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<div>{{Specs-Card|code=b-17e_late}}<br />
{{About<br />
| about = American heavy bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}'''<br />
| usage = other uses<br />
| link = B-17 (Family)<br />
}}<br />
== Description ==<br />
<!--''In the description, the first part needs to be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle. If the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle it is talking about.''--><br />
[[File:GarageImage_B-17EL.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]<br />
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American heavy bomber {{Battle-rating}}}. This bomber has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.29.<br />
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The B-17 Flying Fortress has the sole purpose of being a high-altitude bomber targeting land fortifications, airfields and bases. Despite its impressive bomb capacity, it is not recommended to target moving ground units, such as tanks or armoured cars, especially when they are travelling in tight columns due to the inaccuracy of your bombs at high altitudes and the ability for the AI on the ground to perform evasive manoeuvres when bombs are falling onto their position. When you first spawn in a game using the B-17, it is best if you find a formation of friendly bombers to maximize your chances of survival.<br />
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Unlike the preceding variant of the B-17, the B-17E/Late sports the Sperry Ball turret on the belly of the aircraft, thus ensuring complete protection of the belly of the aircraft. However, it is important to note that you still have the main drawback as the preceding B-17E - the lack of nose defenses. While you do have .30 Caliber guns on the nose, it is relatively inadequate at Battle Rating 5.7, and nearly worthless at Battle Rating 6.7. On the contrary, you are a later model B-17E, which grants you more armour than your predecessor. <br />
== General info ==<br />
=== Flight Performance ===<br />
<!--''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, maneuverability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''--><br />
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="8" | Characteristics<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="8" | ''Stock''<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 7,680 m)<br />
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)<br />
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)<br />
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)<br />
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)<br />
|-<br />
! AB<br />
! RB<br />
! AB<br />
! RB<br />
! AB<br />
! RB<br />
|-<br />
| 496 || 484 || 11,156 || 36.8 || 37.9 || 5.7 || 5.6 || 600<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 7,680 m)<br />
! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)<br />
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)<br />
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)<br />
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)<br />
|-<br />
! AB<br />
! RB<br />
! AB<br />
! RB<br />
! AB<br />
! RB<br />
|-<br />
| ? || ? || 11,156 || ??.? || ??.? || ?.? || ?.? || ?<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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====Details====<br />
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="5" | Features<br />
|-<br />
! Combat flap<br />
! Take-off flap<br />
! Landing flap<br />
! Air brakes<br />
! Arrestor gear<br />
|-<br />
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X <!-- ✓ --><br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="5" | Limits<br />
|-<br />
! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)<br />
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)<br />
! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)<br />
! colspan="2" | Max Static G<br />
|-<br />
! +<br />
! -<br />
|-<br />
| 516 || 300 || ??? || ~1 || ~1<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities<br />
|-<br />
! Ailerons<br>(km/h)<br />
! Rudder<br>(km/h)<br />
! Elevators<br>(km/h)<br />
! Radiator<br>(km/h)<br />
|-<br />
| < 360 || < 300 || < 323 || > 110<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="3" | Setting 1<br />
|-<br />
! Optimal altitude<br />
! 100% Engine power<br />
! WEP Engine power<br />
|-<br />
| 6,180 m || 4,000 hp || 4,708 hp <br />
|-<br />
<!--! colspan="3" | Setting 2<br />
|-<br />
! Optimal altitude<br />
! 100% Engine power<br />
! WEP Engine power<br />
|-<br />
| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp <br />
|-<br />
! colspan="3" | Setting 3<br />
|-<br />
! Optimal altitude<br />
! 100% Engine power<br />
! WEP Engine power<br />
|-<br />
| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp <br />
|- --><br />
|}<br />
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=== Survivability and armour ===<br />
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* 6.35 mm Steel plate behind nose gunner.<br />
* 6.35 mm Steel plates behind pilots.<br />
* 6.35 mm Steel plates behind dorsal gunners.<br />
* 6.35 mm Steel plates in front of beam gunners.<br />
* 6.35 mm Steel plates in front of tail gunner.<br />
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass in front of tail gunner.<br />
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass ball turret.<br />
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== Armaments ==<br />
<!--=== Offensive armament ===<br />
''Describe the offensive armament of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.''<br />
{{main|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}}<br />
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:<br />
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* 4 x 7.5 mm [[MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)|MAC 1934]] machine guns (300 rpg = 1,200 total)<br />
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The four machine guns are arranged in bundles of two mounted on the underside of the upper wing. Each are armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire with each other until empty.--><br />
=== Suspended armament ===<br />
<!--''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''--><br />
{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|AN-M66A2 (2,000 lb)}}<br />
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordinance:<br />
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* 8 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (4,000 lb total)<br />
* 12 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (6,000 lb total)<br />
* 6 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (6,000 lb total)<br />
* 2 x 2000 lb AN-M66A2 bombs (4,000 lb total)<br />
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=== Defensive armament ===<br />
<!--''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available remove this subsection.''--><br />
{{main|Browning (7.62 mm)|Browning M2 (12.7 mm)}}<br />
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:<br />
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* 2 x 7.62 mm Browning machine gun, nose turret, 500 rpg<br />
* 2 x 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine gun, tail turret, 575 rpg<br />
* 2 x 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine gun, front dorsal turret, 500 rpg<br />
* 1 x 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine gun, rear dorsal turret, 500 rpg<br />
* 2 x 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine gun, ventral turret, 500 rpg<br />
* 1 x 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine gun, 2 x beam turret, 400 rpg<br />
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== Usage in the battles ==<br />
<!--''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''--><br />
When using the B-17E/Late Flying Fortress, it is important to note that you are '''not''' invincible, but the B-17 is notorious for being able to take one serious punch and still get you home. However, at your Battle Rating of 5.3, you aren't going to have too much room for error. Nonetheless, as mentioned earlier, you have minimal nose defenses which leave the pilot and co-pilot dangerously exposed. <br />
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If you have the payload capability to destroy multiple bases, the first part to enhance your survival is one word: '''climb.''' You already start at the "Long Range Bombers" spawn, which is roughly at 4,500 meters (14,763 feet). A sustained climb can put you at nearly 5,500 meters (18,044 feet) in a matter of around a minute and a half. From there, maintain speed and a sustained climb to help put you out of reach of interceptors to buy you some time. <br />
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Do not try and bomb small targets such as pillboxes and moving armour. It is 1) Largely inaccurate due to the time it takes to reach the target from high altitude, and 2) not worth it as a whole, as moving armour columns can disperse after a bomb drop has been detected.<br />
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If you are under attack from enemy fighters/interceptors, '''Do not''' attempt to use evasive maneuvers - you are mainly unmaneuverable to begin with and trying to pull evasive manoeuvres will bleed the speed, throw off your gunner's aim and possibly increase your chances of losing a vital control component.<br />
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Another method of reaching your targets is to side-climb / plotting a course that is furthest away from the action. <br />
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At your Battle Rating of 5.3, it is very possible that you will be up-tiered to Battle Rating 6.3 matches, which almost any plane will tear you to shreds. <br />
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If the enemy is approaching directly towards you around 1.0km, fire your turrets in the general direction of the enemy in small bursts, to get a feel for the aiming and to serve as warning shots. <br />
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'''German Aircraft'''<br />
When facing the Germans, at all battlerating hhoweverespecially at Battle Rating 6.3, you will be vulnerable to the "Minengeschoß" rounds, which will punch through your armour, and explode inside the aircraft. The most dangerous opponents are going to be the Fw-190 D and any of the Focke Wulf Ta-152s, mainly due to their heavy-hitting weaponry. In addition, you also are confronted by the [[Bf 109 K-4|Bf 109 K-4]], which has a 30 mm cannon through the propeller hub, which can make short work of you with a number of well-placed hits.<br />
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'''Russian Aircraft'''<br />
When facing the Russians, you have to pay close attention to any plane bearing the prefix "Yak," for rather obvious reasons at 5.3 and 6.3 battles. You especially need to pay attention to the [[Yak-9P]] and the [[Yak-9UT]], which have a mix of 20 mm cannons and a combination of either a 37 mm cannon or a 45 mm cannon. The sheer size of the cannons they wield can obliterate the B-17 with just one or two well-placed hits. Another aircraft to pay attention to is the [[La-11]], which has three 23 mm cannons that can land serious damage if the hits are placed well.<br />
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'''British Aircraft'''<br />
While it is mainly uncommon to see one at high altitude, a [[Wyvern S4|Wyvern S4]] has the capability to intercept you thanks to its extremely powerful engine. In addition, a Wyvern will cut you to shreds as a result of the four 20 mm Mk.V Hispano cannons. In addition, the Hornet will also have the capability to intercept you. Perhaps the biggest threats lie with the Griffon Spitfires, especially the Mk. 22 and Mk. 24 variants. Also, keep your eyes peeled for the Tempest fighters.<br />
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'''Japanese Aircraft'''<br />
The Ki-87 is probably the single greatest threat to you at mid-rank battles due to the hard-hitting weaponry and its turboprop engine. In addition, (unlikely as it could be), the J7W will obliterate your plane due to the four 30 mm cannons in the nose. If not taken care of quickly, later models of the A7M "Reppu" can dispatch you if they have a good enough aim. <br />
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====Counter-tactics====<br />
<!--What to expect, if it would be in command of the enemy and how to counter it. (i.e. They will most likely BnZ, etc.)--><br />
Repeat after me and take the time to memorize the following text: '''"Do not tail a B-17,"''' even if you are flying something as heavily armed as a Messerschmitt 410 or a later Focke Wulf 190 model. This just warrants either an engine fire, your aircraft being critically damaged, or even your pilot being knocked out. If you have the altitude advantage over a B-17, try to hit it from an angle, which can increase your chances of survival. The weakest point on a B-17E from a defensive standpoint is from the nose of the aircraft. This is due to only a .30 calibre machine gun defending the pilot and the co-pilot. If you do not have the capability to engage the B-17E from the nose, and you find yourself tailing a B-17E, aim for the wings of the bomber. This may allow you to set some of the fuel tanks on fire or even better yet shear one off. <br />
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For German planes, your minengeschoß rounds give you a slight advantage, given your shells' ability to explode inside the bomber causing more extensive damage to the control surfaces. If a B-17E is present in a Battle Rating 6.7 match, they pose a lesser threat than something like the [[B-17G-60-VE|B-17G]], which has only .50 Cals but try not to tail a B-17E, as they still can punch through you if the .50 Cals have the "Armored Target" rounds. <br />
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===Manual Engine Control===<br />
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="7" | MEC elements<br />
|-<br />
! rowspan="2" |Mixer<br />
! rowspan="2" |Pitch<br />
! colspan="3" |Radiator<br />
! rowspan="2" |Supercharger<br />
! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger<br />
|-<br />
! Oil<br />
! Water<br />
! Type <br />
|-<br />
| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Not ontrollable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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===Modules===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! colspan="1" | Tier<br />
! colspan="2" | Flight performance<br />
! colspan="1" | Survivability<br />
! colspan="2" | Weaponry<br />
|-<br />
| I<br />
| Fuselage Repair<br />
| Raidator<br />
| Protective Vest<br />
| Turret 7 mm<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| II<br />
| <br />
| Compressor<br />
| Airframe<br />
| New 7 mm MGs (turret)<br />
| LBC-17<br />
|-<br />
| III<br />
| Wings Repair<br />
| Engine<br />
| <br />
| Turret 12 mm<br />
| SBC-17<br />
|-<br />
| IV<br />
| <br />
| Engine Injection<br />
| Cover<br />
| New 12 mm MGs (turret)<br />
| MBC-17<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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=== Pros and cons ===<br />
<!--''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Do not use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''--><br />
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'''Pros:'''<br />
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* Large bomb-load<br />
* Powerful air defence capabilities<br />
* Multiple engines can fly on one if necessary (But with a great loss in altitude and speed) <br />
* Rugged design allows for soaking up damage<br />
* Mostly unaffected by light machine gun fire, and to an extent, heavy machine guns<br />
* Good speed for a bomber of its peers<br />
* Multiple turrets covering almost all angles <br />
* Can quite often return to base with extensive damage<br />
* Pilot and co-pilot, if one of them is knocked out, you can still fly on<br />
* The original pivoting belly gun turret has been replaced with a Sperry Ball turret<br />
* Better .50 calibre rounds in the belts for its defensive guns compared to its predecessor, the B-17E<br />
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'''Cons:'''<br />
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* Very large target<br />
* Quite slow when compared to fighters, and will always be outrun in level flight.<br />
* Nose is extremely vulnerable, the only armoarmourthe front is the front bulkhead, covering only the pilot and copilot's torso <br />
* The front of the aircraft is only covered by 2 x 7.62 mm Browning machine guns, which have different coverage areas<br />
* Vulnerable to German "Minengeschoß" and > 20 mm gunfire<br />
* Engine fires are common<br />
* Very unmaneuverable and effectively a sitting duck as all fighters at equivalent BR will be able to catch up to it with ease<br />
* Wings are big and thus commonly torn off by gunfire, in addition to being loaded with all of the plane's fuel, making fires extremely common as soon as the shooting begins<br />
* Nose protection is extremely limited, try to avoid frontal attacks as much as possible<br />
* Previously Mentioned Sperry Ball turret leaves the gunner much more exposed, and as such is easier to knock out.<br />
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== History ==<br />
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ historical reference" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/Name-vehicles/historical reference) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to include links to sources at the end of the article.''<br />
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=== In-game description ===<br />
"The legendary B-17 American heavy bombers were rightly called Flying Fortresses. This four-engined heavy bomber was an all-metal hero, an extremely durable aircraft that could return to the airfield with just one engine, riddled with bullets. <br />
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But the early models of the B-17 had a significant blind spot in the rear, so fighter support was required. To solve this problem, the B-17E was produced, and a turret with two 12.7mm machine guns was installed in the tail section of the aircraft. To do this, the fuselage size had to be increased. In addition, to improve control of the plane, the tail was broadened and a larger vertical fin was installed. <br />
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Although it lost some speed when compared to the B-17D, the new model fared favorably with its new protection and thus became the first truly mass-produced B-17. From September 5, 1941 to May 1942, 512 aircraft were made on the production line, before the development of the B-17F. "<br />
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== Media ==<br />
''An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''<br />
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== Read also ==<br />
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''<br />
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* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''<br />
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''<br />
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== Sources ==<br />
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''<br />
* ''page on aircraft encyclopedia;''<br />
* ''other literature.''<br />
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{{USA bombers}}</div>U23329089https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=B-17E/L&diff=38728B-17E/L2019-12-10T03:36:51Z<p>U23329089: /* Usage in the battles */ Fixes to the battle rating since the battle rating changes for the bomber, and fixes in spelling errors.</p>
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<div>{{Specs-Card|code=b-17e_late}}<br />
{{About<br />
| about = American heavy bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}'''<br />
| usage = other uses<br />
| link = B-17 (Family)<br />
}}<br />
== Description ==<br />
<!--''In the description, the first part needs to be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle. If the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle it is talking about.''--><br />
[[File:GarageImage_B-17EL.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]<br />
{{break}}<br />
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American heavy bomber {{Battle-rating}}}. This bomber has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.29.<br />
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The B-17 Flying Fortress has the sole purpose of being a high-altitude bomber targeting land fortifications, airfields and bases. Despite its impressive bomb capacity, it is not recommended to target moving ground units, such as tanks or armoured cars, especially when they are travelling in tight columns due to the inaccuracy of your bombs at high altitudes and the ability for the AI on the ground to perform evasive manoeuvres when bombs are falling onto their position. When you first spawn in a game using the B-17, it is best if you find a formation of friendly bombers to maximize your chances of survival.<br />
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Unlike the preceding variant of the B-17, the B-17E/Late sports the Sperry Ball turret on the belly of the aircraft, thus ensuring complete protection of the belly of the aircraft. However, it is important to note that you still have the main drawback as the preceding B-17E - the lack of nose defenses. While you do have .30 Caliber guns on the nose, it is relatively inadequate at Battle Rating 5.7, and nearly worthless at Battle Rating 6.7. On the contrary, you are a later model B-17E, which grants you more armour than your predecessor. <br />
== General info ==<br />
=== Flight Performance ===<br />
<!--''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, maneuverability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''--><br />
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="8" | Characteristics<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="8" | ''Stock''<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 7,680 m)<br />
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)<br />
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)<br />
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)<br />
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)<br />
|-<br />
! AB<br />
! RB<br />
! AB<br />
! RB<br />
! AB<br />
! RB<br />
|-<br />
| 496 || 484 || 11,156 || 36.8 || 37.9 || 5.7 || 5.6 || 600<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 7,680 m)<br />
! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)<br />
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)<br />
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)<br />
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)<br />
|-<br />
! AB<br />
! RB<br />
! AB<br />
! RB<br />
! AB<br />
! RB<br />
|-<br />
| ? || ? || 11,156 || ??.? || ??.? || ?.? || ?.? || ?<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
====Details====<br />
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="5" | Features<br />
|-<br />
! Combat flap<br />
! Take-off flap<br />
! Landing flap<br />
! Air brakes<br />
! Arrestor gear<br />
|-<br />
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X <!-- ✓ --><br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="5" | Limits<br />
|-<br />
! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)<br />
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)<br />
! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)<br />
! colspan="2" | Max Static G<br />
|-<br />
! +<br />
! -<br />
|-<br />
| 516 || 300 || ??? || ~1 || ~1<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities<br />
|-<br />
! Ailerons<br>(km/h)<br />
! Rudder<br>(km/h)<br />
! Elevators<br>(km/h)<br />
! Radiator<br>(km/h)<br />
|-<br />
| < 360 || < 300 || < 323 || > 110<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="3" | Setting 1<br />
|-<br />
! Optimal altitude<br />
! 100% Engine power<br />
! WEP Engine power<br />
|-<br />
| 6,180 m || 4,000 hp || 4,708 hp <br />
|-<br />
<!--! colspan="3" | Setting 2<br />
|-<br />
! Optimal altitude<br />
! 100% Engine power<br />
! WEP Engine power<br />
|-<br />
| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp <br />
|-<br />
! colspan="3" | Setting 3<br />
|-<br />
! Optimal altitude<br />
! 100% Engine power<br />
! WEP Engine power<br />
|-<br />
| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp <br />
|- --><br />
|}<br />
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=== Survivability and armour ===<br />
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* 6.35 mm Steel plate behind nose gunner.<br />
* 6.35 mm Steel plates behind pilots.<br />
* 6.35 mm Steel plates behind dorsal gunners.<br />
* 6.35 mm Steel plates in front of beam gunners.<br />
* 6.35 mm Steel plates in front of tail gunner.<br />
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass in front of tail gunner.<br />
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass ball turret.<br />
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== Armaments ==<br />
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:<br />
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* 4 x 7.5 mm [[MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)|MAC 1934]] machine guns (300 rpg = 1,200 total)<br />
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The four machine guns are arranged in bundles of two mounted on the underside of the upper wing. Each are armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire with each other until empty.--><br />
=== Suspended armament ===<br />
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordinance:<br />
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* 8 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (4,000 lb total)<br />
* 12 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (6,000 lb total)<br />
* 6 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (6,000 lb total)<br />
* 2 x 2000 lb AN-M66A2 bombs (4,000 lb total)<br />
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=== Defensive armament ===<br />
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{{main|Browning (7.62 mm)|Browning M2 (12.7 mm)}}<br />
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:<br />
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* 2 x 7.62 mm Browning machine gun, nose turret, 500 rpg<br />
* 2 x 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine gun, tail turret, 575 rpg<br />
* 2 x 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine gun, front dorsal turret, 500 rpg<br />
* 1 x 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine gun, rear dorsal turret, 500 rpg<br />
* 2 x 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine gun, ventral turret, 500 rpg<br />
* 1 x 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine gun, 2 x beam turret, 400 rpg<br />
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== Usage in the battles ==<br />
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When using the B-17E/Late Flying Fortress, it is important to note that you are '''not''' invincible, but the B-17 is notorious for being able to take one serious punch and still get you home. However, at your Battle Rating of 5.3, you aren't going to have too much room for error. Nonetheless, as mentioned earlier, you have minimal nose defenses which leave the pilot and co-pilot dangerously exposed. <br />
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If you have the payload capability to destroy multiple bases, the first part to enhance your survival is one word: '''climb.''' You already start at the "Long Range Bombers" spawn, which is roughly at 4,500 meters (14,763 feet). A sustained climb can put you at nearly 5,500 meters (18,044 feet) in a matter of around a minute and a half. From there, maintain speed and a sustained climb to help put you out of reach of interceptors to buy you some time. <br />
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Do not try and bomb small targets such as pillboxes and moving armour. It is 1) Largely inaccurate due to the time it takes to reach the target from high altitude, and 2) not worth it as a whole, as moving armour columns can disperse after a bomb drop has been detected.<br />
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If you are under attack from enemy fighters/interceptors, '''Do not''' attempt to use evasive maneuvers - you are mainly unmaneuverable to begin with and trying to pull evasive manoeuvres will bleed the speed, throw off your gunner's aim and possibly increase your chances of losing a vital control component.<br />
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Another method of reaching your targets is to side-climb / plotting a course that is furthest away from the action. <br />
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At your Battle Rating of 5.3, it is very possible that you will be up-tiered to Battle Rating 6.3 matches, which almost any plane will tear you to shreds. <br />
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If the enemy is approaching directly towards you around 1.0km, fire your turrets in the general direction of the enemy in small bursts, to get a feel for the aiming and to serve as warning shots. <br />
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'''German Aircraft'''<br />
When facing the Germans, at all battlerating hhoweverespecially at Battle Rating 6.3, you will be vulnerable to the "Minengeschoß" rounds, which will punch through your armour, and explode inside the aircraft. The most dangerous opponents are going to be the Fw-190 D and any of the Focke Wulf Ta-152s, mainly due to their heavy-hitting weaponry. In addition, you also are confronted by the [[Bf 109 K-4|Bf 109 K-4]], which has a 30 mm cannon through the propeller hub, which can make short work of you with a number of well-placed hits.<br />
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'''Russian Aircraft'''<br />
When facing the Russians, you have to pay close attention to any plane bearing the prefix "Yak," for rather obvious reasons at 5.3 and 6.3 battles. You especially need to pay attention to the [[Yak-9P]] and the [[Yak-9UT]], which have a mix of 20 mm cannons and a combination of either a 37 mm cannon or a 45 mm cannon. The sheer size of the cannons they wield can obliterate the B-17 with just one or two well-placed hits. Another aircraft to pay attention to is the [[La-11]], which has three 23 mm cannons that can land serious damage if the hits are placed well.<br />
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'''British Aircraft'''<br />
While it is mainly uncommon to see one at high altitude, a [[Wyvern S4|Wyvern S4]] has the capability to intercept you thanks to its extremely powerful engine. In addition, a Wyvern will cut you to shreds as a result of the four 20 mm Mk.V Hispano cannons. In addition, the Hornet will also have the capability to intercept you. Perhaps the biggest threats lie with the Griffon Spitfires, especially the Mk. 22 and Mk. 24 variants. Also, keep your eyes peeled for the Tempest fighters.<br />
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'''Japanese Aircraft'''<br />
The Ki-87 is probably the single greatest threat to you at mid-rank battles due to the hard-hitting weaponry and its turboprop engine. In addition, (unlikely as it could be), the J7W will obliterate your plane due to the four 30 mm cannons in the nose. If not taken care of quickly, later models of the A7M "Reppu" can dispatch you if they have a good enough aim. <br />
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====Counter-tactics====<br />
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Repeat after me and take the time to memorize the following text: '''"Do not tail a B-17,"''' even if you are flying something as heavily armed as a Messerschmitt 410 or a later Focke Wulf 190 model. This just warrants either an engine fire, your aircraft being critically damaged, or even your pilot being knocked out. If you have the altitude advantage over a B-17, try to hit it from an angle, which can increase your chances of survival. The weakest point on a B-17E from a defensive standpoint is from the nose of the aircraft. This is due to only a .30 calibre machine gun defending the pilot and the co-pilot. If you do not have the capability to engage the B-17E from the nose, and you find yourself tailing a B-17E, aim for the wings of the bomber. This may allow you to set some of the fuel tanks on fire or even better yet shear one off. <br />
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For German planes, your minengeschoß rounds give you a slight advantage, given your shells' ability to explode inside the bomber causing more extensive damage to the control surfaces. If a B-17E is present in a Battle Rating 6.7 match, they pose a lesser threat than something like the [[B-17G-60-VE|B-17G]], which has only .50 Cals but try not to tail a B-17E, as they still can punch through you if the .50 Cals have the "Armored Target" rounds. <br />
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===Manual Engine Control===<br />
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="7" | MEC elements<br />
|-<br />
! rowspan="2" |Mixer<br />
! rowspan="2" |Pitch<br />
! colspan="3" |Radiator<br />
! rowspan="2" |Supercharger<br />
! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger<br />
|-<br />
! Oil<br />
! Water<br />
! Type <br />
|-<br />
| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Not ontrollable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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===Modules===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! colspan="1" | Tier<br />
! colspan="2" | Flight performance<br />
! colspan="1" | Survivability<br />
! colspan="2" | Weaponry<br />
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| I<br />
| Fuselage Repair<br />
| Raidator<br />
| Protective Vest<br />
| Turret 7 mm<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| II<br />
| <br />
| Compressor<br />
| Airframe<br />
| New 7 mm MGs (turret)<br />
| LBC-17<br />
|-<br />
| III<br />
| Wings Repair<br />
| Engine<br />
| <br />
| Turret 12 mm<br />
| SBC-17<br />
|-<br />
| IV<br />
| <br />
| Engine Injection<br />
| Cover<br />
| New 12 mm MGs (turret)<br />
| MBC-17<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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=== Pros and cons ===<br />
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'''Pros:'''<br />
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* Large bomb-load<br />
* Powerful air defence capabilities<br />
* Multiple engines can fly on one if necessary (But with a great loss in altitude and speed) <br />
* Rugged design allows for soaking up damage<br />
* Mostly unaffected by light machine gun fire, and to an extent, heavy machine guns<br />
* Good speed for a bomber of its peers<br />
* Multiple turrets covering almost all angles <br />
* Can quite often return to base with extensive damage<br />
* Pilot and co-pilot, if one of them is knocked out, you can still fly on<br />
* The original pivoting belly gun turret has been replaced with a Sperry Ball turret<br />
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'''Cons:'''<br />
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* Very large target<br />
* Quite slow when compared to fighters, and will always be outrun in level flight.<br />
* Nose is extremely vulnerable, the only armour on the front is the front bulkhead, covering only the pilot and copilot's torso <br />
* The front of the aircraft is only covered by 2 x 7.62 mm Browning machine guns, which have different coverage areas<br />
* Vulnerable to German "Minengeschoß" and > 20 mm gunfire<br />
* Engine fires are common<br />
* Very unmaneuverable and effectively a sitting duck as all fighters at equivalent BR will be able to catch up to it with ease<br />
* Wings are big and thus commonly torn off by gunfire, in addition to being loaded with all of the plane's fuel, making fires extremely common as soon as the shooting begins<br />
* Nose protection is extremely limited, try to avoid frontal attacks as much as possible<br />
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== History ==<br />
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=== In-game description ===<br />
"The legendary B-17 American heavy bombers were rightly called Flying Fortresses. This four-engined heavy bomber was an all-metal hero, an extremely durable aircraft that could return to the airfield with just one engine, riddled with bullets. <br />
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But the early models of the B-17 had a significant blind spot in the rear, so fighter support was required. To solve this problem, the B-17E was produced, and a turret with two 12.7mm machine guns was installed in the tail section of the aircraft. To do this, the fuselage size had to be increased. In addition, to improve control of the plane, the tail was broadened and a larger vertical fin was installed. <br />
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Although it lost some speed when compared to the B-17D, the new model fared favorably with its new protection and thus became the first truly mass-produced B-17. From September 5, 1941 to May 1942, 512 aircraft were made on the production line, before the development of the B-17F. "<br />
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== Media ==<br />
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== Read also ==<br />
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''<br />
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<div>== Description ==<br />
''A 23 mm gun which can be found on some Russian jets, (Mainly lower tier jets), that are identical to the NR-23 found on the higher tier Russian jets except fire rate.''<!-- When concerning fire rate the NS-23 is like an M2 .50 and the NR-23 is like the M3 .50 (.50 cals do not have the same fire rate as these to avoid confusion.) --><br />
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=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===<br />
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{{Navigation-First-Line|Fighters}}{{Specs-Link|la-9}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|la-11}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-9p}}<br />
(Modification){{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-9ut}}<br />
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{{Navigation-Line|Attacker}}{{Specs-Link|il-10_1946}}<br />
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== General info ==<br />
''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''<br />
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=== Available shells ===<br />
''Describe the shells that are available for the cannon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''<br />
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=== Comparison with analogues ===<br />
''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns, that have firepower equal to these type of weapons.''<br />
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== Usage in battles ==<br />
''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against the main opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''<br />
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=== Pros and cons ===<br />
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.''<br />
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'''Pros:'''<br />
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* '''Lower fire rate (compared to NR-23) can help conserve ammo'''<br />
* '''Decent damage per burst of shells (About 4 or more shells) (3 works about 50% of the time)'''<br />
* '''High fire rate for gun of caliber'''<br />
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'''Cons:'''<br />
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* '''Low velocity'''<br />
* '''One or two shells usually wont Crit or Kill an enemy (Two can effect performance for a follow-up)'''<br />
* '''Slightly different velocity than gun usually paired with (N-37D)'''<br />
* '''occasional "sparks"'''<br />
* '''Lower fire rate can lead to "scissoring" the shots between the enemy''' <br />
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== History ==<br />
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== Media ==<br />
''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''<br />
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== See also ==<br />
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''<br />
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* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''<br />
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''<br />
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[[Category:Aircraft cannons]]</div>U23329089https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=NR-23_(23_mm)&diff=21293NR-23 (23 mm)2019-04-07T19:37:42Z<p>U23329089: /* Pros and cons */ I noticed that my previous edit was a bit contradictory when mentioning the lethality so I polished it with a more accurate statement.</p>
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<div>== Description ==<br />
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=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===<br />
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{{Navigation-First-Line|Jet fighters}}{{Specs-Link|la-15}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|la_174}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mig-15}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mig-15bis_nr23_german}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mig-17}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-23}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-30d}}<br />
{{Navigation-Line|Bombers}}{{Specs-Link|be_6}}<br />
(Defensive){{-}}{{Specs-Link|tu_4}} (Defensive)<br />
{{Navigation-Line|Jet bombers}}{{Specs-Link|il_28}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|il_28sh}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|tu_14t}}<br />
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== General info ==<br />
''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''<br />
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=== Available shells ===<br />
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# FI-T<br />
# API<br />
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Velocity of API shell is 610 m/s. It is possible to achieve penetration American MBT's roofs (Abrams, MBT-70) although this task can prove to be difficult.<br />
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The FI-T Shell is a stealth round, however, will always be matched with at least one API-Tracer shell every 4 shots. (Air Targets Belt) The velocity is 690 m/s. If a hit to the inner wing or central fuselage is scored it will act like a "mini flak shell" and can cause fuel leaks, oil leaks, engine damage, and inner wing damage.<br />
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=== Comparison with analogues ===<br />
''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns, that have firepower equal to these type of weapons.''<br />
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== Usage in battles ==<br />
''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against the main opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''<br />
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=== Pros and cons ===<br />
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'''Pros:'''<br />
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* Higher fire rate than predecessor (NS-23 found on Mig-15 standard)<br />
* Decent damage per short burst of shells (about 4 or more shells) (3 can work about 50% of the time)<br />
* High fire rate for gun of caliber<br />
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'''Cons:'''<br />
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* Low velocity<br />
* One or two shell usually wont Crit or Kill an enemy (Two may impact performance for a follow-up)<br />
* possibly different velocity than gun usually paired with (N-37D)<br />
* occasional sparks<br />
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== History ==<br />
''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of this weapon. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''<br />
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== Media ==<br />
''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''<br />
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== See also ==<br />
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''<br />
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* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''<br />
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''<br />
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== External links ==<br />
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* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudelman-Rikhter_NR-23 Wikipedia - Nudelman-Rikhter NR-23]<br />
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{{Germany aircraft cannons}}<br />
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== Description ==<br />
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian self-propelled anti-aircraft gun {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].<br />
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== General info ==<br />
=== Survivability and armour ===<br />
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat?''<br />
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''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''<br />
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=== Mobility ===<br />
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and maneuverability as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''<br />
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== Armaments ==<br />
=== Main armament ===<br />
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''<br />
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== Usage in battles ==<br />
The R3 is designated as an SPAA, and perfoms in this role extremely effectively. The auto cannon has a rapid rate of fire and high velocity, allowing the R3 to tear aircraft to shreds. With accurate fire, a short burst will obliterate most aircraft in very little time. When the skys are clear and there are no more planes to shoot down, the R3 becomes a highly flexible vehicle, being able to zip around the map at high speed performing various tasks. Early game it makes an excellent recon vehicle, being able to capture points, oversee the battlefield and destroy enemy vehicles. <br />
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With over 50mm of penetration and its exceptional speed, the R3 makes short work of British and American medium tanks from the side and will shred light tanks and other SPAA. The R3 does not have the penetration to handle heavy tanks and so tanks like the KV-1 should be avoided. <br />
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=== Pros and cons ===<br />
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''<br />
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'''Pros:'''<br />
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* With the best belt, it is possible to penetrate many tanks, including the sides of the Sherman and many low-tier British and Soviet tanks<br />
* Twin-axis stabilizer at 3.7<br />
* Immensely fast, often the first vehicle on the cap<br />
* Seemingly invincible wheels<br />
* Front plate has armour thickness sufficient to deflect most machine gun rounds, and even certain light cannon rounds<br />
* Immense fire rate, a 20 mm firing at 996 rounds per minute can do quite a number on low tier aircraft, often snapping wings off IL-2s<br />
* Very little lead is required to score hits on planes<br />
* Large ammo pool, with no need to reload<br />
* Somehow capable of righting itself even when flipped on its roof<br />
* By aiming backwards and down and firing while driving, the recoil can be used as a turbo to propel the light vehicle forward.<br />
* Can bounce rounds with its sloped frontal armour. <br />
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'''Cons:'''<br />
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* Very little side and roof armour, can be very easily dispatched by anything larger than a 7.7 mm, in most cases can be destroyed by M2s mounted on both tanks and planes.<br />
* Engine is very fragile and susceptible to machine gun fire from behind, concentrated 7.7 mm fire can actually destroy the engine<br />
* Sub-par reverse gear compared with its forward gear<br />
* Tips over. ''Very'' often. Especially when firing<br />
* As with many wheeled vehicles, awful in the sand<br />
* Due to its size, can be very easily crushed<br />
* Hard collisions damage modules and can often injure or incapacitate the crew<br />
* The gun doesn't fully elevate<br />
* A widely hated vehicle by enemy players. You will be a primary target for both aircraft and ground vehicles. <br />
* 12.7mm machine gun fire is devastating <br />
* Recoil will cause the suspension to sway, meaning that a continous burst will have to be adjusted while firing. <br />
* Only 600 rounds loaded into a single belt with no spare, meaning all 600 rounds have to be expended before a resupply is possible. <br />
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== History ==<br />
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== Media ==<br />
''An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''<br />
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== See also ==<br />
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''<br />
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''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Make an air or ground vehicles list on which this weapon is installed in our game.''<br />
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=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===<br />
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* [[Yak-9K]]<br />
* [[Yak-9UT|Yak-9UT (Unlockable Modification)]]<br />
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== General info ==<br />
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=== Available shells ===<br />
''HEFI-T Shell is the only shell available for this gun. It has a velocity of 780 m/s and has 118g A-IX-2 of HE filler which is equivalent to 200.6g of TNT.''<br />
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=== Comparison with analogues ===<br />
''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns, that have firepower equal to these type of weapons.''<br />
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== Usage in battles ==<br />
''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against the main opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''<br />
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=== Pros and cons ===<br />
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'''Pros: Decent velocity (takes some time to get used to), Almost always one shots or crits, Accurate after the "New Cannon" upgrade is unlocked''' <!-- I have noticed that even with the "New Cannon" upgrade unlocked on both planes the gun on the Yak-9K seems to be less accurate than the one on the Yak-9UT despite them being the same gun. --><br />
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'''Cons: Hard to lead (Can get used to gun fairly fast), No spray capability, No AP shells for mixed battles like found on the similar NS-37 on the Yak-9T'''<br />
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== History ==<br />
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== Media ==<br />
''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''<br />
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== See also ==<br />
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''<br />
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* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''<br />
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''<br />
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== External links ==<br />
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[[Category:Aircraft cannons]]</div>U23329089https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=NR-30_(30_mm)&diff=18418NR-30 (30 mm)2019-03-18T02:46:07Z<p>U23329089: Added vehicle to the "Vehicles equipped with this weapon" section due to the introduction of the German Mig-19S as of update 1.87 (Locked On)</p>
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''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Make an air or ground vehicles list on which this weapon is installed in our game.''<br />
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=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===<br />
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* [[MiG-19PT]]<br />
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== General info ==<br />
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=== Available shells ===<br />
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=== Comparison with analogues ===<br />
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== Usage in battles ==<br />
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=== Pros and cons ===<br />
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== History ==<br />
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== Media ==<br />
''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''<br />
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== See also ==<br />
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* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''<br />
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== External links ==<br />
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[[Category:Aircraft cannons]]</div>U23329089https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=NR-23_(23_mm)&diff=18416NR-23 (23 mm)2019-03-18T02:42:15Z<p>U23329089: I changed the "Available Shells" section and "Pros and Cons" section with the addition of a citation</p>
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''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Make an air or ground vehicles list on which this weapon is installed in our game.''<br />
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=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===<br />
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{{Navigation-First-Line|Jet fighters}}[[La-15]]{{-}}[[La-174]]{{-}}[[MiG-15bis (Germany)|▀MiG-15bis]]{{-}}[[MiG-17]]{{-}}[[Yak-23]]{{-}}[[Yak-30]]<br />
{{Navigation-Line|Bombers}}[[Be-6]] (defensive){{-}}[[Tu-4]] (defensive)<br />
{{Navigation-Line|Jet bombers}}[[IL-28]]{{-}}[[IL-28Sh]]{{-}}[[Tu-14T]]<br />
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== General info ==<br />
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=== Available shells ===<br />
FI-T, API. Velocity of API shell is 610 m/s. Is possible to achieve penetration on roof of American MBT's (Abrams, MBT-70) although can prove to be difficult.<br />
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FI-T Shell is a stealth round however will always be matched with at least one API-Tracer shell every 4 shots. (Air Targets Belt) The velocity is unknown for certain in War Thunder although official records <!-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudelman-Rikhter_NR-23 <br />
Located in the box to the right of the screen. -->Suggest it to be 690 m/s. If a hit to the inner wing or central fuselage is scored it will act like a "mini flak shell" and can cause fuel leaks, oil leaks, slight engine damage (Jets), and inner wing damage.<br />
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=== Comparison with analogues ===<br />
''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns, that have firepower equal to these type of weapons.''<br />
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== Usage in battles ==<br />
''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against the main opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''<br />
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=== Pros and cons ===<br />
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'''Pros: Higher fire rate than predecessor (NS-23 found on Mig-15 standard), Decent damage per shell, High fire rate for gun of caliber.''' <br />
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'''Cons: Low velocity, One shell usually wont Crit or Kill an enemy, *possibly* different velocity than gun usually paired with (N-37D), occasional sparks.'''<br />
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== History ==<br />
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== Media ==<br />
''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''<br />
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== See also ==<br />
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''<br />
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* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''<br />
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''<br />
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== External links ==<br />
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* ''other literature.''<br />
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[[Category:Aircraft cannons]]</div>U23329089https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=N-37D_(37_mm)&diff=18415N-37D (37 mm)2019-03-18T02:26:59Z<p>U23329089: I changed the "Available shells" and "Pros and cons" sections to now have information regarding the gun.</p>
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<div>== Description ==<br />
''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Make an air or ground vehicles list on which this weapon is installed in our game.''<br />
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=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===<br />
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* [[La-200]]<br />
* [[MiG-9]]<br />
* [[MiG-9 /L]]<br />
* [[MiG-15]]<br />
* [[MiG-15bis]]<br />
* [[MiG-15bis (Germany)|▀MiG-15bis]]<br />
* [[MiG-15bis ISH]]<br />
* [[MiG-17]]<br />
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== General info ==<br />
''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''<br />
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=== Available shells ===<br />
HEFI-T*, HEF-T*, API-T. The velocity of the API-T shell is 670 m/s and has the ability to penetrate the top of American MBT's (Abrams/MBT-70) if at a downright angle. Velocity of the HEF-T* and HEFI-T* shells are extremely similar if not the same however their exact characteristics (m/s, HE filler, Effective TNT filler) is unknown to an exact number.<br />
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<nowiki>*</nowiki>= Self destroying<br />
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=== Comparison with analogues ===<br />
''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns, that have firepower equal to these type of weapons.''<br />
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== Usage in battles ==<br />
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=== Pros and cons ===<br />
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.''<br />
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'''Pros: High Lethality On Hit, Decent fire rate for gun of caliber, Short Term Spray Capability.'''<br />
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'''Cons: Low Velocity, Occasionally Sparks, Uses Ammo Quickly.'''<br />
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== History ==<br />
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== Media ==<br />
''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''<br />
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== See also ==<br />
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''<br />
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* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''<br />
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''<br />
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== External links ==<br />
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