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{{About
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|about = German medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
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|link-1 = Panther (Disambiguation)
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_PantherD.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} British motor gun boat {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41. It was introduced in [[Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea"]] as part of the British fleet closed beta test.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' ('''{{Specs|pseudonym}}''') is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41. Beginning a new generation of German tanks, the Panther medium tank was one of the most iconic tanks of World War II with its high power [[KwK 42 (75 mm)|75 mm gun]] and heavy front sloping armour.
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The Panther is not like the [[Pz.IV H|Panzer IV]] you have become accustomed to in the line-up. The Panther D was historically made to fight in a long distance with its long 75 mm KwK 42 gun. Close distance is not the greatest ally for the Panther, with its weak side armour and gun mantlet, it can be easily penetrated by most other tanks at its rank if it can get these points. Thus, Panther should be played with a self-established "safe boundary" around the tank to stay safe from flankers. Despite that, as a front brawler, it excels due to the strong front armour and speed.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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'''Armour type:'''
  
MGB-61 has the following armour layout:
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*Rolled homogeneous armour
 
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*Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Cupola)  
* [[2pdr Rolls Royce (40 mm)|2pdr Rolls Royce]] gunshield: 12.7 mm hardened armour
 
* Hull: 40 mm, wood
 
* Superstructure: 15 mm, wood
 
 
 
[[File:MGB-61_internals.png|thumb|MGB-61 internals (starboard side). Note the ammo storages below the bridge and in front of the rear gun.]]
 
 
 
Any gun in the game will easily be able to penetrate anywhere on the boat, including the gunshield, at practically any range.
 
 
 
MGB-61 can be hull-broken by any gun with a diameter greater than 4 inches (102 mm). Hull-break triggers when a capable gun destroys any hull compartment or the bridge, resulting in instant destruction of the rest of the boat. At MGB-61's battle rating, the only gun capable of hull-breaking her is the [[8cwt QF Mk I (114 mm)|8cwt QF Mk I]], found on {{Specs-Link|uk_dark_class}}. The ability to be hull-broken by guns larger than 4 inches is a trait that applies to the vast majority of boats in tier 1 and 2, so in that respect, MGB-61 isn't better or worse than most other boats.
 
 
 
MGB-61's hull is split into three compartments. The first compartment starts at the bow and ends just in front of the bridge. The second starts at the bridge and ends in front of the engines. The third starts at the engines and ends at the stern. Overall, with a crew complement of 12, survivability is average.
 
 
 
MGB-61 has 4 ammunition storages, one below each of the two [[Vickers Mk.V (12.7 mm)]] mounts and two in front of the rear [[2pdr Rolls Royce (40 mm)]] mount. Destroying these will also destroy the rest of the boat. In practice, though, this almost never happens, since they are relatively small targets and because most guns at this battle rating are either machine guns or low-calibre autocannons which require many hits to destroy ammo storages. It's often both quicker and easier to target the hull compartments and knock out the crew.
 
 
 
=== Mobility ===
 
<!--''Write about the ship’s mobility. Evaluate its power and maneuverability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward speed and reverse speed.''-->
 
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="6" | '''Mobility Characteristics'''
 
 
|-
 
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! rowspan="2" | Game Mode
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides (Slope angle) !! Rear (Slope angle) !! Roof
! rowspan="2" | Upgrade Status
 
! colspan="2" | Maximum Speed (km/h)
 
! rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Turn Time (s)|Time needed to complete a 360° turn at maximum speed}}
 
! rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Turn Radius (m)|At maximum speed}}
 
 
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! rowspan="1" | Forward
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| Hull || 80 mm (55°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 60 mm (56°) ''Lower glacis'' || 40 mm (40°) ''Top'' <br> 40 + 5 mm ''Lower'' || 40 mm (29-31°) || 16 mm
! rowspan="1" | Reverse
 
 
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| rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|AB|Arcade Battles}}
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| Turret || 100 mm (11-12°) ''Turret front'' <br> 60-100 (7-80°) + 10 mm ''Gun mantlet''|| 45 mm (0-25°) || 45 mm (20-30°) || 16 mm
| {{Annotation|Stock|All modifications removed}} || 73 || 20 || ~23.20 || ~42.05
 
 
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| {{Annotation|Upgraded|All modifications installed}} || 100 || 27 || ~15.41 || ~26.57
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! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
 
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| rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|RB|Realistic Battles}}/{{Annotation|SB|Simulator Battles}}
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| Cupola || 80 mm || 16 mm
| {{Annotation|Stock|All modifications removed}} || 64 || 17 || ~25.64 || ~47.61
 
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| {{Annotation|Upgraded|All modifications installed}} || 74 || 20 || ~21.18 || ~38.39
 
 
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|}
 
|}
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'''Notes:'''
  
When moving forwards at high speeds, the bow will lift out of the water. This creates a blind spot directly in front of the boat where the twin 12.7 mm Vickers Mk.V mounts can't depress far enough to engage surface targets.
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*Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick. The interleaved suspension wheels means that there are places where it will be a cumulative 20 + 20 mm extra armour.
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*Belly armour is 16 mm thick.
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*A 30 mm RHA plate separates the engine compartment from the crew compartment.
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*Tracks and lower side of the hull are covered by 5 mm thick armour plate, protecting them from HEAT and HE shells.
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*Rear parts of the upper side hull armour have tracks attached to it, adding additional 20 mm of armour.
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*The gun mantlet ring around the gun barrel is 300 mm thick.
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*[[Add-on Armor|Add-on armour]] adds tracks around the turret side and rear.
  
MGB-61 has a displacement of 34 tons.
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=== Mobility ===
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== Armament ==
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 1007|rbMinHp= 575|AoAweight= 0.45}}
=== Primary armament ===
 
{{main|Vickers Mk.V (12.7 mm)}}
 
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Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.''-->
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== Armaments ==
 
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=== Main armament ===
In her primary armament group, MGB-61 has four 12.7 mm Vickers Mk.V guns in two twin mounts, mounted on either side of the bridge. Each mount as 4,000 rounds of ammunition available, 2,000 rounds per gun, for a total of 8,000 rounds. Each mount can traverse horizontally at a rate of 75°/s and vertically at a rate of 75°/s. Each gun has a belt capacity of 200 rounds with a stated rate of fire of 600 rounds/min, though in actuality, for both mounts, the gun on the gunner's left side fires faster, at around 685 rounds/min, firing all 200 of its rounds in the time it takes the right side gun to fire about 175 rounds. With a stock crew, the guns can be reloaded in 13 seconds; with an aced crew, they can be reloaded in 10 seconds. Their maximum range against surface targets is roughly 2 km.
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{{main|KwK 42 (75 mm)}}
  
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="2" | '''Guidance for the Secondary Gun Turret'''
 
 
|-
 
|-
! Horizontal !! Vertical
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! colspan="6" | [[KwK 42 (75 mm)|75 mm KwK 42]]
 
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| ±180° || -10°/+70°
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! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
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! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
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! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
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! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
 
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|-
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| colspan="3" | 79 || -/+20° || ±180° || N/A
 
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There are three choices of ammunition available:
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! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
 
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* Universal: {{Annotation|T|Tracer}}/{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}/{{Annotation|I|Incendiary}}
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! style="width:4em" |Mode
 
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! style="width:4em" |Stock
* 12.7 mm I: {{Annotation|T|Tracer}}/{{Annotation|I|Incendiary}}/{{Annotation|I|Incendiary}}/{{Annotation|I|Incendiary}}/{{Annotation|I|Incendiary}}
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! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
 
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
* 12.7 mm API: {{Annotation|T|Tracer}}/{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}/{{Annotation|I|Incendiary}}/{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
 
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="7" | '''Penetration Statistics'''
 
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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| ''Arcade'' || 5.71 || 7.91 ||9.60||10.62|| 11.29
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
 
 
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
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| ''Realistic'' || 3.57 || 4.20 ||5.10||5.64|| 6.00
 
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| Universal || 27 || 26 || 23 || 20 || 18 || 16
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! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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| 12.7 mm I || 22 || 21 || 18 || 16 || 14 || 12
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
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| 12.7 mm API || 27 || 26 || 23 || 20 || 18 || 16
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| 9.62 ||8.51||7.84|| 7.40
 
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=== Secondary armament ===
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===== Ammunition =====
{{main|2pdr Rolls Royce (40 mm)}}
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
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In her secondary armament group, MGB-61 has one 40 mm 2pdr Rolls Royce semi-automatic cannon in a single mount, mounted centerline on the stern. It has 1,200 rounds of ammunition available. The mount can traverse horizontally at a rate of 45°/s and vertically at a rate of 55°/s. The gun has a magazine capacity of 4 rounds and has a rate of fire of 231 rounds/min. With a stock crew, it can be reloaded in 1.7 seconds; with an aced crew, it can be reloaded in 0.85 seconds. Its maximum range against surface targets is roughly 3 km.
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
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! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
! colspan="2" | '''Guidance for the Secondary Gun Turret'''
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! 10m
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! 100m
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! 500m
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! 1000m
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! 1500m
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! 2000m
 
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! Horizontal !! Vertical
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| PzGr 39/42 || APCBC || 191 || 188 || 173 || 156 || 140 || 126
 
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| ±151° || -12°/+60°
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| Sprgr. 42 || HE || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
 
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There are three choices of ammunition available:
 
 
* Universal: {{Annotation|HEF|High-explosive fragmentation}}/{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}/{{Annotation|HEF|High-explosive fragmentation}}/{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}
 
 
* 40 mm HE: {{Annotation|HEF|High-explosive fragmentation}}/{{Annotation|HEF|High-explosive fragmentation}}/{{Annotation|HEF|High-explosive fragmentation}}/{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}
 
 
* 40 mm AP: {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}/{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}/{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}/{{Annotation|HEF|High-explosive fragmentation}}
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="7" | '''Penetration Statistics'''
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! colspan="10" | Shell details
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
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! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
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! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
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''in m:''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
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''in mm:''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
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! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
 
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
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! 0%
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! 50%
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! 100%
 
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| Universal || 60 || 57 || 50 || 43 || 38 || 34
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| PzGr 39/42 || 935 || 6.8 || 1.2 || 25 || 28.9 || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
 
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| 40 mm HE || 60 || 57 || 50 || 43 || 38 || 34
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| Sprgr. 42 || 700 || 5.74 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 725 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
 
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| 40 mm AP || 60 || 57 || 50 || 43 || 38 || 34
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===== Ammo racks =====
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[[File:Ammoracks Panther D.png|thumb|317x317px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the Panther D.]]
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br />ammo
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |7th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |8th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |9th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |10th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br />discrepancy
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|| '''79''' || 77&nbsp;''(+2)'' || 71&nbsp;''(+8)'' || 62&nbsp;''(+17)'' || 53&nbsp;''(+24)'' || 44&nbsp;''(+33)'' || 35&nbsp;''(+42)'' || 31&nbsp;''(+46)'' || 16&nbsp;''(+61)'' ||4&nbsp;''(+73)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+78)'' || style="text-align:center" | Yes
 
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=== Special armament ===
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Turret and large sides empty: 31 (+48)
{{main|Mk.VII depth charge}}
 
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[[File:MGB-61_DC_order.png|thumb|Mk.VII depth charges numbered 1-2 according to the order in which they're dropped (click to expand).]]
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=== Machine guns ===
 
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MGB-61 can carry two Mk.VII depth charges mounted amidships, one on each side facing outwards. The depth charges are dropped one at a time and drop in this order (see the image):
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{{main|MG 34 (7.92 mm)}}
 
 
# Starboard side
 
# Portside
 
 
 
Before spawning, the detonation time delay can be set anywhere between 3 seconds and 10 seconds.
 
  
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="4" | '''Depth Charge Characteristics'''
 
 
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! Mass (kg)
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! colspan="7" | [[MG 34 (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm MG 34]]
! Explosive Type
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! Explosive Mass (kg)
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! colspan="7" | ''Coaxial mount''
! TNT Equivalent (kg)
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! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
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! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
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! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
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! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
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|-
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| colspan="4" | 2,700 (150) || 900 || N/A || N/A
 
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| 196 || TNT || 130 || 130
 
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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The Panther has a much stronger front glacis armour than its heavy tank companion [[Tiger H1|Tiger I]], with ~140 mm effective thickness with sloping compared to the Tiger's 100 mm armour. However, only the frontal glacis is nigh impenetrable, the side armour and turret is very vulnerable and care must be taken to keep this safe.
  
MGB-61's primary armament consists of four 12.7 mm Vickers Mk.V machineguns in two twin mounts. With all four on target, they have a very good damage output, roughly comparable to the damage output of a twin 20 mm cannon mount. However, when moving at high speeds, the bow of the boat will lift out of the water by quite a bit. This creates a blind spot in front of the boat for several hundred meters where one or both of the Vickers Mk.V mounts won't be able to depress their guns far enough to get shots on target. When on the move, either keep the enemy at an angle in front of the boat or keep them directly behind the boat where there's no.
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One method is to exploit the Panther's long gun range with distance. Fight from a long distance from 800 m to 2,000 m away. At this range, the enemy's gun shells will lose most of their penetrative qualities compared to the Panther's gun and will (hopefully) not be able to penetrate the Panther's weak point on the turret, plus you have the benefit on their lower aim accuracy due to distance. Of course, this scenario is very unlikely given the more close-oriented maps and games in War Thunder, so let's get to the alternative tactic...
  
The 12.7 mm Vickers Mk.V gun has a rather large belt capacity of 200 round, and, with a rate of fire of either 600 or 685 rounds per minute, it can fire for 20 or 17.5 seconds. Compared to her cannon-armed counterparts, MGB-61 can sustain fire for much longer, though this comes at the cost of a very long reload, between 13 and 10 seconds depending on the crew level. Running out of ammunition mid-engagement is almost always a death sentence due to the long reload. Because of this, always fire off any remaining ammunition after engagements if there are less than 300 or so rounds of ammunition between the four guns.
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In a more close-range tactic, stay with your allies. Allies will help you by covering your weak points on your sides. If you advance too far from your allies, the likelihood of your tank ending in a fiery ammunition explosion increases exponentially. Even in a close-range battle, try to maintain distance between you and the enemy tank to prevent them from easily flanking you and keep a range advantage to keep your weak points as small as possible. The slow turret traverse will also be a lower drawback at a longer range as you will not need to turn your turret as much to aim at different targets. Stay near the rear of the line while more mobile and aggressive allies charge forward and attract the enemy's attention so you can get the jump on them.
 
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===Modules===
MGB-61's secondary gun, a 40 mm Rolls Royce cannon, hits harder than the 12.7 mm machine guns. It's particularly useful against larger boats with its powerful HE rounds and is practically a necessity against certain armoured targets, since the machine guns can only penetrate a maximum of 22 mm of armour; with an AP rounds capable of penetrating 60 mm of armour, it is more than enough to deal with any armoured targets MGB-61 might face. The 40 mm cannon is also useful for shooting at enemies outside of the machine guns' maximum range, roughly 2 km. All that said, the 40 mm cannon actually has a lower damage output against most targets than the four machine guns because of its lower rate of fire and because it has a ~1 second reload every four rounds. The gun also can't rotate a full 360°, making it less versatile than the machine guns. Outside of the cases mentioned above, the machine guns will generally do much better. Still, the 40 mm can be switched to in a pinch if really needed, for example, if the machine guns are reloading.
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{| class="wikitable"
 
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!Tier
The 12.7 mm Vickers Mk.V mounts can fire in all directions except in a ~117° arc towards the opposite mount. There's also a blind spot for ~275 m directly behind the boat where both guns can't fire. When on the move, the rear blind spot is virtually eliminated, though a new blind spot in front of the boat is created. Overall, firing arcs are poor. The rear 40 mm Rolls Royce mount, on the other hand, has very good firing arcs, able to fire in all directions except for a ~62° arc centred towards the front of the boat.
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! colspan="2" |Mobility
 
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!Protection
;Ammunition Choices
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! colspan="2" |Firepower
 
 
For the 12.7 mm Vickers Mk.V, the 12.7 mm I belt is slightly better against both aircraft and surface targets compared to the 12.7 mm API belt. Though the AP rounds penetrate 5 mm more armour at point-blank than the I rounds, with such a small difference, the AP rounds won't be able to penetrate any armour that the I rounds can't. That said, the damage output difference between the I and API belt is so little that it's largely down to preference which to use.
 
 
 
For the 40 mm 2pdr Rolls Royce cannon, the best ammunition choice is the 40 mm HE because it has the highest ratio of HE rounds to AP rounds, meaning that it will be the most effective against both aircraft and surface targets. The 40 mm HE belt should be the main ammunition choice, but a few of the 40 mm AP belt should also be taken into battle for use against armoured targets. The AP belt is also useful against enemies heading directly bow-in. In this situation, HE rounds will only damage the bow compartment and, if that compartment is already destroyed, will deal only minimal damage. AP rounds can pass through the bow compartment and deal damage to the rest of the vessel.
 
 
 
;Depth Charges
 
 
 
Being anti-submarine weapons and with the present lack of submarines in the game, there is practically no reason to use them. While they can be used against surface targets, this is extremely situational. Sailing up right next to a slower target and dropping a depth charge can lead to some success, though again, this is very situational. If attempting this, remember the order in which the depth charges drop and that there is no reason to use any depth charge activation time setting above the minimum 3 seconds, since higher delay times means the depth charge will sink further, and thus away, from the target. Again, it should be reiterated that this is very situational.
 
 
 
There is no practical reason to take them into battle, especially since, if they're not dropped, they essentially become unarmoured ammo racks.  
 
 
 
=== Modules ===
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
! Tier
 
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|Suspension
| Fire Protection System || Smokescreen
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|Brake System
| 40 mm AP || 12.7 mm API || Auxiliary Armament Targeting
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|Adjustment of Fire
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|Filters
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| Improved Rangefinder || Depth Charges || {{Annotation|Primary Armament Targeting|Requires 'Auxiliary Armament Targeting'}}
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|Crew Replenishment
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|Elevation Mechanism
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|Smoke grenade
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| New Pumps ||
 
| Artillery Support || ||
 
 
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|Transmission
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|Engine
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|Add-on Armor
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|Artillery Support
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
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* Excellent cannon has a range of ammo for any type of enemy: great stock AP for common targets (eg. [[T-34-85]], [[M4 Sherman (Family)|M4 Sherman]] or even the [[M4A3E2]]), piercing APCR for early cold war tanks (eg. [[M26 (Family)|M26]], [[T-44]], early [[Centurion (Family)|Centurion]]<nowiki/>s) and HE for light vehicles. Great accuracy and velocity allows easy long-range sniping. Plenty of ammo capacity allows flexible ammo setups.
 
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* Heavily armored frontal hull is immune to most guns at 5.7 like the 85mm D5T and 76mm M1.
* 12.7 mm Vickers Mk.V: high rate of fire, large belt capacity, good damage output, can rotate 360°
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* Fast top speed, good hull traverse. Can get to positions in time.
* 40 mm 2pdr Rolls Royce: very quick reload, high penetration with AP rounds, good firing arcs
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* Adequate gun depression of -8° adapts most terrains well.
* Decent mobility
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* Reasonably cheap repair cost
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* Has a wide range of good-looking camouflage to unlock. Suitable for almost every terrain / map.
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Blind spot directly in front when moving at high speeds
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* Gun mantlet is only 100mm, a huge and '''well-known''' weakspot to shoot at.
* 12.7 mm Vickers Mk.V: long reload, poor firing arcs
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* Very poor turret traverse making it hard to respond to flankers or to get the gun on target. For close-quarter combat, great situational awareness and fast reaction is required which isn't beginner friendly.
* 40 mm 2pdr Rolls Royce: cannot fire directly forwards, small magazine capacity, cannot rotate 360°
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* Side ammo racks are prone to detonation when hit.
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* Terrible reverse speed of only -4 km/h, can get the player killed.
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* Weak side armor gets penetrated easily by Russian APHEBC (eg. BR-365A, BR-471). Cannot angle too much.
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* Lower glacis often catches fire or brakes transmission when penetrated, leaving the tank immobile and vulnerable.
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* High profile for a medium tank makes it harder to hide.
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* Roof armour of 16 mm is vulnerable to [[M2 Browning (12.7 mm)|M2 Browning]]<nowiki/>s which are widely seen on American planes.
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* Although heavily armored, it can still get frontally penetrated and one-shot easily by a rather common tank: [[IS-2 (Family)|IS-2]].
  
 
== History ==
 
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===Development===
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The '''Panther''' development started as far back as 1938 as a replacement to the [[Pz.III F|Panzer IIIs]] and [[Pz.IV E|Panzer IVs]]. The program was called ''VK 20'' and it called for a 20 ton tracked vehicle design by Krupp, Daimler-Benz, and MAN. Krupp dropped out when the requirements changed to 30 tones in 1941 when the German encounters the Soviet [[T-34 (1941)|T-34]] and [[KV-1 (L-11)|KV-1]] tanks where the Panzer III and Panzer IV's performance have little effect due to its superior armour, mobility, and armament. The ''VK 20'' was abandoned for the ''VK 30.02'' in April 1942. Daimler-Benz design for this project looks similar to the T-34 with the turret far forward in the hull, plus the use of a diesel engine and external leaf spring suspension. MAN's design had a twin torsion bar, the interleaved suspension system (like the [[Tiger H1|Tiger I]]) with the turret situated in the middle of the hull, plus had a petrol Maybach engine. Hitler was reported to believe that the DB design was superior to the MAN design, and in a review between January to March 1942, Fritz Todt and Albert Speer also recommended the DB design. Then MAN revised their design, and a special commission by Hitler decided on the MAN design in May 1942, to which Hitler approved after reviewing it. One of the reasons the MAN was approved was that its turret was already in production while the DB used a completely new design. However, despite being built for a 30-ton design, Hitler decided to increase the armour on the MAN design and the weight went from 30 tons to 45 tons.
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The MAN design was made into a prototype in September 1942, when it was officially accepted after testing and named the '''Panzerkampfwagen V Panther'''. Where it remained so until 1944, where Hitler removed the '''V''' in the designation for the name '''Panther'''. Production started in December 1942, though the early models suffered from reliability issues. The production plants expanded from MAN to Daimler-Benz, MNH, and Henschel for increased output. Despite that, production was often delayed due to Allied air bombing, which targeted the Maybach engine plant and DB, MAN, and MNH tank factories. Nevertheless, the total number of Panther tanks produced was 6,706, making the Panther the third most produced armoured fighting vehicle in Germany behind the Panzer IV and the StuG III.
  
Over the course of the Second World War, British Power Boat Company (BPB), based at Hythe, manufactured three motor anti-submarine boat (MASB) designs which were essentially three differently sized versions of the same overall design, as follows: a 60-foot version, consisting of MASBs 1-5; a 63-foot version, consisting of MASBs 22-45; and a 70-foot version, consisting of MASBs 6-21, 46, and 50-67). These boats were originally designed as motor torpedo boats (MTBs), but with the increasing threat of German U-Boats, those ordered by the Royal Navy were ordered as MASBs, their torpedo tubes replaced with depth charge racks and ASDIC equipment.
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===Design===
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The MAN design for the Panther featured a heavily sloped armour design, with the front glacis plate being 80 mm thick (from the original 60 mm before the weight increase) and when sloped at 55 degrees, it was 140 mm effective in thickness. This made the Panther one of the best-armoured vehicle in World War II. The side armour of the Panther was way thinner at 40 mm that could be pierced very easily. Additional side armour in the form of Schürzen could be placed on the sides hanging to cover the suspension and hull side from being penetrated by Soviet anti-tank rifle fire. The Panther used the same engine as the Tiger I, the Mayback HL 210 P30 engine, and had a similar suspension system, the ''Schachtellaufwerk'' interleaved wheel system, which complicated maintenance issues. The tank used the formidable 7.5 cm Kwk 42 cannon, which could destroy most of the allied tanks in service, though only possess a mediocre HE shell.  
  
The 70-foot boats, in particular, had a standard displacement of around 30 tons, with a full displacement of up to 38 tons, depending on the boat. They had a length of 70 feet (21.3 m), a beam of 16 feet 7 inches (5.05 m), and a draught of around 3 feet (~1 m) depending on the boat. The boats were powered as follows:
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The '''Ausf. D''' variant was the first variant designed for the Panther, easily distinguishable by its drum-shaped commander cupola. The Ausf. D can also be distinguished by a unique machine gun port with a shape of a vertical "letterbox" flap from where the machine gun was fired (this was replaced by a standard ball mount in later variants). The Ausf. D also had the initial turret curved gun mantlet that was introduced to the Panther, though there were faults with the design as explained below. 842 Panther Ausf. D was produced from January to September 1943.
  
* MASBs 6-21: ordered by the Royal Navy as MASBs, all completed throughout 1940 and 1941. These were originally planned to be powered by Rolls Royce petrol engines. However, these engines became reserved only for Hurricane and Spitfire fighter aircraft by the time the boats were built. Instead, they were powered by two weaker Napier Sea Lion petrol engines driving two shafts and could only achieve 23 knots. In 1942, they received stronger Packard petrol engines and could achieve 38 knots.
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The Panther's rushed development and commitment into battle caused the design to have many flaws inhibiting its full potential. The most prominent flaw that lasted throughout the war was the weak final drive due to using a double spur system that made it more prone to failure from the Panther's torque requirements, which is averaged at around 150 km before failing. The curved gun mantlet design had an unfortunate tendency to ricochet deflected rounds into the roof, it was, however, not fixed until a new gun mantlet design with a flat "chin" shape was introduced on the [[Panther G|Panther G]]. The ''Schachtellaufwerk'' suspension system, like the [[Tiger H1|Tiger]], suffered from over-engineering and complicating maintenance of the tank. Smaller problems in the tank included not having a dedicated periscope for the gunner, lack of ventilation to the engine due to waterproofing, maintenance-heavy, fuel-hungry, and deteriorating armour quality as metal alloys in Germany began to run out.  
  
* MASB 46: ordered by the Royal Netherlands Navy as an MTB. With the capitulation of the Netherlands in May 1940 before her completion, she was requisitioned by the Royal Navy in July 1940 and completed as a MASB on 13th July 1941. MASB 46 was powered by three Rolls Royce petrol engines driving three shafts and could achieve 42.5 knots.
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Despite its heavier weight and slightly complex design, the cost of each Panther tank was not very high in relative to tanks with a price at 117,100 Reichmarks, compared to the 103,462 RM of Panzer IVs and 250,800 RM of the Tiger I. This made the tank rather economic for its fighting purposes despite being over-engineered.
  
* MASBs 50-67: ordered by the French Navy as MTBs. With the capitulation of France in June 1940 before the completion of most of the boats, they were requisitioned by the Royal Navy in July 1940 and completed as a MASB throughout 1940 and 1941. MASBs 50-67 were powered by three Isotta-Fraschini engines driving three shafts and could achieve 40 knots.
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===Combat usage===
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The Panther was first issued to the Eastern Front, arming the 51st and 52nd Tank Battalions. Their usage presented mechanical problems of the Panther, forcing many of the early Panthers to be returned for rebuilding. Despite these issues, the Panther was deemed critical in the Battle of Kursk in ''Operation Citadel'', Hitler delayed the operation so more Panthers can reach the front. 200 Panthers were ready in June 1943, but its combat debut was disappointing. The Panthers, which arrived last minute before the operation started, meant that the crew serving the tanks had little time to train with the new tanks. Two tanks were lost to motor fires right after disembarking from the trains at the front lines. 184 were operational at the start of the operation on July 5, this dropped to 40 within two days. According to Heinz Guderian, five days into the offensive, only 10 operation Panthers were available with 25 completely lost, 100 in need of repairs, and 60 per cent of those mechanical breakdowns were easily repaired. Those that did work during the campaign were able to cause heavy casualties on the Soviet tank forces, but the Panther's lethality was mitigated by its low number available. When the operation turned and the Soviet counteroffensive pushed the Germans away from Kursk, the Panther loss rose to 156 on August 11, with many more lost as the Soviet kept gaining ground. Perhaps the Panther's biggest role in Operation Citadel was delaying the start of the operation by two months to allow the Soviet defences to be bolstered beyond the German's expectations, causing the failure of the offensive.  
  
Around 1941, to counter the more heavily armed German E-Boats, the Royal Navy converted most of their MASBs, including all of the BPB 70-foot MASBs, into motor gun boats (MGBs). During this time, the BPB 70-foot boats were redesignated MGBs 6-21, 46, and 50-67 and were refitted with a standardized armament consisting of 2-pdr aft gun and two twin .50 calibre machine gun mounts on either side of the bridge.
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After the failure at Kursk, improvements on the Panther helped its reliability rate. By March 1944, Guderian reported that most of the Panther's flaws were ironed out, but the final drive and other mechanical issues were still a major issue to front-line units. The Panthers served the rest of the war as quick-reaction forces to fight off Allied offensives on both fronts. On the Eastern Front, some 700 Panthers were committed to the battle at all times, though the number of operational vehicles varies depending on the situation. The Panthers were also sent to suppress the Warsaw Uprising in August 1944. Two were captured by the Polish forces, who used them against the German forces. The captured Panthers were used until they became immobilized and were destroyed to prevent recapture by the Germans.
  
MASB-61 was one of the ex-French BPB 70-foot boats. She was requisitioned by the Royal Navy in July 1940 and completed on 12th April 1941. In January 1940, she was refitted as a motor gun boat and redesignated as MGB-61. MGB-61 was commanded by the following:
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On the Western Front, the Panthers began being present in large numbers after the Invasion of Normandy. 156 Panthers were initially present between two Panzer regiments, but this increased by seven regiments after the Allied invasion, boosting the strength to 432 tanks. The high number of Panther situated in France, mostly around Caen, and their performance against the Allied armour caused many Allied tankers to fear it as much as the Tiger tanks. However, the Panther's reliability problem was still evident as many Panthers were left abandoned by the crew when they broke down. The mechanical breakdown, partly from the flaws in the machine, can also be attributed to the poor crew training given, which showed by crew overburdening the transmission or lacking regular maintenance on the tank. The Allied assessment of the Panther was that its mobility on soft grounds was superior due to its wider tracks giving more flotation over the ground, and armour and firepower value was superior to anything they had, though it was inferior in the bocage terrain of France due to the constrained nature of the environment. The Panther participated in the famed Battle of Arracourt, where a total of 262 German tanks were committed to battle. The battle, against the mostly [[M4|M4 Sherman]], equipped 4th Armored Division, routed the Germans after they suffered heavy casualties, while the Allies only losing 32 armoured fighting vehicles, a testament on how crew training and tactical advantage have a big impact on tank warfare. The highest concentration of Panthers on the Western Front was 471 Panthers (336 operational) in the Ardennes Offensive (Battle of the Bulge), where it showed its prowess in open terrain due to its superior gun. The Panthers also took place in Operation Grief, being disguised as [[M10 GMC|M10 tank destroyers]] to trick American soldiers. All of these mocked up Panthers were destroyed in battle or scrapped after it. After the Ardennes Offensive, eight Panzer division with 271 Panthers were transferred to the Eastern Front to beat back the Soviet offensive. Only five Panther battalions, 96 Panthers for each battalion, remained on the Western Front to fight the Allies.
  
* Lt. P.N. Howes, RN: December 1940 to August 1941
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After the war, Panther still saw a use for some time in various countries. Bulgaria and Romania received Panthers from the Soviets as aid, which they used until the 1950s. France was the most notable user of the Panther tanks after World War II due to the large quantities of operable vehicles left behind by the Germans during the Normandy invasion. The French raised a regiment of 50 Panthers from 1944 to 1947, when they were replaced by the new ARL 44 tanks. The Panther also influenced the French AMX 50 tank design, and its gun was derived onto the AMX 13 light tank. In 1947, an evaluation was written by the French War Ministry on the Panthers which even made their own assessment of the Panther that pointed out most of the flaws of the Panthers, especially the mechanical failure and the deficiency of the armour later in the war due to alloy shortages.
  
* Lt. I.R. Griffiths, RN: August 1941 to December 1941
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=== In-game description ===
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"This combat vehicle was developed by the company MAN in 1941 and 1942 and was intended to become the Wehrmacht's primary tank. According to German classification, the Panther was considered a medium tank.
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After the outbreak of war with the Soviet Union, German troops encountered the new Soviet T-34 and KV tanks, which were superior to all of the Wehrmacht's available models.
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After examining the strengths and weaknesses of the Soviet tanks, German engineers added sloping armor and a new chassis with large rollers and wide treads to the project.
  
* T/Lt. D.P. James, RNVR: December 1941 to July 1942
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In the spring of 1942, MAN's prototype was approved and entered military service. This combat vehicle embodied the spirit of German tank construction: a front-mounted transmission compartment, rear engine compartment, and an individual, staggered torsion suspension designed by the engineer G. Kniepkamp. The tank's main armament was a 75 mm 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 tank gun produced by the company Rheinmetall-Borsig, with a long 70-caliber barrel.
  
* T/Lt. J. Collins, RNVR: July 1942 to August 1943
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The main advantage of this weapon was its high muzzle velocity, which gave it high accuracy and good penetration power. Its ability to knock tanks out was better than that of the majority of Soviet, American, and British tank guns. In this way, it even surpassed the famous 8,8 cm KwK 36 installed on the Tiger I.
  
MGB-61 served with the 6th MGB Flotilla with HMS Beehive at Felixstowe from 1941 to 1943. She was scrapped in February 1945.
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Full-scale production of the tank began in January 1943. By September 1943, the companies Daimler-Benz AG, Henschel, and MAN had produced 850 Pz.Kpfw. V Ausf. D tanks.  
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The vehicle's combat debut was the Battle of Kursk, where the variant exhibited low technical reliability. For this reason, the tank's losses were very high. Hasty development and adoption of tanks featuring a new design contributed to numerous minor flaws."
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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* [http://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?q=%23panther_d '''Skins''' and '''camouflages''' for the Panther D from live.warthunder.com.]
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* {{Specs-Link|uk_fairmile_a_ml100}}
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/post/675135/en/ RideR2's Realistic gunsight (TZF4a, TZF 5a/b/d/e/f/f2, TZF 9b/b1/c/d, TZF 12/a) for Pzkpfw II, Pzkpfw III, Pzkpfw IV, Pzkpfw V, Pzkpfw VI]
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* [http://cfv.org.uk/research/boat/database Coastal Forces Veterans - Boat Database]
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== See also ==
* [https://www.unithistories.com/units_british/RN_CoastalForces.html#MGB%20Boats unithistories.com - Royal Navy Coastal Forces 1940-1945]
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* [http://www.naval-history.net/WW2BritishLosses3Coastal.htm naval-history.net - British vessels lost at sea in World War 2 - MGB, MTB, SGB, ML, etc] - originally published in British Vessels Lost at Sea, 1935-45, His Majesty's Stationary Office, 1947
 
* [http://www.navypedia.org/ships/uk/brit_c_f_mgb6.htm NAVYPEDIA - MGB6 motor gun boats (35, 1939 - 1941)]
 
* [https://uboat.net/allies/warships/class.html?ID=671&navy=HMS uboat.net - BPB 70 feet-type (ex: French) class]
 
* [https://d-dayrevisited.co.uk/projects/masb-27-restoration/ D-Day Revisited - MASB 27 Restoration]
 
* [https://www.yalumba.co.uk/Framesets/British%20Power%20Boat%20Co%20-%20Page%204,%20MGBs.html yalumba.co.uk - British Power Boat Co Page 4]
 
* [http://www.coastal-forces.org.uk/boats.html Coastal Forces Heritage Trust - Boats]
 
  
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This page is about the German medium tank Panther D. For other uses, see Panther (Disambiguation). For other vehicles of the family, see Panther tank (Family).

Description

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The Pz.Kpfw. V Ausf. D (Panther D) is a rank III German medium tank with a battle rating of 5.7 (AB) and 5.3 (RB/SB). It was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41. Beginning a new generation of German tanks, the Panther medium tank was one of the most iconic tanks of World War II with its high power 75 mm gun and heavy front sloping armour.

The Panther is not like the Panzer IV you have become accustomed to in the line-up. The Panther D was historically made to fight in a long distance with its long 75 mm KwK 42 gun. Close distance is not the greatest ally for the Panther, with its weak side armour and gun mantlet, it can be easily penetrated by most other tanks at its rank if it can get these points. Thus, Panther should be played with a self-established "safe boundary" around the tank to stay safe from flankers. Despite that, as a front brawler, it excels due to the strong front armour and speed.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Cupola)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides (Slope angle) Rear (Slope angle) Roof
Hull 80 mm (55°) Front glacis
60 mm (56°) Lower glacis
40 mm (40°) Top
40 + 5 mm Lower
40 mm (29-31°) 16 mm
Turret 100 mm (11-12°) Turret front
60-100 (7-80°) + 10 mm Gun mantlet
45 mm (0-25°) 45 mm (20-30°) 16 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 80 mm 16 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick. The interleaved suspension wheels means that there are places where it will be a cumulative 20 + 20 mm extra armour.
  • Belly armour is 16 mm thick.
  • A 30 mm RHA plate separates the engine compartment from the crew compartment.
  • Tracks and lower side of the hull are covered by 5 mm thick armour plate, protecting them from HEAT and HE shells.
  • Rear parts of the upper side hull armour have tracks attached to it, adding additional 20 mm of armour.
  • The gun mantlet ring around the gun barrel is 300 mm thick.
  • Add-on armour adds tracks around the turret side and rear.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock AoA Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 62 5 44.8 0.45 1007 1,240 22.45 27.37
Realistic 55 5 575 650 12.82 14.35

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: KwK 42 (75 mm)
75 mm KwK 42
Capacity Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
Stabilizer
79 -8°/+20° ±180° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 5.71 7.91 9.60 10.62 11.29
Realistic 3.57 4.20 5.10 5.64 6.00
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
9.62 8.51 7.84 7.40
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration in mm @ 0° Angle of Attack
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
PzGr 39/42 APCBC 191 188 173 156 140 126
Sprgr. 42 HE 11 11 11 11 11 11
Shell details
Ammunition Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
PzGr 39/42 935 6.8 1.2 25 28.9 +4° 48° 63° 71°
Sprgr. 42 700 5.74 0.1 0.5 725 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the Panther D.
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
7th
rack empty
8th
rack empty
9th
rack empty
10th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
79 77 (+2) 71 (+8) 62 (+17) 53 (+24) 44 (+33) 35 (+42) 31 (+46) 16 (+61) (+73) (+78) Yes

Turret and large sides empty: 31 (+48)

Machine guns

Main article: MG 34 (7.92 mm)
7.92 mm MG 34
Coaxial mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
2,700 (150) 900 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

The Panther has a much stronger front glacis armour than its heavy tank companion Tiger I, with ~140 mm effective thickness with sloping compared to the Tiger's 100 mm armour. However, only the frontal glacis is nigh impenetrable, the side armour and turret is very vulnerable and care must be taken to keep this safe.

One method is to exploit the Panther's long gun range with distance. Fight from a long distance from 800 m to 2,000 m away. At this range, the enemy's gun shells will lose most of their penetrative qualities compared to the Panther's gun and will (hopefully) not be able to penetrate the Panther's weak point on the turret, plus you have the benefit on their lower aim accuracy due to distance. Of course, this scenario is very unlikely given the more close-oriented maps and games in War Thunder, so let's get to the alternative tactic...

In a more close-range tactic, stay with your allies. Allies will help you by covering your weak points on your sides. If you advance too far from your allies, the likelihood of your tank ending in a fiery ammunition explosion increases exponentially. Even in a close-range battle, try to maintain distance between you and the enemy tank to prevent them from easily flanking you and keep a range advantage to keep your weak points as small as possible. The slow turret traverse will also be a lower drawback at a longer range as you will not need to turn your turret as much to aim at different targets. Stay near the rear of the line while more mobile and aggressive allies charge forward and attract the enemy's attention so you can get the jump on them.

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Horizontal Drive
II Suspension Brake System FPE Adjustment of Fire
III Filters Crew Replenishment Elevation Mechanism Smoke grenade
IV Transmission Engine Add-on Armor Artillery Support

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Excellent cannon has a range of ammo for any type of enemy: great stock AP for common targets (eg. T-34-85M4 Sherman or even the M4A3E2), piercing APCR for early cold war tanks (eg. M26T-44, early Centurions) and HE for light vehicles. Great accuracy and velocity allows easy long-range sniping. Plenty of ammo capacity allows flexible ammo setups.
  • Heavily armored frontal hull is immune to most guns at 5.7 like the 85mm D5T and 76mm M1.
  • Fast top speed, good hull traverse. Can get to positions in time.
  • Adequate gun depression of -8° adapts most terrains well.
  • Reasonably cheap repair cost
  • Has a wide range of good-looking camouflage to unlock. Suitable for almost every terrain / map.

Cons:

  • Gun mantlet is only 100mm, a huge and well-known weakspot to shoot at.
  • Very poor turret traverse making it hard to respond to flankers or to get the gun on target. For close-quarter combat, great situational awareness and fast reaction is required which isn't beginner friendly.
  • Side ammo racks are prone to detonation when hit.
  • Terrible reverse speed of only -4 km/h, can get the player killed.
  • Weak side armor gets penetrated easily by Russian APHEBC (eg. BR-365A, BR-471). Cannot angle too much.
  • Lower glacis often catches fire or brakes transmission when penetrated, leaving the tank immobile and vulnerable.
  • High profile for a medium tank makes it harder to hide.
  • Roof armour of 16 mm is vulnerable to M2 Brownings which are widely seen on American planes.
  • Although heavily armored, it can still get frontally penetrated and one-shot easily by a rather common tank: IS-2.

History

Development

The Panther development started as far back as 1938 as a replacement to the Panzer IIIs and Panzer IVs. The program was called VK 20 and it called for a 20 ton tracked vehicle design by Krupp, Daimler-Benz, and MAN. Krupp dropped out when the requirements changed to 30 tones in 1941 when the German encounters the Soviet T-34 and KV-1 tanks where the Panzer III and Panzer IV's performance have little effect due to its superior armour, mobility, and armament. The VK 20 was abandoned for the VK 30.02 in April 1942. Daimler-Benz design for this project looks similar to the T-34 with the turret far forward in the hull, plus the use of a diesel engine and external leaf spring suspension. MAN's design had a twin torsion bar, the interleaved suspension system (like the Tiger I) with the turret situated in the middle of the hull, plus had a petrol Maybach engine. Hitler was reported to believe that the DB design was superior to the MAN design, and in a review between January to March 1942, Fritz Todt and Albert Speer also recommended the DB design. Then MAN revised their design, and a special commission by Hitler decided on the MAN design in May 1942, to which Hitler approved after reviewing it. One of the reasons the MAN was approved was that its turret was already in production while the DB used a completely new design. However, despite being built for a 30-ton design, Hitler decided to increase the armour on the MAN design and the weight went from 30 tons to 45 tons.

The MAN design was made into a prototype in September 1942, when it was officially accepted after testing and named the Panzerkampfwagen V Panther. Where it remained so until 1944, where Hitler removed the V in the designation for the name Panther. Production started in December 1942, though the early models suffered from reliability issues. The production plants expanded from MAN to Daimler-Benz, MNH, and Henschel for increased output. Despite that, production was often delayed due to Allied air bombing, which targeted the Maybach engine plant and DB, MAN, and MNH tank factories. Nevertheless, the total number of Panther tanks produced was 6,706, making the Panther the third most produced armoured fighting vehicle in Germany behind the Panzer IV and the StuG III.

Design

The MAN design for the Panther featured a heavily sloped armour design, with the front glacis plate being 80 mm thick (from the original 60 mm before the weight increase) and when sloped at 55 degrees, it was 140 mm effective in thickness. This made the Panther one of the best-armoured vehicle in World War II. The side armour of the Panther was way thinner at 40 mm that could be pierced very easily. Additional side armour in the form of Schürzen could be placed on the sides hanging to cover the suspension and hull side from being penetrated by Soviet anti-tank rifle fire. The Panther used the same engine as the Tiger I, the Mayback HL 210 P30 engine, and had a similar suspension system, the Schachtellaufwerk interleaved wheel system, which complicated maintenance issues. The tank used the formidable 7.5 cm Kwk 42 cannon, which could destroy most of the allied tanks in service, though only possess a mediocre HE shell.

The Ausf. D variant was the first variant designed for the Panther, easily distinguishable by its drum-shaped commander cupola. The Ausf. D can also be distinguished by a unique machine gun port with a shape of a vertical "letterbox" flap from where the machine gun was fired (this was replaced by a standard ball mount in later variants). The Ausf. D also had the initial turret curved gun mantlet that was introduced to the Panther, though there were faults with the design as explained below. 842 Panther Ausf. D was produced from January to September 1943.

The Panther's rushed development and commitment into battle caused the design to have many flaws inhibiting its full potential. The most prominent flaw that lasted throughout the war was the weak final drive due to using a double spur system that made it more prone to failure from the Panther's torque requirements, which is averaged at around 150 km before failing. The curved gun mantlet design had an unfortunate tendency to ricochet deflected rounds into the roof, it was, however, not fixed until a new gun mantlet design with a flat "chin" shape was introduced on the Panther G. The Schachtellaufwerk suspension system, like the Tiger, suffered from over-engineering and complicating maintenance of the tank. Smaller problems in the tank included not having a dedicated periscope for the gunner, lack of ventilation to the engine due to waterproofing, maintenance-heavy, fuel-hungry, and deteriorating armour quality as metal alloys in Germany began to run out.

Despite its heavier weight and slightly complex design, the cost of each Panther tank was not very high in relative to tanks with a price at 117,100 Reichmarks, compared to the 103,462 RM of Panzer IVs and 250,800 RM of the Tiger I. This made the tank rather economic for its fighting purposes despite being over-engineered.

Combat usage

The Panther was first issued to the Eastern Front, arming the 51st and 52nd Tank Battalions. Their usage presented mechanical problems of the Panther, forcing many of the early Panthers to be returned for rebuilding. Despite these issues, the Panther was deemed critical in the Battle of Kursk in Operation Citadel, Hitler delayed the operation so more Panthers can reach the front. 200 Panthers were ready in June 1943, but its combat debut was disappointing. The Panthers, which arrived last minute before the operation started, meant that the crew serving the tanks had little time to train with the new tanks. Two tanks were lost to motor fires right after disembarking from the trains at the front lines. 184 were operational at the start of the operation on July 5, this dropped to 40 within two days. According to Heinz Guderian, five days into the offensive, only 10 operation Panthers were available with 25 completely lost, 100 in need of repairs, and 60 per cent of those mechanical breakdowns were easily repaired. Those that did work during the campaign were able to cause heavy casualties on the Soviet tank forces, but the Panther's lethality was mitigated by its low number available. When the operation turned and the Soviet counteroffensive pushed the Germans away from Kursk, the Panther loss rose to 156 on August 11, with many more lost as the Soviet kept gaining ground. Perhaps the Panther's biggest role in Operation Citadel was delaying the start of the operation by two months to allow the Soviet defences to be bolstered beyond the German's expectations, causing the failure of the offensive.

After the failure at Kursk, improvements on the Panther helped its reliability rate. By March 1944, Guderian reported that most of the Panther's flaws were ironed out, but the final drive and other mechanical issues were still a major issue to front-line units. The Panthers served the rest of the war as quick-reaction forces to fight off Allied offensives on both fronts. On the Eastern Front, some 700 Panthers were committed to the battle at all times, though the number of operational vehicles varies depending on the situation. The Panthers were also sent to suppress the Warsaw Uprising in August 1944. Two were captured by the Polish forces, who used them against the German forces. The captured Panthers were used until they became immobilized and were destroyed to prevent recapture by the Germans.

On the Western Front, the Panthers began being present in large numbers after the Invasion of Normandy. 156 Panthers were initially present between two Panzer regiments, but this increased by seven regiments after the Allied invasion, boosting the strength to 432 tanks. The high number of Panther situated in France, mostly around Caen, and their performance against the Allied armour caused many Allied tankers to fear it as much as the Tiger tanks. However, the Panther's reliability problem was still evident as many Panthers were left abandoned by the crew when they broke down. The mechanical breakdown, partly from the flaws in the machine, can also be attributed to the poor crew training given, which showed by crew overburdening the transmission or lacking regular maintenance on the tank. The Allied assessment of the Panther was that its mobility on soft grounds was superior due to its wider tracks giving more flotation over the ground, and armour and firepower value was superior to anything they had, though it was inferior in the bocage terrain of France due to the constrained nature of the environment. The Panther participated in the famed Battle of Arracourt, where a total of 262 German tanks were committed to battle. The battle, against the mostly M4 Sherman, equipped 4th Armored Division, routed the Germans after they suffered heavy casualties, while the Allies only losing 32 armoured fighting vehicles, a testament on how crew training and tactical advantage have a big impact on tank warfare. The highest concentration of Panthers on the Western Front was 471 Panthers (336 operational) in the Ardennes Offensive (Battle of the Bulge), where it showed its prowess in open terrain due to its superior gun. The Panthers also took place in Operation Grief, being disguised as M10 tank destroyers to trick American soldiers. All of these mocked up Panthers were destroyed in battle or scrapped after it. After the Ardennes Offensive, eight Panzer division with 271 Panthers were transferred to the Eastern Front to beat back the Soviet offensive. Only five Panther battalions, 96 Panthers for each battalion, remained on the Western Front to fight the Allies.

After the war, Panther still saw a use for some time in various countries. Bulgaria and Romania received Panthers from the Soviets as aid, which they used until the 1950s. France was the most notable user of the Panther tanks after World War II due to the large quantities of operable vehicles left behind by the Germans during the Normandy invasion. The French raised a regiment of 50 Panthers from 1944 to 1947, when they were replaced by the new ARL 44 tanks. The Panther also influenced the French AMX 50 tank design, and its gun was derived onto the AMX 13 light tank. In 1947, an evaluation was written by the French War Ministry on the Panthers which even made their own assessment of the Panther that pointed out most of the flaws of the Panthers, especially the mechanical failure and the deficiency of the armour later in the war due to alloy shortages.

In-game description

"This combat vehicle was developed by the company MAN in 1941 and 1942 and was intended to become the Wehrmacht's primary tank. According to German classification, the Panther was considered a medium tank. After the outbreak of war with the Soviet Union, German troops encountered the new Soviet T-34 and KV tanks, which were superior to all of the Wehrmacht's available models. After examining the strengths and weaknesses of the Soviet tanks, German engineers added sloping armor and a new chassis with large rollers and wide treads to the project.

In the spring of 1942, MAN's prototype was approved and entered military service. This combat vehicle embodied the spirit of German tank construction: a front-mounted transmission compartment, rear engine compartment, and an individual, staggered torsion suspension designed by the engineer G. Kniepkamp. The tank's main armament was a 75 mm 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 tank gun produced by the company Rheinmetall-Borsig, with a long 70-caliber barrel.

The main advantage of this weapon was its high muzzle velocity, which gave it high accuracy and good penetration power. Its ability to knock tanks out was better than that of the majority of Soviet, American, and British tank guns. In this way, it even surpassed the famous 8,8 cm KwK 36 installed on the Tiger I.

Full-scale production of the tank began in January 1943. By September 1943, the companies Daimler-Benz AG, Henschel, and MAN had produced 850 Pz.Kpfw. V Ausf. D tanks. The vehicle's combat debut was the Battle of Kursk, where the variant exhibited low technical reliability. For this reason, the tank's losses were very high. Hasty development and adoption of tanks featuring a new design contributed to numerous minor flaws."

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Germany medium tanks
Pz.III  Pz.III B · Pz.III E · Pz.III F · Pz.III J · Pz.III J1 · Pz.III J1 TD · Pz.III L · Pz.III M · Pz.III N
Pz.IV  Pz.IV C · Pz.IV E · Pz.IV F1 · Pz.IV F2 · Pz.IV G · Pz.IV H · Pz.IV J · Pz.Bef.Wg.IV J
Pz.V  VK 3002 (M) · Panther A · Panther D · Panther F · Panther G · Ersatz M10 · Panther II
M48 upgrades  M48A2 G A2 · M48 Super
Leopard 1  Leopard I · Leopard A1A1 · Leopard A1A1 (L/44) · Leopard 1A5 · C2A1 · Turm III
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  Leopard 2A4 · Leopard 2 (PzBtl 123) · Leopard 2 PL · Leopard 2A5 · Leopard 2 PSO · Leopard 2A6 · Leopard 2A7V
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Other  Nb.Fz. · KPz-70
USA  mKPz M47 G · M48A2 C
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