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This page is about the Japanese tank destroyer Ho-Ni III. For the other vehicle of similar name, see Ho-Ni I.

Ho-Ni III

Ho-Ni I

Chi-Ha LG

Ho-Ni III

AB	RB	SB
2.3	2.3	2.3

Class:

Tank destroyer

Research:4 600

Purchase:16 000

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Description

The Type 3 Ho-Ni III (三式砲戦車「ホニIII」) was a tank destroyer developed by Japan during World War II. It was equipped with a Type 3 75 mm tank gun, which had a high muzzle velocity and could penetrate the armour of US tanks. Unlike its predecessors, the Ho-Ni III had a fully enclosed and armoured casemate that provided protection to the crew from ground and aerial threats. The vehicle was designed to supplement the newer Type 3 Chi-Nu tanks by converting the obsolete Type 97 Chi-Ha hulls into self-propelled guns. The production of the Ho-Ni III started in 1944, but only 31 units were completed due to material shortages and bombing. Most of these vehicles were stationed in the Japanese home islands and never saw combat.

The Ho-Ni III was introduced along with the initial Japanese ground tree in Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai". It is similar to the Type 1 Ho-Ni I, but improved: more crew members, a shorter reload time, and armour for the gun crew. However this comes at the cost of a lower top speed. The gun has high penetration and damage, so enemies can be easily sniped from afar. The armour is weak and most enemies can pierce it easily. Help allies by giving fire support, and use smoke shells to create temporary cover.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back

Hull25 / 25 / 20

Turret25 / 25 / 25

Crew5 people

Visibility75 %

Having 25 mm of armour coverage around the entire gun crew, the Ho-Ni III no longer needs to fear artillery shrapnel or strafing runs from fighter aircraft. Do note however that it's still vulnerable to bombs, rockets and direct artillery hits! However, if the Ho-Ni III takes a hit, likely to survive with more operational crewmembers, as three of them must be knocked out before the vehicle becomes inoperable.

Another small armour increase is seen on the front of the tank, with the driver and radio station protected with another 10 mm of armour, though with this added strength, it still leaves an undesirable total width of a lacking 35 mm.

Armour type:

Rolled homogeneous armour

Armour	Front	Sides	Rear	Roof
Hull	25 mm (12-31°) Front plate 17 mm (80-81°) Front glacis 15 mm (63°) Joint plate 15 mm (37-59°) Lower glacis	25 mm (40°) Top Left 20 mm (24-27°) Top Right 20 mm Bottom	17 mm (69°) Top 20 mm (4-58°) Bottom	12 mm
Superstructure	25 mm (15-16°) Front 25 mm (3-47°) Gun mantlet	25 mm (24-26°)	25 mm (10-11°)	10 mm

Notes:

Suspension wheels and tracks are both 15 mm thick.
Driver's port on the front plate is 10 mm thick.
An extra 10 mm of armour is plated on top of the bow machine gun area, left from the driver's position.

Mobility

Speedforward / back

AB44 / 21 km/h

RB and SB40 / 19 km/h

Number of gears8 forward

2 back

Weight16.8 t

Engine power

AB324 hp

RB and SB170 hp

Power-to-weight ratio

AB19.3 hp/t

RB and SB10.1 hp/t

Game Mode	Max Speed (km/h)		Weight (tons)	Engine power (horsepower)		Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Game Mode	Forward	Reverse	Weight (tons)	Stock	Upgraded	Stock	Upgraded
Arcade	44	21	16.8	241	324	14.35	19.29
Realistic	40	19	16.8	150	170	8.93	10.12

The only drawback of the Ho-Ni III compared to its previous version, is that the tank has a slight decrease in top speed. On flat terrain, it reaches a top speed of 32 km/h, compared to the Ho-Ni I's top speed of 36 km/h.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB600 → 742

RB660 → 816

SB801 → 990

Total cost of modifications8 390

9 380

Talisman cost640

Crew training4 500

Experts16 000

Aces160

Research Aces190 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

40 / 60 / 70 %

118 / 118 / 118 %

Modifications

Mobility

Protection

Firepower

Tracks Research: 560 Cost: 630 80
Suspension Research: 470 Cost: 530 70	Brake System Research: 470 Cost: 530 70
Filters Research: 700 Cost: 790 100
Transmission Research: 910 Cost: 1 000 130	Engine Research: 910 Cost: 1 000 130

Improved Parts

Research:

560

Cost:

630

80

Improved FPE

Research:

470

Cost:

530

70

Crew Replenishment

Research:

700

Cost:

790

100

Horizontal Drive

Research:

560

Cost:

630

80

Adjustment of Fire

Research:

470

Cost:

530

70

Elevation Mechanism

Research:

700

Cost:

790

100

75mm_jp_Smoke_ammo_pack

Research:

910

Cost:

1 000

130

Armaments

Main armament

75 mm Type 3 cannon

Ammunition46 rounds

Reloadbasic crew → aces

7.1 → 5.5 s

Vertical guidance-10° / 20°

Horizontal guidance-10° / 10°

Main article: Type 3 (75 mm)

The Ho-Ni III features a modernized Type 3 75 mm tank gun, based on the 75 mm Type 90 field gun as on the previous Ho-Ni I, still being a great cannon, even with a slightly higher battle rating. With the addition of two dedicated loaders in a fully closed casemate, the gun also gets almost a second cut down on its reload time, making it capable of even more destruction.

75 mm Type 3					Turret rotation speed (°/s)					Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode	Capacity	Vertical	Horizontal	Stabilizer	Stock	Upgraded	Full	Expert	Aced	Stock	Full	Expert	Aced
Arcade	46	-10°/+20°	±10°	N/A	14.09	19.50	23.68	26.20	27.86	7.15	6.33	5.80	5.50
Realistic	46	-10°/+20°	±10°	N/A	9.52	11.20	13.60	15.04	16.00	7.15	6.33	5.80	5.50

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
Ammunition	Type of warhead	10 m	100 m	500 m	1,000 m	1,500 m	2,000 m
Type 1 APHE	APHE	103	101	92	82	73	65
Type 94 HE	HE	12	12	12	12	12	12

Shell details
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	Ricochet
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	0%	50%	100%
Type 1 APHE	APHE	668	6.56	1.3	15	84.8	47°	60°	65°
Type 94 HE	HE	522	6.02	0	0.1	810	79°	80°	81°

Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Screen radius (m)	Screen deploy time (s)	Screen hold time (s)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
Type 90 Smoke	570	5.72	13	5	20	100

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Ho-Ni III

Full ammo	1st rack empty	2nd rack empty	3rd rack empty	4th rack empty	5th rack empty	Visual discrepancy
46	44 (+2)	40 (+6)	36 (+10)	23 (+23)	0 (+46)	No

Notes:

Racks disappear after you've fired all shells in the rack.
Turret flanks empty: 36 (+10) shells

Usage in battles

The Ho-Ni III plays very similar to the Ho-Ni I with the added benefit of two extra crew which cuts down on the reload time for the 75 mm gun.

The starting Japanese player will also be quite accustomed to the handling of the hull, as it still is based on the Chi-Ha. But due to the added weight of the fully enclosed casemate, it is slower compared to its brother Chi-Ha.

With the added benefit of the casemate and crew, the Ho-Ni III sports better survivability, though, most shells will not knock you out in one shot due to having a total of five crew members. The crew isn't out in the open anymore and has sufficient armour from machine-gun fire from both ground & air enemies. Knowing this, you can stand to take more chances of sitting in one location and not have to worry about aircraft making a single pass and taking the vehicle out.

Pros and cons

Pros:

Effective 75 mm gun with APHE can penetrate all enemies at its rank
The -10° of gun depression allows the Ho-Ni III to shoot from the cover of ridgelines or downwards from an elevated position
Fully enclosed crew compartment provides better protection from strafing aircraft
Five-man crew allows three members to be knocked out and still allows the tank to function
Has access to smoke shells which can help hide yourself or blind an enemy

Cons:

The thin armour makes the vehicle less effective in close-quarters engagements
Four of the crew are close together leaving them vulnerable to being knocked out by a single shot
Having no machine gun, the Ho-Ni III will have difficulty to disable vehicles without armour like the GAZ-MM (72-K)
Limited traverse of the gun forces you to turn the vehicle to cover wider fields of fire

History

The Type 3 Ho-Ni III is a self-propelled anti-tank artillery gun. The Ho-Ni III was the third of the Japanese 'tank destroyers', which Japan developed based on inspiration from the German tanks of this class. This SPG was very similar to the previous models of this series, the Ho-Ni I and Ho-Ni II, but surpassed them in multiple ways, embodying all the very best of each of them. The chassis of the medium Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai tank was used as a base, while the Ho-Ni I and II used a simple, unmodernized version of the Type 97 Chi-Ha. The powerful 75 mm Type 90 field cannon was chosen as a gun. In its design, this was a counterpart of the French 85 mm Schneider cannon (85 mle 1927 Schneider). After a small redesign for installation on the tank, this gun was designated the Type 3. The cannon was installed in an armoured non-rotating superstructure which, in contrast to the Ho-Ni I and Ho-Ni II, was fully enclosed on all sides and provided optimal protection for the crew. Additional ammo took the place of the machine gun in the hull, and the SPG's crew was reduced to four (in comparison to the five of the previous vehicles in this series).

Ho-Ni series SPGs went into production in 1942, and the order to design and produce the upgraded Ho-Ni III was received by the Hitachi firm in the beginning of 1944. Due to a shortage of resources and constant bombings, the Japanese industry was only able to produce roughly 35 Ho-Ni III SPGs before the end of the war. Most of them were distributed among divisions tasked with defending Japan itself, while only a few were sent to areas of active military operations such as Okinawa and the Philippines. No records survive of military clashes between the Ho-Ni III and American tanks.

- From Devblog

Media

Skins

Skins and camouflages for the Ho-Ni III from live.warthunder.com.

External links

*Hitachi, Ltd. (株式会社日立製作所)*
SPG	Ho-Ni I · Ho-Ni III

Japan tank destroyers
Ro-Go Derivatives	Ro-Go Exp.
Chi-Ha Derivatives	Ho-Ni I · Ho-Ni III · Ho-Ro · Chi-Ha LG
Ho-Ri	Ho-Ri Prototype · Ho-Ri Production
Other	Na-To
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SPRG	Type 60 (C)
SPH	Type 75 · Type 99
ATGM	Type 60 ATM
Rocket	Type 75 MLRS
USA	▅M36

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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' ({{Annotation|三式砲戦車「ホニIII」|San-Shiki Hō-Sensha [Ho-Ni III]}}) is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced along with the entire Japanese Ground Forces tree in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]]. It handles and plays very similarly to the Ho-Ni I before it, but has been refined with the addition of more crew, a faster reload time, and most importantly, armour around the gun crew. However, it pays a slight cost of reduced top speed.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' ({{Annotation|三式砲戦車「ホニIII」|San-Shiki Hō-Sensha [Ho-Ni III]}}) was a tank destroyer developed by Japan during World War II. It was equipped with a [[Type 3 (75 mm)|Type 3 75 mm tank gun]], which had a high muzzle velocity and could penetrate the armour of US tanks. Unlike its predecessors, the Ho-Ni III had a fully enclosed and armoured casemate that provided protection to the crew from ground and aerial threats. The vehicle was designed to supplement the newer [[Chi-Nu|Type 3 Chi-Nu]] tanks by converting the obsolete [[Chi-Ha (Family)|Type 97 Chi-Ha]] hulls into self-propelled guns. The production of the Ho-Ni III started in 1944, but only 31 units were completed due to material shortages and bombing. Most of these vehicles were stationed in the Japanese home islands and never saw combat.
+The Ho-Ni III was introduced along with the initial Japanese ground tree in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]]. It is similar to the [[Ho-Ni I|Type 1 Ho-Ni I]], but improved: more crew members, a shorter reload time, and armour for the gun crew. However this comes at the cost of a lower top speed. The gun has high penetration and damage, so enemies can be easily sniped from afar. The armour is weak and most enemies can pierce it easily. Help allies by giving fire support, and use smoke shells to create temporary cover.
 == General info ==
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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:Type 3 (75 mm)/Ammunition|Type 1 APHE, Type 94 HE, Type 90 Smoke}}
-! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
-|-
-! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
-! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
-! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
-|-
-! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
-|-
-| Type 1 APHE || APHE || 103 || 101 || 92 || 82 || 73 || 65
-|-
-| Type 94 HE || HE || 12 || 12 || 12 || 12 || 12 || 12
-|-
-|}
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
-! colspan="10" | Shell details
-|-
-! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
-! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
-! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
-! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
-! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
-! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
-! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
-! colspan="3" | Ricochet
-|-
-! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
-|-
-| Type 1 APHE || APHE || 668 || 6.56 || 1.3 || 15 || 84.8 || 47° || 60° || 65°
-|-
-| Type 94 HE || HE || 522 || 6.02 || 0 || 0.1 || 810 || 79° || 80° || 81°
-|-
-|}
-{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
-! colspan="7" | Smoke shell characteristics
-|-
-! Ammunition
-! Velocity<br>(m/s)
-! Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
-! Screen radius<br>(m)
-! Screen deploy time<br>(s)
-! Screen hold time<br>(s)
-! Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
-|-
-| Type 90 Smoke || 570 || 5.72 || 13 || 5 || 20 || 100
-|-
-|}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=jp_type_3_ho_ni_III Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
-;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|VI9AICEALR4|'''Type 3 Ho-Ni III Tank Review''' - ''NUSensei''}}
 == See also ==
-<!-- ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
+<!--''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
-* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
+* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''-->
-;Predecessor:
-* [[Ho-Ni I]]
+;Related Development
+* [[Chi-Ha (Family)]]
+** [[Ho-Ni I]] - <small>(Predecessor)</small>
+** [[Ho-Ro]] - <small>(Howitzer tank variant)</small>
-;Other vehicles using [[Chi-Ha]] chassis:
+;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
-* [[Chi-Ha Short Gun]]
+* [[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|30px|link=]] [[75/34 M43]]
-* [[Chi-Ha LG]]
+* [[File:Germany flag.png|30px|link=]] [[StuG III (Family)]]
-* [[Ho-Ro]]
+* [[File:Kingdom Hungary flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Zrinyi I]]
+* [[File:USSR flag.png|30px|link=]] [[SU-76D]] / [[SU-57B]]
+* [[File:France flag.png|30px|link=]] [[SAu 40]]
+* [[File:Sweden flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Sav m/43 (1944)]]
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Difference between revisions of "Ho-Ni III"

Latest revision as of 00:34, 26 June 2024

Contents

Description

General info

Survivability and armour

Mobility

Modifications and economy

Armaments

Main armament

Ammunition

Ammo racks

Usage in battles

Pros and cons

History

Media

See also

External links