much more effective. The S-13OF is a 122 mm podded rocket that has enough TNT equivalent to destroy light targets easily, even through splash damage, and can still knock out MBTs with direct hits and a bit of luck. The 240 mm S-24B bunker-buster is a well known fixture in the Soviet arsenal, but they are now upstaged by the massive 340 mm S-25 rocket. The best S-25O variant (the OF and OFM should be disregarded) contains 58 kg of TNT, nearly as much as the Tiny Tim, and makes most rockets look like firecrackers. With a maximum flight speed of 555 m/s, the S-25O can be slung at targets from standoff distances with CCIP and still make a huge mess upon impact. Generally, the choice of rockets should be a mix between the S-13OF (capacity) and S-25 (sheer power).

The Su-25 has a number of precision weapons as well, owing to the Klen-PS laser rangefinder/designation system in its nose. The Kh-25ML ("Karen") and Kh-29L ("Kedge") are laser-guided air-to-ground missiles with high speed and very large HE warheads. The S-25L is a laser-guided version of the S-25 with a launch range of 7 km, but unfortunately the TNT equivalent of 20 kg is a shadow of the S-25O's glory and it has a harder time manoeuvring than a true missile. While these weapons are long-ranged and pack a punch, the main issue is the primitive nature of the Klen-PS system, similar to the challenges of the Su-17/22 family and the MiG-27M. It has a poor optical zoom (with no TV camera, the pilot is left only with the view through the cockpit), so spotting tanks at the distances where the full range and accuracy of laser-guided weapons would be useful is difficult; furthermore, the Klen-PS does not have an auto-tracker, so hitting moving targets is difficult (as the pilot must manually track the target, while being wary of enemy SPAA). The limited field of view also forces the Su-25 to essentially joust at whatever it is aiming at, a poor idea when the airspace is contested or SAMs are on the field. Thus, these weapons are situational and many pilots will prefer unguided rockets instead.

Usage in battles

The Su-25 is best suited for low altitude attack runs on enemy ground units. Its multitude of air-to-ground weapons as well as its good survivability allow it to perform close-air support in Ground Realistic Battles very well. However, like the A-10, it needs some finesse in its operation, as it is outperformed by contemporary fighters and can be sent back to the hangar by a good SAM operator if the pilot is not careful. If there are no significant threats around, the Su-25 can fly at medium altitudes, look for targets, and lob HE rockets at them with ease. Otherwise, it is best to maintain a low profile and circle around the battlefield at lower altitudes to better avoid detection from SAMs and enemy fighters. A pair of R-60Ms can effectively dispatch enemy aircraft in sneak attacks, but evicting enemy SAM operators is a more difficult question. The simplest option is to determine where they are located, which in most cases will be the enemy spawn, and figure out an approach that will allow for a sneak attack; a single S-25O landing in the neighbourhood of a SPAA vehicle will usually knock it out of commission. If reliable teammates are available, the laser-guided missiles have some utility. Active scouting and drone target designation will allow the Su-25 to see the location of enemy SAMs and begin a high-altitude missile joust with a Kh-25 or Kh-29 at safer distances, and if the S-25O's 58 kg of TNT was impressive, the Karen/Kedge's 100+ kg of TNT are nothing short of spectacular. Make good use of the Su-25's massive countermeasure capacity, as these are high-calibre countermeasures with strong effects. It should be difficult for enemies to obtain radar or IR locks on the Frogfoot.

In Air Realistic Battles, it still is a force to be reckoned with in terms of ground attack, being able to erase a huge chunk of enemy points if left alone. The large quantity of unguided rockets allows for mass destruction of most ground targets, and the large quantity of bombs allows for two bases to be destroyed in one flight. Additionally, the GSh-30-2 cannon will easily rip through light, medium and heavy tanks from the sides or the rear (the same applies to light pillboxes if aimed at the top/rear). In terms of air-to-air combat, the Su-25 is equipped with plentiful countermeasures and can utilize its excellent R-60M missiles for self-defence, being able to lock onto incoming enemy planes from any direction. Keep in mind that as long as you maintain your speed, you might keep up in a dogfight with an opponent but after a few turns the aircraft will bleed a lot of speed and become very sluggish.

Pros and cons

Pros:

Effective offensive armament, the GSh-30-2 cannon has very high shell velocity and good hitting power
Well armoured airframe, can survive a lot of damage
Decent acceleration
Access to all-aspect R-60M missiles with great tracking
Generous amount of countermeasures
Access to devastating S-25 rockets and laser-guided weapons
Wide array of suspended armament and possibility to create custom loadouts

Cons:

Low maximum speed
Big aircraft, easy to hit
Poor zoom on the Klen-PS system minimizes the effectiveness of guided weapons
Large turn radius
Compression at higher speeds
Can rip its wings in level flight if not careful and in sustained high speed turns

History

After realizing that current supersonic attacks with planes like the Su-7, Su-17, MiG-21, and MiG-23 were not capable of precisely attacking ground forces at high speeds. The Soviet Ministry of Defense started developing a new dedicated attack aircraft meant to operate close to the ground forces and stay alive. The development contract was given to the designer Sukhoi, with the aircraft making its first flight in 1972 and entering production in 1978.

The chosen configuration was a two engine, single seat attacker with big wings for more stable flight at low-medium altitudes. Several early variants of the plane appeared, like the Su-25UB training aircraft. A small number of the Su-25UTGs were produced, modified to land on the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier. More modern variants were produced, including the Su-25T and Su-25TM (aka Su-39), specially designed to be used in anti-tank duties, with improved guidance systems, avionics, and electronic equipment. It was planned to upgrade all old Su-25s in the Russian Air Force to a new standard, the Su-25SM, which included better navigation systems, improved engine, more capable loadouts and better survivability, but it was cancelled due to lack of funding.

The aircraft had good results in the international market, being used by several countries to this day. It had its baptism of fire in the Soviet War in Afghanistan, being used to destroy fortified positions controlled by Afghan rebels. A total of 50 aircraft were deployed, with more than 60,000 sorties and 21 losses by the end of the war. In the Persian Gulf War, the Su-25 had very poor performance; since it needed air superiority to be deployed, most Iraqi Su-25s stayed on the ground, since most of the time they were intercepted and destroyed by coalition fighters. During the Chechen Wars, the Su-25s had mixed performance, in the first war, the Su-25s had very few losses and were capable of wiping out many Chechen aircraft while they were still on the ground. However, during the second war, more units were lost, mainly due to MANPADS with up to 7 aircraft being lost during the conflict. It has seen several more conflicts, and is still a very important asset in the arsenal of many nations for CAS duties.

Media

Skins

Skins and camouflages for the Su-25 from live.warthunder.com.

Videos

The Shooting Range #349 - Arsenal section at 07:26 discusses the Su-25.

The Shooting Range #320 - Metal Beasts section at 00:26 discusses the Su-25.

Su-25 : A Basic Review - Tims Variety

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Difference between revisions of "Su-25"

Latest revision as of 05:23, 6 April 2024

Contents

Description

General info

Flight performance

Details

Engine performance

Survivability and armour

Modifications and economy

Armaments

Offensive armament

Suspended armament

Usage in battles

Pros and cons

History

Media

See also

External links

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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]].
+The Su-25 is an attack aircraft developed by the Soviet Union in the 1970s. The Su-25, often compared to the American [[A-10A|A-10 Thunderbolt II]], is meant to offer ground attack and close air support to ground units. The Su-25 has been seen in different variants, some of the most known ones being the Su-25UB, a two seat trainer, the Su-25K, export variant, Su-25T, anti tank version, and Su-25SM, which was planned to be the variant used by the modern Russian Air Force, but due to funding limitations upgrade plans have been unsatisfactory. The Su-25 has been in several wars, including the War in Afghanistan, the Chechen Wars, and the 2008 Russo–Georgian war.
+Introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]], the Su-25 "Grach" (NATO reporting name: Frogfoot) is a famous attack jet, often considered a spiritual successor to the [[IL-2 (Family)|IL-2]] and the Soviet equivalent of the American [[A-10A|A-10 Thunderbolt II]]. Like the Warthog, the Su-25 has wide, spindly wings with plenty of hardpoints, a sturdy fuselage, significant armour protection for the pilot, and a powerful 30 mm cannon in the fuselage that will shred light targets and unlucky aircraft alike. The two are rather different otherwise: the Grach is less manoeuvrable but has much better speed and climb and its precision weapons use laser guidance instead of TV. While it will have a hard time tangling with enemy fighters in an even engagement, with all-aspect R-60M missiles and a massive supply of large-calibre countermeasures, the Su-25 should not be disregarded in air combat. In its intended role of ground attack, it can lay waste to enemy vehicles with a variety of high-explosive ordnance.
 == General info ==
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-''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
 ! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
-! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at _,___ m)
+! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at 1,000 m)
 ! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 ! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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 ! Stock
-| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | ___
+| 968 || 961 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 27.4 || 28.0 || 66.8 || 62.4 || rowspan="2" | 850
 |-
 ! Upgraded
-| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
+| 989 || 978 || 26.6 || 27.0 || 94.2 || 79.4
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 ! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
 |-
-| ✓ || X || ✓ || ✓ || X || X     <!-- ✓ -->
+| ✓ || X || ✓ || ✓ || X || ✓     <!-- ✓ -->
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 ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 |-
-| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || ___ || ___ || ___ || ~__ || ~__
+| 1,100 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 900 || N/A || 420 || ~__ || ~__
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 ! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 |-
-| colspan="2" | _____ || _
+| colspan="2" | UMPO R-95SH || 2
-| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m<sup>2</sup>
+| colspan="2" | 10,236 kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 |-
 ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
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 |-
 ! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
-! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
+! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 29m fuel
 |-
-| ___ kg || colspan="2" | ___
+| 990 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
-| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
+| 11,106 kg || 12,210 kg || 13,136 kg || 17,678 kg
 |-
 ! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
-! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
+! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
 |-
-! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
+! Condition || 100% || WEP
-! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MGW
+! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 29m fuel || MGW
 |-
-| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
+| ''Stationary'' || 3,526 kgf || N/A
-| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
+| 0.63 || 0.58 || 0.54 || 0.40
 |-
-| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf<br>(_ km/h) || ___ kgf<br>(_ km/h)
+| ''Optimal'' || 3,608 kgf<br>(200 km/h) || N/A
-| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
+| 0.65 || 0.59 || 0.55 || 0.41
 |-
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 {{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
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-''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''
+The Su-25 is known for its survivability, anecdotally being able to take a few missile hits without suffering any damage compromising its airworthiness, though this ability is inconsistent and should not be relied upon. The aircraft is fairly resistant to cannon fire (but will fall apart under prolonged exposure), and the Su-25 remains somewhat controllable even upon loss of tail control, wingtips, or an engine. The Su-25 is also equipped with self-sealing fuel tanks and an engine fire-suppression system, which may boost survivability in the event of an engine fire (keep in mind that the fire suppression system shuts down the engine permanently when activated).
+The Su-25 possesses 256 countermeasures, launched two at a time: being high-caliber countermeasures, these are highly effective at distracting infrared and radar-guided missiles. Furthermore, the Su-25's lack of afterburner also boosts its survivability: the Su-25's heat signature is significantly lower than other attack aircraft (such as the Su-17/22 or MiG-27), which decreases the range at which infrared-guided missiles can lock onto the Su-25. Keep in mind, however, that high-performing IR missiles such as the AIM-9L or R-60M will have no trouble locking the Su-25 in all aspects.
+Chaff is effective against radar-guided SARH missiles and radar-guided SPAA missiles. In ground battles, chaff provides a significant survivability boost to the Su-25, enabling it to evade attacks by enemy radar-guided SPAA. In air battles, chaff is not as useful, due to the lack of effective radar missiles around the Su-25's BR (early radar missiles such as the AIM-7D or R-23R are often combined with poor radars that can be easily notched/distracted with ground clutter): combined with the presence of highly-effective IR-guided missiles, such as the AIM-9L, it may be better to prioritize flares.
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 ** 1 x 30 mm GSh-30-2 cannon, chin-mounted (250 rpg)
 ** 1 x 30 mm GSh-30-2 cannon + 256 x countermeasures
+The GSh-30-2 dual-barreled cannon is essentially a scaled up version of the GSh-23 used by MiG-21s and MiG-23s. Soviet helicopter pilots may have seen a long barreled variant on the [[Mi-24P]] attack helicopter. It has a great rate of fire with no spool-up and will rip any aircraft it touches to shreds. Against ground targets, it is effective at shredding SPAAs and IFVs, but MBTs will typically require steep top-down approaches (or attack from the rear) that are not easy to achieve in a heavy subsonic aircraft. The GSh-30-2 is less powerful than the A-10's GAU-8 Avenger Gatling gun and has a much smaller ammunition supply, but as a backup weapon for when heavier ordnance is spent, it is more than adequate.
 === Suspended armament ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-Main articles: [[FAB-500M-62 (500 kg)]],[[ZB-500 incendiary]],[[OFAB-250sv (250 kg)]],[[OFAB-100 (100 kg)]]
-''Main articles'': [[S-25O]],[[S-24B]],[[Kh-29L]],[[Kh-25ML]],[[S-13OF]],[[S-8KO]],[[S-5K]]
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
-''Main articles:'' [[R-60]],[[R-60M]]
+{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+|-
+! !! width="4%" | 1 !! width="4%" | 2 !! width="4%" | 3 !! width="4%" | 4 !! width="4%" | 5 !! width="4%" | 6 !! width="4%" | 7 !! width="4%" | 8 !! width="4%" | 9 !! width="4%" | 10
+| rowspan="23" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
+|-
+! [[GSh-23L (23 mm)|23 mm GSh-23L]] cannons (250 rpg)
+| || || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || || ||
+|-
+! [[OFAB-100 (100 kg)|100 kg OFAB-100]] bombs
+| || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 ||
+|-
+! [[OFAB-250sv (250 kg)|250 kg OFAB-250sv]] bombs
+| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
+|-
+! [[OFAB-250Sh (250 kg)|250 kg OFAB-250Sh]] bombs
+| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
+|-
+! [[FAB-500M-62 (500 kg)|500 kg FAB-500M-62]] bombs
+| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
+|-
+! [[FAB-500Sh (500 kg)|500 kg FAB-500Sh]] bombs
+| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
+|-
+! [[ZB-500 incendiary]] bombs
+| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
+|-
+! [[S-5K]] rockets
+| || 32 || 32 || 32 || 32 || 32 || 32 || 32 || 32 ||
+|-
+! [[S-8KO]] rockets
+| || 20 || 20 || 20 || 20 || 20 || 20 || 20 || 20 ||
+|-
+! [[S-13OF]] rockets
+| || 5 || 5 || 5 || 5 || 5 || 5 || 5 || 5 ||
+|-
+! [[S-24B]] rockets
+| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
+|-
+! [[S-25O]] rockets
+| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
+|-
+! [[S-25OF]] rockets
+| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
+|-
+! [[S-25OFM]] rockets
+| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
+|-
+! [[Kh-25]] missiles
+| || || 1 || 1 || || || 1 || 1 || ||
+|-
+! [[Kh-25ML]] missiles
+| || || 1 || 1 || || || 1 || 1 || ||
+|-
+! [[Kh-29L]] missiles
+| || || || || 1 || 1 || || || ||
+|-
+! [[R-60]] missiles
+| 1 || || || || || || || || || 1
+|-
+! [[R-60M]] missiles
+| 1 || || || || || || || || || 1
+|-
+! [[S-25L]] missiles
+| || || 1 || 1 || || || 1 || 1 || ||
+|-
+! 820 l drop tanks
+| || || 1 || || 1 || 1 || || 1 || ||
+|-
+| colspan="11" | Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 1,500 kg
+|-
+|}
-The '''''Su-25''''' can be outfitted with following ordinance presets:
+{{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
+{{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
-* 2 x R-60M Air-to-Air Missiles
+* 4 x 820 l drop tanks
-* 2 x R-60 Air-to-Air Missiles
+* 2 x R-60 missiles
-* 8x FAB-500M-62 bombs (4,000kg total)
+* 2 x R-60M missiles
-* 8 x ZB-500 incendiary bombs
+* 32 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (3,200 kg total)
-* 8 x S-250 rockets
+* 8 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (2,000 kg total)
-* 8 x OFAB-250 bombs (2,000kg total)
+* 8 x 250 kg OFAB-250Sh bombs (2,000 kg total)
+* 8 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (4,000 kg total)
+* 8 x 500 kg FAB-500Sh bombs (4,000 kg total)
+* 8 x ZB-500 incendiary bombs
+* 256 x S-5K rockets
+* 160 x S-8KO rockets
+* 40 x S-13OF rockets
 * 8 x S-24B rockets
-* 2 x Kh-29L rockets
+* 8 x S-25O rockets
-* 4 x Kh-25ML rockets
+* 4 x Kh-25ML missiles
-* 32 x OFAB-100 bombs (3,200kg total)
+* 2 x Kh-29L missiles
-* 40 x S-13OF rockets
+* 4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)
-* 160 x S-8KO rockets
+{{Navigation-End}}
-* 256 x S-5K rockets
-* '''Includes custom loadout'''
+The Su-25 has a very large arsenal and loadouts can be customized to personal taste.
+For air-to-air combat, the R-60 and R-60M missiles are available. The "Aphids" are highly manoeuvrable and have a short minimum range, but they are very prone to flares and their small warhead can sometimes feel lacking against durable opponents like the A-10. The R-60M features a superior seeker with better flare resistance and limited all-aspect capability: it is by all means an upgrade over the basic R-60 and should always be selected once unlocked. The capacity of two is enough for self defense but will necessitate frequent returns to the base.
+Unguided bombs of many varieties (standard, high-drag, incendiary) can be selected and the maximum bombload of 4 tons is impressive by Soviet standards (although not at the level of the American fighter-bombers like the [[F-4C]]). With a full-fledged ballistic computer offering CCIP and CCRP for bombs, it is easy to deliver them accurately. In Ground RB, the CCRP is especially helpful for flying at treetop level to avoid SAMs and popping up to toss bombs at capture points or enemy spawns.
+A record of five types of unguided rockets are available. Soviet helicopter pilots may be familiar with the S-5K and S-8KO HEAT rockets, which can be fired in huge swarms: however, the rockets are inaccurate and have limited stopping power against MBTs with composite armour. The S-5K in particular is quite obsolete at the Su-25's battle rating and may even have trouble against MBT side armour at times.
+The three sorts of HE rockets are much more effective. The S-13OF is a 122 mm podded rocket that has enough TNT equivalent to destroy light targets easily, even through splash damage, and can still knock out MBTs with direct hits and a bit of luck. The 240 mm S-24B bunker-buster is a well known fixture in the Soviet arsenal, but they are now upstaged by the massive 340 mm S-25 rocket. The best S-25O variant (the OF and OFM should be disregarded) contains 58 kg of TNT, nearly as much as the [[Tiny Tim]], and makes most rockets look like firecrackers. With a maximum flight speed of 555 m/s, the S-25O can be slung at targets from standoff distances with CCIP and still make a huge mess upon impact. Generally, the choice of rockets should be a mix between the S-13OF (capacity) and S-25 (sheer power).
+The Su-25 has a number of precision weapons as well, owing to the Klen-PS laser rangefinder/designation system in its nose. The Kh-25ML ("Karen") and Kh-29L ("Kedge") are laser-guided air-to-ground missiles with high speed and very large HE warheads. The S-25L is a laser-guided version of the S-25 with a launch range of 7 km, but unfortunately the TNT equivalent of 20 kg is a shadow of the S-25O's glory and it has a harder time manoeuvring than a true missile. While these weapons are long-ranged and pack a punch, the main issue is the primitive nature of the Klen-PS system, similar to the challenges of the Su-17/22 family and the MiG-27M. It has a poor optical zoom (with no TV camera, the pilot is left only with the view through the cockpit), so spotting tanks at the distances where the full range and accuracy of laser-guided weapons would be useful is difficult; furthermore, the Klen-PS does not have an auto-tracker, so hitting moving targets is difficult (as the pilot must manually track the target, while being wary of enemy SPAA). The limited field of view also forces the Su-25 to essentially joust at whatever it is aiming at, a poor idea when the airspace is contested or SAMs are on the field. Thus, these weapons are situational and many pilots will prefer unguided rockets instead.
 == Usage in battles ==
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-''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
+The Su-25 is best suited for low altitude attack runs on enemy ground units. Its multitude of air-to-ground weapons as well as its good survivability allow it to perform close-air support in Ground Realistic Battles very well. However, like the A-10, it needs some finesse in its operation, as it is outperformed by contemporary fighters and can be sent back to the hangar by a good SAM operator if the pilot is not careful. If there are no significant threats around, the Su-25 can fly at medium altitudes, look for targets, and lob HE rockets at them with ease. Otherwise, it is best to maintain a low profile and circle around the battlefield at lower altitudes to better avoid detection from SAMs and enemy fighters. A pair of R-60Ms can effectively dispatch enemy aircraft in sneak attacks, but evicting enemy SAM operators is a more difficult question. The simplest option is to determine where they are located, which in most cases will be the enemy spawn, and figure out an approach that will allow for a sneak attack; a single S-25O landing in the neighbourhood of a SPAA vehicle will usually knock it out of commission. If reliable teammates are available, the laser-guided missiles have some utility. Active scouting and drone target designation will allow the Su-25 to see the location of enemy SAMs and begin a high-altitude missile joust with a Kh-25 or Kh-29 at safer distances, and if the S-25O's 58 kg of TNT was impressive, the Karen/Kedge's 100+ kg of TNT are nothing short of spectacular. Make good use of the Su-25's massive countermeasure capacity, as these are high-calibre countermeasures with strong effects. It should be difficult for enemies to obtain radar or IR locks on the Frogfoot.
+In Air Realistic Battles, it still is a force to be reckoned with in terms of ground attack, being able to erase a huge chunk of enemy points if left alone. The large quantity of unguided rockets allows for mass destruction of most ground targets, and the large quantity of bombs allows for two bases to be destroyed in one flight. Additionally, the GSh-30-2 cannon will easily rip through light, medium and heavy tanks from the sides or the rear (the same applies to light pillboxes if aimed at the top/rear). In terms of air-to-air combat, the Su-25 is equipped with plentiful countermeasures and can utilize its excellent R-60M missiles for self-defence, being able to lock onto incoming enemy planes from any direction. Keep in mind that as long as you maintain your speed, you might keep up in a dogfight with an opponent but after a few turns the aircraft will bleed a lot of speed and become very sluggish.
 === Pros and cons ===
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-''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''
 '''Pros:'''
-*
+* Effective offensive armament, the GSh-30-2 cannon has very high shell velocity and good hitting power
+* Well armoured airframe, can survive a lot of damage
+* Decent acceleration
+* Access to all-aspect R-60M missiles with great tracking
+* Generous amount of countermeasures
+* Access to devastating S-25 rockets and laser-guided weapons
+* Wide array of suspended armament and possibility to create custom loadouts
 '''Cons:'''
-*
+* Low maximum speed
+* Big aircraft, easy to hit
+* Poor zoom on the Klen-PS system minimizes the effectiveness of guided weapons
+* Large turn radius
+* Compression at higher speeds
+* Can rip its wings in level flight if not careful and in sustained high speed turns
 == History ==
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-''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
+After realizing that current supersonic attacks with planes like the Su-7, Su-17, MiG-21, and MiG-23 were not capable of precisely attacking ground forces at high speeds. The Soviet Ministry of Defense started developing a new dedicated attack aircraft meant to operate close to the ground forces and stay alive. The development contract was given to the designer Sukhoi, with the aircraft making its first flight in 1972 and entering production in 1978.
+The chosen configuration was a two engine, single seat attacker with big wings for more stable flight at low-medium altitudes. Several early variants of the plane appeared, like the Su-25UB training aircraft. A small number of the Su-25UTGs were produced, modified to land on the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier. More modern variants were produced, including the [[Su-25T]] and Su-25TM (aka [[Su-39]]), specially designed to be used in anti-tank duties, with improved guidance systems, avionics, and electronic equipment. It was planned to upgrade all old Su-25s in the Russian Air Force to a new standard, the Su-25SM, which included better navigation systems, improved engine, more capable loadouts and better survivability, but it was cancelled due to lack of funding.
+The aircraft had good results in the international market, being used by several countries to this day. It had its baptism of fire in the Soviet War in Afghanistan, being used to destroy fortified positions controlled by Afghan rebels. A total of 50 aircraft were deployed, with more than 60,000 sorties and 21 losses by the end of the war. In the Persian Gulf War, the Su-25 had very poor performance; since it needed air superiority to be deployed, most Iraqi Su-25s stayed on the ground, since most of the time they were intercepted and destroyed by coalition fighters. During the Chechen Wars, the Su-25s had mixed performance, in the first war, the Su-25s had very few losses and were capable of wiping out many Chechen aircraft while they were still on the ground. However, during the second war, more units were lost, mainly due to MANPADS with up to 7 aircraft being lost during the conflict. It has seen several more conflicts, and is still a very important asset in the arsenal of many nations for CAS duties.
 == Media ==
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-https://youtu.be/4l8mighOQxw   https://youtu.be/XntxUx1_d78
+;Skins
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=su_25 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+;Videos
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 == See also ==
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 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
-* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
+* [[A-10A]]
-* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
+* [[A-10A Late]]
 == External links ==
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 * ''other literature.'' -->
-* [[wt:en/news/7846-development-su-25-and-su-25k-armor-pecking-rooks-en|Devblog Su-25 and Su-25K: Armor-pecking Rooks]]
+* [[wt:en/news/7846-development-su-25-and-su-25k-armor-pecking-rooks-en|[Devblog] Su-25 and Su-25K: Armor-pecking Rooks]]
+* [[wikipedia:Sukhoi_Su-25|[Wikipedia] Sukhoi Su-25]]
 {{AirManufacturer Sukhoi}}
 {{USSR jet aircraft}}